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This was great, especially since it feels like there's not a lot of kenjutsu sparring videos to watch, rather there's more HEMA and kendo sparring videos.
Indeed, Kenjutsu in not popular anymore. Just like Japanese Jujutsu isn't either. They got replaced by Kendo and Judo respectively. It's a shame, even tho both styles hardly spar (that's also why it's hard to find videos on it) both of them have more stuff that their Budo versions (Jujutsu actually has unarmed and armed strikes, and also some takedowns that are not done in Judo like the Scissors takedown. Kenjutsu in general has more stances and strikes, also they practice more kinds of blocks/parries and they strike with the intend to go through armor, something that Kendo does not, in Kendo just a slightly strong flick of your sword counts as a point, if your opponent has armor, that kind of strike will not do a lot)
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Good points, but I don't think the "if your opponent has armor" really matters. None of the european swordmanship arts we usually practice in HEMA do anything to armor either. We have half-swording and murder strikes depicted in some material, but that's not representative of the rest of the systems, as they are mostly focused on unarmoured combat. A sword is weak against plate armor. The real problem with Kendo flicks is not that they aren't strong, because they actually are! Kendoka learn to generate a lot of force. The problem is that they will be a lot slower and a lot harder to execute with anything heavier than a shinai, specially from middle guards. And the problem with Kendo overall, regarding combat strategy, is the same as sport fencing. Its mostly focused on getting a valid point first, regardless of consequences. Does not matter if you get afterblown, as long as your ki-ken-tai is correct. The focus on defense is restricted to the moment before you can hit the first valid blow. Doesn't matter if you can execute your blow safely. HEMA and "Kenjutsu" in general perceives this differently, and with a lot more options to execute it, even though sometimes gets thrown out of the water in competitions.
@@AljosaPLampe we hardly train it for that reason, sometimes we drill it but it's just sometimes. in Japanese Jujutsu, they really want you to master it haha. It'a weird how it is banned on Judo for being dangerous, yet it is still used in other martial arts like Hapkido...
As a student of German Longsword, i saw a lot of really great exchanges from both fighters. They both have great distance measuring too! This was awesome to watch!
I trully enjoyed this one! A lot more than the kenjutsu vs kendo one. Combat philosophies are aligned this time around. You can frequently see retreating attacks, and I didn't see a single "suicide" lunge to get the ippon. Many timed strikes to the opponent's wrist, in the middle of an action. The weight of the weapon requires a different kind of movement aswell, compared to the shinai. Great work!
@@larrylawnchair5570 What is the original form of kenjutsu? There are some koryu kenjutsu in Germany. I am aware of HIR, HNIR, MJER, TSKSR, KSR, and TSYR.
It's amazing seeing you two trade what would be fatal blows so frequently. It really puts into perspective how intense sword fights of the past would have been and how great swordsmen like Miyamoto Musashi actually were, to have won so many duels and with a boken no less.
I don't mean to be an "actually guy" or anything, but from what a recall, he only used a bokken in one fight. It was carved from an oar and was made specifically to outrange the especially long katana of his opponent.
@@sikViduserMusashi talks about stabbing enemies in the face and cutting their hands and neck in Five Rings. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@sikViduser, also, I read that the great Musashi showed up extremely late to that duel, knowing that it would really piss off this specific opponent. *mind f*+k *
This looks incredible. I love the techniques showcase! My friend that doesn't understand kenjutsu always tells me that its so easy to "Tsuki/Stab" ppl and ask why ppl dont try it more. But I keep telling them stabbing is the most difficult and often times unrewarded. This video rly show's how hard it is to apply Tsuki into actual combat and for it to actually work.
I’m a Japanese who practice both Japanese koryu kenjutsu and Chinese martial arts. Your fights are very impressive! I can see you are trying to use some practical techniques. Not just power and speed, but technique. I’ll wait for your next videos.
Wow! That's basically the "curriculum" I wish I went for. I want to be good at: Blade Fighting: Kenjutsu, Kendo, Iaido, HEMA and Kali. Hand Fighting: Aikido, Wing Chun, Tai Chi and that one that starts with the letter B and is hard to spell. Can you advise me on following this path? Any types from someone who is more advanced?
This was Amazing!!!! I could watch 100’s more of these videos if they were just kenjutsu vs kenjutsu. Not enough people do this. Looking forward to more
Nice. It's always good to see Kendo practitioners using bokken, the heavier weapon slowing the movements down and letting a more varied art to manifest. I've got to applaud the grit of these two. Getting hit full pelt by a bokken is pretty much like getting hit by a club, and they are only wearing kendo level protection! A lot of bruises in the next few days for them I expect.
Minimum regulation weight for a mens shinai is 510g. Bokken typically weigh between 500g and 600g. I would not be surprised if these polyurethane bokken are lighter still.
@@Ianmar1 Really? I did kendo for a few years long ago, and I remember my bokken being noticeably heavier than shinai. And certainly both of them being much lighter than a katana.
@@ninjafruitchilled The shinai that you used may have had the center of mass closer to the tsuka to emphasize speed over strength (center control) giving the impression that it was light, whereas your bokken was necessarily more evenly distributed.
@@Ianmar1 Can't say much as just a spectator, but as far as I understand it from the physics perspective, having mass being distributed further up means more mass as the point of contact, which delivers more energy to the recipient. Same principle as a hammer, though to a lesser degree of course.
The level of lethality here is insane , I watch a lot of HEMA and you guys would definitely do very will in a competition , I would love to see katana fighting like this catch on more great job !!
Much closer to Tennen Rishin Ryu, very effective against people wearing armor. If I am remembering my terminology correctly, they entered Tsuka Zeriai then the one in the blue attempted a takedown guy in black attempted to reverse it, but wasn’t fast enough.
@LawyerSean These are both kendo guys (see 0:18). Blademan B had a 3rd dan in kendo and self studies tameshigiri, whereas Hogu Yeom had a 1st dan qnd otherwise no kenjutsu training; they have since each passed 4th dan and 2nd dan respectively. Edit: wrong timestamp
You can see why Katanas are dueling weapons, really enjoyable to watch. A beauty you won't see in actual warfare. A spear or halberd is too effective to be as much of a spectacle.
They were used a lot in warfare and in some cases a sword would have been the preferred weapon, Japanese swords were even imported across Asia for combat use. Not just for duels.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 you're thinking of Tachi which are longer heavier swords for use against cavalry. Katana is primarily a sidearm or dueling weapon. Spears and other polearms have always dominated the battlefield.
@@theimmitigableone8056 that's not really true,also Tachi being heavier and longer is a modern classification. katanas could be longer prior to the edo period Where laws were made regarding blade length.
EPIC!!!!!! So cool! More more more please! Love when you guys mix up weapons and fighting styles too, maybe do a weapon art vs bjj or wrestling or something
Oh! That's just incredible! Also, first minute before realizing hit sounds are put over video: "WHAT? they fight with real steel swords, with stabing allowed? OMG Crazy dudes..." And spinning strike at 5:50 - rare moment when it feels appliable, had to rawatch at slowest speed
Yo this was badass!!! I wish there was dojo near me. There might be 1. I gotta call and see what's up with katana training. Keep up the great work 💪🏼👍🏼
Very good I wish a color would be added to be able to identify who is who.. Also to the young lady if he pushes you down with his weight try and consider pushing one of his feet away with your foot or quickly stepping behind his nearest leg to get away or push him away with your upper body
You mean Kenjutsu, in the end Kendo only uses a few stances compared to the whole range of Kenjutsu. Maybe they do Kendo too but this here is kenjutsu. Kendo is more about hitting an opponent, Kenjutsu about executing moves to slice trough and well kill. They have some similarity's though
More if this !! Awesome i didnt Know about Kenjutsu just woaaaaw so fluidso beautiful and lethal! Your footwork is mesmerizing Please more Kenjutsu vs Kenjutsu ! 😍
Most entertaining one I've seen so far. Didn't see any specs on how much the sword weighs but it looks closer to the weight of an actual sword. I love that the one in blue even incorporates some level of grappling to control the opponents sword. I'm curious on how scoring is done in this system, it looks like on a glance that this has anywhere as a valid target but I'm not sure. Also wonder if there is any after hits taken into consideration, or if it is just based on who lands a hit first?
This is a really excellent display of skill, great job to both fencers. I really like seeing how the interactions worked with the steel blades compared to shinai. What kind of training swords did you use here?
@@weaponism ah, interesting, I usually find polycarbonate swords to be very slippery compared to steel ones. I'm very interested to see a dull training version of a katana so that I can train with kendoka/kenjutsu practitioners with a Feder. I think with a mesh mask it should work pretty well.
@@WinnipegKnightlyArts if they used dull steel blades in this match, their forearms would be filled with blunt force injuries by the end of the match due to the number of forearm cuts that happened.
Bokuto would be slightly closer to the weight of a katana than a shinai would, but still not close enough, and it depends on the density of the wood as well. I bet they’re only using lower quality “throwaway” bokuto here for combat, weight would probably be in the 500+g range. An actual katana is closer to 1kg thereabouts.
@S the "heavy feel" has more to do with where the point of balance lies. A 800g arming sword with a point of balance of 10cm from the guard will feel clunkier and heavier than a 900g sidesword with a point of balance of 8cm from the start of the ricasso - and it's usually a longer sword. (Both 1 handed swords)
That was well done, and a refreshing change from "tippy tap" of shinai sparring. Good control and skill by both fighters. I wonder if we will ever see blunt steel katanas used like western longsword sparring? (with correct protection of course.)
@@eagle162 Yes so I wanted to see videos of skilled Kenjutsu fighters (not a WMA guy swinging a katana) use them, but they would need different (untraditional) protection.
PLEASE PLEASE give us more like that. Kenjutsu in its original form is very rare to find. I want to learn more about that and adopt it in my HEMA fighting style. Espacaly the foodwork is very impressive. All those clean movements, i can't get enough of this, it looks so perfectly.
In my oppinion this is what japanese swordsmanship should be like! It's not like I can't understand the beauty of kendo but the variety of techniks we see in kenjutsu is just so beautiful. There is variation of technic, variation of targets,variation of guards and everything in between. Like HEMA but with japanese swords. If this was an actual thing I would love to try it out.