Kenshi: Toughness training tutorial (for those with Flesh) 

Thanks for the videos on Kenshi, they all are very helpful. After testing this method out, I found out some nuances that might be the reason why some folks are not getting it to work correctly (including myself). First of all my squad was not getting any experience when waking up automatically and then falling down again playing dead. If they were in a "playing dead" state and I manually told them to get up, then they got the huge chunk of toughness experience. So you have to manually make a unit move from "playing dead" state to get the chunk of experience, or basically a move order. 2nd is the confusing way Kenshi defines a squad. The squad you "aggro" is the squad that gives you exp. If you happen to have a bunch of other Dust Bandits in the area aggro you while you're fighting the original squad you chose - you won't get experience from them. They kinda count as a general faction assist in your battle if that makes any sense, and the toughness won't go up from these units. This is for those folks who find 2 Dust Bandits camps side by side and may be wondering why your exp is low or something seems off if you end up dead by the assisting squad and not the original squad you picked a fight with. The difficulty in terms of limb dismemberment will cause your Bandit Camp to dry out quicker since the crossbow folks will blast each other in the arms or legs and bleed them out. If you lower the limb dismemberment to "Rare", this will cause the bandits to live a little bit longer from accidental friendly fire bolt shots. Finally Kenshi is a giant buggy mess and that's what makes the game charming. If you find your experience isn't going up as you would like, just find another camp and try again. Some camps just bug out and this trick does not work at all. Other camps it works flawlessly on first attempt. Good luck everyone!

Nothing says tough like fainting repeatedly at the sight of starving bandits

good tutorial for those cursed with flesh

One method I found for training toughness later on is to have one person to to fight Beak Things. you need at least 1 other person capable of fighting multiple beak things to do this method. You need to have one person run in and fight them, get downed, and start getting eaten. The person getting eaten will try to get up, take damage, go down, and repeat. If you're lucky they will do this multiple times. I discovered this method by accident when trying to make my characters lose limbs for bionics and I ended up training Beep's toughness from low 20s all the way up to 70 in about an hour.

Step one: Find/build robobed. Step two: Put a robot in in, the stronger the better Step three: Put on assassin rags, a few backpacks of ore for 100%encumberance and pick up someone/something on your shoulder Step four: Start punching the robot in bed, training strenght, dexterity, toughness and martial arts at the same time.

I like crab nests to exploit toughness, they never leave, they pretty weak to instakill character. They live away from roads, so it's rare event that someone interrupt cheesing. Get blue/green quality set of heavy armor, some food and first aid kits. Rush into nest with "block" on, get beaten, try get up, repeat.

It's a weird point but from my experience camp fires don't seem to affect stealth like other lights and torches do. The sun icon is still dark as if you're in the shade when next to a campfire sneaking.

Great tutorial! It was a little tricky because the dust bandit camp I chose ended up having tons of hungry bandit patrols but it seems to be working fairly well.

Wow, that was extremely fast leveling. Thanks for the video.

Oooh nice I retract what I said in the skeleton toughness training vid I watched someone else do this but personally felt as though it wasn't explained properly or wasn't good enough since I always use the starving bandits in skinnerss roam but this is good I now feel as though I can start a toon find a dust bandit camp and have some fun :D

You can do similar in rebirth vs the holy nation guards. I got one of my Greenlanders up to 88 toughness very quickly. The interval between ko and getting back on your feet goes down significantly the tougher you are. Rebirth is also great for martial, dodge, lock pick, sneak, assassination training. Just make sure the guard stops to heal you which is why it is always good to have 2 characters there, as the other can pick up the one bleeding out and drop them near guards to heal.

Thanks for freshing up the memory on this one. Anyone who does any tutorial guides for Kenshi deserves a subscribe. I believe though that there is a method to somewhat "force" the play dead to happen. That way they will play dead instead of getting up even while their squad mates are around. Has something to do with using passive/block stances along with sneak. Or I seem to remember having read something along those lines somewhere. Any idea? Might be wrong though. I know that it's possible for them to heal themselves while also playing dead(in case someone wants to use this method on a solo run) Though that happens rather inconsistently with me.

thank you this is exactly what i was looking for! this game's a bitch but I can't stop playing it!

Holy shit this is so lit!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!

i subscribed for and more good content

I love this game so much that sometime I wonder if myself is an M... Already have 500 hrs on Stream, and before moved to Stream, I already play at least twice that amount of times.

Ah that's how i will start my monk martial artist my last one ended well... Poorly

Can't get my character to chain the playing dead state. Always just get up to fight

After many attempts I got this to work once for like 2 minutes but it was enough to go from 20 tough to 60. What I did to make it work? No clue I just kept trying over and over until my guy stopped getting up to fight and started knocking himself out.

i prefer the hungry bandit at skinners roam method, by the time im at 60 toughness my combat skills are at 40, this only trains toughness, this does however seem better if you have a good training prisoner at your base

The Genesis mod contains a xp balancing mod that makes standing up from playing dead not give much xp at all

great video , but for some reason my character isnt really keen on self preservation and gets up like usual . he must know what i wanna do with him or its a bug. maybe i am doing something wrong ?

I can't remember the name atm but the area where the cannibals, Holy Nation and free cities samurai fight each other, I like to follow a group of samurai around and get beat up by holy Nation and cannibals until I get bored. Unless I'm Greenland than I follow the holy Nation around. If you don't care about making either large faction mad, their high stats give good xp when they beat me.

After the video all I can say is Less Goo BrAndoooo

Hey do you know how to attack enemies like sheks and animals when placed in a bed

Does cornelius count as a beast or character , can he dive to hiveman? Or should do bandits , does he get, Elder ?

Hey! is it possible to train multiple people like this? or is it hard because they would all have to go down BEFORE the first one that fell recovers and gets up again? what if you put the whole group on passive? would they stay down until they are all knocked out? And does that affect the XP rate when you have more allies around you? :o Oh! and last question lol. do you do this to dust bandits instead of starving bandits because starving bandits would wonder off once you are all knocked out?

I did this method but one of my characters got enslaved by slavemongers :(

I was having the same problem as the others with this not working. The person I was trying to train would just keep getting up and wouldn't play dead. My fix was to create a new squad and place that person in it by themselves. Just had to kick that self preservation into high gear by making them think they were alone, lol. Also like to add, you need to make sure the character that is being trained has no healing or items on them, thus the reason for a second toon to heal.

Leveling the "legit" way took so much time lol Im on my first playthrough so im trying to avoid the cheese for now.

or you could get advanced training mods and sit on the campfire like i do

i cant do this anymore now TT, are they patch it??

Nicely explained but I cant get this to work all my character does it go into recovery coma then get up as normal after healed even though my healer is at squin while the camp im using is near the stack.

Can you do this with only 1 character without assistance? Like, can you heal yourself mid combat, and continue healing while uncoscious?

I can't get this to work for the life of me. It'll work the first time I get up and then every time after I earn no exp. =\

I either get dismemebered, or spend a decade in a coma and they forget about me when I wake up. Thanks for teaching me to not try and exploit this buggy mess.

uh hi, some people i know are wearing flesh- will this still work?

if you remove a robotic limb youll go unconcious for a couple seconds allowing you to do this without having to worry about the 9 second knock out being a bit unreliable. I do have mods enabled but as far as I know this is a base game thing. Might be useful for later in the game. edit: this might only work with legs, but I havent tested it much. if thats the case unfortunately it means you cant do this off the bat with rock bottom start though ig its not that hard to lose a leg to some skimmers. edit edit: after some beep brutality, I have learned that if you remove both of your arms and keep your legs on, you will get 6x toughness xp multiplier. its worth a shot if you've recently visited the peeler and want to grind your cyber beep to perfection. also, I have confirmed that you only go unconcious if you lose one of your legs, and you need to have both of your legs for it to work. arms dont seem to affect it at all.

I prefer to do this in skinner's roam I camp in a ruined mine and send people out 1 by 1 to get beatings and carry them back with a ninja

Newby here, do these camps respawn?

So I'm having the issue that even though my character is right in the middle of a dozen dust bandits, all with clear sight lines, he keeps getting up, causing him to get knocked out again rather than just flop for self presevation. It's happened on multiple of my characters, and my healer is far away as well. Any solutions? Edit: found a solution, remove all healing items and put him in a separate squad, but it still took multiple attempts to hit the sweet spot.

My character REFUSES to go unconscious for the 10 seconds and will get up and block until downed for 300+ seconds again, i cannot find a way to get them to just feign death again so i dont have to wait for another 300+ seconds

why is my character not knocking hinself out before he was found out??

is this fixed? doesnt work for me at all

Doesnt seem to work. Found a camp with dust bandits and they attack on sight

I guess that means possum have the biggest toughness

broken...

This isnt cheese tutorial, the real cheese is removing your prosthetic leg in front of a hostile group and put it back on again. This method gives you massive toughness EXP, and its easially repeatable becauae when you remove your equipped leg they loose agro, and you gain exp becauae you fainted momenterally during combat. The bigger the group the more exp you get. You can easially gain 90 tougness in half hour, assuming youhave a robotic leg and foumd a large enough group. Just dont do this trickmin front of cannibals and slavers for obvious reasons.

Does this work with skeletons? Ps: NVM i didn't watch the whole vid

I like this game, but this is my biggest complaint about the game. You cant really progress naturally I feel. I guess you could always keep a medic hanging out in a town, but even then, I end up dying because when you start, there are no battles that you can win.

Was this updated? My characters refuse to knock out themselves like they have 0 self preservation and always get up fully. It still works but dust bandits knocking you out takes 100-200 seconds to recover from so it takes longer