Getting mentioned by Kent Hovind is kind of like having your song lampooned by Weird Al Yankovic. It is a way of finding out that you are now a celebrity. Congratulations!
As a trans woman my experience with Christian love was reason enough to make me an atheist. I used to be an active member of a Christian denomination, I taught Sunday school,directed the Christmas pageant, and represented the congregation at the synod conference . When I came out as trans and decided to transition some in the congregation took it upon themselves to takeover teaching the Sunday school kids , took over my position as a Delagate to the synod , and some even refused to speak to me. I have come to believe that if that is Christian love and how their god wants them to behave then I no longer want any part of it!
I’m afraid that seeing people like Kent Hovind on the Internet has turned me away from religion. I’m not an atheist: I just stopped devoting any runtime to religion because I don’t want to end up being a loon like Hovind. COVID had forced a pause in church attendance anyway, so I just never went back. Because of Hovind and flat Earth people like him.
i'm so sorry that happened to you, my church is very lgbt friendly and I remember going to a night sermon about how we need to pray to stop violence against trans women so when I first heard about christians thinking trump was god's gift to earth it was a jarring contrast
I've always been atheist and I'm genderfluid but I often find myself still feeling compelled to defend religious people that were not acting hurtfully towards others. Granted this is probably because I empathise with them over the reason they are targeted without opening their mouths. That being that some people feel the need to take issue with members of certain minority religions choosing to wear particular headwear. I feel like they are being attacked for the same stupid reason people see fit to attack me for wearing the "wrong" clothes. So promptly the part of me that is like "Are they harming you in any way?", "Nope thought so, now shut it", comes out. I'll also defend them for honestly answering a provocative question designed to give the asker an excuse to be an ass. I'm less sympathetic to those that bring it upon themselves by trying to evangelise to random strangers however. If anything I'd be more likely to step in on the side of the person they are pushing at and ask them to demonstrate their claims. But that is just me I don't intentionally go out of my way to engage such people but I do think anyone openly evangelising ideas in public invites a public response and as such I feel obliged to accept that invitation against any expressing bigoted ideas. Those that live and let live honestly I'm good with, even if that means they choose not to interact with some people more than they have to, I at least respect them for recognising they have nothing nice to say and saying nothing. I just hate those that feel the need to project their hate onto others.
an anglican church near me had a covid christmas church service I watched and said that not only were people of other religions welcome, but ATHEISTS as well. Go to a mennonite church and many of them don't even TALK dogma. Although the response to saying "I'm coming out as trans" would likely be "so? Get back to work". But they also made a point of saying the service was held on unceded first nation land. I don't know what religion a 'synod' is, but there are LOTS of denominations not fundamentalist and don't care about gender issues at all. In fact its embarassing because many ISLAM mosques are not openly friendly and thats less than ONE generation away from fundamentalist countries.
I think you're being unfair to sociopaths. They don't have 'tactics' they just lack empathy. Kent's just dishonest. Which is independent of any psychopathy.
"Most homosexuals are atheists" Really? Almost like being told you will burn in hell because of the way God made you makes a person reexamine the idea of an all-loving God.
Not exactly I am not an atheist. I just don't think he is correct on the argument of homosexuality. I had a dream about God and there were two women holding hands in his house. I didn't exactly know what to ask him but he was a pretty funny guy and he actually complimented me for praying at home. Imagine like 5 different church's singing to him every hour on the hour and I would just stay home too and just read a book.
Evangelicals: "the gays are not welcome in the kingdom of heaven!" Also Evangelicals: "why won't the gays believe in our religion!? We don't get it???"
I once tried debating a flat earther, it was fun in the beginning, but it got so boring after a while because any kind evidence just got ignored... was really disappointing, can't recomend
"any kind evidence just got ignored" Yeah, I had a similar experience because I said that a YT flat earther had an interesting experiment. When I pointed out that I had similar evidence showing that the sun actually goes down, he said "f-ck off." I quickly saw how disingenuous he was, and it was very disappointing.
A couple years back when I was a gymnast I was biking to my gym and I saw a guy with a leather jacket that had literally every flat farther claim, like density being gravity, it was a good laugh.
20:40 Absolutely incredible. He goes from "You idiot, you believe in the majority of scientist's opinions?" to "Look at the majority of random American's opinions, it coincides with mine so I'm right" to "Look at this article stating you shouldn't put stock in majority opinion" in the blink of an eye. His viewers must have room temperature IQ!
Room temperature IQ in Kelvin is still too much. Try nearer to 0 Kelvin...electrons barely moving about their skull...surprised they dont stop breathing.
A wise person once said that arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how great your moves are the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and then strut around like it's won. Aren't you glad that you've gotten to experience that first hand?
With Hovind it's even worse, because he's not an idiot, he's a scam artist. He CHOOSES to play like a pigeon because HE knows he couldn't win the game if he did it properly.
This is *exactly* the concept I had in mind as well. Internet points won by you! And I guess Hovind would rather be a successful pigeon than a mediocre chess player.
I'm from the US and it is so annoying that people like Kent get so much exposure internationally. He is basically our village idiot, or perhaps more accurately our village snake oil salesman.
He's not on most people's radars, only really the minority who view athiest/theist RU-vid debates. Thankfully we hear a lot from intelligent Americans (at least in the UK media) - but I'm not sure any number could outweigh the insanity of the completely crazy faction of Americans we also hear from (Trump et al)
@@dasreicht not sure that is good , considering the 'orange head tots big hands!' years ...kenny as the 'mascot' of the u.s at least reflects how its government operates in meta terms on the world stage and how its internal politics tryess to avoid the trend of informed educated younger generations starting to tinker with the rigged systems far to good to be ignored :/
For the record, as someone who is religious, I don't believe that Emma Thorne is in any trouble with God. I'm much more worried about the "Christian" grifters whose values directly conflict with the actual values taught by the Bible.
Definitely. I'm loving all the comments i'm reading. I wish I could give them all a thumbs up, but I have games to play! So I'll stop it here and leave some words :)
Just wonder how long Matt Powell wants to play 2nd fiddle, he is as narcissitic as Hovind and two captains on the bridge of the MS. Egotism is a heading for desaster.
@@kamion53 Well Kent in going to prison isn’t he? I suppose Eric Hovind might be hurt that his old man chose Matt to replace him over Eric. It is bound to be a hell of a cat fight.
Oddly enough some thiests will admit that micro evolution is possible but deny macro evolution. It's just another form of the god of the gaps or special pleading.
Kent: "we believe that if you think you come from a rock...you're dumb" Also Kent: Believes the literal word of the Bible in which "the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life."
This man has been repeating this same line, the same nonsense for nearly 30 years! He has repeated the exact same lie over and over for 30 years. It's freaking nuts!
@@user-so1wr2oh1t panspermia is just a hypothesis that is untested. No scientist is “claiming” life came from panspermia. We haven’t found any meteorites with organisms.
Yea except the Bible is historically infallible, almost all the fathers of modern science are Christians and our entire time-line is wrapped around the life of our Lord and savior Christ Jesus. There's absolutely no debate among modern historians about the Bible's credibility. Atheism is the silliest religion ever made. Why would you militantly defend a position as ignorant as the universe and all life in it coming from absolutely nothing. Science has laws. Please learn them. Weird how modern science agrees more and more with the Bible as time goes by. At the time it was written, the "scholars" of the earth thought the planet was flat. I thank God for Copernicus and Galileo, a couple of Christians, for inching us closer to the truth of God's glorious creation.
Mad respect that you even take the time to break down these kinds of bad faith arguments. I just hope you’re taking good care of yourself in between videos! This nonsense is making me crazy, I can only imagine how you feel having to edit it all 😅 Huge fan of the channel, much love 💕
"We don't need to call these reprobates by their preferred pronouns, and we shouldn't be ashamed to say they deserve to be removed from life because Gawd thinks they're icky, but don't you dare use the "fuck" word around me, honey!"
One fun thing with Kent is, as you noted, how obvious his lies are. This shows just how much contempt Kent has for the critical thinking skills of his audience. The tragedy is that his opinion appears to be justified given how long he has been getting away with it.
Give the man some credit. Having a segment called "whack an atheist wednesday" is one of the most honest expressions of christianity's "love your enemy" and "hold the other cheek" mentality I've ever seen.
I have to say, Im amazed at Hovind's level of patience for his own self. The fact that he can continuously repeat the same strawman lies he's been corrected on hundreds of times shows an impressive level of density, and an impressive lack of boredom in his own spew.
It makes perfect sense. He has a niche that rewards him for what he says. The real consequence to him is quite minor and consists of people he doesn't care about (i.e. who don't give him money) calling him out. Which he can spin into fresh outrage to gather views from people who do believe him. It's all very tidy, provided you can stomach lying that much.
@@AtheistJr Indeed. Hovind is such a worshipper of Mammon (money) that he obstinatly refuses to pay taxes on his religious outfit. For someone who claims to wholeheartedly accept the inerrancy of Scripture, he certainly has a way of rejecting the parts which say: "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers", which passage goes on to say that 'this is why you pay taxes', and "Render unto Cæsar the things which are Cæsar's and unto God the things which are God's", the latter quotation credited to Christ, whom Hovind professes to serve. (Romans 13:1-7; Matthew 22:29) Even if one believes that there is such a thing as God, that in no way changes the fact that God has never printed money. Cæsar (meaning, of course, human governments) prints money. Consequently, money is one of "the things which are Cæsar's" to be 'rendered unto him', and that in the form of taxes. Even the United States Supreme Court, in an opinion written by Sandra Day O'Connor (herself regarded as a conservative) in a case involving Hovind's fellow televangelist Jimmy Swaggart during the late eighties, has said that religious outfits are not exempt from the payment of, at least, sales taxes. (Nevermind that the sales tax is one of the most regressive forms of taxation ever devised. Really, the High Court should have expanded the scope of its opinion from the sales taxes of individual states (specifically, in that case, California) to include taxation of any and all income accrued by religious outfits, on the local, state and Federal levels, thereby completely eliminating the tax-exempt status of religious outfits and clergymen, and, thus, nullifying the Johnson amendment for political statements, such as that swipe Hovind made in this video regarding President Biden.) That is simply one example of how Hovind is all about breaking the rules. Another example was mentioned by Emma in the second part of her previous video concerning the fact that Hovind, when suspended by RU-vid, moved the ensuing episode of his Wednesday program to Powell's channel in an attempt at supension-evasion.
At this point, given the density of that matter inside Hovind' skull masquerading as a brain, we can safely conclude that inside Hovind's head exists a gravitational singularity( which would explain why any answer to his inane questions don't seem to teach him anything).
I walked into a friend's home, clearly very frustrated. She asked why I was so bothered. I told her I had been in an argument with someone who said the Earth is 5000 years old... She responded, "That's just stupid! The Earth is 7000 years old!!!" My jaw hit the floor and I said, "WHAT???" "It's in the Bible". I asked "Where? I must have missed that bit when I read it multiple times." She went on to explain that she had never read it and she's not certain the person who told her that had either... And that dinosaurs didn't exist... I walked out not wanting to frustrate myself any further. My point, is that a large number of "Christians" have never done the reading but a solid chunk of non-believers have. These people are so difficult to have a conversation with. I envy that level of blind faith while at the same time pity that level of ignorance. Love your videos!
About 18 years ago I was in Pensacola, Florida visiting my in-laws. My sister-in-law was pregnant and said that she had heard that some dinosaur park was pretty good. They dropped me and my stepson off at this place while my wife and her sister went to a doctor appointment. So, we go in and look around, and some kid calls the few people into another room with, "OK everybody, the presentation is about to begin." At this point, I still didn't know what was going on. Then he started, "Every dinosaur book you read is full of misinformation. They all say 'millions and millions of years ago', but we know from the Bible that the Earth is just 6000 years old." I was thinking, "crap, what did Juli get me into!!!" I had no idea until that point of my life that some people don't accept the Earth is billions of years old. Anyway, it turns out we were at Kent Hovind's place in Pensacola before he went to prison. It was a really, really crappy day. My wife gets a kick out of it. She knew something was wrong when she and her sister pulled up and looked at our faces. She still laughs about it 18 years later.
@@jaydelgado1994 I still blame my sister in-law. I guess she had no idea either about what that place was about. It was a horrible day, but looking back several years later, it is kind of funny and it also probably played a part in me becoming an atheist.
@@jaydelgado1994 I think it was just a shock at the time to see such ignorant people there and I realized that a person had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to perpetuate this imaginary tale. There were people visiting that place who just ate up every bit of the creationist story. This was about 17 years ago so I was dropped off there without a cell phones, feeling stuck and surrounded by idiots. If I would have had any idea what that place was like before I went, I wouldn't have gone. I guess now, I would probably feel that I would need to debate the people there even though they are so deep into it and they can't be convinced.
Odds are you wont see this, but when Hovind calls you out and can't defend his position because of it's straw-man arguments and ad Hominids you know you stuck a nerve. Keep up your great content and calling people out for their lies and misdirection. I'm proud of you for being respectful and not just completely bashing this human dumpster fire.
Yeah, he can't argue with her when he knows he won't be able to get in the final word. That's also why he won't debate her, because when he's speaking with her face to face, he can't pause her and gloss over her points without his manipulation showing to the audience.
Omg this is the inception of react videos, Emma reacting to Kent&Powell reacting to Emma reacting to Kent&Powell reacting to Dan reacting to Matt Powell
Aron Ra told him that to his face on three (?) separate occasions, one of which was recorded on a debate on Ra's channel and Kent literally just ignored it and continued making the same claim. That same video even shows Aron Ra trying to get Kent to admit he's lying about the rock claim and Kent literally just brushes it off and continues talking. Kent KNOWS it's not true, but it works wonders on his gullible audience, so he keeps it
"Beware of the majority opinion, it's wrong all too often" Nice quote from Kent. I wonder if this applies to religious opinions. What's the majority religion worldwide, again?
To be fair to him, the majority of Christians disagree with what he's preaching, and I'm guessing (I don't care enough to check) that he thinks that the majority of people calling themselves Christians really aren't.
@@RikardPeterson : agreed, Kent Hovind would certainly be qualified as a nutjob by almost every christian where I live, and most of them are catholic, indeed not actually christian from fanatical evangelists' point of view :)
Emma I love your vids, I am an American and unfortunately your point of having to remind people from the US that the US is not the entirety of the world rings all too true and even we Americans who have a brain have to remind other Americans that we are not the world and that American views don’t translate to other countries and the reason there are so many countries that have issues with the US is because we try to push our views on them. I grew up in a Christian home under a Baptist pastor that believed like KH, and forced me to attend a Baptist college, I had been questioning god from the time I was in the 7th grade, and then the first year I was in the Bible College they had a week long conference with Kent and it was the single most important event in my deconversion process, after it I stepped up my questioning of doctrine and with a year and a half was asked to leave the college and church under the guise of a crisis of faith when the truth was not a crisis of faith but rather a total lack of it and being offered not one good reason to have faith. Keep putting them out there and I will watch everyone of them.
He says “nobody provides evidence” because he doesn’t consider any of the evidence actually evidence. Or he will say that the evidence is “just a simple variation” and “not evolution.”
When Kent decided to start doing the Whack an Atheist series I would consistently go to the episode and debate creationists in the comments, I did it enough and well enough that Kent decided to block me from posting things to his channel 😅
Hey Emma! I know I'm a couple months late but molecular biologist here, If you ever want a few more arguments for these types of debates (though i'm sure they wont listen): We HAVE seen evolution in a short time-frame, notably in bacteria an yeast! The article "Evolution in real time" in the Harvard Gazette does a good job of explaining some nice discoveries on that subject. Great video as always! :)
Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem than most Casual Watchers of any given channel realize. Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it, but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that and therefore limit themselves. After this more-general message, i wanna add: RU-vidr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute, while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning to "flood the Office with his Man". Both RU-vidrs added to each other without realizing. And very notrworthily: Telltale makes Arguments that not enough Atheists run for Office and we should seriously consider it, especially for small Positions of all Kinds.
Mad respect to Emma, I can't even watch this in one go without going insane over Matt and Kents dishonesty, makes you wonder if they are even aware that they're manipulating and lying or if they're this far off the deep end that they genuinely don't see a problem with their disrespectful, dishonest and childish behaviour? Either way they have an audience meaning there are people out there who don't realise it either, makes you disappointed in humanity tbh...
Powell is just as knowingly dishonest and power hungry, but may well have convinced himself that it's okay in service to his God. He appears subdued with Hovind, but Hovind best watch his back. Powell is NIFB, extremely dishonest and manipulative, and extremely hateful to women and all marginalized groups. Hovind's condescension is even more irritating than Powell's or Anderson's screaming hate tirades. But I am so very curious what Powell expects to get out of this sidekick role.
I'm sure Kent knows he is a liar, but that he arrogantly thinks his means justify his ends. I can't listen to his constant and shameless dishonesty, as I'd end up bald.
I have often wondered exactly that. Don't forget that Kent and all the "popular" apologists literally live in a bubble surrounded by a circle jerk of "yes men" delusionists. Exactly like a cult but on a larger scale.
Sorry that I keep commenting on these older videos, but I've only been watching your videos for about 2 weeks. We HAVE watched speciation events in both fruit flies and microorganisms in laboratory settings in experiments designed to observe exactly the kinds of evolution that Kent denies.
There is nothing quite as enlightening as an honest debate. Either it validates your point of view or you learn something. Either way you win. You put a lot of time and effort into a genuine and thoughtful rebuttal to their “points”. He cherry picked lines to take out of context. It clearly demonstrates each of your morals and objectives. Well done!
Kent cannot help himself from acting dishonestly. He is dishonest before he challenges people to debates. He is dishonest during the debate. He is dishonest after the debate about the debate. To even consider debating him shows that there is something he could be right about. Kent Hovind is so incorrect that, in the words of Wolfgang Pauli, he is "not even wrong."
@@ReccquiemBST Kent doesn't believe he's right, it actually makes no difference to him. He argues whatever he feels will cause the most amount of $ to flow into their coffers
Kent is a walking, somehow breathing, fallacy. His entire ideology is a fallacy. If you do not believe in God (A) you believe in Evolution (B), period. Someone needs to debate this punk and go with the impression you are a Neo-Manichaean. Watch him lose every non-existent argument he has instantly. Neos do not require a God for their belief and there exists documented occurences that support it. Doesn't matter if you believe in it, but the debate itself would emohasize his idiocy.
i've only recently discovered your channel(s) and am currently working through a huge backlog, gotta say i really enjoy your videos on all topics, i love your glorious collection of geekiness toys, your wonderful almost apologetic irony, and your humourous insights. and that pumpkin top is awesome. :)
OMG the irony of him quoting Mark Twain is so rich. Twain was fiercely opposed to religion, superstition, ignorance, hoaxes, and basically everything Hovind stands for. Among his quotes: "Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. ... The higher animals have no religion. And we are told that they are going to be left out in the Hereafter. I wonder why? It seems questionable taste." It's also ironic that he says "a majority of the population voted for Hitler," but then, "it was probably a fraudulent election like Biden." Which is it, Kent?? Did a majority of people vote for Hitler/Biden, or didn't they? Is he conceding Biden won the popular vote?
The best part is that even with massive amounts of violence, the Nazi party only won a plurality of the vote to become Chancellor of Germany. Of course, that should be a warning about how dangerous a large, motivated, and violent plurality can be.
Well, it kind of is but not how he talks about it. Like... we are constantly accumulating errors, so much so we actually have a system to combat such issues. sunburn is a brilliant example of this. many cells have a Hayflick limit also for this reason. So like, yes creationists what you're talking about is sort of a thing but it's not the dealbreaker you think it is. And this is on top of their inability to grasp that not all changes are deleterious.
@@bellarosethorne I pinned down a creationist once that was talking about that and forced them to give me their sources of those claims. They rattled off some and when I researched them I found that they really were genetic deterioration evidence, but ONLY in population groups under 100 individuals and it was flawed science from back in the late 50's early 60's which has since been revised.
@@AnotherViewer Yeah, the minimum viable population for a species is close to 5,000. Too small and you start entering the bottleneck zone, which gives off stuff like the Cheetah who is quite well known for its health issues.
On the domestication of dogs: I remember listening to a radio lab about a team of scientists attempting to domesticate foxes and the more they domesticated them the more they began to look dog-like. Pretty interesting listen.
Congrats on getting to Whack an atheist, that means you made it into the debunking community and he thinks your arguments are strong and valid enough to make people see through his lies so he has the need to ridicule you and misquote you. Wear it as a badge of honor, congrats!
The only time that Kent actually whacks an Atheist is when he does it with his inanimate SpongeBob figurine. He's just that delusional to think that doing so actually even matters.
@@hfbnffsdugai3754 oh no I didn't think that... Kent Hovind's deities are the gods of voodoo like Baron Samedi? Kent Hovind is not Christian, confirmed.
I am absolutely fascinated by both of these individuals. The level of arrogance, manipulation, and falsehoods they use to make their "arguments" is absolutely ridiculous. I keep running into content featuring them and everytime I just cannot believe they are real. They behave like cartoon villains.
Every time I hear Kent speak I feel like I need to look around and make sure someone else is hearing this. It’s so mind melting that I doubt it’s reality.
Godwin's law, also known as Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies, is a statement maintaining that if any online discussion continues long enough, someone will almost certainly compare someone else to Hitler.
Re: "I felt my toenails curl up the second he said "honey" When we look at narcissists like Kent, we know he is clumsily attempting to belittle using those tenuous demeaning terms, *bless his heart.*
The fact that Kent and others like him are able to keep a large enough audience that they're still in business goes to show that their audience DEFINITELY 100% ONLY GETS THEIR INFO from people they already agree with. Somebody hack one of his streams like they do in all them movies where that happens
Exactly. It’s clearly a combination of social media doing their echo-chamber-inducing algorithms and oh, so many folk simply sticking their heads in the holy sand. I get that early-years indoctrination is a bloomin’ powerful thing, but given genuine, credible and demonstrable information is access’s at the click of a couple of buttons, they’ve no excuse.
There's a reason why all the "successful" apologists go to and are in America. I wonder if there's a parallel thing happening in the middle east with Muslims but we just don't hear about it because of the language barrier.I can just imagine a small but tight group of atheists over there fighting for reason and rationality. The ones that haven't been executed of course... In the West technology has certainly given atheists a voice like never before in human history.
@@TheTruthKiwi There are plenty of Englisch Speaking different faiths on YT , just go Look and you will be amazed that Foreigners can actually be bothered to create Content on a Myriad of Topics in a Foreign to them, Language. Arguments that are based on the Language Barrier are Null and Void These days, there is even an autotranslate for Klingon so Do Not make claims you Do Not get any Info about a Subject matter because you are only capable of injesting Spoonfed Content. Go Use the search function and have a lovely Day. Be well
@@dirkdisselpuff7938 Do heed your own advice to broaden your own view that English isn't as universal as you think outside Western countries as education of English language outside them is often poor or rare. English content is consumed mostly by english-speaking people; if you want content directed to a different language speaking majority (ex. Spanish, Chinese, Hindi, Russian, Arab) you'll have to use their respective language to appeal to the audience of that language, not English. Don't take the widespread usage of English within western hemisphere for granted by assuming the entire world uses it just as sparingly.
@@NewNecro It is funny that you assume that i am a person you tagged me as. Taking my main argument out of context provided you with a non existing argument and attack instead of ask or forbid have a discourse. I pointed out that gaining knowledge of something you do not know is not is not hampered by a language barrier. There are more then enough havens of information that you can scavange in whatever language you what on a myriad of topics. I pointed out that the Argument of i do not understand the other persons language or can not read their script is a non existing argument since it is just about using the right tool, like a autoranslate function or translated script. English is not my first or even second language so instead of thinking of me as a dult that has the oddacity to demand that everything has to be spoonfeed to him i am happy to report that i have no problem with actually doing the work in finding the correct tool for myself to converse with my fellow human. Ask any immigrant and they will tell you that language is not the main or even second problem with a foreign society, it is their culture and that is in these days made up of multiple language speaking citizens and that concludes that language is not a barrier set in stone that can not be removed or circumevented it is a catalyst for evolution of a Society. The claim the Person i respoinded to was that no knowldge was available to learn about other religions. With the big ones that is most defiantly not the case, pick one language and you will find information about your faith of choice in that language online or a good boookstore.If you want more in depth information persaonal contact with a person of faith is required and then you have a single example fo the latter faiths living worshipper. Be well
You're a brilliant warrior. I know how weighty and frustrating it is to battle with people like Kent Hovind, and you're doing an amazing job of fending off his abusiveness. Well done! ~Fan from Seattle
This is great. Good on you Emma. Its interesting how he can't seem to tell the difference between scientific fact and political opinion. Because to him they are the same.
Don't know why, but I genuinely can't wait for the live reading of his dissertation! Been fallowing kent's story as best as I can without supporting it since the beginning of the ark encounter (without looking it up, I believe it was 2014). I was first introduced to creationism in a religious theory class in college. The whole thing would be hilarious if it wasn't attacking the pursuit of science, truth and critical thought. Not to mention the clear money traps throughout the museum and the ark. Thanks for the great videos, love your content!
You haven't been following very closely at all, I'm afraid. Ken ham is primarily responsible for the ark encounter, and to the best of my knowledge Kent isn't even involved with the project.
@@joelhenderson3723 Ken ham and Kent hovind are both young earth fundamentalist creationists with heavily overlapping beliefs. They both came into my radar at the same time because of the Ark encounter. I didn't spell out the distinction cause I don't care that much and my comment was already more than wordy enough. Thank you for your input.
His dissertation is a disappointing read, it is somewhat childlike and naive, and just the presentation style would be derided by academics if presented as an accredited PhD rather than his purchased PhD from the unaccredited diploma mill of Patriot University in Colorado Springs, Colorado. I only read a few pages, it was dire.
Me: I don't like drama. Me, ees title: LE GASP! DRAMA! Edit: anyone calling you "honey" in a debate or professional conversation is immediately not worth your time. I hate that sort of demeaning language.
I love debunking Kent Hovind, using Christianity. 1) Pointing out how he calls upon users to go to HIS content to learn about God - instead of, per the Bible (and the consistent teachings of Christ), going to God. (this is Blasphemy, according to the Word of God). 2) Kent Hovind being proud of representing physical violence against individuals who disagree with him. (Wrath... hmm... isn't that one of those 7 deadly... things?) 3) Kent Hovind continually calling for praise from his peanut gallery. (Those who look to the approval of men, have no approval from God). 4) A MULTITUDE of bastardizations of the Bible or the Word of God to support himself (literally the #1 worst thing you can do, according to Christianity). So... yeah, he's bunk on every level.
@@gowdsake7103 The Seven Deadly Sins are a Hellenic Pagan idea that Hellenic Roman church fathers grandfathered into the traditions of the Church of Rome, they're no more a part of the actual Bible than Dante's Divine Comedy or Neon Genesis Evangelion. What the actual Bible says is be angry and sin not (anger okay, but channel it positively, don't do evulz), and that's where Dr. Yoshi gets caught with his pants down.
Number 3 can actually go back to Number 2. It's Pride, one of those seven deadly things. And perhaps persecution complex. Number 4: Hovind and (Ken) Ham and their ilks have been called out by Biblical scholars (yes, those who seriously study the Bible) for misinterpreting the Bible. I watch this from the latest AronRa video.
"It's okay, the lord's not real, so I think I'll be fine." Also, it _Is_ gross that he called you "honey". Great work! I'm looking forward to your next video.
4:50 "oh kent hovind's struggling with technology he's fine he's old let it go" Man, good to know which demos the kids think it's okay to ridicule nowadays. "Kids?" Cripes, was that gross?
@@darkpatches For an (often) older man--especially outside of family and friends--to call an adult (or young) woman "honey" is already typically considered creepy, but to do it during any type of debate is diminutive and dismissive of her ability to be taken seriously as well; but based solely on her appearance. It's not ridicule to say an ad hominem went too far. Ridicule: the subjection of someone or something to contemptuous and dismissive language or behavior. (Source, Google)
@@Bjornication Hovind may be the personification of an intellectual creep and being married to him seems to be no cup of tea, but he's not calling anyone "honey" to be creepy. It's to be condescending; even if in this context it's because she's younger and female. A huge contingent of the population in the American South, male and female, still call each other, esp strangers, "honey," in a friendly and, often, unthinking way. Once I got over the surprise at a complete stranger calling me "honey" or "sweetie," I found it quite endearing. Hovind isn't from the South, but he's been there long enough to pick up the lingo. I think hearing "creepiness" from Hovind for saying "honey" is projection due to bias or cultural unfamiliarity (Or because he's old? Ooooh, old people are creepy!). He's clearly co-opted the cultural lingo for his own nefarious purposes: belittling this particular opponent and getting under her skin. Unfortunately, he succeeded. Thorne pointed out that this was Hovind's schtick. He even succeeded in getting under AronRa's skin. I think the definition of ridicule you bring up fits my criticism of Thorne more than Hovind. Maybe it's harder to see when you don't care about the marginalized demo.
@@darkpatches If you're giving ground that "Hovind may be the personification of an intellectual creep" (if I understand you correctly), that he doesn't have a good track record with women, and that he meant to be condescending: are you saying that a creepy seeming person with a history of (alleged) abuse of women, who said something to be condescending to someone they were debating, didn't say something creepy, diminutive, and dismissive, because they live in the South? I think you're trolling.
Marvelous response by Emma, I could really feel that internal rage that she vented so eloquently! I'd probably break something if someone did a so poor job of tackling your points. He's just pandering to his flock, only allowing his pet parrot Powell to speak each time Hovind tugged on his tail feathers... Emma got a real knack for this and I'm really impressed by her calm and collected ways!
Congratulations Emma, all the work you've done on your channel to build up a brand finally paid off. Now that you've featured on Whack an Atheist, you know you've made it haha...If you want to really enjoy Kent getting utterly ruined then watch AronRa discuss him....Kent gets points for believing his is winning but he really really isn't and looks more comical the more videos appear! *EDIT - I just seen AronRa has replied to you *Edit (2) - You're right. Debating him would not be good for you, you've admitted you're not a scientist and it would be really be a example of "never argue with an idiot, they'd only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
@@dragonmystik9120 Quite probably they would quote Matthew 27:52 as precedent, claiming that god must also have protected the inhabitants of Jerusalem (since we hear nothing more about this zombie resurrection). On second thoughts, probably not. I forgot they have already proved their lack of cranial capacity. I doubt such an answer would occur to what little remains of their zombie food. :)
When Professor Powell said "she's just a you tuber" i started to doubt Emma had ever been on you tube, despite the fact that i was watching her on you tube at the time. That's the power and influence a person with his credibility has
Powell is a professor?! I thought he was just a guy who got a certificate in homophobia who wants the government to round up all the gays so that they can be executed in the most humane way possible... Edit: Corrected a spelling error, but not the run on sentence because who cares about correcting them, right?
Hi Emma. I found your channel through your Sci-Man Dan Video. I like your informed opinions. I used to be a Latter Day Saint, and have found that the majority of religious hardliners are very intolerant of the scientific community in general. (I at least had a head start where I grew up with a family who had book club membership, and studied a book on the then understood evolution and life style of dinosaurs among other things as well as the Solar System, back when Jupiter had only 12 moons or so we thought at the time). md will poo poo the idea that dinosaurs even existed, despite the fossil record. A great many number of the people who believe the Earth is flat and that gravity doesn't exist, like to treat the Bible as the only truth in the world. However if you look at mythologies around the world, you realise that a lot of the stories were built to rationalise the things that happened in their part of the world and were truth to them at the time, until other religions stepped in and took over normally through conquering nations and then forcing their views on others. Christianity has a bad track record on this, with the Inquisition targeting people who refuse to think their way and wiping them out. Likewise forcing religion on the peoples of the world during the various colonisation efforts. People with that mindset will never accept change even when proven, and will always twist the narrative to their worldview. Me, I'm still getting used to the fact that the majority of dinosaurs had feathers. Proof that as scientific understanding increases that change is accepted. Very enjoyable video, as was you MLM Body Shop video. Keep up the good work and don't let the ignoramuses grind you down.
There is NOTHING that makes me want to hit an old man more than them calling me any variation of 'sweetie' or ' honey'. It speaks volumes about their character, depending on how they use it. Kent is RANCID.
Another point just struck me: it’s a scientific _consensus_ rather than just opinion. Many scientists have done the work, reviewed the papers and been convinced by the evidence of the truth of evolution.
Thank you for responding to this manipulative, snake oil salesman. This is Hovind's modus operandi as Professor Dave found out. He cherry picks a phrase or statement, makes some kind of flippant or ill founded remark and leaves it at that. The most frustrating thing is that he doesn't even seem to see how wrong he is. Hope the experience of being whacked hasn't upset you too much...
He'll challenge anyone with a decent number of subscribers to a "debate" then pull the same tired, repetitive arguments he has for going on 30 years now. It's a self-promotion game for him, and there is absolutely zero desire on his part to honestly discuss anything.
none of "his" arguments are his to begin with, he is just a trained parrot who learned a few tricks from his "masters" who never had any degrees in the field. He is the most unremarkable idiot to walk this earth. Look up "the weakness of Kent Hovind" by McKinnon Mitchell
yup, seeking attention from respected platforms, that's how the creationist museum (noah's ark) got enough funding, because some jackass who will renamed unnamed, debated Bill Nye and got national attention
Jason Moran Hi. I agree 100% re: kudos to Emma, but it's "Dr" or non-Dr Gish-Gallop surely? And "boy child prodigy"? Well, OK, Matt does have that clean cut, just of of school look but the only way I can apply "prodigy" to him is re: his ability to produce impressively vast amounts of BS. BTW Now that son Eric has gone his own way, do you think Matt is being groomed to succeed, in due time, to the post of Wielder of the Whacker? KH can't last for ever, thank Go.. oops! goodness.
Good on you for putting your thoughts out there! My education is in anthropology. Darwin/Wallace evolutionary processes are what give explanatory power to what we see in the fossil record (e.g., early hominids to H. sapiens sapiens). You hit the nail on the head when you said that people like Mr. Kent Hovind and Mr. Matt Powell do not understand the time scales involved. That's why Lamarck's theory of change never worked - he assumed that change happened within an individual's life, rather than through each generation over very large time scales. Wallace and Darwin were aware of recent geological discoveries that established these long time scales, and why their theory works so well. By contras, there is no model or evidence (the bible does not count) of young earth. They also do not understand that evolution is not a unilinear or progressive process. Evolution is as simple as whatever traits help a population survive ecological change persist and those that don't are left behind. Indeed, evolution can be cyclical. There is no component of evolution that says that organisms must become more complex or lead to a higher order. In fact, very simple animals like the Tardigrade are far better at surviving than humans, and will almost certainly outlast human beings. I've been frustrated by these people my whole life. Giving them more information will not change their minds. A common trait of theirs is deficient cognition and awareness, combined with personality and enculturation that makes them susceptible to this way of thinking. Embracing such a world view is a way for them to feel in control of their lives in an increasingly complex and scary world, provides comfort through solidarity, and the opportunity to feel smart and important by standing up to intelligent people and believing that they are special because they see the truth of it all. Unless these people want to make a change, the likely never will. Meanwhile we need to do better with education and methods/services to help susceptible people from falling into these cults. P.S. If you ever want to learn an amazing story, look up the story of Alfred Wallace and how he independently developed evolution by natural selection. He was a crazy guy.
Thank you Emma, I stumbled across your channel and since that I have been going over your content. Please continue to produce your content you are just amazing.
Mad respect for you Emma. Always acting in good faith and remaining consistently coherent and rational even in the face of those spewing purposeful deceit and utter nonsense.
Hey Emma, selective breeding is evolution by human selection so we can use that as an example for proof of evolution in a smaller time frame. In fact in an experiment they did trying to domesticate foxes to replicate how dogs came from wolves, after 5 generation (I think, can't remember) they found that there was a noticeable difference. For example the foxes became lighter in colour because melanin levels was related to testosterone and aggression. So to domesticate them they were bred for less aggression
IIRC there are some flaws with the experiment. Not like, invalidating flaws mind you, but I remember there was some concern that the initial breeding population was lacking in genetic diversity. So some of the traits that are assumed to be a result of domestication may actually be due to the small genetic pool. TBF this wasn't as well understood when they began the program so it's more of a case of science outpacing a generation project that will probably still provide some useful insight.
@@Bustermachine Oh okay but in that situation doesn't it make it a case for selective breeding. To make the traits we want more dominant. And for the genetic diversity for humans I think the initial number should be 100,000 so there aren't defects from inbreeding after many generations. I wonder how that number differs for different animals
I wouldnt call it Evolution, but fun fact, selective breeding was one of the examples that darwin used to explain to people that animals can Change over time. His Argument was: If we as humans can do it to suit Out purposes, then why shouldnt it Happen in nature? Im Reading the Origin of species atm, and it's super interesting. Parts of it are also frankly hilarious or uncomfortable (thats what you get for Reading a White englishmans science book from Victorian Times...), But it gives you a good insight into the state of science at the time
Emma. Yeah I have been battling with YEC and Christians in general for years now and can relate to your frustration. Unfortunately, there is no shortage of ignorant deluded folks spewing garbage and nonsense on RU-vid. Thankfully there are folks like you, Aron Ra, Matt Dillahunty, Seth Andrews, Sam Harris and etc. that will go toe to toe with these folks. So bravo!! You are very well spoken and really have knack for cutting through the BS. Cheers
Emma, even Professor Dave has debated him, and he got SOOO frustrated, every time he raised a genuine scientific argument, Hovind deflected, procrastinated, attempted to belittle Dave with condescending clap-trap, or said something along the lines of "I didn't prepare for that!" It's impossible to have a normal debate with him.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
There is a scandal coming to light about pervasive sexual abuse in the Southern Baptist Church. Suddenly when someone says, "I'm a Christian" they don't seem nearly so harmless as they would have us think.
A good evolutionary item: look up the history of horses and donkeys. The two split, but if they mate they produce a mule. That is their close enough to produce offspring, but that offspring is infertile because of the different number of chromosomes in the two parent species. But this is an example of one animal giving birth to a different animal due to selection. It's usually artificial selection, being that humans do it, but it could happen in the wild as well. A mule is not a horse and a mule is not a donkey. Now he would probably complain about the fact that it's sterile, but that's part of natural selection.
I feel like if Kent showed a clip from this video to debunk it, he’d just show the clip of you saying you added vanilla to your coffee and claimed that was your evidence for evolution somehow…
Kent Hovind is a damn fool. He's had evolution explained time and time to him again and again but either his blind faith, his willful ignorance(or both) have always shut his brain(what little there is of it) off to any ideas that run counter to his personal beliefs. Just take it all in stride Emma, you got this!
That actually reveals themselves a lot. These people lie. If they would believe what they say, they would not need to lie, but they have to twist words to not be revealed as what they are in front of their audience.
Love your input re the conversation around all of this, Emma. You commented that your response went on longer than you expected, and that it was frustrating. Yep, that's his tactic and many others experience the same- Hovind lays on the BS so thick because debunking each lie takes up more time than the lie. The firehose of shit method. Keep up your good work!
