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Kerry James Marshall's Portrait of the Artist 

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In the video we made on Basquiat's Defacement, we briefly mentioned Kerry James Marshall and Ralph Ellison's 1952 Invisible Man. Both artists analyzed and made statements on black identity and the perception of blackness. Marshall's A Portrait of the Artist as a Shadow of His Former Self is a great study of black identity when paralleled with Ellison's novel. It's a powerful illustration of black invisibility.
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@carrie5980
@carrie5980 Год назад
I think missing a front tooth is also symbolic of losing part of your identity. I also think it's worth noting that, as a shadow of his former self, he has also become something uncanny and frightful. "The Man in the Hat" and "The Grinning Man" are two different bogeyman characters, and it seems like the artist might have included those features to show how black people are made into a bogeyman as part of the eraser of their identity.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
I think it's making fun of you
@nagolhayze9366
@nagolhayze9366 Год назад
Maybe the black man in the black painting simply didn’t have a dental plan ...
@groovysam340
@groovysam340 6 месяцев назад
i love this breakdown
@user-rh5rs4ke5c
@user-rh5rs4ke5c 2 года назад
How do I marry this video? I've been thinking a lot recently about how my blackness comes before my identity, sometimes not only to nonblack people but also, occasionally, to other black people. It makes me feel hopeless, and I'd never thought of using the word "invisible" to describe it, but it is perfect. I almost cried hearing the meaning behind this seemingly racist/scary painting. Kudos to Marshall and to you for making this video. Thank you.
@hassanderaoui3815
@hassanderaoui3815 Год назад
Same, bro. Same. Thinking of my own blackness and my identity as a whole it's a recent thing for me, and it makes me wonder if I even belong among the others who got that figured out earlier in their lives. This painting not only shows that we're not alone but at first glance, before listening to The Canvas' brilliant explanation, it resonated with me in a weird but welcoming sense, as if I didn't think of blackface or a racist portrayal. Something in this piece was calling me. I hope you find your truth as soon as possible. Greetings from Brazil!
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@hassanderaoui3815 dude it's a literal minstrel characture. Get help
@wepsar
@wepsar Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits Eye of the beholder. Art is not about the literal, once the artist releases their work it becomes a vessel of the experiencers imagination.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@wepsar ... yeah that's some made up Disney mumbo jumbo iconoclasm. Words have meaning, icons have meaning. Of course words and images are LITERALLY imaginary, in order to keep the lights on and food on the table, words have solid meaning. Put whatever flowery self serving euphemisms on this- it's a black dude doing white face under black face for the entertainment of a mostly white audience. Step back from your own smug satisfaction and see how weird it is to participate in the peculiar spectical. Remember when childish Gambino did "this is america" and it won a Grammy. You never hear that song anymore- cause it was pretty lame- But him dancing like a minstrel did become a meme. I agree that artists have creative license and should enjoy the freedom to be themselves. But just because an artist is black- doesn't mean they aren't reasonable for the messages they put out. I wonder how his ancestors would think about him making his name and feeding himself on the same old song and dance routine that "dehumanized" so many people. This dude is pissing on the art community's leg and telling us it's raining
@casey997
@casey997 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits judging by the other comment you made on this video you don't care about the artist's personal experience, of course black people aren't the only ones who feel alienated but don't just shit all over their experience
@sillycookie
@sillycookie Год назад
The portrait gave me chills when I first saw it in the thumbnail. It's like existing, yet not existing at the same time. People see you, but don't see YOU. They see a shadow, a projection of their own prejudices.
@xXcangjieXx
@xXcangjieXx 4 года назад
I’ve been reading many books lately to get a better understanding of society but despite following my friend’s recommendeations of reading Marx, Wittgenstein, Rand etc nothing quite does it for me like art. This is seriously one of the most underrated channels on youtube and it’s infinitely inspiring!
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 4 года назад
I'm so happy to read that! It's really an honour to be able to inspire! Thank you so much!
@nothingbutart7473
@nothingbutart7473 3 года назад
Why would you read Marx? You’d be better off staring at dogshit.
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 3 года назад
Ever read Marx? I know it can sometimes be difficult, but it's not a reason to call it dogshit
@nothingbutart7473
@nothingbutart7473 3 года назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory it’s plain rubbish, I guess it’s good for understanding or at least acknowledging the other side but it’s not great literature and the ideology he created and wrote about led to the deaths and murders of millions of people. What he wrote about doesn’t fit humanity, because it’s based on everyone being perfect and the same. We are far from perfect and definitely not the same, and we definitely don’t all think alike. And yes, I have read Marx, I’m actually an avid reader, his books to me at least aren’t difficult. To me, Marx doesn’t do any good, because it almost brainwashes readers, it gives them false hope. How do you feel about Marx?
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 3 года назад
I absolutely love Marx! What have you read of him? From your commentary, I'm quite surprised that you've read Marx (let alone understood his writings). I might have missed the part where he says his philosophy and ideas are based on the fact that everyone is perfect and the same. I might have missed that. From what I understand, he believes that people aren't perfect (they are corruptible and will use their privileges to their benefit, which is the reason we have to prevent them from getting any economic dominance). Also, I don't see where he says we should all think alike. The whole point of communalizing production is to give more free time for workers. Marx understood that people needed free time to develop in their own way, on their own time, because we're all different. So, just to reiterate, which works have you read exactly?
@sik.6721
@sik.6721 Год назад
I love how despite all of your great analysis, his paintings' meaning are so straight foreward. It says 'I'm more than just black' and that's all it needs.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
So what is he... The painting clearly shows its MERELY a black man. I think you're seeing something I'm not. Where is this "more" you speak of? I think you mean he's trying to say "I AM NOTHING BUT A BLACK MAN"
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
Really cause I read it as "I'm black but if you critique my work you're racist" There's nothing transcendent about that level of just pure VANITY
@jounamo6035
@jounamo6035 Год назад
Well if many people thought it was blackface while the artist intention was something completely different then it definitely deserves a deeper look to what this painting is about.
@jounamo6035
@jounamo6035 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits The artist never said that though, Thats what people assumed the painting was
@skidmark322
@skidmark322 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits i read your comment as “i’m racist and didn’t even watch the video”
@SourSourSour
@SourSourSour 4 года назад
I only recently became aware of Marshall's Portrait, and really appreciate you taking the time to go over it. Great video!
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 4 года назад
Thank you so much Marc!
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
Yeah because it's generally an unimpressive if not UNCOMFORTABLE picture.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory this painting is morally and aesthetically pretty repulsive. I hope you know you are laundering your colonial hands on this very mediocre token artists face.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@Bunnsie just saying you wouldn't call a hyrobymous botch painting "inspiring" or "couragous" they're disturbing paintings and we all have a laugh cause it's the enjoyment of morbid curiosity. This is close to Duchamp signing a toilet seat and daring people to call it NOT art. You can think it's pretty but I wouldn't even piss on this if I was three sheets to the wind. It doesn't belong in a museum, it belongs in the the bad idea pile.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@Bunnsie just because you like it when people spit in your eye, doesn't mean the rest of have to like similar treatment.
@SudZistheOne
@SudZistheOne Год назад
It’s a shame how ironic the situation is. People trying too hard not to be racist by immediately putting the imagery in the box of “black face” ironically perpetuates the idea that this man in the painting will not be seen as a message or a painting with intention, but a shallow stereotype with no depth or personality. To them, black people are a category to protect, but to never interact with or analyze as a people.
@kevinralfi4641
@kevinralfi4641 Год назад
I understand your comment except the last part, i think you should be specific with what you said because for me it looks like as if you were saying that 'we should not interact with black people nor marked them as people' which is pretty absurd, nonsensical and strange statement. So it would be nice if you explained that last sentence to avoid misunderstood (if it is)
@wepsar
@wepsar Год назад
@@kevinralfi4641 I am pretty sure the meaning of that last statement is, do not interact with a category of people based solely on their skin tone.
@kevinralfi4641
@kevinralfi4641 Год назад
@@wepsar yes that's what i see it, i mean is the sentences the person say is what the person believed or what the person thought the mesage that the painting is trying to give?
@SudZistheOne
@SudZistheOne Год назад
@@kevinralfi4641 it was a sarcastic sentence that uses the logic of the people who condem the painting. It's not my personal belief
@kevinralfi4641
@kevinralfi4641 Год назад
@@SudZistheOne oh, it was a sarcasm, sorry i thought you were giving a serious/actual message or smth, but i can't imagine if that last sentence(before it was edited comment) was an actual statement 💀 Anyways thanks for the clarification/explanation (?)
@potatoboy6094
@potatoboy6094 Год назад
The moment I looked at this painting it struck a cord with me, it is so complex and striking. I will do my best to throw my hat in the ring as to what the title means. I think its important to recognize that an artistic choice can mean more than one thing at once. sure, the choice of black is about his identity as a black man and finding acceptance, but it could also be meant more literally as well. He is a "shadow" of his former self, and shadows are black. So of course he would represent this hollow feeling of no longer being the person you once were, as a vague outline of what he is. lacking nuance or depth, the only identifiers of his individuality being his facial features, and his clothes. it almost feels rebelious, like he's saying " admit it, this empty, vaguely racist figure is essensially all that you see when you look at me" or at least, thats how their ignorance of anything about him besides his blackness makes him feel. like how many people lash out and do inapropiate or controversial things, as a way to express their discontent with their societies in a way that cannot be as easily ignored like you could, say: a mild mannered paper describing the same issues. I do not believe it looks so creepy or kinda fucked up on accident. Unlike a racist charicature that tries to make minorities look inhuman to demonize them and justify further cruelty, the unsettling deconstruction of a human being into nothing but a pair of eyes and a smile is a metaphor for how it feels to be dehumanized, it doesnt look whole or complete because that is how it feels to start believing you are nothing but an outline of who you were, your inner individuality gutted, your identity flatened into a single word, concept, or label.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
Bro, good to know you feel so deeply as you do about blackface. Thanks for sharing, werido
@tape-6
@tape-6 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits you seem very angry
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@tape-6 art can do that. What emotions does white people cashing in Sambo tokens make you feel?
@brandonstarr983
@brandonstarr983 Год назад
I think the title is, in part, a reference to James Joyce's "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," written in 1916. In it, the main character, Stephen Dedalus, feels trapped by society also, as highlighted by his famous statement "History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake."
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
I think you're being EXTREMELY charitable to the author without warrant. Like, there's only a few ways to title a SELF PORTRAIT. I don't believe for a second Marshal had read or understood ANY Joyce
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
And if he was inspired by Joyce it's pretty shifty to do that kind of cultural application without giving thanks the people you're drawing from.
@olivercuenca4109
@olivercuenca4109 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits No it's not, artists regularly allude to other works of art which have inspired them without adding footnotes/bibliography. Also, Marshal may have grown up poor but he was clearly well educated, and I don't see why you can't believe for a moment that he has never even HEARD of one of the most famous writers of the 20th century.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@olivercuenca4109 I'm sure he's heard of Joyce. I don't see how doing James Joyce in blackface is at all tasteful or appropriate. Especially considering the composition of this painting. Yeah Joyce is mostly known for being folksy while carrying an inaccessible and untameable wit, I don't think Marshall is trying to say anything more complex about society than "I deserve more respect". Like a child who hold its breath to manipulate weak parental figures Marshal flagilates for his white audience and projects his anxieties onto this painting. In vain hopes we (the big other) give back to him his infintile sense of ontological completeness. The painting says "don't treat me like 'stereotype' even when I act like a 'stereotype'" Which isn't a great wink and nod at the way society works, but a banal and vain tantrum at the artistic community that supports him. He could have actually painted something that had a dialog with how he feels about the white gaze in society but he lacks both the grace and intellect to do so. Comparing Marshal to Joyce is really vain. It doesn't even work as a joke.
@olivercuenca4109
@olivercuenca4109 Год назад
​@@John_Malka-tits That's a lot of words to say 'I don't like this painting but I don't actually know why'. Also, that was a pretty big turnabout from 'this guy 100% can't have heard of Joyce and it would be charitable to claim he had' to 'I'm sure he's heard of Joyce'.
@Th3J0h4nn
@Th3J0h4nn 4 года назад
A beautifully presented, richly layered video as always, similar to the very paintings you analyse. I love your videos.
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 4 года назад
That is so beautiful and sweet! Thanks!!
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory 🪙 token 🪙
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory the canvas on the toilet* Hmm I need like a black style author that talks about being black so people don't miss that I'm the kind of guy that (isn't a bad person) and recognizes black cashè..
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory you know you could have showcased a black women author- No one's putting a gun to your head and asking you to talk about how great you think black guys are. Are black female artists just not as important to you- Or are you just gay and vain?
@jensiddall9296
@jensiddall9296 3 года назад
This is excellent! I love Marshall's work. One request: can you upload a version of this for the visually impaired? Either upping the contrast in your slides or uploading official subtitles (rather than auto-generated). The low contrast is effective, but it also makes this video harder to share.
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 3 года назад
Absolutely! It's a great idea! Thanks for suggesting it!
@jensiddall9296
@jensiddall9296 3 года назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory Thank you! I can't wait to share this with my students!
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory 🪙 token 🪙
@MoonyInspired
@MoonyInspired Год назад
The meaning i took from this terrifying painting was actually very different: i thought of it by the title. That is what happens when someone loses themselves. That is what happens when you reduce yourself to a shadow, when you, once an artist, once a person, become malice. A portrait of the artist as a shadow of HIS FORMER SELF. Its not only "i am a person", for me, it also says "i am a person, and if i dont remind myself of so, i will turn into a shadow". This painting scares the shit off of me.
@komotss
@komotss Год назад
Maybe im wrong, but i see the name of the painting as Kerry Marshall expressing that he actually did have interest, personality, and an identity. However, society ignored that and casted aside who he is. Instead they put all their attention on what he is: a black man. Because society stereotyped him and other black people, they ignored what made Kerry Marshall a person just like them. They deemed him, practically a nobody and painted him over with black because when society looked at him, they saw nothing but a black man. Kerry felt like that he was just a shadow of who he really was.
@quietcell
@quietcell Год назад
👍🏾
@enharmonics
@enharmonics Год назад
You know, there’s something particularly obnoxious and off-putting about a person who has stalked a video they dislike for days, potentially weeks in order to reply with unprompted and often cruel performative contrarianism on virtually every comment. Great video by the way, Canvas.
@JoeyTv.
@JoeyTv. Год назад
*cough* bug *cough*
@quietcell
@quietcell Год назад
I personally think he should be blocked from the channel and I'm sad it wasn't done sooner. It's annoying for some, harmful for others. Why is it okay to harm us? Why does only physical harm matter? Why can't I watch art videos in peace? I think he proves the point of the painting. He saw black and he had to comment. He saw black and he couldn't see art. He saw black and he couldn't see humanity. He saw black and thought there's no way he could've read Joyce. He saw black and all he could do was spew his emotional drivel filled with a lifetime of distortions and racist grievances. He saw a black man more successful than him for a painting he thinks he could do and he's filled with anger and resentment. Did he comment on the Dadaist squares on paper? No shade to Dadaism, I love it 🖤🖤🖤
@enharmonics
@enharmonics Год назад
@@quietcell I agree completely.
@andrewkwon2808
@andrewkwon2808 Год назад
Home boy (bug) big mad over a video cause it has to do with black people. And not just him, it’s funny seeing videos that touch on these topics (race, gender, sexuality, history, etc)only to have the comment section filled with people like bug. Literally inserting their political views while being obnoxious. Also idk why these people just can’t come out and say,”I hate black (insert minority group) people”, as opposed to writing a bunch of misinformation and generalization and stating them as facts to prove their point. Lol sad.
@turtleboy1188
@turtleboy1188 Год назад
One minute of commenting leads to a century of seething
@pussylumpessru
@pussylumpessru 4 года назад
I love your videos so much, please dont stop making them
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 4 года назад
Thank you so much for the encouragement! It's appreciated!
@ellielawless927
@ellielawless927 3 года назад
I’m not that into art but I love watching your videos, keep it up!
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 3 года назад
This has to be the best compliment you could ever give me! I'm making these videos to introduce people to art (and maybe even develop a love for it) and your testimony shows that it's working! Thank you so much Trevor!
@ellielawless927
@ellielawless927 3 года назад
The Canvas I can tell you that you’re meeting your goal!
@Aplusinskal
@Aplusinskal Год назад
I LOVE this!
@laureng625
@laureng625 3 года назад
Really wonderful video! I was really interested to learn more about this artwork so thank you
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 3 года назад
Awww thank YOU! I'm happy you enjoyed the video :)
@mordredt02
@mordredt02 Год назад
I’m fascinated and sometimes haunted by what I’ve seen of Kerry James Marshall’s work. Another of his creations, “Heirlooms and Accessories”, was recently on display at a local museum as part of a temporary exhibit. From a distance it seems quite ordinary and unremarkable. But taking a closer look and learning of the event that served as a basis for the images reveals a clever and powerful statement on a cruel chapter in America’s history. A chapter that is too often ignored.
@president04
@president04 2 года назад
That ending line left me with goosebumps, great video and analysis!
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits 2 года назад
Ummm... weird. Have you ever heard of racial voyeurism?
@CatfishBradley
@CatfishBradley Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits Who the fuck has????? That sounds silly.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@CatfishBradley 🎵 I'm not a business man, I'm a Business, man. Yo if I dehumanizing myself and LET you throw peanuts at me, it's almost like feeling accepted 🎵 WhY caNt pEoPle sEE paSt mY blAckNess?!?
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@president04 you should get over yourself and your ego. I'm sorry I thought you were "the dude dressed as the dude disguised as another dude"
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@president04 Kerry James: "I painted myself as a minstrel character because people only want to see black people for their race and that kind of discrimination is the WORST kind of alienation a human can feel" Jean: "no no no you misunderstand, I'm not a white man, I'm a black man so you HAVE to treat me differently." Where ever did white folks get the notion that you have to do things like code switch, demonize, or otherwise discriminate against people just for the color of the skin. Oh yeah black people are hooting and rioting to be the object of discrimination. The are appalled by the idea of fair colorblind treatment cause they know they just play the race card to get out of being a responsible adult.
@gunnerpeterson6858
@gunnerpeterson6858 Год назад
The title of this painting really strikes me, and while I'm not quite sure of the meaning as of yet, there are two connections that I'd like to point out. Firstly, it's in iambic pentameter, and reads almost like poetry. It's raw like a heartbeat. Secondly, it could be juxtaposed with the James Joyce novel "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," in which an artist struggles in a society which ignores art as a profession. Joyce never tackled the identity issues at the heart of this portrait in his novel though. So "A Young Man" is replaced with "A Shadow of His Former Self." Whether intentional or not, it struck me deeply.
@jakkob5488
@jakkob5488 Год назад
I'd highly disagree that Joyce never dealt with the issue of identity in the novel. It's pretty clear the whole point was that Dedalus never particularly understood "Irishness", the whole point of the novel being his dissatisfaction/disenfranchisement of this society yet his acknowledgment that it is his home that sends him off to find what being Irish means specifically by leaving Ireland at the end of the novel. Dedalus even noted a couple of times how he appeared disinterested in the Irish language as a part of this "Irishness" in the wake of Irish emancipation. Hell the ending line is literally "to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race," just to hammer home the point. In contrast to that, I think you could extrapolate the title of the painting as this idea of the black man being conceived (and confined) almost entirely within American history, static with the backdrop of slavery (and then reconstruction, convict leasing, segregation, etc.) as imagined to be in the 18th-20th century when the reality of black people has been thoroughly foreign to that of the imagined era, hence the black man is confined as a shadow of his former self.
@gunnerpeterson6858
@gunnerpeterson6858 Год назад
@@jakkob5488 ​You're definitely right, and thank you for pointing this out. What I failed to realize was, of course, the personal experience conveyed in both the painting and novel, which are in fact quite similar. I was concentrating on the more societal differences between being Black in America and being Irish in Ireland, something which I do believe are rather unrelated. But of course, I fell victim to precisely what the painting is trying to convey: the devaluation of the personal experience in the face of being categorized. Your reading highlighted this.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@jakkob5488 really cause what I see is "if you have anything negative to say about my self portrait, and me by extension, you're doing a racism"
@jakkob5488
@jakkob5488 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits Stunning and brave analysis; really sneedful insight, truly. I'm just giving it the benefit of the doubt, hence you *could* read it the way I did, the same way you can read it the way you did.
@jakkob5488
@jakkob5488 Год назад
@@gunnerpeterson6858 Far from unrelated, being Irish in Ireland has many parallels to being black in America; from colonization, starvation, exploitation to then emancipation and the tension between having self-determination as a collective and integration within both supra-societies (cf. NOI, IRA). The big missing piece though is the Atlantic slave trade. What makes the contrast here really is that in Joyce, it was a rejection of the identity placed upon him by Irish society, i.e. that of his own, and in Marshall's was a reflection of the identity placed upon him by American history, not necessarily that of his own as a black American.
@psyants
@psyants Год назад
"To fully understand, appreciate and accept artworks, they require openness and a will to actually understand them; to see them for the complex creations that they are." This is just one of the many amazing quotes we have in this awe inspiring video and that is just beautiful.
@purpleYamask
@purpleYamask Год назад
I adore that you continually used black text on a black bg to keep the theming.
@pranasvaicaitis42
@pranasvaicaitis42 2 года назад
I don't find this paintimg racist at all. Actually, quite thr opposite. The reason of that is the title. No wonder this painter mentioned he experimented surrealism and source of it - title. By that he shows that thr title is part of the painting. "Shadow of former self" means retrospective into black people image or rather stereotype created by white people. "Former self" means "former shadow of his (artist's) race or maybe even hid ancestors". Plus "shadow" only shows forms of an object, not details. That's why this shows stereotype rather actual representation.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
Can I get the name of your dealer?
@pranasvaicaitis42
@pranasvaicaitis42 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits The same as yours.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@pranasvaicaitis42 nah you're on what Nicky Minaj called that "d-d-d-dt-duh-duh duuuuuumb shit"
@pranasvaicaitis42
@pranasvaicaitis42 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits Why? Because my interpretation of this painting is not the same yours?:D
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@pranasvaicaitis42 all I see is Sambo. Idk tell you bro. Sambo isn't some complex illusion to James Joyce is a negative cultural image that this artist is leveraging for attention. You're free to project whatever you feel about this art, I find, and if others were being honest instead of cashing in Tokens, that its a deeply uncomfortable and troubled work.
@theorderofthebees7308
@theorderofthebees7308 Год назад
I had the good fortune to see Kerry James Marshall work up close and personal his work is so rich and varied . I am interested in the fact that it’s titled shadow - and not self portrait there is this idea of dealing with the shadow self the part of us that we don’t want to address. I don’t believe that the artist sees himself as a minstrel act but he well aware that this image of blackness is one he contends with as he moves through the world
@azvka
@azvka Год назад
Good touch the font with the background's black against a black background
@hausof9tarot
@hausof9tarot Год назад
Marshall is what made me stop he’s one of my favorite artists. Growing up my mother made it a point to expose me to lots of art and culture. I clung a lot to surrealist art and artists. Many of them never looking like me. Marshall is the first surrealist artist whose work I got to see in person. When I saw the self portrait I cried. Ironically it was the first time I had truly seen myself in an art genre I held so dear.
@wildercerrate7295
@wildercerrate7295 Год назад
Frank oceans homage through the cover art on his single ‘Lens”
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
Yup, black men have no empathy for anyone else on the planet.
@caleb7775
@caleb7775 Год назад
yesssss ‼️
@demiquemckenzie151
@demiquemckenzie151 Год назад
Love your videos
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory Год назад
Thank you so much!!
@rodicacretu1030
@rodicacretu1030 3 месяца назад
I saw an exhibit of his works in Madrid. I remember two canvases, one completely white and one black except for the white of the eyes, wich made me think of the black cube of Malevitch, the Russian constructivist. So, Malevitch's painting, the ultimate painting of the paintings was overthroned by the humor of Marshall's portrait. If I correctly remember, he did some museographe work, in Baltimore, adding the works of slaves in the displayes of silverwear of the whites
@elsiemabel
@elsiemabel 4 года назад
Yes! Love this painting
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 4 года назад
Me too! Thanks for stopping by!
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits 2 года назад
@@TheCanvasArtHistory it's a bad painting and you should feel bad for hilighting jt
@redwolftrash
@redwolftrash Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits 🎋ys
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@redwolftrash speak English twinkletoes
@ThePooper3000
@ThePooper3000 4 года назад
Will you ever make a video on John Baldessari and/or Richard Prince? I've always found the use of other people's images in painting to be a very interesting technique/idea.
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 4 года назад
That would make a really good topic for a future video! I'd have to look at it. Thanks!
@wmurd
@wmurd Год назад
stealing is not an idea
@Frostbitew
@Frostbitew Год назад
I never realized this notion harder than when I moved out of my home town, and had a group of friends help me move out. I treated them to lunch at my favorite diner. Two of them were black, and they pointed out they were the only black people there. And I sort of realized I was living in a bubble. My hometown is a little more diverse now, but for a long while it was an old white person town
@pepeleyte129
@pepeleyte129 Год назад
A good book that discusses the Black experience as a collectivist one is "the fact of blackness" by Franz Fanon. I recommend it if you are interested in this sort of stuff!
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
Marshal: "I just want people to stop seeing me for just my race!!!!" You shuffling down the street in scuffed up nikes: haz y'all Eva read "da fact of blackness" yo it's about being black . In case you forgot after looking at me I have to remind you in the way I dress, the way I talk, the books I read, the music I listen to, in case I, the people around me or God ever forget I'm a black. Oh what were paintin' on about, Kerry?
@EverTheFractal
@EverTheFractal Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits you need to go get a hobby that isn't this.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@EverTheFractal worry about yourself, bubba
@EverTheFractal
@EverTheFractal Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits kinda hard not to worry about you when you're a full ass adult spending a not inconsiderable amount of time trying to get attention in RU-vid comments. Like for real this does it for you? This?
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@EverTheFractal you're making alot of quantum leaps about my thoughts and feelings. Are you sure you're not worried about yourself? I'm not like you. I don't need attention. I'm right, being right doesn't require validation. When water gets to 220f it doesn't look around to see if anyone cares if it boils, It just boils. Thanks for coming to my Tedd talk.
@miss.dannitiger
@miss.dannitiger Год назад
I cannot wait to read this book
@aledg25
@aledg25 Год назад
Is it just me or is the painting a little creepy looking? It’s the type I’d imagine seeing in a dim lit hallway of an old, exotic mansion or something
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
Yes it's very uncomfortable thank SOMEONE for finally having the guts to point it out
@janeheart2857
@janeheart2857 Год назад
Yeah it’s pretty damn creepy
@pazd8151
@pazd8151 Год назад
@@janeheart2857 Actually I encountered this painting by scrolling though Pinterest, I was digging though pics with eerie feelings, pics with expressive faces and eyes, basically terror images. Then this painting popped up and I was fascinated with the eyes and teeths in contrast with the darkness of the rest of it, I thought it was terrific and when this video show up in my recommendation I could never imagine it had a meanfull background behind it. The way I see it is different now, but that doesn’t change my inicial impression, this painting is terrifying, and at the same time, pretty cool.
@Brunaa_Silvaa
@Brunaa_Silvaa Год назад
I can definitely see where you’re coming from and I agree to some extent. I feel like if I was younger and I found this painting in a dark hallway it would creep me out, but I feel like even that creepiness has a purpose. Black or darkness is often correlated with terror, death, evil. That reading by itself is obviously not racially motivated, it just happens to be a metaphor as old as life; sun or day (light) relates to safety while the moon or night (darkness) relates to danger. I think Kerry made use of that preconceived knowledge to tackle race. More often than not, people will perceive a black man as more dangerous than a white man, and that by itself touches his main point: an individual perceived simply by its skin color is no longer an individual but a character. Objectively speaking, the drawing is not creepy but our own thoughts and ideologies make it creepy. Just like many individuals from the black community are portrayed in a manner that the public attributes to them forgetting that they have interests, thoughts and complexity of their own.
@slothful2039
@slothful2039 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits That’s sorta the point
@NeighborhoodOfBlue
@NeighborhoodOfBlue 2 месяца назад
As an autistic AFAB, I feel deeply connected to Ralph Ellison's story. I also wonder if Reinhard's black canvases induce hallucination and are meant to be a sort of sensory deprivation? That's pretty brilliant to install in an art gallery or museum. It offers respite, relief among so much stimulation.
@DeathAlchemist
@DeathAlchemist Год назад
I think what I find striking about this is the smile. Despite invisibility, we still notice him and even as a shadow he still exists.
@blackandwhiteful
@blackandwhiteful Год назад
Odd opinion but I love how people thought it was racist. Cause they saw a painting of a black man with a big smile and *assumed* a white man painted with racist intentions. They hadn’t considered it to be by a man of colour. The sort of preconceived notions of strangers that “if it’s an artist it’s a white cishet man” and thus opinions are formed: “that this is racist”
@AS-ip4xf
@AS-ip4xf 4 года назад
I have no idea how you have this few subs.
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 4 года назад
Thank you so much! It's a very nice compliment!
@TheGarishGrackle
@TheGarishGrackle 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! HB!
@tescomealdeals
@tescomealdeals Год назад
While the inspiration Marshall took from invisible man is fascinating, it feels a little bit reductive to ignore the even more obvious reference to the James Joyce novel “a portrait of the artist as a young man”. Other than that, great video
@rachelkelly8723
@rachelkelly8723 Год назад
Somewhat of a side comment- immediately thought of the art done for Frank Ocean's 'Lens' song. As per usual, an amazing video. Thank you for the education/analysis.
@nadie7447
@nadie7447 Год назад
It reminds me the self portrait of Basquiatt
@psy_ableman4835
@psy_ableman4835 2 года назад
cant help but wonder if Young Fathers' Cocoa Sugar album art is inspired by that painting
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
No but I think the country bear jamboree was..
@nukal4338
@nukal4338 Год назад
Man I'll never forget someone calling a video game character I liked Barack Obama like every time they spoke about it and hearing it always pissed me off I could never really fully understand my reason why but this is exactly it it feels like its undermining the character as an actual character like all the other characters and just turning him into another black person like the backstory on this specific character doesn't matter because he's just black like Barack Obama its crazy because I personally think I'm the last guy to get really offended by stuff like that like watermelon chicken and no dad stuff never made me think much than that's dumb but the video game character being called just barrack Obama bothered me and I never even fully understood what my problem with it was until I randomly found this video it feels surreal just randomly opening this up
@flandrescarletdevil5844
@flandrescarletdevil5844 Год назад
When this got recommended to me 2 years later...I thought it was another horror story about this painting but luckily it had more symbolism about race and identity rather than another horror story about the portrait being cursed
@ManyLegs
@ManyLegs Год назад
It also interesting that he portraited himself with a nice stylish hat and probably full outfit, but they have no weight defining who who he is. these things are only shadows.
@00nobody001
@00nobody001 Год назад
I love Kerry James Marshall
@edisonlima4647
@edisonlima4647 Год назад
Have you read the works of psychiatrist Frantz Fanon? I think his discussions in "Black Skins, White Masks", in particular, dialogues pretty well with some of the themes in "The Invisible Man".
@rminelee
@rminelee Год назад
What was the music in the intro?
@dylanbrentrabie5679
@dylanbrentrabie5679 Год назад
The painting’s title is inspired by Joyce’s A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
@ScoscobabyOGO
@ScoscobabyOGO Год назад
Every time I see this painting it always scares me. Because it makes me think of fading into nothingness. Also, as much as I love the color black I really appreciate how light bounces of of it to show the shape, shadow and depth of an object. I know the artist intentions probably wasn’t to be scary. But because the subject (his shadow) is flat and an every thing surrounding it is dark. I can’t look at it too long without being scared. An I Also admire the painting for that as well I just can’t look at it for too long with out my heart wanting to jump out of my chest😅.
@serenaevans5582
@serenaevans5582 Год назад
Fascinating
@liammcooper
@liammcooper Год назад
As far as the title is concerned, the reference to Joyce is clear
@KBD-ONE
@KBD-ONE 6 месяцев назад
What's the adjusted for inflation price from the $850 in 1984? About $2,516.81
@user-ev5gj8xe2b
@user-ev5gj8xe2b Год назад
Extremely somber piece and history. "You are not Ralph Ellison, you are a black man" is such a painful line. Also, the piece is gorgeous, and conveys its message well imo.
@ratchet6909
@ratchet6909 Год назад
I don't know about you but I like the painting looks dope.
@MechaHood
@MechaHood Год назад
shouts out to Kerry James Marshall for making the number one type beat thumbnail on RU-vid
@StonedNJRose
@StonedNJRose Год назад
Wow 😮
@lallelol9516
@lallelol9516 Год назад
Woah.
@hola-sn7lh
@hola-sn7lh Год назад
LIKE, THANKS BRUH!
@moodyreviews5498
@moodyreviews5498 Год назад
I think the title of the portrait is ver simple. It is himself but it’s was form of himself. It was him before he had more of a voice or before he knew he was more than just a black man. It could also be a form of himself in the present that is easier for people to see but not who he completely identifies with. However it is His shadow. He has to see who he past identifies with and take ownership. As an Artist he must make a portrait of this as it is his responsibility regardless of how grotesque it looks. My interpretation though
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
If I was your art teacher I would give that comment a C. What does this communicate to the audience BESIDES the artists is maybe black or hateful. It's a deeply uncomfortable work and whites gaze into as a weird form of flagilating, while blacks feel enough narcacistic supply to go see it without realizing it's also making fun of a black audience. It's a deeply cynical and angry painting. Art doesn't have to be beautiful, but it's taboo to call a black ugly.
@moodyreviews5498
@moodyreviews5498 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits I will add that , like the video stated, if you look at it longer there is more complexity in colors. If you look at a black man longer there is more complexity than just his apparent color. It’s a painting of what the artist is to the public but then rejected when it looks bad. But give it time, and there’s more to the art and artist despite it looking like just a shadow.
@John_Malka-tits
@John_Malka-tits Год назад
@@moodyreviews5498 the body is ego. Ego is the attachment to all the fleeting ephemeral qualia of life. Soul doesn't have a skin tone. Soul has been through worse things the Atlantic slave trade and still grows and wanes. I'm sorry being black causes people identity crises but I don't think it's white people's responsibility to dote over those feelings our ego can never fully comprehend. But go ahead and stare at black men, if that's what you need for creative empathy. It's fine to like this work. I mean, I understand the artists intent, I just think ultimately, it's not a grand point about "blackness in america" but rather the vain and tumultuous insecurities of one man using other people's feelings as a shield. Maybe if black people stopped qualifying everything they do as "a black experience" then maybe they would feel more comfortable and could relate easier to people different from themselves.
@tape-6
@tape-6 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits ok you seem to be commenting under as many comments as possible and i just want you to understand that your point of view is euqally as shallow and undeveloped as the ones you are trying to argue against. you seem to be uncomfortable with a piece of art whose clear intention is to make people uncomfortable and don't understand how someone could praise and enjoy a work that dives into unease emotions. i can understand and respect that but can you not spam this extremely basic and uninteresting opinion all over the entire fucking comments section its annoying as hell and is changing no ones mind like jesus christ dude you can just not like a piece of art that other people like without violently mastrubating to your own percieved superiority all over the comments section. jesus fuck
@moodyreviews5498
@moodyreviews5498 Год назад
@@John_Malka-tits I actually would love for black people to see themselves as more than just a black image. I think, unconditionally, we are all people. Despite color and background, we all live and die. However, this was also made by a man in which if you looked dark you had conditions in life. You ate a different restaurant. You drank for a different fountain. You peed in a separate stall. You sat in a seat that was in the back of the bus. You could not go to a nicer school, nor get funding to improve yours. Despite us being human, black people were still treated differently because of how they looked. And none of those criteria changed until black people started mentioning the differences. We all complain about black people mentioning their color, until it takes a law to stop lynching black folks for the slightest disagreement. Ego can cause attachment but it’s not the only defining trait. The environmental reasons encourage people to see themselves a different way. Everyone has their own decisions and choices, but maybe instead of complaining, try to understand how the world portrays them. Maybe empathize and study why. Black identity is not the problem, it’s why people have a problem with it. But ego can also stop a person from realizing that they were the problem all along. It’s a hard pill that almost no one wants to swallow. But things are changing for the better. I encourage more people to draw art like this. It’s grotesque and sometimes uninteresting, but look closer and you can see a truly beautiful story.
@noras.9774
@noras.9774 Год назад
The shadow confirms us, our existence, but the shadow is deformeted; it is us, but not the real us!
@mgpinho07
@mgpinho07 Год назад
Very scary painting
@luiscuixara4622
@luiscuixara4622 2 года назад
I dunno. I may have a problem with your take on the painting and/or Ellison's book, or I may not. I've been looking at Marshall's work tonight, as well as Charly Palmer's, and Kara Walker and K. Wiley were next, but I ran into you on the way there; I'm not unfamiliar with the works of these artists, but you can never get more than enough truth - I'll have to sleep on it, as it's 3:30am, and try to figure out the source of my uneasiness - it may be that there is none. . . I dunno. . . Interesting. (*yawn*) Okay. I'll be back.
@TheCanvasArtHistory
@TheCanvasArtHistory 2 года назад
I'm waiting for an update!!
@lemondrop8203
@lemondrop8203 2 года назад
6 months later...
@luiscuixara4622
@luiscuixara4622 2 года назад
@@lemondrop8203 Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'm still ruminating. I do think the guy posting the editorial was WAY oversimplifying KJM's intention for making the painting. I promise to finish my thoughts, for what they're worth, a little more broadly in the near future. I'm humbled that you've kept an interest for all this time. Peace.
@lemondrop8203
@lemondrop8203 2 года назад
@@luiscuixara4622 lol it's okay
@luiscuixara4622
@luiscuixara4622 2 года назад
@@lemondrop8203 Thanks, Drop.
@milk-ub9zo
@milk-ub9zo Год назад
Maybe «A Portrait of the Artist as a Shadow of His Former Self» is a portrait of the artist before he found is own identity, when he would simply just be perceived as a stereotypical render of a black man
@epicallydiablo5428
@epicallydiablo5428 Год назад
At face value, this painting scared the living soul out of me
@assclown53
@assclown53 Год назад
yeah this painting is fucking creepy
@rosismordet
@rosismordet Год назад
Hablantes del inglés, siempre tan predecibles en sus "opiniones". Cool research!
@NicolasSequeira
@NicolasSequeira Год назад
I agree, these two go very well together thematically
@sreejamuppaneni6661
@sreejamuppaneni6661 3 года назад
Wow
@omarshaw168
@omarshaw168 Год назад
He's saying that the aforementioned portrait is his former self. That self being an invisible black man who just smiled threw the insanity of his social world, and its presence amongst other races. He's seen as a monster, a man with substance, but is unable to prove it because of social set backs & short comings. He exists among others lost behind their own shadows. Unable to be seen, hear or voiced.
@cakeofjustice5674
@cakeofjustice5674 Год назад
iI don't understand how someone who doesn't know the story or the book (it's amazing by the way, I highly recommend it, I'm a gypsy, but I still understand what it's like to be reduced to the fact that you have darker skin than others) can look at that paiting and say it's a racist caricature. When I saw the painting for the first time, it gave me chills, I thought it represented dark thoughts that wants to hide from the light of the world or something like that. Or I wasn't sanctified by Twitter and I don't see something offensive, sexist or racist in everything around me.  ̄\(ツ)/ ̄
@jackroberts2704
@jackroberts2704 Год назад
The black canvasses are just different values of black mixed with other colors. You can't really compare that to the work and greater statement of Marshall's painting.
@Calebthecreator
@Calebthecreator Год назад
They were not comparing how good he thought they were. He was comparing how they both are hard to understand unless you spend a lot of time with them
@blackroses6315
@blackroses6315 6 месяцев назад
Mentioning a bildungsroman and the name “Portrait of the artist as a…” without mentioning James Joyce neglects “Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man,” Joyce’s semi-autobiography about growing up and identity in Ireland. I think some analysis could be made between the various oppressed groups and their interactions here.
@bproductions_8728
@bproductions_8728 Год назад
HOLY SHIT IT'S THE OTHER OPPENHEIMER
@chaosgreedchanel5045
@chaosgreedchanel5045 Год назад
when do he shows the meme of the black guy with the smile?
@baonkang5990
@baonkang5990 Год назад
Reminds me of that meme. where a guy face apears out of the shadows and goes ehehehe.
@Loooore3483
@Loooore3483 Год назад
that painting looks like Mikel Afton at the end of fnaf sister location, but black instead of purple
@raycooper3269
@raycooper3269 Год назад
This image should be presented as a U. S. Postal Stamp.
@saintblankie
@saintblankie Год назад
I don't get why people see race in this painting and depicted it as a caricature of black people. I see this painting as a depiction of the artist's past regrets or his sinful past. Maybe in his younger years, he did something bad and was proud of it at the moment but as he got older he felt remorse thinking about it.Probably why he titled it as A Shadow of his Former Self. But this is just my own interpretation.
@turtleboy1188
@turtleboy1188 Год назад
La creatura
@BeholdDaPilgrim
@BeholdDaPilgrim Год назад
Wtf? I had this artist on the ACT yesterday
@McChickenIsNotReal
@McChickenIsNotReal Год назад
When I think about it. It’s still the same today. People only see black people as a group of people who need help. While in reality you have to look at the individual. Fighting fire with fire isn’t the right way. It’ll just make the fire larger and more dangerous.
@Lucaslfm1
@Lucaslfm1 3 года назад
Nice video. The discussion is fascinating. Makes me think about all the discussion we have today coming from radical ideas, where we are being encouraged to let go of individuality and perceive people only by the "oppression group" they might fit in (race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.)
@JohnSmith-km4sv
@JohnSmith-km4sv Год назад
Frankly, even without the context I can't see how this picture can be considered racist. I didn't even connect it with race, blackfaces and other stuff, until I started watching the video and heard about its story.
@thisishere3071
@thisishere3071 Год назад
very cool
@n00bius
@n00bius Год назад
I dont wanna be rude or anything but this reminds me of a meme that has a guy almost exactly like the man in the painting
@archaic1
@archaic1 7 месяцев назад
real
@MrAceofspades627
@MrAceofspades627 Год назад
I can 100% see the value of Marshall's "A Portrait of the Artist as a Shadow of His Former Self", even as a total brainless dolt whos never cared much for painting. However, i cannot, shall not, WILL NOT EVER concede that the "Ultimate Paintings" are deep and brilliant. that's just a black canvas.
@BonnieDonaville
@BonnieDonaville Год назад
why does he spell color like that?
@smollmanji
@smollmanji Год назад
American spelling I think
@Dr.HooWho
@Dr.HooWho Год назад
That art Would be a badass villain
@AniMikeTions
@AniMikeTions Год назад
OMG Mandela Catalog!!!!
@BarbEricNinja
@BarbEricNinja Год назад
this painting reminds me of the babadook
@angelomariano9494
@angelomariano9494 Год назад
Painted by a white man, it would read as racist (same exact painting, different potential outcome). Now is a masterpiece. Wondering if I have a shot as an Italian immigrant ;)
@advancedmonkey7702
@advancedmonkey7702 Год назад
So who is telling you to look for the color and never forgot the color of your skin in the first place?
@MatthewCJoy
@MatthewCJoy Год назад
People calling the painting racist are so damn stupid it's incredible.
@daroachdawgjr
@daroachdawgjr Год назад
Sheeeiiitttt
@midwaygamer-ou3my
@midwaygamer-ou3my Год назад
people saw it as racist when they first saw it? when I saw it I didn't think it was racist at all until you said it was and then put the idea in my head and now I can see it. at first I just thought it was a cool creepy painting.
@racist2708
@racist2708 Год назад
ok
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