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I first heard about this while exploring the extra features on the Blu-ray edition of the movie "Gravity." Very interesting documentary. All I have to say is, "It is humbling how space reveals the fragility of man-made objects."
So I was navy and worked on F14s for a very brief time before they retired them in 2004/05 and then the F18 E/F in the navy for a fighter squadron out of NAS Oceana. Around May 2007, we were at Fallon Nevada, where we start our work ups. we were there for 30 days for training , out to the east of the base there are some smaller mountains, I am looking at maps now and I would say around the area of SAR Mountain and Grimes Point Archaeological area some lights appeared around twilight, looked like bright search lights but attached to nothing, made no noise and they just sat there over that mountain. After about 20 mins 2 aircraft scrambled loaded and armed, being ground crew we hurried and got the aircraft up, after the aircraft took off by this point being night, the lights vanished followed by the aircraft returning and we were all ordered not to speak about this incident. Followed shortly after on May 7th 2007, HS 7 dusty dogs losing a helicopter “on a training accident” I’m not in to conspiracies but this incident has stayed with me to this day and has always bothered me. The division officers came around and ordered us to not speak about this incident and to this day, I have friends who either served or still still serving bring this time period up time to time. Anyways thanks. Update to this, I looked up the news story from this and it stated that the accident happened 10 miles to the west of Austin Nevada in central Nevada, that is 89 miles east of Fallon but in the same direction of the lights that kept appearing. They claimed that the helicopter hit a high power line, but when we were on the ground we were told the helicopter just lost all power and hit the ground, Just always has bothered me. I don’t want to reveal myself out of fear of retaliation but I gave you all the facts of that week at Fallon. Do what you will with it.
There's 23,000 pieces of debris larger than a soft ball currently orbiting earth . There's a video of a paint chip hitting the shuttle window . Kessler was/is 100% right .
SMH at that pic @ 7:20!! That's Exaggeration Level: INFINITY!! That pic is showing a debris field that has the total mass of about 2 Earths!! 😆😂🤣 Let bring this back into perspective, chief!! Here on Earth at any moment, there are an estimated 50-100 Billion birds and insects aloft in the air at the same time. Are they blocking out the sun? Do you even see them if you look straight up into the sky? Hell no!! SMDH!! The farther away from Earth, the larger the area. You'd have better chances at winning the lottery twice in a row and striking 2 airliners with a carelessly launched rocket, than getting within 10mi of a piece of debris and that's if you launched straight up through all the orbital paths. 😆😂🤣
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT the truth is it isn’t exaggeration. It’s just that, to show every space junk each one at one pixel, this would be it. Clearly failed science.
@@mlgklipz2543 So if this farce is "truth", then each piece of debris is being illustrated as 1-5 cubic miles in size. Sorry I do not excuse the "Boo Hoo 1 pixel" excuse, especially since he purposely created the illustration in low resolution. Dude you fail math and reality!! 😆😂🤣
There is a Manga/Anime series called Planetes. Corporations/Nations have massive assets in orbit. On the lowest rung of ones corporate ladder is Debris Removal. First thing I thought of when I saw this.
They need to build a reprocessing center in orbit complete with small ships to collect the trash! What a great idea! Too bad I'll never get any credit... Oh well. Think of it. It would be a whole industry in orbit! And, it will become a permanent industry with continual orbital cleanup to maintain a safe orbital environment.
If we made a sling shot type arm that is width adjustable. They could grab them and use momentum to throw them out into space. Reuseable and cost effective. by using a catapult they could use simple spring loading or simple hydraulic systems for a launching system... Like we launch jets off an Aircraft Carrier. Except you would not need that much effort as Extremly low to NO gravity...
To people that didnt take a single physics class in school the ideas of how fast things are moving in space just arent understandable. I did ok in physics in high school but wasn't good enough at math to pursue the interest further , when I try to explain to people how fast shits going and why it matters most ppl straight up cant imagine it. People that shoot guns a lot get it.
C'mon you can see this is nothing but fear porn. SMH at that pic @ 7:20!! That's Exaggeration Level: INFINITY!! Even with a lil physics you should be able to see, that pic is showing a debris field that if compressed, would have the mass of about 2 Earths!! 😆😂🤣 Let bring this back into perspective, chief!! Here on Earth at any moment, there are an estimated 50-100 Billion birds and insects aloft in the air at the same time. Are they blocking out the sun? Do you even see them if you look straight up into the sky? Heck no!! The farther away from Earth, the larger the area. You'd have better chances at winning the lottery twice in a row and striking 2 airliners with a carelessly launched rocket, than getting within 10mi of a piece of debris and that's if you launched straight up through all the orbital paths. 😆😂🤣
Good reminder. It doesn't help that a lot of the footage we general public see appears to show satellites gently floating, you get lulled into being complacent about the danger.
It's going to happen, and at the worst possible time, or so it will feel. I've known this for almost a decade now. But we'll have a few decades until it could happen. Just a gut feeling, and yes it can be avoided
Relax this just another fear-porn vid. SMH at that pic @ 7:20!! That's Exaggeration Level: INFINITY!! That pic is showing a debris field that has the mass of about 2 Earths!! 😆😂🤣 Let bring this back into perspective, chief!! Here on Earth at any moment, there are an estimated 50-100 Billion birds and insects aloft in the air at the same time. Are they blocking out the sun? Do you even see them if you look straight up into the sky? Heck no!! The farther away from Earth, the larger the area. You'd have better chances at winning the lottery twice in a row and striking 2 airliners with a carelessly launched rocket, than getting within 10mi of a piece of debris and that's if you launched straight up through all the orbital paths. 😆😂🤣
It's funny, we have tons of people around the world picking up garbage from beaches, roads, parks, you name it. Yet with all of the geniuses working in the space community, no one can come up with a viable solution to clean up this mess. LOL You know, this would be a PR Dream for Glad trash bags. I'll explain... What if Glad in conjunction with SpaceX & NASA, created a compressed, yet highly expandable & durable Space Trash Bag that would be deployed by a new updated space craft, designed and built by SpaceX, to replace the old NASA shuttles, so that they could collect all of that dangerous space debris and launch it towards the sun! 😁👍
What happens when Governments change, such as when the Soviet Union broke up ... Which Government is responsible ? When Companies go bust, who is responsible ... etc.
At 7:45 You mentioned that the Russian Space Agency saved the spacecraft by maneuvering to dodge the space debris from China's anti-satellite test a decade ago. Then at 8:00 You talk about how the US state department blamed Russia for it's irresponsible behavior?!? There must be a mistake here
why dont they take everything off line and try to clean it up? move the ISS to a higher altitude and put something up there to act as a giant garbage can to gather up all the bits, then they can recycle whats up there.
14 tons/day Al in atmosphere - why is this significant against the 10 tons/day meteoric flux that occurs continuously? Even if that Al flux continued for 100 years (my imagined duration of a Kessler cascade) it would be less that a billionth of a percent of the atmosphere - it would be almost unmeasureable, basically, negligible.
This video is a funny thing. Just last night I was talking with a coworker about our greatest fears. She said "Spiders, but big spiders, like spiders the size of a hand or a dinner plate." It was very typical and I kinda giggled at her response. She said "Well, what is your greatest fear, Mister Tough Man?" I simply responded "Kessler Syndrome" and she had no clue what it was. Cue a 10 minute explanation of Kessler Syndrome and how it is a very real possibility and why it is so terrifying to me. Outside of total nuclear war, Kessler Syndrome is truly my biggest fear. It would basically end modern humanity as it is. It's almost impossible to clean up, and prevents us from ever leaving the planet. If that's not terrifying to you, then you have to think bigger. Imagine 2,000 years from now when we actually have to leave the planet, but we cant because of a deadly cloud of projectiles that we made.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Lol why does the planet have to suffer because of so few people making worse choices? I never get this nihilistic/narcissistic view, some think cuz their life experience isn't peachy the whole world should suffer. Just gross, what a icky thought. :O
@@Ctofer93 It's not karma for anything I've experienced and I contribute to the problem as much as anyone else, I'm also a part of humanity who participates in all the activities that might cause the earth to want to remove us as a pathogen. The planet suffers because of us, the planet removing us would reduce the planet's suffering.
I had a thought and was curious if anyone had an opinion. I know issue for space travel is mirco particles hitting the ship at high speed and a heavy enough piece of shielding isnt practicle from what i understand to take the impact. Could it be possible to use a high powered laser (like for rust removal which is tiny particles) to generate a shield of sorts in front of ship to protect from micro impacts by destroying the particles before they can impact the ship?
So an odd thought: What if Russia’s idea of preventing space based weapons is to make near earth space uninhabitable by satellites? Keep the fight in the air and on the ground and ensure space is off limits because it’s not possible due to the debris… Honestly it’s a great equalizer…
A great equalizer to shoot your own foot? This space debris will affect the weather in Russia too, causing famine. Not an odd thought, just a dumb one!
The alarmism about contamination of the atmosphere is unnecessary - the statistical probability of a debris cascade that stymies access to space is bad enough. After this happens, the only access to space will be via armored lift vehicles. Starship may remain usable if it can devote a significant proportion of its 100 tonne lift capacity to carrying enough armor to survive ascent and orbit.
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overcoming these hazards is not as impossible as some seem determined to pretend, we will simply need to build more durable SSTO's, this need is already necessary to achieve our current solar aspirations.
This is easily solved by gradual gravitational decay. Although it works, and we do not have to do anything, it’s like waiting for plastics to break down (hundreds of years
"There's no doubt about it, Jim. The Vulcan ambassador has Kessler's Syndrome." "How bad is it, Bones?" "It's already in the final stages. Within a week he will become a fish."
@@leonardgibney2997 the video states all the aluminum in the lower orbit is bad, it drops over 14tons in our atmosphere causing heat retention and more issues. So it is causing more climate change.
The main problem is as always money, it's easy and cheap to make a mess it's harder and expensive to clean it up. they could send up a device with a large electromagnet to do clean up, send it to the sun when it's done but it would cost alot.
Couple years ago, a scientist proposed scooping up space debris to use as building material for moon base, instead of launching the materials from earth.
The disconnect between the military and space commands tho is hilarious. The Russians saved the station days earlier, then they blow shit up next to it - and the Russian space command is yelling at their military like "dude what the FUCK" cause they're just so tired of dodging trash
Y'all understand that the the space surrounding Earth is much greater than the entire surface of earth in size, right? And that you can continue multiplying the surface of Earth by x2 for every few meters "up" (further from Earth) you go in space. The surface of Earth acts as a 2D plane whereas space is a 3D plane so you can go higher or lower in space and create a whole new linear plane that is greater than the entire surface of Earth a second time.. and again for another time and again for another. Try covering the surface of Earth only with stuff we've put into space. Careful not to underestimate the size of our planet (which is large enough to be incomprehensible to any human brain). Knowing the values of Earth doesn't mean you comprehend its size.
Seems like we could adapt the spider bots that are going to explore the moon's caves. Just attach a small rocket or thrusters, let it attach to junk and boost it away from earth or force it into the atmosphere.
I find this particular 'threat' to be a little overblown. There are two fixes I see, 1 easy and doable now, one more futuristic. #1 There is a LOT of orbital space around the earth. Low earth orbit is crowded? Launch to higher orbits and do so more carefully so there's no debris cloud generated there. GETTING there might be a bit more dangerous having to pass through low orbit's debris field, but we have computers that can calculate safe trajectories easily enough. #2 all SF spaceships have 'shields', energy fields coating their ships protecting them from meteroid/debris strikes as well as space weapons fire. We start seriously developing these. The theory is known, several concepts are predicted to be workable. So lets get Star Trekky for reals!
The problem with going higher is that the debris will stay up there longer... like millions of years. And also, the more stuff we send up there, the more we pollute our atmosphere. We should probably stop sending things up into orbit until we actually do develop star Trek technology, which could take centuries.
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Just a suggestion, a space vaccu cleaner, that gathers the various items floating. Like a remote vehicle. It could gather valuable material, for reuse. From a ordinary common sense person. Similar to what they want to clean up the oceans of plastics.
The only problem with having something like that in space is we would have to send something up there that would match the velocity of the objects that are flying in space already. Most of the space debris is flying so fast it would rip right through the vacuum cleaner just like it would the ISS or any other space craft. And having to do that for every piece of space junk that’s traveling different speeds relevant to earth would probably be to hard.
@@griffinstadler you are right in the speed of the junk ,maybe in the future someone will come up a device 'Some space project using magnetic action was discussed some time ago, You have nice weekend and thanks
If someone came up with a way to go up and started collecting all that space junk and bringing it back to earth, he or she could become a millionaire with all the precious metals that could be recovered.
Relax this just another fear-porn vid. SMH at that pic @ 7:20!! That's Exaggeration Level: INFINITY!! That pic is showing a debris field that has the mass of about 2 Earths!! 😆😂🤣 Let bring this back into perspective, chief!! Here on Earth at any moment, there are an estimated 50-100 Billion birds and insects aloft in the air at the same time. Are they blocking out the sun? Do you even see them if you look straight up into the sky? Heck no!! The farther away from Earth, the larger the area. You'd have better chances at winning the lottery twice in a row and striking 2 airliners with a carelessly launched rocket, than getting within 10mi of a piece of debris and that's if you launched straight up through all the orbital paths. 😆😂🤣
Explosions in space don't work in the same way as in Earth's atmosphere. As there is almost a vacuum at orbit type ranges there are few particles to bump into each other ... Did you realise that you would not even hear the 'bang' of an explosion because of this ? Space films always get this wrong, as noise has no medium to transfer sound ...
Would it be possible to deploy a big "net" to catch a bunch of debris and/or old satellites and bundle them up, attach some form of propulsion, and have the junk towed to the moon?
Badjib : I was actually thinking the same thing while I was commenting. That’s some good stuff we could use for less energy costs and certainly transportation costs. Just like we recycle things here on earth. Also companies and countries would pay well for it.
Time for an entrepreneur to develop a space junk removal vehicle. Besides the valuable metals, I’m certain there is some priceless technology in some of those satellites. I remember back in the 70’s Andy Griffith did a television movie about just such a venture.
Why? Do you only use Starlink or something? Except for that the internet is 100% terrestrial with cables. Cellphone network towers are also on the planet and not in space. Do you live in a fantasy world or something? The kessler syndrome only means that it will be hard to do space exploration but is absolutely irrelevant for any mindless consumer normie doomscroller. YOU will not even notice the kessler syndrome happening.
@@Jester-Riddle ye of course... I don't think we have the technology for that yet. I mean, we have it, but it's far too expensive for the amount of material that should be put into orbit.
We have been cooperating in space for decades now. The problem is that our science has created problems that we didn't anticipate. It seems like all the unnatural things we create wind up polluting our fragile natural world. Maybe we're short-sighted and not cautious enough when it comes to science.
What Billionaire is going to become a hero and build a means to gather as much of this stuff for deorbiting. The plastic floating islands in the Pacific has started. So the time is now.
Just another grain in the heap of evidence that we have enough existential threats, without needing to add in the hypocrisy and close mindedness of 'progressivism'.
Wait if Russia's maneuver saved the space station, why are we bitching about reckless behavior? Shouldn't they be praised for their quick thinking and fast action and a face of an unprecedented potential catastrophe? What am I missing here?
This is what scares me about Starlink and companies doing the same thing. My word, we’re already in a shooting gallery. Be careful playing gravity games!!!
Starlink is considered to be in a very low orbit, basically if they run out of fuel it won’t take long for them to deorbit and burn up in the atmosphere leaving no debris in space.
