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Kestrel MV Temp Tables | Todd Hodnett from Accuracy 1st 

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Todd Hodnett, the founder of Accuracy 1st, discusses how to build your MV temperature table in your Kestrel, giving you a firing solution for all conditions.
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@wvlongshooter3912
@wvlongshooter3912 5 лет назад
I have been running mv temp variations in my custom charts since the early 1990’s, a system derived by Jackson’s Rifles that I’ve put my own twist on. I was extremely excited when y’all enabled the AB Kestrel to control mv temperature powder and cartridge variations. This feature puts the Kestrel AB ballistic computer in a league by itself!!!! As always Todd and Applied Ballistics, you folks rock!!! I really appreciate this video!!!! Thanks to Kestrel too!!
@KestrelBallistics
@KestrelBallistics 5 лет назад
It's always a pleasure hearing from you! Thanks for watching. Regards The Kestrel Team
@timnowak7749
@timnowak7749 3 года назад
I would have to agree that ammo temp does play a role 100% but even more critical is barrel temp seems like you need to freeze and heat barrel at same temp as ammo to get proper reading. If you shoot 22 LR it’s even more critical. Just my 2 cents.
@LiquidColourDesignBallycarry
@LiquidColourDesignBallycarry 2 месяца назад
by any chance you could publish your data as im very much interested in temp tables in 22lr? many thanks
@MaxairEngineering
@MaxairEngineering 4 года назад
Practical Tactical what? I shot an Antelope this year at 638 yards and hit exactly where I wanted to at 27°F. I had time to set up the shot and had a drops in yards on my turret for 30°F temps and 70° F at my known hunting altitude. Both drops accounted for Density Altitude and muzzle velocity at those temps. I knew my ammo had warmed in the covered bed of my black pickup bed to at least 50-60°. So I set between my two deltas to hit muzzle velocity while being reasonably close on atmospherics. As I said, a perfect hit high shoulder. Had I not accounted for my warm ammo, I might have missed or worst yet wounded the animal.
@gixxerman6
@gixxerman6 2 года назад
I purchased a dual laser infrared thermometer but i can not tell if i'm getting correct readings. any pointers? Thanks in advance.
@DanBrock
@DanBrock 4 года назад
OK, I'm good up until the part at 4 min for ammo that is warmer than atmosphere. I don't understand. Turn on the MV-Temp table, look at the speed for 70 degrees, turn off the table?? Do you then put that 70 degree speed as your MV? Won't that screw everything up when you go to put it back to where you had it if your enviro readings are different than when you put the MV in there? I really don't think so but do I want to risk it when everything is working brilliantly out to 2500. I'm pretty sure I've watched every video twice trying to figure this out and I'm wondering if that is what the actual solution is since tech support could not answer my question.
@KestrelBallistics
@KestrelBallistics 4 года назад
Once you turn on the mv temp table the MV will automatically change in direct correlation with the values input into the table as data points. If your ammo is at a different temp than ambient environmental temps, either colder or warmer, turn the MV temp on and then go to environment and change the environment temp to match the ammo temp. This automatically changes the MV in the gun profile to match the ammo burn rate variability at whatever temperature it is based off the data points you have input into the table. Then turn the temp table to OFF. Then go back and update the environment to capture current atmospherics. By turning the table off prior to updating to current atmospherics, we lock in the MV associated with the burn rate of the powder at whatever the temp of the ammo is, and then by updating we get the atmospherics required for ballistic calculations. If everything is working brilliantly out to 2500m I would suggest inputting a data point into the temp table of whatever MV you have and the current temp. This way if you turn the temp table on, and encounter the same temp then you MV will always come back to this value.
@threadingRobiin
@threadingRobiin 4 года назад
@@KestrelBallistics Can you please make a video about this? Cheers
@Alpha_Wolf.
@Alpha_Wolf. Месяц назад
@@KestrelBallisticsplease make a practical video regarding this
@paulhayden255
@paulhayden255 3 года назад
I understand in order to get an idea of different temperatures affecting the powder burn rates and therefore changing MV that is what the MV Temp Table is for, but I am having a hard time understanding this. Doesn't the AB Kestrel assume the ammo temperature is the same as the ambient/air temp when calculating MV. Other words let's say you are on a hunt and the ambient/air temperature is 32F, but you just loaded your rifle with ammo that was in your pocket and close to your body temperature 98F or the sun warmed the rifle and also warmed the round in the chamber wouldn't that change the MV. I guess what I am getting at it seems like in order for all this to be accurate the AB Kestrel needs to know the temperature of the ammo along with the ambient/air temp.
@GermanHunter
@GermanHunter 2 года назад
Should I input the MV at a certain temperature of the ammo based on what the chrono says o based on the trued MV from the Kestrel?
@KestrelBallistics
@KestrelBallistics 2 года назад
I would use the trued MV from the Kestrel. It is factoring in other things besides the MV when you are truing.
@beyondtwominutes
@beyondtwominutes 3 года назад
Using re 15 I have to use this.
@KameronATM
@KameronATM 4 года назад
How fast have you found the brass to adjust to ambient when lasing the temp? Ex: i took my mag out of the ice chest and within a minute it seemed to jump 10 degrees and I am not sure which was more accurate without pulling the bullet to actually lase the powder...
@jaybigboy34
@jaybigboy34 3 года назад
This is a great feature but if you have a powder that swings mv by allot of fps, wouldn't most be out of its node?
@KestrelBallistics
@KestrelBallistics 3 года назад
This situation is the perfect example of why you would want to use the table. By measuring the MV at a higher temp and a much lower temp, the Kestrel can determine the slope of the changes by temperature and thus make the proper adjustments depending on the conditions.
@andrew13651
@andrew13651 2 года назад
@@KestrelBallistics can the curve be an actual curve (temp v fps); or is it forced to be a liar profile with only a high and low end? There are 5 available inputs, so idk which is what the kestrel actually calculates with (a factor corrected linear curve or absolutely user accurate true curve)?
@andrew13651
@andrew13651 2 года назад
I also wonder a lot about my inability to use/find multi-BC's at different fps/distance. That was the entire reason I sprang for the Elite 5700 - best I can figure is buying the AB custom curve....but that still isn't a curve that is directly connected to my DOPE/my gun. In Strelok I can do all of this and for now at least my Strelok phone app is much more accurate if I get temp and DA from the kestrel....which is more cumbersome than I was hoping for given the $700 kestrel vs ~20$ app - Am I missing something I am new to kettle in general so could be I haven't yet found this option, would love to hear Kestrel's input if I can actually alter/make my own multi-BC table...
@KestrelBallistics
@KestrelBallistics 2 года назад
@@andrew13651 sorry for the late response. If you have the Elite, you don't have to buy the custom drag curves, just connect to our Kestrel LINK Ballistics app and find your bullet profile. You can then tailor the BC in the trans and subsonic regions by using the Cal DSF function on the Kestrel. There is no reason why the Kestrel should not be as accurate as Strelok. It may be best to continue conversation on email by sending to techsupport@nkhome.com
@zhouyunhezhou3470
@zhouyunhezhou3470 2 года назад
the video image is too poor, you need to fix it more
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy 4 года назад
I can’t believe you are actually telling us to use the actual ammo temperature. I’m sorry, but that is impractical and counter-productive. The ammo temperature may differ from the atmospheric temperature but that difference is relative. Since the Kestrel cannot detect your ammo temperature but it can detect the atmospheric temperature, you should simply ignore the ammo temperature and use air temperature. Furthermore, since the ammo temperature may not correlate to the atmospheric temperature, you would be creating a variance that would make the kestrel apply incorrect MV offsets when all it knows is air temp… not ammo temp.
@bdeshi9323
@bdeshi9323 2 года назад
Atmospheric will affect the ballistics and flight. Ammo temp can affect the MV which is one of the key bases for the atmosphere to affect. I think you are missing the difference. He's mentioning this as a data collection point to understand your ammo. Many times in So Cal its 30 degrees and later in the afternoon its 80 degrees you are correct in the ballistics charge and the density altitude but when the ammo is sitting out in the sun on the table that will also cause some big shifts if you aren't checking the MV through a chrono again.
@yuccaman3545
@yuccaman3545 Год назад
You are correct that atmospheric temperature will effect air density and bullet flight. You are confused about the process of locking in the bullet temp in the MV-Temp table. What he is saying is, after determine the bullet temp you manually change the temp on the Kestrel to match the bullet temp then you turnoff the MV-Temp to lock in the bullet temp so it can adjust for MV. After this you will capture the actual atmospheric temp and by locking the MV table the bullet temp will not change to atmospheric temp. Now if your bullet is at the same temp as the atmospheric temp you will turn on the MV-Temp which will adjust the bullet temp to the actual atmospheric temps. And yes its all relative, as he mentions it all depends on how temp sensitive your powder is and the difference in temp in the bullet and atmospheric temp.
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