Mick doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke, never took drugs. The man had major surgery and broke down and took Tylenol. He’s been married to the same woman for 30+ years, and has two kids that love, respect, and willingly communicate with him. He’s also a certified living legend of the sport, and I can’t think of one person who has a bad word to say about or against him. Oh, and drew ridiculous amounts of money. And Hulk is Hulk.
@@shoeplayisbad1 That is just patently not true. I know lots of fans on a personal level - not Internet strangers, actual people both who watch the product and are IN the business - who told me that they specifically went to events to see Mick. People I know also regularly mentioned Taker, Triple H and Jericho but if any of those were on a card, people wanted to go. Mick was one. And when WWF started beating WCW in the ratings, it was WCW fans tuning in to see Mick win the title. That's actual hard proof right there that he is indeed 'a draw'. If you know enough about wrestling to be on a Kevin Nash video, you know Mick drew so I have no idea why you'd say he didn't. Nobody would argue that Mick drew on a level of Austin or Hogan - Mick himself wouldn't. During the Attitude era they were filled with heavy talent - Austin, Rock, Bret, HBK, Taker, HHH and others - and Foley was working with them all and enhancing them all. Yes, he was a draw more than a mid card. The amount of DVDs WWE made about him had to mean *he* sells. I don't see the WWE rushing out to put on a Shelton Benjamin collection yet they still keep giving Foley, a guy who criticises them, air time.
Mick is better talent than hogan ever will be. Mick will actual give guys pushes they deserve, where hogan will do everything he can to make sure hes on top, wish harley race ended hogans career
@@RaineRedNash is pretty straight up about recognizing people’s faults even his own friends. I always laugh when he mimes Hulk “that’s not gonna work for me brother”
He was sooooo handsome and adorable! In those early years, to my eye and my tastes, Mick Foley was the cutest, sexiest, most adorable of ALL of them. Seriously. His charm, intellect, kind heart, passion, talent, sense of humor, and his easy warm charisma makes him all the more endearing and attractive.
Hogan's entire spine is fused. Foley had a gimmick and lived it. He has a family that loves him, he's happy, he's a successful writer. Mick has something that Hogan will never have and that's a full successful HAPPY life. More people will say nice things about Mick than will ever say about Hulk.
How do you know hulk doesn't have a happy life? People might speak better of Foley but the history books show Hogan as one of the biggest guys in wrestling history. But both guys are great.
@@MysticKing777 If Terry’s mouth is moving, 8 times out of 10, he’s either lying or embellishing. This is well known and it’s not an opinion. He lies like most people breathe. He’s a prick for saying shit about the most lovable man in the history of pro-wrestling. Also, I’d take Mick ANY day over Hogan.
Micks body type was crazy but he could go toe to toe with anybody on the mic . Mick was also one of the best storytellers of all time . He mostly gets remembered for his extreme stunts tho unfortunately
Yea his body might have been whatever but he had crazy good cardio for a man his size. I'll take that over these roided up guys who look like Greek Gods but blow up after 5 minutes.
@@Rjensen2 Anyways. Mick is one of the best character workers of all time; no debate. For a guy who looks like that to get as over as he did, his work was to connect with people and that's the charisma he had.
@@bloodangel13 All true and a great character actor. Yet, because he was an idiot with the stunts, not only is that what most remember (the younger ones), he laid a foundation of moronic followers that only did that.
@bryanmack4054 I think even Brett was a diehard hbk fan during that match considering hogan treated hart worse than shawn. Neither were huge men so to idiot hogan not wrestlers.
It amazes me: every now and then, I think "There is no way I can possibly lose more respect for Hogan. Clearly we've reached the bottom." And then I catch him saying something new (or at least new to me) and discover he's still digging...
I never saw this clip either. I need to go watch it in full because its sounds like hogan starts to say "not to bash mick" or something along those lines. And it gets cut off. Full context might not be as bad. Idk
@@talkinsmak if its the one I think it is, I've seen full episode, and I reckon it gets worse! Hogan starts talking about " not having to prostitute his body" I saw it ages ago, so I could be wrong, but pretty sure that's the one
@@talkinsmakso as long as you start of with "not to bash Mick" then proceed to bash Mick makes it somehow better? That like using "just sayin" after insulting someone.
Hogan hasn’t just tarnished his image over the years. He’s doused it in paint and mud, buried it in concrete, and then dropped it into the ocean. Other wrestlers HATED him backstage, because every storyline he pitched had to be all about him. His ego and narcissism hamstrung and ruined so many storylines and killed so many careers and gimmicks over the years that I’m surprised no one ever gave him a good old fashioned blanket party for it.
Agreed. What would JC have to gain by trashing Hogan for no reason? Any number of ex WWE employees have skirted around similar stories ie Hogan's BS and been afraid to call it BS, Cornette just goes in and calls it.
@@miguelLDiablo Just the Undertaker story when he took his tombstone and pretended that he had a neck injury... he made Taker feel like shit for a few days thinking he hurt the biggest dude in the company. 'Uh... ooww.. you got me brother... you got me...' Taker had a heart attack. lol
@BronzeBullBalls or the one where he claimed he was approached by Datren Aronofsky to play the lead part in The Wrestler starring Mickey Rourke. Hogan claimed he was cast as the lead and turned it down. Aronofsky confirmed he was never even considered, as he's a serious director. More BS. Too many people calling out his BS to be a coincidence.
The show was Off The Record with Michael Landsburg , the channel was and still is The Sports Network (TSN) from Ontario, Canada. He had some pretty decent interviews, and even had Vince McMahon at one point.
If you look at it, prior to the Hulkamania Era, 85% of wrestlers were like Mick Foley. They didn't have bodybuilder wrestlers much except Billy Graham, Tony Atlas, Jesse Ventura, and Paul Ellering. When Hogan popularity rise, then the bodybuilders became a known factor in wrestling. Yeah we had Ricky Steamboat, Jimmy Snuka, and Ken Patera but these guys wasn't remembered much about that. It was the story and characters they had developed. Mick kinda reminds fans that you don't have to be a Lex Luger or Ultimate Warrior, all it takes a good story and emotion in wrestling.
@@russblack443 They did competed one another in that competition but wrestling in general. The fans remembered them more for their ring work than their bodies.
exactly. if he was muscled up he couldn't have taken the type of bumps he took. the fat gave him padding to freakin do flat backs on concrete (hogan never did that), jump off a cage, elbow drops from the apron to the concrete floor etc
Mick was intelligent enough to recognize his strengths and his weaknesses. He may not have had the typical wrestler physique, but he had a body built to absorb ungodly levels of punishment in the ring!
Hogan taking a shot at Mick does not surprise me. He is probably pretty jealous of all Mick has accomplished. No drinking, drugging or screwing around on his wife. Like someone. And Mick Foley is one of the most beloved people by his fans and peers. Nothing but class. And Hogan is what he has always been.
He's probably also jealous because Mick didn't need to live in a gym to get to the top, which Hogan did. If Hogan had Mick's exact physique, he never would have made it in the business, because his in-ring work wasn't nearly good enough. Hogan doesn't workout because he wants to, but because he has to.
@@jeremyc9593 True, and Mick was over and sold millions and millions of books, shirts, and PPVs without ever getting a huge winning push. Mick won the rare match as an underdog, and was still in the WWE current day Mount Rushmore at his height. Mick was up there with The Rock, Stone Cold, Vince, HHH, The Undertaker and HBK without being pushed like any of those guys as a constant winner. Mick was a crowd favorite at the top of the card with A LOSING RECORD. His promos and personality were so good, he was at the top of the card without ever getting a long term winning streak to push him there.
@@BishopWalters12 You'd think Hogan wouldn't have to be jealous of anyone. But Hogan takes a lot of things personally, and has had some very tough failures with the breakup of his family, what happened with his son, other humiliations and accusations of cheating and racism. Mick Foley is the guy who went back to the hotel, read a book, went home to his wife and kids, and they all love him and are still around. Foley invested his money and is happily retired without having to come out of retirement 500x to pay off ex-wives and lawsuits. Hogan is a competitive guy... and it's gotta sting that someone he views as a tub of lard is also a WWE hall of famer and probably still has more money than Hogan and Flair put together because of being smart with it.
@@RealYRM None of us know who out of Ric, Hogan or Mick have the most in the bank account but Mick isn't on anyone's Mount Rushmore. Hogan and Flair are right about Mick.
Mick Foley is one of the best success stories in WWE and all of wrestling. He did it all without compromising his integrity or his love for the business. Hogan is less than half the man that Foley is.
this hulk interview was 25 years old and Mick has admitted he didnt treat his body with respect and paid a price, but he doesn't regret it one bit he was able to live his dream, have the same interview with Hulk today and it will be worded way differently
See that's the most sensible comment here. This was over 2 decades ago when they were having the Monday night wars. They were different guys back then and it was a different perspective. Regardless of what Hulk said, and as often as he was full of crap, you can't hold that against him today
Mic was like the rest of us, that’s why he was loved and relatable. It’s hard relate to someone that was at least 6 foot 5 and on the juice and used racial slurs but when he showed up he wanted us to cheer for him. No thanks, brother.
Foley held the same belt as Hogan, granted not nearly as long. Hogan could say the same thing about dozens of wrestlers. But as Vince used to say, you make your money with your face. They both came from slightly different eras. I doubt Hulk would trash guys King Kong Bundy and Earthquake. Hulk needed those guys to get where he got. Honestly, he'd probably look at it differently, if he just thought about more. Both guys were pioneers.
They've worked their bullshit out. Hogan is a different guy than he was back in 02, seems like he has found some peace in his life. The internet just loves to shit on Hulk any chance they get. Sure, Hogan shouldn't have said that stuff about Foley, it was true, but a pro wouldve gone a different direction. Everybody says stupid and hurtful shit from time to time, the fact that theyve had conversations and made it a point to move forward is all anyone should care about.
The show was “Off the Record w/ Michael Landsberg” dudes a Canadian broadcasting legend. He’s had some funny sparring sessions with CM Punk and Chael Sonnen. But he’s had a ton of legends on - Scott Hall included!
I love that the Wrestling Community was essentially unanimous, in defending Mick Foley. I know Mick feels like he’s only remembered for Hell in the Cell, but he’s definitely one of the most loved performers of all time.
It’s the “Stiff One of the Week”, Sean shows Kevin shoot interview clips that were “stiff” & get Kev’s reaction. The first few were all wrestlers that took shots at Kev, then they expanded it out.
Taker, Kane, Foley, Sting coolest gimmicks, there were a lot of fun wrestling gimmicks but those 4 are just ultra legends Bray Wyatt was on his way, I never understood why he took so much shit, he was fun as hell in creative compared to pretty much everyone else these days.
If anything the extra padding from the cheeseburgers and M&Ms probably helped him survive these crazy car crash bumps, its not like Mick had no muscle mass either, he had a bit of both which is ideal to survive physical trauma. I doubt someone built like Hogan would have kept wrestling after the Hell In A Cell bumps.
Difference there is Hogan never would have taken those bumps. His work style was completely different. Where as Mick's was hardcore spots and death matches because Cactus jack slash mankind was booked as a crazy guy that would do anything to himself and opponent to win. If you were to watch every hogan match ever, I doubt he ever climbed the ropes once to do a high spot. Big guys like him never did especially in the 80s. And he didn't need to. Same with Nash. They worked the style that best fit their gimmick and size. And mick did the same thing. But he is paying for it. Just like Hogan is from falling on his ass for 30 years doing that leg drop over and over compressing his spine.
Mick and Hulk are both Wrestlers, the difference was Mick was for Hardcore while Hulk was the muscle bound Babyface. Mick didn't really have to look like an Adonis to break a flaming table which he did with ease. Hulk should respect him for making the crowd happy.
Foley was a great wrestler and an incredibly likeable person. People would go crazy on his come backs in matches after the beatings he took - its an age old story.
Foley is everything Hogan should wish he was. Hogan is a pos though, and doesn’t care about his peers’ respect, and thinks he’s the best wrestler to ever exist.
Mick foley creatively was insane his characters were so complex compared to the majority of wrestlers who seem 1 dimensional. It is was also insane the bumps he took so the fans could be entertained if is often talked about but he was thrown of the top of a cage he was thrown through a cage to the wrestling floor. That is just insane it is bravery and creativity which allowed him to have legendary moments against the undertaker. For hulk hogan to dismiss him like that is outrageous especially considering the rumours surrounding his use of steroids.
As a pro wrestler, it’s your job to have some sort of visual appeal. I am way past my prime, have not touched a heavy weight in years and look infinitely better than Mick Foley. Hulk Hogan is speaking truths and the internet nerds are salty.
Facts. In Hogan's hero it was about protecting yourself and entertaining the fans are protecting the guys you worked with. Nowadays a lot of guys are having deathmatches and being tossed off of objects and risking their lives for a cheap buck just so that they can be the next Mick Foley or Jeff Hardy or former ECW wrestler.
Very true, the funny thing is that these Mick fanboys are forgetting that Mick says that he regrets his lifestyle and not taking care of himself because he's paying for it now.
Off the Record with Landsberg was, in a way, KC before it existed. Michael was one of the sportscasters who gave time to the boys and actually interviewed them seriously.
Hulk may have technically been an active wrestler for a longer period of time than Mick. But I guarantee Mick wrestled more matches. Not to mention even with Hulk being physically in better shape than Mick, Hulk only had like 3 or 4 moves and every single match was exactly the same. Mick did so much more in the ring than Hulk could ever dream of.
i don't think hogan worked fewer matches. hogan lived during the height of the 350 days on the road era. mick came in towards the end of the road warrior (pun not intended) days. but still mick gave his body for the business. no one, not even hulk, has probably given as much of their physical being to this business as mick foley. hogan needs to know when to be more diplomatic and not attack one of the nicest guys in teh business
No way in hell Foley wrestled more matches in his career then Hogan Hogan wrestled significantly longer and with a heavier schedule in Florida, Minnesota and New York When he was in New York he wrestled multiple times on the house shows each night finishing with the maine event Reading all of Foley's books his indy schedule never came close to that
@@shooter86-uw8ce in Minnesota they worked less than any other territory in the world and usually worked 3-4 days a week for most of the year. That's why everyone went there. They made comparable to WWF money and worked way less and flew a lot of the time and did mainly big cities.
Hogan wrestled way more matches than Foley. Foley rarely wrestled more than c a couple of times a week and Hogan was wrestling almost every day in the 80s'.
Mick wasn’t good on mic then hogan never compare a mic person and a person who could put on a show which Foley did better but mic skills is not compared to hulk since mic skills got hulk hogan famous it was different era hulk was in the era where you have to promote yourself to get auidence especially in the 70s n 80s
You can’t compare eras lad hulk was from the 80s where things were different compared to 97 where attitude era started mick was below top stars of that era
Hogan and Flair are old school wrestlers who just didn't get the ECW style wrestling. And as much as I like Mick. The older I get the more I can understand where they were coming from.
No way, sir. Wrestling is supposed to be a show, but it's actually good to take stupid bumps and end your own career only months after finally getting over.
Mick did work out. Not as much as some, sure. But I've heard him talk about it, and how no matter how he had tried he didn't get good results. Genetics. What Hulk almost hit on, which is correct, is that the workouts and subsequent fitness will make you less susceptible to injury and shorten recovery time.
Sheeit... 25-30-35 years ago, you couldn't help but think to yourself "Man that guy is going to be feeling that 20-30+ years from now!" just about every time you watched a Mick Foley match. Thank you, Mick Foley, for the sacrifices and the abuse to your body that you suffered to entertain us! But I do have to wonder if it was truly worth it to Mick?
I think Conrad is building a last match with hulk and is going to do a hell of a back story to make it as good or better than the flair / Lethal angle. That was a work... not a shoot... Hulk is blurring the lines....
That's a really old interview. Back in the day yeah hogan and flair had issues with mick because he was drawing off of extreme stunts that were setting expectations for fans so high in regards to violence in matches. Flair and hogan could get reactions without these extreme stunts but might've been afraid that fans would carry these expectations into their matches. Now we know there's room for both but I can see where hogan was coming from in this time.
True, guys like Hogan,flair & rock could get the biggest pops of the night with a single look or pose while mick as much as I respect him he had to kill himself to get that same reaction which ultimately gave birth to all that backyard trash we saw in the 90s & 00s.
I actually did laugh out loud when Hogan claimed that he was in the gym training at night while other guys went out partying. As if there wouldn't be dozens of guys he traveled with over the years who can dispute that. He's exactly like Donald Trump in the fact that he tells obvious lies when there's no reason to do so, just because he can't stop trying to glorify himself.
In the King of the dead matches tournament in 1995 mick had 3 matches in one night .he was hurt in all 3 matches and beat the great terry funk and became the king of the dead matches
Mick should be buried. He's a really nice guy, but he did untold damage and in any other alternate reality we all watch him die. I liked him, but can't watch most of it back.
Hogan ain't wrong. Foley put himself in precarious situations for fame, money and probably some fetish. Now, he cannot walk and had to retire early. If he was in shape while doing those stunts, he might not be so bad off. As much as people say Foley was the smartest man in wrestling, he didn't have much foresight.
Your comment makes no sense. “Mick Foley can wrestling circles around hogan” try reading your comments out loud, and check if there any red dots under any words before you press send. It only takes a moment to read and run a spell check and you will come across lees foolish.
@@bdot187um hogan never compared with mick foleys in ring ability ever! All hogan ever did was go in the ring rip his goofy shirt get beat up do the thing where he acts suddenly invulnerable to pain do the finger wave punch punch punch send opponent to the rope big boot Leg drop hogan wins every single stupid match Not even close every hulk hogan match was predictable while every mick foley match was the complete opposite of predictable Mick foley literally changed wrestling Whether for better or worst is a matter of opinion And since my opinion matters and urs doesnt then its for the better My word is law the defense rests sir No further questions
Hulk Hogan saying Elvis Presley was a fan of his, even though Elvis died in 1977, before there even was a Hulk Hogan (not even sure if Sterling Golden had just started wresting in '77), perfectly encompasses the mixture of self-importance and delusion that apparently is the reality of Hogan's mind.
It's funny, how people can take things so differently. From this clip, I didn't hear Hogan say anything out of line. Hogan is free to believe what he wants. He does probably train more than Mick and certainly wasn't willing to risk his body in the way Mick was. Are those reasons why Hogan (allegedly) aged better? Likely. If not, Hogan is simply mistaken. But he wasn't out of line or anything.
I didn't hear Hogan say anything about Foley taking more physical risks with his body. All i heard Hogan say is that he aged better because he hit the gym consistently and didn't eat bad foods while Mick did the opposite. To say that is the reason is ridiculous. Everyone knows it has zero to do with Mick not working out or eating bad food and all about the physical punishment he was willing to take.
No it doesn't. The harder your body is, the less damage it can take. It's simple physics. Mick had the perfect body for wrestling and absorbing the punishment it takes.
However, taking as many steroids as Hulk did doesn't help. That's something Hulk didn't mention. Yes, maybe he worked out a lot, but that's in combination with a cocktail of steroids.
Not for nothing, bu Hogan trains and keeps his body as fit as he can while being a pro wrestler. Mick Foley, didn't train, and trashed his body. Hogan has a good point and It's just a fact. Foley was famous for breaking all his bones. Not for keeping in shape.
Mick married a legitimate smokeshow model so I mean he was definitely a good looking guy back in the day. Nash is right, some guys were just gym guys. For someone like Foley it never stopped him becoming a wrestling legend and making a good but of money along the way.
I remembered years ago when i was a kid, and when Mick Foley won the title on Raw, it was not known much on the west coast because the internet back then was crap. Until I got a call from my cousin in the east coast saying that Foley won the belt which I thought first was a joke. There's a delay on the west coast broadcast and you could read it on Napster or some chat board. WWE really wanted to stick it to Nitro, and the talk of Foley winning was psy ops marketing winning strategy from Vince.
Theres been plenty of controversy around hulk and none around mick. Mick is a hardcore legend, and theres nothing hulk can say that will take any of that away.
Foley was a different kind of wrestler than anyone else in the business. His style and the types of matches he did were different. Never saw Hogan doing those Hell In A Cell matches. Getting tossed off the top to through a table to the floor. But I'm sure Foley did some kind of training when he was getting ready for each of his big matches.
