This a lie like shit & I wish people would stop saying it... Rich mfs cut women off or end up losing them all the time. Once emotions & feelings get involved you buying her a Birkin or simply having bread won't save the situation.... Some women feel entitlement when it comes to who they fw & become selfish. Like why you spending so much time in the studio/at work? I cooked xyz for you & you didn't even eat cuz oh were focused on your purpose... Then eventually she will leave because while the validation chase is enticing to her at first, she will find someone eventually who gives her that freely. She'll move on from him too.. But you not finna keep the same women around if you focused.
@@ralomottz well, chasing them wont get you better results in regards to attraction or finances. Neither way if full proof but you have less to lose with one vs the other
Why is kay even on the show. She too emotional and if she didn’t say she was 34 years old I would think she was in high school the way she be acting. I definitely couldn’t take anybody like that
“Anybody ever tried to walk a cat???” Bruh I swear I’ve always known this and I never actually brought it to the surface until Kevin mentioned it. I’m CRYING 😂😂😂😂😂 you just let the cat outside and HOPE IT COMES BACK
I live in a townhouse. My neighbor walks his cat 3 times a day and my other neighbor her cat is names Ghost and Cecil. I know because i have a pup who plays with her cats. Her cats come into my back yard and sit at my backdoor until i let them in . Both Ghost and Cecil like the play with the other cats in the complex. The guy who walks his cat put food out for the other 4 cats in our complex he even provides shelter them when its extremely cold or wet because his cwt actually spends like half the day outside playing with the other cats. The cat will sit at his house window or back door when hes ready to go inside . I put milk, water, and snacks out for the cat. Funny thing is . We treat the cats well and all the cats love us and the children, so yes they come back.
My sister walks her cat on a leash. I thought she was kidding until I saw it myself. Now that she has 2 cats, she’s looking for a baby buggy to take them on her walks or runs. Bless.😸
The wife got mad at me for eating and entire 7-Up pound cake over the course of a week. She didn't get any. So, the next time I went out, I got her one of her own, all to herself. It sat there, unopened, for two weeks before I realized it. She didn't touch it. Understand that?!! Naw, I'm good.
@@beans9499 if the cake was there a week how is that not thinking about if you wanted some. Why make things difficult for no reason at all. My girl do that dumb shit too. I'll buy something, and it'll sit in the fridge for 3-4 days, then I'll consume it, and she gets mad like why did you eat/drink it, i was going to have it when i wanted it. Lol y'all sound slow as hell.
@@TMassChronicles LOL - I take it the Chef is not a Geek, tell me will we be as "impressed" with your cooking at least. It is not that people are overly impressed which is a strange assumption on your part but the fact that they can relate with something they connect with and appreciate. Yet you jumped in and attacked straight like a female, but then some men are like that too - LOL.
As a man, understanding how women operate and how sometimes they dont understand themselves...is a useful tool. Any man who's out in the dating world should understand women and their nature to some degree..otherwise he is food out here.
Understanding women is a spectrum, you can never totally understand em all, but you should definitely strive to up your game about women's nature to navigate relationships. Thats what i mean. Just completely ignoring learning about them is a recipe for disaster for any man out here dating
Kay is the type of woman who lives in her emotions and never logically. If closed-minded, unaccountable, toxic, wants to be right even if I embarrass myself was person its Ms. Kay😂
The look on Kay's face while Kev was talking is all we need to know....just waiting to react vs listening to learn. Fellaz...leave these types ALONE 🥱💯
Bro look at everyone else, then look at Kay while Kev talking 🤣 Aside from Lapeef who's running the show. She remind me of the one girl with the big eyes 👀 on one of Kev recent broadcast.
That lady proved exactly what Kevin Samuel's said. Nature is unchanged. Her non verbal reactions....the deflecting...not taking accountability for being called out on not liking what he had to say...all right there
I just want to say, I really appreciate Courtney in these conversations. Just as a man, to hear a woman speak who is really in touch with her femininity is so refreshing and restorative even. Like she's balanced, composed, she listens, she's understanding, soft, gentle, and genuine. It's really something
She is simply not old enough to know that she is not old enough to have a strong opinion about something she knows so little about. The arrogance of ignorance is a spectacular thing.
She was talking in circles, but I understood her point. Her point that she couldn't articulate was men & women should learn to understand each other if it's a personal relationship to be on the same page. However, Kevin & the others were talking about the "nature" of women & she wasn't understanding the topic, question, nor conversation.
...she is insecure...she is trying to mask it ..by being verbose...and trying to stall answering very simple questions......but she knows to at least keep quiet in the presence of a superior mind.... she did NOT want to be examined by Kevin.....but she is uncomfortable the whole time Kevin was talking...when confronted about it afterwards...she said she didnt want to be assigned a label....when everyone could see she was ambivalent about what Kevin was saying....even the timbre of her voice betrays her....i feel sorry for her...and those men on the panel are being very gracious with her...they know it...she does too...
How so? A lot of what she said made perfect sense. Perhaps it wasn’t always agreeable information but her theories weren’t without thoughtfulness. I’m struggling to figure out why certain members of the panel as well as this comment section was so hard on this sister. It was ridiculous.
nphillyk , whenever she spoke, I was reminded of a response that Trey Gowdy gave one time, when he was still a congressman. He said, "That was an absolutely marvelous answer to a question that nobody asked." The men constantly had to redirect her and restate the question, and she kept going in circles, knowing that she understood full well what they were asking in the first place. She just wanted to fight. And she had her mind made up to only listen to what she was hearing in her head, the things that she had already decided beforehand that the rest of the panel was guilty of thinking and saying.
@@mommyneedswine it’s always long period of just explaining things to her. She comes in with a everything is subjective mindset and it’s not conducive to further the conversation. It puts the conversations at standstills that only exist due a lack of a genuine argument from the opposition.
@@sae4493 everyone on the panel has a subjective mindset, ESPECIALLY Kevin. It’s called an opinion. Kevin comes into the conversation JUST to prove his opinion, not to learn, understand or have real dialogue- that’s why he cuts people off all the time. He listens to respond. That by itself shows just as much of a lack in a genuine argument
@@mommyneedswine he weaves through the bullshit. Women tend to give long drawn out rambles that deflect, redirect or have nothing to do with the main points. Kevin just needs the details, while most of these women can’t help but get totally off track with rambling. Trying to get through to these chicks is damn near impossible, most of them still have no clue after being schooled to reality.
I don't need my husband to understand everything I think, feel or say but I do need him to care. That's the difference. My children may have feelings I don't understand but I would be an inept mother if I didn't acknowledge my concern and care for them. You cannot expect the respect of one you ignore, ridicule, or dismiss.
Kay - "Everyone's not the same" This is the ultimate revealer - 'I don't have an argument and I can conveniently use this statement whenever I'm cornered with the facts'.
KS straight choke slamming mics into the ground on today's videos!!! Anytime you can leave an entire panel speechless for even a second...you dropped bars!!!
It seems that some people didn’t get Kevin’s example... I’ll give my interpretation. I believe he made two critical points. 1. The understanding the nature of women over all is more important than understanding the specific female one is engaged with. It is the difference between a strategic perspective and a tactical one. The difference between a war (strategic) and a battle (tactical). To understand women’s nature is to understand the war and to understand a community of females or individual is to understand a battle. 2. The necessity of understanding the other sex weighs heavily on the female due to their inability to survive independently from their male counterparts. Basically, a tribe of only men would survive just fine without any women around but they wouldn’t reproduce. Alternatively, a tribe of only women in an equal setting would likely not meet the same standards of survival in nature. To highlight the point further: just imagine a bear came to attack both tribes respectively, one for the males and the others for the females. Given the reactions of the males and the females in your imagination, which group would fair better? Perhaps a storm visits both camps. Which among the groups resists best the tantrums of nature? That’s my interpretation of what Mr. Samules meant. I hope this helps.
I'll never stop appreciating Kevin's deep knowledge and appreciation of classic literature and how much it applies to life. Any time he shouts out The Iliad or Gilgamesh, the nerd in me cheers.
It's crazy cause everything Kevin just said said about (if we try figure women out, than platforms, societies, & or worlds would collapse) & Kay acted out that role after Kevin just broke it down, & Chicago Rilla was like"smh, Kay at that ish again right after Kevin just layed out the breakdown" she wants to be understood over nothing & wants equality. Even Courtney felt emberrased by Kay's actions, words, & stand point,... just can't argue with "hard headed women"
@@TeenaDavis101 I agree that a good cry is cleansing, but I don't recall a time I was crying and couldn't say why. Is that something you have experienced?
Exactly Patricia! If you’re a woman, and you find yourself crying out of the blue, for no reason? You definitely need to see a therapist or even be on some kind of medication! Seriously! Courtney just tries to appease to the male members of the panel instead of just being genuine and real! So silly!
Difference between the two women in the room: Courtney pays attention to the comments on the panel ... Kay pays attention to the comments in the chat room.
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !* _Tappin' in from South Central LA_ Salute to the Godfather ✊🏾 Facts over feelings ! Women wouldn't put 1% of the effort of trying to understand men that men spend trying to understand women. 8:18 Rest easy KS 🙏🏾 You are appreciated. 🤜🏾💥🤛🏾
That line by Jack Nicholson that Kevin was referring to was from the movie “As Good as it Gets” .....Classic!!! One of my all time favorite movies!!! 🔥🔥🔥
If a cat moves close to your face, you don't know if it's gonna rub it's nose against you or scratch you... The energy is the same and that's some shit that is of the devil.
@@boostedhatch3 ...she was very passive aggressive...and when called out on it she got defensive...i actually used to say that people like her shouldnt be on platforms like this....now i applaud it...because she has a chance to explain how she thinks and feels...or not...and others can do the same....or not...about anyone...on any topic...its not an echo chamber...and it also shows courage of convictions...if they have any...i noticed whenever a few of them got uncomfortable they distracted themselves by doing things instead of listening intently...her openly laughing...and then saying oh...i was looking at the comments..that was disrespectful....she should leave the chat...but we wouldnt have learned something about her...give her enough rope...she will hang herself...i feel rather sorry for her...she is insecure...
Excellent answer from Kevin and as a person who studies behavioral psychology I would agree. Studying peoples nature gives you a better depiction to understanding one’s behavior or characteristics of that behavior. There are behavioral traits that are synonymous among all groups within the species however what’s interesting about humans is depending on what stimuli and internal and external influences their nature can be deviated. While there will always be many factors in one’s behavior that may alter or change from their nature, there are usually always a causal root at the center of that change.
@@ToyManFlyer1100 You really believe people kill for no reason? Or perhaps you just don't know/understand the reason. Because there's always a reason or at least an explanation.
So if you understand women's nature...that's a level of understanding women, which we do need to do as men so Kevin is arguing semantics and is ultimately agreeing that we need to have an understanding of women.
A man definitely needs to understand the nature of a woman. That is a must. But I do think that a man should understand a little about the woman he is in a relationship with. It helps with communication and reaching the objective.
Or maybe because she decided to reside in a woman's place and observe how men move is the reason why she's able to have power and meaning to her words. Masculine cheat codes, LOL! I feel you Brother!
I don’t see why people dislike Kay so much. Stop acting like she doesn’t have legit responses. These men alive Courtney because she’s a yes man! If I agree with everything someone has to say don’t you think that person would love me too. She’s not married yet!
You don’t like it, you don’t have to watch. She chose to join the panel. Kay likes to go off topic and branch the conversation off into some awkward direction. I’ve watched a few panel discussions involving her, and she doesn’t give concise answers, she rambles on irrelevant ideas and assumptions, and she literally dilutes the conversation and causes a break in focus from the topic at hand. Disagreeing is fine, but don’t try to combat the conversation without anything factual or related directly to the topic, solely because you want to disagree. Don’t bring checkers to a chess match.
We dislike her for the same old reason that BW keep right on dismissing and deflecting (if not defending): her _disrespectful, entitled and combative attitude_ . It spills out of her in every way. She is the kind of woman I love to see walking in any direction EXCEPT toward me!
We love Courtney because she showed manners, appreciation, and RESPECT. She could disagree, rolling the way she was, and we would all be cool with it. We all KNOW that if she did disagree, there would be no condescension, no combat, no manipulation.
Why didn’t he ask dude on the bottom left the same question he asked Kay? He said as a father and a person In a long term relationship, he doesn’t see why men shouldn’t have to learn women to some degree. He got no push back, nor was he asked to generalize It,, but Kay was. What’s the difference?
@@shashanmcglover7934 this what happens when you have majority likeminded people In their echo chamber, and then they allow KS to come In and dominate the conversation because he has more “experience”. Then they’re all like “ooh he’s a great man” cuz he’s quoting philosophers and shit lol how they know how great of a man he Is?
Thank you sir! 🙏🏾 This is the exact reason why Kay keeps quiet. Because no matter what she says, not only will they not agree, but they will attack her.
Kay Aye is one of those people that graduated from university and thinks that her diploma means that she is actually intelligent when she really isn’t.
I think Kay is making a point, if you want your marriage to survive, you need to understand your spouse whether you are low value or high value men. This men don’t have to understand women thing is not going to help anyone.
I notice Kevin set a lot of these men up for failure with some stuff that comes out of his mouth. Anyone you’re pursuing long term... you do need to understand and study them. If not you’re gonna end up marry someone you’re not even compatible with. All because you thought you didn’t have to “understand” them.. but then again.... he was divorced twice
Upwards of 70 to 80 % of all divorces are filed by women. Apparently a majority of women simply changed their mind about being married one day and filed for divorce, correct? On that note - what is / are the benefits for a man in today's western society to be married?
@@raycebannon6374 I agree. Even though I do not live in the west, I am aware that the state’s involvement in this matter is unhelpful and possibly bias against men. Women end up winning all the time at the expense of men and although women’s rights should be protected at all times, men should have equal rights when it comes to divorce settlements.
I stumbled on that video, the conversions are greatly appreciated. I don't know anybody in here, but just listening to kay. I feel like a woman like that will drain my spirit down. she is so confrontational. On the other hand, that other lady Courtney I feel like this is someone I can enjoy being around.
So, on the one hand, men have always understood the nature of women, but men don’t *need* to understand women (?) Does anyone else see this glaring contradiction? Of course men need to understand women-we just don’t need to spend time trying to change them.
I love hearing Kevin saying one of my favorite quotes I comment on his videos as it made summed it all up every time, 'I think of a man,and I take away reason and accountablity'.. my man
Kay obviously didn’t like what KS said, she wanted Anton to ask if she did so she can initially lie and then continue talking to prove that his assumption was correct. Just a whole merry-go-round of stupid.
You got to "try" your best to understand each other or it can bite you in the end. If he or she feels ego bruised or vengeful, and if you don't pick up on those vibes or choose not to, there's going to be a loss/ price to pay later on.
If you lack an understanding of a specific individual but understand human nature it’s likely you’ll be fine. Human nature doesn’t change but individuals do. Think of it like an understanding of a strategy to achieve something vs a tactic. The strategic perspective is fluid enough to always work whereas the tactical one only applies to specific scenarios. That’s the nature understanding vs the specific understanding.
@@ComfortKM I agree with you when talking about the general case, but there always a chance on trying to read someone that doesn't operate in the general case.
@@tadiwadzino8225 he does the same thing. The only difference sis be would cut her off more and she wouldn’t be able to finish her points just so he can control the conversation
This show reminds me of The View. It is loaded with people with one position and they gang up against the one that doesn't agree. I generally agree with Kevin but Kay made valid points during the entire broadcast.
When it comes to men and women Kevin is usually wrong. He's usually right when he talks about the state of black Americans though and he was wrong here.
All I can say is I have talked to alot of successfull great men and they dont agree with KS. That alone gives me peace. For the record men can be just as emotional and sensitive as women. We as a society at whole should try to respect each other. Trying to understand anyone can drive you crazy. REAL TALK!!
You know it's not because you're succesful professionally and on a socioecomic level that you're good when it comes to deal with women and relationships either.
Kay has excellent points. Just bc Kevin says something & the rest of the panel follows his lead doesn’t mean her perspectives are invalid. Just bc they don’t agree doesn’t mean she’s wrong. They seem to use their numbers against her but her ability to go against the grain & courage to take a different path is courageous & refreshing.
A strong emotion from within wanted to scream AMEN! only if some men could articulate themselves like Kevin and speak their minds, the world would be a better place.. God Bless KS..
“I think Courtney said a lot when she said sometimes she doesn’t understand herself because of being emotional that’s all women so why would a man even try that’s not our job it’s like Kev said women will die without us so women just need to fall in line and they might be alright”💯
If the question is, "do men need to understand women," the answer is clearly no. It is not a need. A bonus, a privilege, an advantage, yes. A need, not even close.
It definitely have to be some understanding between the two to make it work long term. To say one don't need to understand other can be problem that may cause an end the relationship. ( very problematic) I agree with Kay Aye and C, I was a ruthless mf who did not care and I was 100% wrong in my past relationships.
Kay is the void of truth and humility. She will never admit that she doesn't know what she is talking about like most bw. They will rather be wrong and look stupid than humble themselves and take accountability.
Why do black men consistently generalize black women?? Like what did we do to deserve this🤷🏽♀️ If black men already have preconceived notions about black women, it’s clear why it’s difficult to have successful relationships with each other. So sad and disheartening
I hope Miss Kay looks back at her episode to review n revise for growth. I know comments been killin her for her attitude esp towards the Godfather but let's give her some grace. People shutdown n take everything literal n get too woke instead of keeping it "in general" when they have nothing to backup their arguments! Honeychiiiiile....
When accountability is afforded there is always someone making excuses on behalf of a woman. No mama, she’s a 30 year old woman, she doesn’t get grace for being ignorant, only ridicule.
@@nubienatty No, sorry Ma’am. Good intentions don’t always produce good outcomes. And im’ma check you right now, wdym it’s our fault? if you ain’t our seed or if we ain’t putting our seed in you, you ain’t our problem.
Right exactly Kevin. Once you understand a woman’s nature no matter how good or bad they are you can never go wrong because you understand that they are made to be lead, guided & dominated into doing the right things for themselves in life we are just natural born leaders as men the end ✅✅✅.
Woman in the top right was older, which is why she understood Kevin. Woman in the bottom right was younger, and doesn't know shit. She should have taken her cue from the wiser woman on the panel. But pride go before the fall.
These episodes with the Godfather is like VladTV now. How many parts are there 💀💀 Kay with those 5 year old facial expressions here we go 😵💫😵💫 What Hollywood movie is Kay talking about where we should understand each other? Women should be a compliment to your life, NOT the main focus!
What was Kat saying in circles ⭕️? It depends, oh romantic hypothetically?if we running a non-profit? It depends on what is being conveyed? Huh? Then she gets defensive? Whooosah 🧘♀️
I understood her points. I think situationally it does matter. Everyone saying she got defensive because they judged her face not her words and started tripping. They got emotional too but of course everyone blaming her because she had the opposing views.
I am trying hard to understand why it was important or necessary for them to treat Kay the way they did. Was she argumentative at times? Yes Was she a bit condescending with regards to the way she approached some of the debate topics? Yes But overall, I don’t get why they felt the need to attack her and paint her as some overly emotional person incapable of rational thought. That was very troubling. smh
STFU! Being argumentative AND condescending during a discussion are not appropriate and lowers the quality of the discussion. That hoe deserved to be checked.
New to the show only 7 segments in, I love the content. It’s much needed. Kay has a difficult time giving a straight answer, it’s troubling to watch. So combative and soft.
Here’s what’s really going on today. Maybe 30 years ago men had to court women. When I was a teen through my early 20’s you had to really prove to a woman that you were into her to get her attention, sex, love etc. To accomplish that you had to know women down to a science. Fast forward to today and women are freely giving attention and doing any and everything to get attention. Men have literally become the prize in a sense. Men post selfie’s, pics of how they look in their outfits etc. So now women are in a position where they never had a real need to understand men because men were doing the pursuing but now that men have kind of become the catch or things are simply neutral where men and women meet one another halfway women are lost. Women in general know nothing about men which leaves them vulnerable to every trick in the book.
"Kay, Men don't Have to understand women what are your thoughts?" Kay- "well it depends" lmao That response tells a man exactly why we don't need to understand them. She immediately took a direct question and tried to scramble the idea with different situations to fit a narrative that makes her feel good. lmao Kay's gonna be alone or with a guy that lets his momma run his house from her house
“In the same way, you husbands must give honor to your wives. Treat your wife with understanding as you live together. She may be weaker than you are, but she is your equal partner in God’s gift of new life. Treat her as you should so your prayers will not be hindered.” 1 Peter 3:7 NLT
@Kriss Perry A women who understand her nature is not trying to be equal to a man. I know my power comes from what a man does not have which is a womb and what he can’t do give birth and everything that comes with that.I respect a man’s strength and nature and leadership. But to be in a Romantic relationship with someone you have to have an understanding of the person uniqueness in order to build polarity in your relationship.
@@lightsalt581 You said some important things here...Maybe ROMANCE itself is the problem...Which is constantly rehashed by men. Different women want different things to have the same outcome. It's simply UNREASONABLE. Men work better with POLICY. I dont have to be bound by understanding you to treat you good: you could simply tell me what you want/need, which requires HONESTY and PRACTICALITY. A reasonable conversation CAN come from that, which would save all types of trouble. Women almost seem to WANT a grind...
@@TheRealAnswer23 How do you treat someone good if you do not care to understand what makes them happy in a relationship? How do you meet each other’s needs without understanding? I don’t get it.
@@lightsalt581 If I am to supply all of your needs...and I ASK YOU what you need...Should you be telling me anything other than the plain and simple truth? There's nothing to understand about COMING THROUGH and MEETING SOMEONE'S NEEDS. If you're being honest and responsible to one another, there's NOTHING to understand. You'll either DO IT or NOT.
@@lightsalt581 The "understanding" is that you're being given AMPLE opportunity to set the table: ____ IS WHAT I NEED. _____ IS WHAT I WANT. ______ IS WHAT I WILL DO THAT YOU ASKED. ______IS WHAT I WILL NOT DO THAT YOU MAY DESIRE. Then we can PLAINLY see that this WILL or WILL NOT work.
Understanding a woman's nature is understanding women. If you don't understand the nature of a snake or lion you will make mistakes and eventually let it go to someone who does understand 💕
A few thoughts 🤔. It would be nice to see them add temperament, MBTI, and other subtle variants of type. What is funny is that when a woman is logical they call her masculine. When a man is empathetic they call him feminine yet we have both characteristics innately. Women tend to read men a little better not only because they need them but they also have to survive them. Kay makes a great point about them projecting their feelings onto her. It makes the men look more emotional than she is, yet they are quick to call her emotional.
