My hero. I heard this when it was released & I've revisited it every few months for years now. Nothing brings my heart joy more than "Don't worry about it Batman, I got it over here OHHHHHH!"
Man, i wish kevin and ralph would turn their podcast into just talking like this and drop every tired recurring bit on babble on. I loved this conversation.
Absolutely man. When Kev sits down on a podcast and talks nerd culture, it's great. When he's in front of an audience, it feels like he's trying to sell you something.
Ralph is right Bruce becomes Batman because his parents were killed in front of him….he takes eight years off for a girl that wasn’t his girlfriend great movie but wow
Batman stopped being batman because there wasn't any crime happening in Gotham. Dent Act put an end to major crimes. There's even a line regarding this when Gordon says something to Blake when he informs him of senator missing. And as soon as Bane is there in stock market Batman comes right away. So their point has no value.
@@savvydev Batman does not and will not quit, I’ll give you the whole he got his back broken I mean he can’t fight crime but Batman will go to the grave fighting because of his commitment to fight crime in his city 8 years off is a hard idea to get behind but the movie will still amazing in every way
Dark Knight Rises was ruined by the twist. All other problems with the movie could have been looked past if not for the godawful twist which derailed the main villain COMPLETELY and replaced him with a character that was only in the movie a little bit and then dies in the most dull manner possible (they actually both die that way, as being shot by the bat bike is also extremely anticlimactic, maybe not as bad as just dying after crashing a car though…). I didn’t like the big gap in time with him not being Batman either. I know they wanted to do a Dark Knight Returns story, but it just felt jarring and isn’t at all what I wanted after The Dark Knight ended.
And this is why Kevin should bring back Fatman on Batman and rename the other show SmodNews or something like that but bring back the true Fatman show even though kev isnt Fatman anymore.
Agreed. I miss this format for the show. It used to be a must listen. I think, back in the day, I got into it around episode 10, but I would relisten to it over and over. So so many great interviews, and I loved the commentary tracks too. When they switched to news only, I fell off entirely.
i always got the feeling Nolan (Chris) wasn't totally invested in this one, probably just wanted to get it out of the way, maybe wanted to leave it on the dark knight which ended kind of open ended much like older batman films, not really setting up a sequel the way that batman begins did
I always okay with this movie tbh but wasn't till I felt I hit rock bottom emotionally, mentally and heck even physically. Despite the flaws and of course script rewrites which caused it to have flaws...I liked this movie probably even love it and especially the trilogy.
Never connected with BANE easiest villain to beat if you can take out his mask/venom. Yes; the character is an obvious challenge and has a fun mythos which is undeniable but he was still never one of Bat’s rogues I dug personally. Always know eventually somehow whether due to Bats or a cohort of the dark knights BANE’s mask will be negated, guess that’s why expectations were subverted at the finale and Selina just shoots BANE point blank which I’d argue neuters the character making the ferocity he achieved a “punchline” (pun intended) for Selina and her gifted Bat pod in the 3rd act nothing more. Easily stoppable opponent and Selina proved it.
I look at Batman begins and dark knight as one movie cut in half (like kill bill 1 &2 ) and it’s a masterpiece……and then there’s dark knight rises ….black sheep
Bats taking the fall for Dent was NOT a plot hole. Every cop living except Gordon is corrupt. Dent was hinted at having dirt in his past. If he doesn't die the hero, the gangs would all be freed in 3 months. You can maybe say Joker did it, but Joker never tells the public one single lie other than the "how I got my scars" bit. I think a bigger plot hole is the idea that Joker went quiet for 8 years. I know its because of Ledger, but the real Joker would not ALLOW Batman to take 8 years off. He'd be blowing up an elementary school every day until Batman appeared
Batman stopped being batman because there wasn't any crime happening in Gotham. Dent Act put an end to major crimes. There's even a line regarding this when Gordon says something to Blake when he informs him of senator missing. And as soon as Bane is there in stock market Batman comes right away. So the point that he stopped being Batman because Rachel died has no value. He became recluse because of that. Stopped going out even as Bruce Wayne. But for fighting crime he instantly puts up the suit even when he isn't fully fit.
To be true to the character, at the end he needs to kill Bruce Wayne and be the Batman full time. Bruce Wayne is the mask. Batman is his true character.
The guy saying nothing happened between movies forgot about the scene in Dark Knight where Ramirez asks why Batman hasn't shown up yet. Gordon's response was "hopefully, he's busy!"
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