"There's a lot of veterans in wrestling that crave making younger people feel like morons" - Year later - "I been wrestling a lot more longer than you!" Kevin Steen v John Cena
Jaysin Static I think Kevin Owens meant more like "wrestling longer" as in paying your dues as he did in the indies for years and years and years. Kevin Owens wrestling craft and knowledge is downright UNBELIEVABLE. Just watch some of his movesets on RU-vid. John Cena was automatically accepted into WWE back during his UPW days in 2000. It took Kevin Owens 15 years to get to the WWE. It took Cena none. But I do understand what you are saying though. I highly doubt WWE would mention it though.
I'd counter that statement by saying... while ya Cena got in pretty much right away you can't take anything away in the amount knowledge that can be obtained even starting in the business right away. WWE is at a different level so to speak. I've worked on the indy's for 7 years now i know first hand the knowledge that can be learned working the indys. But also when you take a step into the WWE it's a different kinda machine and certain things need to relearn or learned better. Btw, Im not a hater of Owens and I've followed a lot of his career as i do with a lot of indy guy's hell I've worked on shows with some top guys that are currently making waves in the wwe and elsewhere on top shows like tna and roh! Dues get paid no matter where u get your start at. And also John didn't start out on top it took a few years for that gimmick to hit. Also Believe that the intensity and angle with John is one of the best going in WWE atm if not they best.
Sinciti They did it with cm punk, "cult of personality" was the song that punk used while he was the ROH champion, but I think he's most known in ROH for use the "Miseria Cantare" by AFI
5 years later, Kevin Owens is a huge part of the main event scene, after climbing over Cena. John Cena is now semi--retired. It's been a long time since Cena's been on TV outside of a PPV.
This is how you say goodbye in RoH. In WWE you need to lose your last match against a jobber after being humiliated verbally just in case you show up at another promotion. Hell even Daniel Bryan didn't get to do all this during his farewell speech not just from the WWE but from wrestling alltogether.
The losing your last match is to get someone else over thus helping the business. Imagine if John Cena loses his last match to Sami Zayn, it puts him in a main event status immediately. Hell that effect has happened with AJ Styles.
Probly wont happen but I hope he can bring his song with him,,at first I only liked the percussion in the begining being a drummer the beat is always the best part but after a while that guitar and vocals woar on me,,now I play the longest version I can find online and play it in my stereo,bladting it,,succeed steen,,,succeed!
i still miss this moment and all his good matches with seth rollins (tyler black) and sami zayn (el gerneico) and they also need is a ROH NETWORKS like the WWE NEXTWORK
WeedLovingCat This fat fuck has more talent in his fucking pubic hair than Cena has in his entire body at this point. Cena's strong, yeah. He can cut a good promo, yeah. But quite honestly, he's not that talented, at least his talent doesn't show as much as it used to. Cena was good until be became a fan favorite. Then he kinda just stopped trying, just sits in the ring now, throws a few punches, uses a finisher. Steen works his ass off in that ring, he has a greater repertoire of moves, and really even though he's fat he can still get around rather quickly and efficiently, and can pull off moves I'd never thought a man of his build could pull off until I saw him do them. Kevin Steen is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, and unless WWE'S knack for misusing superstars comes into play, he can be a true legend one of these days. Kill Steen Kill.
WeedLovingCat You said Cena on the comment I was replying to, "This fat fuck will just be food to cena lol". And he has lost a little weight, but that doesn't much matter because he pulls off moves that usually only guys like Van Dam and Jeff Hardy do. He's one of the few men over 260 I've ever seen pull off a moonsault (I did once but I was drunk so it doesn't count lol) so I really don't think weight is an issue for him. And I apologize if I seemed hostile in my last comment, I didn't mean the content in an aggressive way.
Now I look like I've made love to many men!!!! A comedy genius, wrestling has missed a guy like this since the attitude era, best in the business right now
I might be wrong or not but I’m calling it now February 9th 2022 Kevin Steen debuts in AEW either in the Owen Hart tournament or he saves Adam Cole and The Young Bucks from a beatdown.
Looks like WWE is giving him a push but once they go to NXT/New York they're not the same. Damn writers, rules and regulations. RIP the real Kevin Steen
I think they've done a damn good job with him, actually. He's playing about the most complex character I've seen, and he still looks like an absolute badass.
WWE NXT needs to pick up Christopher Daniels, it's obvious for now his time is done with TNA and he was one of the greats of that company. He is one of the founding fathers of the X Division and made great same goes for AJ Styles.
Saibal Republic I hope Chris gets inducted one day by WWE for his contributions to Ring of Honor. Without Chris. None of the wrestlers that were on Ring of Honor would’ve made it as far as they got. I’m happy Chris is head of talent relations for AEW. He really has an eye for talent.
Dude to be honest I believe even he stated this was as well Daniels is on almost 50 yrs old plus Vince has no idea what he is doing at all and it shows
