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Khalil Andani vs. Twelver Takfiri: Are Ismailis Muslims? Muhammad Rafed rejects ruling of Khamenei 

Dr. Khalil Andani: Thinking Islam
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References:
Sayyid Khameini's Rulings on Ismailis - Q. 319: www.leader.ir/en/book/32/Prac...
Sayyid Sistani Fatwa that Ismailis are Muslims: www.shiachat.com/forum/upload...
Ayatullah Tehrani's Ruling on Ismailis: www.islamquest.net/en/archive...
Ayatullah Makarem Shirazi Ruling on Ismailis: makarem.ir/main.aspx?typeinfo...
Sayyid Mohammad al-Musavi on Ismailis being Muslims: www.al-islam.org/ask/topics/3...
Sayyid Mohammad al-Musavi speech that Ismailis are Muslims according to Ayatullah al-Khoei: • Syed Muhammad Moosavi ...

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@abbasibiafo6654
@abbasibiafo6654 5 месяцев назад
Rafed actually doesn't follow Khamenei if he says this about Ismaili Shia. In Iran, the Ismailis are considered Muslims as per the constitution of Iran!
@wasilaadeem
@wasilaadeem 7 месяцев назад
Wonderful work Dr. Khalil! As an Ismaili from Badakhshan, I am so proud of you the work that you are doing. May Mawla bless you.
@JuiceMeUpPlease
@JuiceMeUpPlease 10 месяцев назад
Man thoroughly and tastefully handed Rafed the biggest L in his life. 😂 Excellent work Dr. Andani
@skmcee7863
@skmcee7863 9 месяцев назад
is that why he didn’t upload the full clip where rafed proves that the fatwa isn’t saying what andani said?
@KhalilAndani
@KhalilAndani 9 месяцев назад
Rafed went marja shopping as I predicted he would@@skmcee7863
@skmcee7863
@skmcee7863 9 месяцев назад
@@KhalilAndani great, why didn’t you upload the whole clip?
@KhalilAndani
@KhalilAndani 9 месяцев назад
because my part of the convo was over by then@@skmcee7863
@skmcee7863
@skmcee7863 9 месяцев назад
@@KhalilAndani that’s because you ran away and then didn’t include the part where rafed came back and absolutely buried your quotation of the fatwa. same dishonest tactics you used against jake.
@bestpvpwins9318
@bestpvpwins9318 10 месяцев назад
Need more of this sir! Especially an explanation of Ismaili neoplatonism and Ismaili view on revelation. Plz 🙏 sir
@aliahmedhashwani1607
@aliahmedhashwani1607 10 месяцев назад
Truuuu!! We need more explanation on neoplatonism and esoteric interpretation of revelation in Ismaili philosophy
@nazarsfootballhistory1626
@nazarsfootballhistory1626 10 месяцев назад
Good job professor andani really good answers but unfortunately their hearts are full of hate and they will never accept their wrong ideas
@Jiwanins
@Jiwanins 10 месяцев назад
I been following Khalil Andani for a long time now ! Some of his videos! Are really so informative that even the best of the best Ismaili may not be aware of the things he talk in his videos. Sometimes it feels like except Ismaili - everyone is on wrong path!!
@fariduddin110
@fariduddin110 10 месяцев назад
Another important issue is that imitation is not allowed in religion, the owner of the religion and its commentator and interprtator is only Imam of the time, not the authority of imitation, nor any Ayatollah not anyone else. We, as Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims, are leading by a living and present Imam from the direct descendants of the Prophet through Hazrat Ali (a.s) and Bibi Fatima Zahra (s.a). Now I strongly say that believing in Imamat is one of the main Principal not the type of worship or pray which in Persian called Namaz! The praying is sub-subject & it must be done according to the guidance of Imam of the time as the Real Teacher & Interpretator of Quran. Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) said: Ali is with Qur'an & Qur'an is with Ali. In each time, the Imam of the time is considered as Ali. For example during the Imamat of Hazrat Mawlana Hussain the hadith of Prophet can be like this: Hussain is with Qur'an & Qur'an is with Hussain... and like this it continues... So Alhmadulellah the Shia Imami Ismaili are Muslims & they are not 6 imamis as Ayatullah Sistani doesn't know properly in this specific matter of knowing the lineage of ismaili imamat but they have 49th imam now among themselves. Note: There are different branches of Ismaili throughout history & all the division was because of Who Was The Lawful & Rightful Imam! So we have Ismaili who don't believe any imam after Ismail ibn Jafar-e Sadeq. We have Ismailis who believe after Ismail ibn Jafar-e Sadeq, Muhammad ibn Ismail is the last imam & they called him Mahdi Mawood!! Continuing throughout history at the time of 18th Ismaili Muslims Imama there was another division: 1) Nizari Ismaili Muslims 2) Mustalawiyah Ismaili And continuing like this Till now as mentioned, the only Shia community which lead by a hereditary imam who is directe descendant of Hazrat Ali, is Nizari Ismaili Muslims. Some people call themselves Muslims but don't know what exactly they are talking about. Here I mean those who are out of proper education, understanding & knowledge, and just living on surfaces!!! This must be clear for once & for ever that Shia Ismaili Nizari Ismailis Are Muslims. So, please respect it & these comments to be considered as information not forcing of Idea or belief.
@AshTheGamerIsAwesome
@AshTheGamerIsAwesome 4 месяца назад
yap yap, prayer is obligatory
@21stShepherd
@21stShepherd 10 месяцев назад
Awesome, professor!!! Loved it❤
@thrallingFRglory
@thrallingFRglory 3 месяца назад
Hardly convincing. The beliefs and practices of modern-day Ismailis seem to be well outside the fold of orthodox Islam.
@Chucku153
@Chucku153 10 месяцев назад
Good for you Professor ANDANI
@Zapoo
@Zapoo 9 месяцев назад
MARJA SHOPPING 😂😂
@rayfranklin5783
@rayfranklin5783 10 месяцев назад
Bravo! Thank you for all your work, Dr. Andani! Do you know if Alevi-Bektashis are also included as Shi'i Muslims by Ayatollah Khomeini or other Ayatollahs?
@ChefbyMistake
@ChefbyMistake 10 месяцев назад
They should.
@rayfranklin5783
@rayfranklin5783 10 месяцев назад
I looked into it and yes, Ayatollah Khomeini did declare Alevis as Muslims in the 1970s. @@ChefbyMistake
@JadAwwad
@JadAwwad 9 месяцев назад
Yes they are shia Muslims Ayatollah Khomeini considers them Muslim But they have some mistakes in term of adherence to the daily prayers , and similar religious obligations
@adamgulamhusein8768
@adamgulamhusein8768 8 месяцев назад
This was hilarious. Thanks Dr. Adnani
@brakaponter
@brakaponter 8 месяцев назад
What is "funny" for this Mr Rafed is that many sunnis dont believe Shia twelvers are muslims. Life among humans is amazing, above all with those who hate others who have not done anything wrong to others.
@atharhakim6964
@atharhakim6964 10 месяцев назад
Great work sir ❤
@thinkatit
@thinkatit 10 месяцев назад
Great Work Khalil, an absolute treat to watch!
@janonazooo4356
@janonazooo4356 6 месяцев назад
Where we can find the full discussion if it’s available?
@gabrielleordane4241
@gabrielleordane4241 6 месяцев назад
Made my day…
@laylaali5977
@laylaali5977 9 месяцев назад
No one has the right to declare any Muslim non Muslim only god decide who is Muslim
@fariduddin110
@fariduddin110 10 месяцев назад
The eight religions include the following religions that were mentioned in the previous comment: 1) Hanafi Sunni 2) Maliki Sunni 3) Hanbali Sunni 4) Shafi'i Sunni 5) Twelver Shia 6) Ismaili Shia 7) Zaidiyyah Shia and the eighth one, if I am not mistaken, is Abadiyyah. The followers of these religions are all Muslims.
@Ridhwanullah
@Ridhwanullah 5 месяцев назад
This is wrong. The first 4 are the same sect different schools of thoughts!
@Krumpina1029
@Krumpina1029 3 месяца назад
Ismailis don't even have Salah. They have their own prayer which is 3 combined into 2. Once in the morning and 2 combined in the evening. No daytime prayer. No concept of halal slaughter. No rules on zina. They say publicly that alcohol is forbidden, but internally they don't care about alcohol and most drink. This has little connection to Islam. It is set up to exploit people for money. And many people who give the cult leader their money believe he is god on earth.
@fariduddin110
@fariduddin110 10 месяцев назад
I would also like to provide an answer regarding the question raised by Ali Khamenei, who is both the leader of Iran and the source of imitation for some of the 12th century: According to the decision of the meeting of Oman in 2005 in Jordan, no one has the right to issue a fatwa and all the participants' representatives from 8 religions are all Muslims. This is the first reason
@squarecircles4846
@squarecircles4846 10 месяцев назад
Well it turns out that rafed is no different from jake. Thought he is unlike the wahabi tafiris but i was wrong
@Mr14994
@Mr14994 10 месяцев назад
Muhammad. Rafed is asking if ayatollah is bribed to release a fatwa declaring Ismaili as Muslim, I didn't know Ayatollahs can be bribed,
@user-ek5uh1rc7h
@user-ek5uh1rc7h 2 месяца назад
I think Khalil andani should ask the question to ayatola, we, 12ers, need to get answers from karim. Why does he not lead prayers. Why does he call himself Muslim? All Muslim follow the 5 pillars, if not not muslims
@hannah8081
@hannah8081 8 месяцев назад
I don’t believe on any religion at all. But I enjoyed this video! 😄👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@zeeshanshafa8284
@zeeshanshafa8284 10 месяцев назад
Marja shopping 😂
@fariduddin110
@fariduddin110 10 месяцев назад
Now this person does not know what he is talking about. The only Shia Muslim community that has a present and living imam at the head of its affairs is the Ismaili Imami Shia of Nizari Agakhani. Unfortunately, such people consider their Shiite brothers as non-Muslims due to their ignorance and lack of awareness, but those who do not accept the words of the Prophet according to the hadith of Saqlain and the historical event of Ghadirakhm regarding the succession of Hazrat Ali, they believe them Muslims! This is the very funny & ridiculous part of the discussion!
@Localpeople13
@Localpeople13 10 месяцев назад
THANK YOU SIR ... For your support for Ismaili and Islam at all
@daapengineer9226
@daapengineer9226 10 месяцев назад
Much more appreciated Dr.Actually there is a competition between deep knowledge and unlogical molvisim.
@shafiqueahmadi2361
@shafiqueahmadi2361 10 месяцев назад
Rafed needs to go Marja shopping😂😂😂
@awababdullah3963
@awababdullah3963 6 месяцев назад
Twelvers and Ismailis are Iron brothers ❤
@esotericwisdom49
@esotericwisdom49 10 месяцев назад
Thanks Khalil, you are love brother ❣️
@janonazooo4356
@janonazooo4356 6 месяцев назад
Bravo Dr. Andani
@IsmailiShia7
@IsmailiShia7 8 месяцев назад
Maula and Allah bless you khalil 💚❤️💚
@rigalahli2371
@rigalahli2371 10 месяцев назад
Dr.Khalil, I love you ❤!!!
@ghulamhussainbadruddinshah1325
@ghulamhussainbadruddinshah1325 10 месяцев назад
Ya Zahra marja shopper takfir somebody?! ‘Ahl al ijtihad will not be redeemed’ -mulla fayz kashani (r.a)
@LaughingJoystick23
@LaughingJoystick23 8 месяцев назад
Khalil is very smart. He has knowledge and wisdom to trap people who talks against ismailism. He is so brilliant. So proud of him♥️
@Krumpina1029
@Krumpina1029 Месяц назад
It's not hard to talk against Ismailism. This Twelver is maybe not very clever. Ismailis don't have Salah, don't have fasting, don't have a concept of halal slaughter, don't have a concept of riba, and their shahada says "Ali is Allah". And their Aga Khan is an adulterer. Case closed.
@LaughingJoystick23
@LaughingJoystick23 Месяц назад
@@Krumpina1029 what a lame statement.
@Krumpina1029
@Krumpina1029 Месяц назад
@@LaughingJoystick23 I see you aren't attempting to defend adultery.
@LaughingJoystick23
@LaughingJoystick23 Месяц назад
​@@Krumpina1029tell me about your sect, I'll give you facts about yours. I don't need to defend my Imam of the time.❤️ The world knows him, Allah Knows him.
@LaughingJoystick23
@LaughingJoystick23 Месяц назад
​@@Krumpina1029looks like you are twelver, but let me confirm first. Then I will start like the way Khalil dest.ryoed
@dr.saidsaid
@dr.saidsaid 10 месяцев назад
This is the problem of not following the Quran and Sunnah and rely on relying on people's opinions.
@Hastenforthedawm
@Hastenforthedawm 7 месяцев назад
And also an evidence why ijmah is superior to following sole, isolated authorities.
@TheMuslimApologist
@TheMuslimApologist 10 месяцев назад
No
@aryan1481
@aryan1481 3 месяца назад
Great job Dr Andani. You are a shinning example of the Ismailis!!!
@parvezvelji5133
@parvezvelji5133 5 месяцев назад
What this programme showed me is how important education is. These so called clerics are an albatross around the people’s neck .
@ZoyaAli01
@ZoyaAli01 10 месяцев назад
Well done Khalil!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Hashashin112
@Hashashin112 5 месяцев назад
Excellent bRUH Keep it up
@user-xh5fm5yt4f
@user-xh5fm5yt4f 4 месяца назад
This person kh.. used to hang his citizens from cranes until they suffocated until they died after a period of up to 20 minutes just because he was not considered the legitimate caliph. So what is the importance of his acknowledgment that a particular religious group is developing to Islam or not?
@e.k874
@e.k874 10 месяцев назад
What’s the point of being Muslim if ur not going to follow the pillars of Islam ?! Especially not praying
@shahidraheem6644
@shahidraheem6644 10 месяцев назад
You sunis are follow quran amd sunah rightvif so then why you people kill people ,then why your moulvies rap children who come masjid to read quran, why you people do all wrong things which are prohibited in islam only you sunis think prayer 5time a day means you are musk m no you are shayaiteens munafiqeens raps ,scamers killers,rapiest etc sorry to say you sunis are not even humans you peoples doys and cow who blam ismailis are non muslim Alhamdulilallah we follow quran teaching and teaching of islam yazid suni logn munafiqeen
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 10 месяцев назад
🇷🇺☦🤝☪️🇮🇷That's right! That guy is an embarrassment to Twelvers💁
@shafiqueahmadi2361
@shafiqueahmadi2361 10 месяцев назад
Yes there are twelver salafies like Rafed who doesnt read their own text and doesnt follow their own Marajehas. Its Rafed who is being dishonest. Also when your own Marjas call us Muslims, how can Rafed come and Takfir all the Ismailis? If anything, you should stop Rafed being a Hypocrite.
@Chucku153
@Chucku153 10 месяцев назад
No love lost
@Mr14994
@Mr14994 10 месяцев назад
Agha jawab naqvi is a true scholar amongst you ,who praises Ismaili in his several discourses ,you can unsuscribe him too ,
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 10 месяцев назад
@@Mr14994 I am not Muslim, and don't care about those schools! I only care about one thing: is Andani supports both Sunni and Shia + twelvers of the Islamic Republic of Iran and Lebanon or is he a hater and divider of Muslims like Jake and the Sunni who claim that they're not Muslims. He proved that he is just like them a Shia hater, so I unsuscribe
@ChefbyMistake
@ChefbyMistake 10 месяцев назад
You are a Muslim you make this ID for portraying yourself as a Russian.@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@arcestm3411
@arcestm3411 7 дней назад
As a twelver, we do not claim Rafed, i think this video is Psyop to create diversion among twelvers and Nizaris I would further add that rafed himself isnt a twelver or even a muslim given his condescending tone and insulting attitude i would assume he is just a paid actor here to insult both nizaris and twelvers
@ashketchum1793
@ashketchum1793 7 месяцев назад
If the aga Khan says ismailis are not muslims will you change your opinion
@sherry-10z
@sherry-10z 5 месяцев назад
Why would he do that?😂 His ancestors are the reason why Islam is present today. His ancestors are the reason why Allah is known.
@HadiM-rb7yo
@HadiM-rb7yo 10 месяцев назад
These people have absolutely no problem with Muslims not fasting Ramadan, as long as they're following a fatwa from "trusted Ulama", but they call Ismailis ((kuffar)) for following the imam as they follow their Ulama!
@sajadkarim
@sajadkarim 10 месяцев назад
He sounds quite arrogant and disrespectful, but the way you have shut his dumb mind up is just hilarious.
@thebacheafghan
@thebacheafghan 9 месяцев назад
Lol he is the guy from clubhouse..now even twelvers ur friends on clubhouse call you kaafir..
@zakymalik6920
@zakymalik6920 9 месяцев назад
I'm neither a twelver nor ismaili but. Seems to me dr. Andani is making Loaded Question Fallacy
@muhammadbenjuraij7734
@muhammadbenjuraij7734 4 месяца назад
It’s very interesting to learn what the Ismaaeelis believe in our times, however there is a consensus between Sunni and Shia that Ismaaeelis are not Muslims! To deny the Hajj and Salah is definitely kufr ! When you reject the obligation of these things you reject the Quran and the one who received it for us from Allah Muhammad عليه الصلاة والسلام and therefore you nullify the second half of your Shahadah! You cannot enter Islam thereafter by just reciting the Shahadah again! Rather you must recite it and add to it the affirmation of all the things that were previously rejected! Anyone who declares another Muslim after explicitly rejecting the obligation of these is also subject to the same and so it matters not what fulaan or Fulaan Scholar says because it’s based on clear principles and conditions and not the whims of others! As interesting as the Ismaeelis are they are 100% not Muslim just the way Iblis became Shaitan and banished from the assembly of Angels and cursed all because he rejected the obligation of prostration to Adam عليه السلام
@barz404
@barz404 10 месяцев назад
ISMAILIS ARE NOT MUSLIMS. HOW DO YOU NOT OBSERVE SALAT AND PERFORM HAJJ BELIEVE IN THE QURAN AND SUNNAH AND STILL CALL YOURSELF A MUSLIM?!?!?
@Erienna872
@Erienna872 10 месяцев назад
You actually don’t have the right to decide who is Muslim or who is not! Ismailis , quranist all Muslims. You fanatics are not own the religion
@ChefbyMistake
@ChefbyMistake 10 месяцев назад
Ismailis do the both.
@barz404
@barz404 10 месяцев назад
do what both exactly? they DO NOT perform salaat like the muslims nor like the prophet s.a.w@@ChefbyMistake
@ChefbyMistake
@ChefbyMistake 10 месяцев назад
@@barz404 They perform Salah on coassions. They believe there are two world one is Zaahir for Muslims and other is Batin for Momineens. It’s a complicated subject for an average person.
@barz404
@barz404 9 месяцев назад
@@ChefbyMistake did the prophet pbuh do both? If he did please elaborate
@ajeebrehman8262
@ajeebrehman8262 3 месяца назад
Here rafed was 100% right cuz neither ismailis believe in onenees of God not nor they belive in any of the usools of din .... They also refer to imam jaffer as kazzab ( a liar )... So rafed is still true in his stance 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@michaelcaza6766
@michaelcaza6766 8 месяцев назад
Khalil, you deserve taqfir! YOU ARE NOT MUSLIMS!
@hannah8081
@hannah8081 8 месяцев назад
I don’t believe on any religion at all. But I enjoyed this video! 😄👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
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