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Kia Niro EV4 and E Niro 4+ comparison 

Jonathan Porterfield Eco Cars
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Thanks for watching , so what would you do ? swap or stick ? 🤔
Personally, the extra £20k to change to a NEW Niro EV4 for just the HUD , V2L , Summon ( via the key) is too much !
I also like the fact that the e niro does look 'bland' , but is so brilliantly efficient.
Let me know your thoughts in the comments !

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@ivanbenstead8586
@ivanbenstead8586 Год назад
I have the digestive 4+, best car I’ve ever had.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Me too , not just my best EV , best car I've ever owned, period !
@neilgillespie3223
@neilgillespie3223 20 дней назад
Thank you Jonathan another really useful video
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield 20 дней назад
Thanks Neil 👍
@briangriffiths114
@briangriffiths114 Год назад
Although both are far too big for me, I prefer the older car as I am an enthusiastic consumer of digestive biscuits.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
And our waistlines back this up 🤫🤪
@palusisko
@palusisko Год назад
The most good news is the Niro II has still battery from SK Innovation(better technology, low fire risk), Good Job Kia! :-)
@richardhaywoodh
@richardhaywoodh Год назад
Great side by side comparison. Personally I think colour makes a big difference on the original e-Niro, for me especially the Yacht Blue make the car look great and not bland or plain. The new models solid rear quarter panels compared to the windows on the earlier model limit the drivers view there. The new cars display in front of the driver looks nice but all in all there is nothing on the new car that would induce me to change my existing e-Niro 4+
@Timstravels01
@Timstravels01 Год назад
Either of those would do me fine. I prefer McVities digestives however. 🤣 Great vid mate.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Thanks bud 👍
@stevensanger
@stevensanger Год назад
It's nice to see EV’s are becoming more affordable for us poor folk
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Like any 'new' technologies, prices will be ( and are) falling over time. Think mobile phones in the 80's , flat screen TVs etc etc
@macduff1964a
@macduff1964a Год назад
As you know JP, we have the slightly earlier 4 and I’ll stick with the torque….if only it came with a tow hitch….all them lb-ft would come in handy. Also after 2 yrs & 30k plus, she’s still a winner.
@colingoode3702
@colingoode3702 Год назад
Both are good but a bit too big for what we need as our 1st EV. Currently we are looking at a used 1-2 year old top spec facelift Kona Ultimate as a second car for my wife. It will only ever be charged from home & used for local trips & the odd longer trip within the range of the 64kWh battery. Personally I'm Hobnob man.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Love a hobnob too ! Kona a fine ev , just a bit to small inside for me.
@richardhaywoodh
@richardhaywoodh Год назад
We have e-Niro & Kona Facelift, yes the Kona is a little smaller, especially in the cabin & boot area, but you can make the boot almost as big as the e-Niros using a custom flat boot floor
@NancyPickering
@NancyPickering Год назад
I'm with you, Jonathan. I love my e-Niro and the fact that the Niro EV is bigger is not a plus for me. The Niro now must be at the lower end of similar cars in terms of maximum charge speed, so it's a shame Kia haven't addressed that.
@FancyaBevMate
@FancyaBevMate Год назад
One great feature missing from the older vehicle is something I really miss from the leaf, the i pedal. My next bev might be the Mercedes EQB for taxi work. I’ve got quite a few issues at the moment (going in for warranty work in july) my steering is able to make slight bends without the self steering enabled maybe caused by an annoying centre dead spot (I’ve had new tyres and tracking) the electric motor has an awful whine when on trailing throttle and the clicking gear box mounts noise has returned along with the standard kia creaking suspension/mounts. I’ll report back when issues done. Personally I think the huge torque through the steering has caused one of my issuers hence the new vehicle has reduced amounts. Cheers
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
The niro ev DOES have a 'i pedal' regen setting , i missed this out ! Hope you get the issues sorted ! Is yours the 1st edition e niro ?
@FancyaBevMate
@FancyaBevMate Год назад
@@JonathanPorterfield yes mate it is
@rupertwilson5928
@rupertwilson5928 Год назад
Nice comparison of the old vs new. I'm really pleased with my new NiroEV 4. The addition of auto lane change on motorway when using the adaptive cruise control is very nice, it also adjusts the maximum speed where variable speed limits are in force. Maybe use the new 4 on your next trip darn sarf and see what you think 🤔 Only downside vs my previous 28kWh Ioniq is the efficiency of the NiroEV can't match the #Windknife. But then the NiroEV will do 280 miles vs 150 in the Ioniq
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Nice 👍 I would like to take the new Niro EV 4 on a long test , but our customer wouldn't be best pleased if i put more than the 20 miles showing on the dash ! Good to hear of the new features you've found usefull , is it £20k more useful over a used 21 plate 4+ ?
@dphillips9641
@dphillips9641 Год назад
I prefer the looks of the new version but hate all of the piano black used on the interior.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Yes , I agree , far too much piano black !
@elliottkeen9933
@elliottkeen9933 Год назад
Both fabulous cars enjoy your t
@andyjdhurley
@andyjdhurley Год назад
The towing is make or break for me. I might be driving one now if the original had it (officially) but I could not get it then and ended up getting a used ICE to tide me over a few years. Maybe in a couple of years.
@AndrewEbling
@AndrewEbling Год назад
New one has a slightly bigger boot. I'd take the extra practicality, personally.
@richardh6756
@richardh6756 Год назад
Love your channel.😊 I have just charged my new kia Niro 2 for the first time on a public charger 174 khw shellrecharge. when it started I got 46khw to 80%, then 27khw at 90% then 17khw at 100% full charge.does this seem right.did not warm battery.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Thanks for watching Richard , I appreciate it 👍 . A number of factors affect charge rates , local supply to the rapid at that time period you where plugged in , air temp, temp of battery when plugging in, SOC when starting the rapid. All of the above will dictate the DC charge rate on all EVs
@mellorij
@mellorij Год назад
What about the Heat Pump? This is included on the old Niro, I believe it is an option on the new one?
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Correct , see my video on this subject ! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fiHl90y-1Qg.html&feature=share7
@OraEtLabora0
@OraEtLabora0 Год назад
2:18 not testing 🎤 while "on the set"?
@davids9552
@davids9552 Год назад
Can't see any EV4+'s on your website? Would snap up a 2021 EV4+ for £21-22k!
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
We offer 'buy to order' to keep costs low , please contact us on 01856 480008 or e mail info@reflexorkney.co.uk for details of our service.
@chrisp7839
@chrisp7839 Год назад
Where did the sunglasses holder go ?
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Dunno ! and the sliding cover over the cupholders has gone !
@AdamPurcell
@AdamPurcell Год назад
Pedantry alert - chocolate digestives have the chocolate on the bottom not the top! Nevertheless I'd probably go for the top spec. Got to love those gadgets.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Good shout re where the chocolate is 👍👏👏🤣
@Timstravels01
@Timstravels01 Год назад
That’s top pedantry. I love it!
@MarkAtkin
@MarkAtkin 4 месяца назад
If that is true then I eat mine upside down.
@jeffreycooper8408
@jeffreycooper8408 Год назад
Unfortunately I've lost so much money on my 4 eniro, I'll never be able to afford either of those 😪
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
How come you're 'lost' money on the e niro ?
@jeffreycooper8408
@jeffreycooper8408 Год назад
@@JonathanPorterfield I bought at the wrong time - I paid £29K a year and a half ago (which actually was cheap at the time) and I'm only getting P/Ex valuations of £16K (if I'm lucky) - also, the PCP interest rates are now far worse, just to add insult to injury. Could sell privately to lessen the hit, but still not great, and scary !!
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 Год назад
Digestive. Maybe chocolate digestive in 2 years time once depreciation kicks in...
@fire_stick
@fire_stick Год назад
Err bit of a mic failure?
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
Yes , i struggled with the sound , time for some shopping i think 🤔
@OraEtLabora0
@OraEtLabora0 Год назад
still 🥔cam without HD
@chrisrowe22
@chrisrowe22 Год назад
That’s the second time this year you’ve taken your jumper off! Climate change is real!
@andrewrigamonti4144
@andrewrigamonti4144 Год назад
The new car doesn't take a roof rack. Fake roof bars. That's awful news if you surf.
@solangenrk
@solangenrk 11 месяцев назад
Why do u write Niro EV4 Niro and EV4 are 2 diffrent cars and the later one are not released yet. EV 4 gonna have 800v system.
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield 11 месяцев назад
The old Niro was called ' e niro ' The new shape Niro is called 'niro ev' and the trim level on this was a 4 !
@Anonymous-ib8so
@Anonymous-ib8so Год назад
EV are NOT Eco cars! They are far more environmentally damaging than a modern diesel. Due to manufacture they use 100 to 300 barrels of oil in their production on average. The rare earths used in the battery are mined in new mines often by child slave labour. To make one 450 kg battery more than 300,000 tonnes of earth are mined to produce it. They are a far higher fire risk than a petrol or diesel car and fire services have to send twice the number of appliances to try to extinguish it. The crews using around 30,000 liters of water to control it whereas a ICE fire need around 3,000 litres so these EV fire will use more of the water we need to live
@JonathanPorterfield
@JonathanPorterfield Год назад
What a load of rubbish ! You sir need to stop reading the Daily Mail and do proper research ! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gXdLA63zZFE.html&feature=share7
@richardlphillips
@richardlphillips Год назад
No rare earths in batteries. ICE cars typically catch fire 20x more than Electric cars. Thes rest of your claims are also complete bobbins.
@alanjenkinson7812
@alanjenkinson7812 Год назад
I’ve had both & am now back in a 4+ because the 4 let me down multiple times with zombie mode. Kia were totally useless, the dealer couldn’t care less and Lex, my lease co, wouldn’t take responsibility, so I gave it back and am now a lot of money out of pocket because there were no other suitable cars in sock
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