Kia Stinger - How To Install JB4 Tune (3.3 TT) 

Hey how far along are you? All mods on my 22' KIA Stinger GT2 Scorpion 🦂 will be installed by the 20th. Adding WMI and the Mishimoto Intercooler. Dyno tuning. Idk what the max out will be.

@@dillondiemert4401 you’ll be surprised of what it’s capable of. Depends on who tunes it but you can get some major butt dyno results with it

Hey José! I’m glad it helped man, that’s why I originally stated the channel. Thanks man 👊

😂 right on bro! Appreciate the luv!! 💪

He got nice ears.

That’s so awesome bro! Congrats!! You will be shocked how the Stinger responds to those mods, it’s insane 🐝🐝

@@twn2rbo man so I couldn’t even contain myself today. Was in the garage at 6am. Thanks to your video install took no time at all. The hard for me has just getting the tap in on the drivers side wire because not much room for 2 hands. One trying to pull the sleeve back. The other trying to grab just the red wire and then getting the positap on It was literally the last thing I had to do to finish the install And in my head. I was like don’t drop this damn tap if your life depends on it because I was barely able to keep it in place with one finger. Long enough to reach the wire to screw in Honestly that took more time than the rest of the install combined I was intimidated by this because it’s electrical But if I can do this. Any of you guys can…now I’m starting to see how insane I am and if I wanna try going for the plugs on my own lol

@@joshuabreen congrats man! A little courage goes a long way and builds confidence. Nice work. I laughed out loud bc i 100% agree with you on the sleeves with the posi tap, when I recorded the video that part took forever on the drivers side. I may end up getting the EWG connecters so I don’t have to tap in every time I go to the dealer, there are two pin holes in the left one bc I couldn’t get the same hole again like the passenger lol. That and the firewall was a little tricky. Enjoy!!!!

@@twn2rbo did you run the OBDII wire on the outside of the gromet or poke a new hole, I didn't poke a hole thinking there would be a decent seal on the sides vs a hole big enough for the plug on the OBDII wire to go through....just trying to see if you had any moisture get in the car is all

@@joshuabreen I removed it and was hard to get back on but I got it

Congrats! You’ll love it 👊👊

Thanks buddy!! Hahaha I’m going to avoid that video lol. But I will do one when the time comes to change them :)

Great! I wanted to know the HKS M45iL Spark Plugs, are they pre gapped to .022? No need to gap them right? Just insert?

@@SSH939 yeah they will be pre gapped around .22 - .24 , you can double check them all for consistency, but I put trust in HKS and just threw them all in. So glad I did

@@twn2rbo No they're pregapped to .26 to .28 lol. I got mine in and checked them all after install, i removed them this last weekend. checked them they were at mostly .28. I brought them all down to .21-.23. The tool is very easy to mess up and tighten to much so be very careful

Mission accomplished my friend, thanks for leaving a comment! Back then it took me a little while to get to the point but hey! It worked!

I was just thinking about that yesterday, yeah I’m going to order the adapters since they are back in stock now and I need to remove the JB4 again ( scheduled service )

Nice!!! That’s pretty impressive. I am highly considering the WMI next. I also heard it helps with carbon build up on valves. I am going to focus on aesthetics for the channel coming up. I want to drop it 1” and get rid of wheel gap. Maybe new wheels and do some carbon fiber stuff , wing , wrap etc. Thanks for view and comment 😀

You have instagram?

@@twn2rbo I’m opposite lol. I’ve been slowly building the foundation, then the aesthetics for me

@@LoneStarStinger TWN 2RBO (Nick Boost)

@@LoneStarStinger awesome, what’s you foundation?

Yeah I’m about 50% through my HKS coming up on 10k miles. I’m NOT looking forward to that one again, but I’ll make a video when I do and hopefully it will help out. I chose to do the specialty sockets and swivels route to avoid removing the intake. I’m wondering how the dealer will react when my maintenance for new spark plugs come and they see HLS racing on the side 😂 I’ll just go huh 🤷

@@twn2rbo your swapping every 20k miles?

Glad it helped! Enjoy it! Don’t be scared of e30, it’s much better for the engine anyways, less carbon build up

Agree!

what's a tcu tune? lake windbooster or jba throttle thing?

@@curtislaketek2952 Transmission Control Unit. Sky is the limit and you can push things as far as you want in this game 💰. So far I’m good with the piggy back 😂

@@twn2rbo ohh lol i mean i'll just act like i know what that mean lol. sounds very awesome, yes i'm happy with JB4 as well so far lol

Correct - that could be true regarding the dealer. From the data I’m collecting, I see that some dealers will warranty with mods including the JB4, and some will do things like you mentioned. I would just assume if you mod, there is a chance you will be paying for certain repairs. The PNP connections would add some peace of mind for you, so I would try to get them.

My thoughts are the same for the Pnp connectors. Also I live in nh and the salt is brutal during winters so I don't need corrosion to create issues from a mod I do.

@@bluev2srt smart!

i had mine ordered and they called me a week later saying back order. so i just went and tapped the fuel wires stock

So intakes alone do not make a big performance difference unless you tune. It does seem counter productive since we are taking the factory cold air intake and then installing open intakes that are grabbing more hot air now, but the main point it air flow restriction and that’s where they come in handy when tuning for more air and fuel. Thankfully we have intercooler to help cool the air down, but I agree, the snorkles are going to create a better situation with cooking that air down that initially goes in

To be honest, I don’t think so. I would get the PNP adapters though, EWG is not going to make any difference in the seat. I ran my car without them for a whole year, I only recently added them to help manage a tune I’m developing with Lozic, but they are intended for map 6 with manual adjustments. They are known to throw codes.

Good question. It’s all plug and play. The only thing I felt I had to do, is put in colder spark plugs, I went with HKS m45il. I didn’t gap them either. They run perfect and have been for the last 10k. A dyno is on my list for a video to do though. But in short, this isn’t a dyno tune it’s a piggyback tune 😃. BurgerTuning did all the work for you.

Hi "Twin Turbo" please correct me if I am wrong here...so you reckon I can install JB4 myself and forget about the dyno because JB4 will be just fine on its own? The car should run fine? Or if I installed JB4 will I have to change spark plugs too? I dont wanna break anything and definitely dont wanna get any warning lights on the dashboard. Will JB4 affect ECU ,because I dont want to void car's waranty? What do you do when you take a car for a service do you disconnect JB4 before hand? Thanks in advance ,your help is much appreciated

@@JP-qb6mp I’m glad you asked, great question. I can only advise of what I would do, yes get new spark plugs. I went with HKSm45il as a plug and play option. I’m a mortgage underwriter, I don’t work on cars, but I figured it out, if others can do it, so can you. Be patient. Secondly, you need to throw the idea of a warranty out of your mind, magnason moss act or not, litigation can be expensive and fixing what broke could be less. There is an old saying, you must pay to play. I will report, if you mimic what I’ve done in all my other videos, I will say I’ve had no issues yet. My next 9k service is up, I’m removing all my mods, bc there is a squeak when I shut the engine off from the turbos. It’s a lot of work, but I’m not showing up with mods. Don’t get me wrong, I want to KEEP my warranty, but I also accepted its a risk. Good luck 👍

@@twn2rbo thank you for your answer ,I just was just curious whether you have to take it to the dyno after those mods being done and secondly whether mods were acceptable at the servicing , now I understand how it works ,thank you again

Hello! I did not mess with the gap since this is my daily driver. They are a couple steps colder than OE, but I will say I’ve had 0 issues and have not gone into limp mode once since installing them with the JB4. I have run maps 1-5 with up to 23.7 lbs of boost with e30 mix several times (several tanks of e30) and no issues. It’s performance is amazing and most importantly it runs super smooth in map 2 on 93 octane daily. Better than stock all around. I did check the gap they came with to ensure consistency and of corse being HKS they were all the same.

Push and pull my friend. Good questions. Push on the grommet towards the engine and then get a coat hanger and run it through, once done just squeeze it and pull back and it will reseal.

I did not touch the gap on mine. Going on 10K miles with them and not one issue to report. I run map 3 the most. I would not adjust the gap unless you plan to run map 5 + IMO

Yeah, it’s just extending those wire via harness, so you will we be posi tapping into the PNP adapter instead of OEM wires , I only mention that bc I’ve had a couple people comment that the dealer was checking for the pin holes on big warranty repairs

Thanks bro. Keep up the great videos. I really appreciate it.

Thanks bro! Lots more to come 💪

Thanks for the questions, they will not only help you but hopefully others enjoy this amazing platform. If you do all the above, HKS plugs do NOT need gapped. They come specifically gapped for this car and they are a little more pricey in return. HKS is a great brand and I trust them 100%. They will not last over 30k miles, they are race plugs after all, so be sure to document these things. Yes, you will be absolutely amazed on 93 octane with intakes, exhaust and plugs running map 2. Your car will perform much better and you will defiantly feel the increase across the board with no issues. I say that because I have never had one issue or gone into limp mode etc since this same mentioned setup. Just enjoy it!! E85 is great, however keep in mind you would want to do it daily even if it was local. It is corn based fuel and can make things clog up after awhile, esp I winter time on cold starts. You could instead, order some Boostane and follow the instructions and run map 3 safely. We put a little e85 in to boost the octane up to extreme like race fuel levels, which the Boostane will also do the same. But again, once in a while. Boostane will discolor things internally etc. always remember , when we re engineer a car, things can break, you have to pay to play!! But life is short

@@twn2rbo HKS plugs are the best and don't need to be gapped with an ECU tune, however they do in fact need to be gapped with JB4. All plugs do with JB4. .022-.024 is recommended. Map 1 and 2 generally work fine with 91 octane or better but of course you need to log and see if there are any timing corrections.

@@SlipAngleG70 thanks for the info, the more the better. The HKS plugs are a couple steps colder and came gapped at .28 I believe . So far it’s an Improvement, but I will be doing future videos of how to long runs and send to BurgerTuning for advice. Hopefully things are optimal or they can let me know what to adjust it not 😃

Great choice! You will read all kinds of opinions on this, but the fact is that it’s a gamble. People are quick to throw the magnuson moss warranty act out there, but if Kia wanted to take you to court they would drag out the litigation until your broke, on the other hand people state that some dealers offer to install the JB4 and other MODS and have replaced items under warranty when MODIFIED. I’ve read a lot from both sides of the aisle , but at the end of the day, it’s a gamble. The JB4 is really easy to remove and being a piggy back tune, I wouldn’t worry too much about it. You just have to use common sense, if something is making a weird noise or engine malfunctions, take the intakes off and then go up there etc. I will say, it’s worth the gamble to me. The car is 10x more fun and powerful with the mods I’ve done. 🐝🐝

@@twn2rbo When removing the JB4, can you simply unscrew the posi-taps? And then screw them into the same hole when you re-install?

@@yangl123 yea, that’s what I did when I put it back on this last time! I think I may purchase the ewg adapter kit to eliminate this though. The drivers side was a little difficult to get the same hole and I made a one :/ Also, I heard some dealers look for that hole now. Just a heads up. I think the EWG kit is like $50

Oh yeah, I had the the amber deletes on the front , but Mikes car wash tore one so I removed them. My next moves are lowering 1” and getting rid of all the black chrome and around the window with a dark gloss carbon fiber that basically looks like gloss black until you get close and see the carbon fiber pattern. Much more to come, thanks for watching man!

Who is that? are they in Indianapolis?

He’s a RU-vidr with a Stinger GT2 and a tricked out Optima. Makes similar content as yourself. ru-vid.com

Nope, I just take it through Mikes Car Wash with the ultimate pass. No leaks or issues. Good question tho 👍. **I would recommend you get some double sided Velcro tho, you don’t want it sliding back hard when you launch, plus it looks clean

appreciate the response! Yes got the double sided velcro for both units

Mine came with them, the only additional item I added to the cart was the Bluetooth adapter.

What did you gap your new spark plugs to for jb4????

I haven’t heard that one yet. I would suggest you go to Google and see what others are saying first. However, I will mention, that may users find that resetting the ECU alone fixed many issues. Good luck

I researched a video on here, I was trying to find it, but a guy shows you exactly what sockets and swivels to purchase and do it without removing the intake. I followed the instructions on his video and was able to do it and I am NOT A MECHANIC lol. However, I wanted it done badly and worked up the confidence to do it bc I knew I was going to get the JB4. I am so happy I did. The drivers side is not bad at all. The passenger side was a B&$@! Though, but again, with the right tools, YOU CAN do it without removing the intake. I wanted to avoid that at all costs personally.

@@twn2rbo appreciate the info, bro. Great channel, from a fellow stinger lover.

@@vikingengca9878 anytime! Enjoy that car / such a blessing man!

Passenger side one swivel socket is needed with swivel sparkplug remover. come from the top, but angel for far side passenger plug. You can get away without swivel here, i used a 10mm socket on an extension with the smallest socket wrench size. Just enough room for it, careful not to drop the coil pack bolts. they will disappear, the center passenger side come straight down at it with a swivel socket and a extension for the coil pack bolt and spark plug. the front passenger you need swivel but is pretty easy to remove. Make sure to tighten them all down correctly. I used 25 pound's with torq wrench even then I'm not sure if that's right.

@@curtislaketek2952 thank you for that detailed comment sir! That’s what I’m talking about, I love when people come together and share experiences 💪💪💪

Im pushing a solid 480 AWHP...

I need to make it to the AWD dyno as soon as I can, but from all the data I have collected on map 3 (low e30 mix) is around 420 awhp.

Yes map 0 will disable everything and run stock mapping. I personally would install the EWG wires for map 6. I have them, but have not got around to make those vids yet, been waiting on the weather to get nice again

You will find some different views on this, even though Terry from BMS says they are not required when running map 1-2 with 93 octane, the Stingers OE plugs are known to have misfire issues. My opinion is whenever you are increasing boost at all with a tune, you need to replace the plugs with something colder. You can always regap your OE plugs (depending on how many miles are on them) to around .22 -.24. I would definitely at least get some intakes. Many stinger owners report plugs blowout when left stock and running map 2 for a period of time.

🤣🤣🤣. I get that all the time and laugh every time I see it 👊👊👊

@@twn2rbo I figured you did! I'm gonna watch more of your videos....looking at a new Stinger 3.3tt

@@chrisoconnor3119 heck yeah bro, I just got started. I been using iMovie but I’m going to start learning Davinci Resolve next since I just picked up the new iPhone 13 pro max. You will have a blast with it, car gets a TON of positive attention as well. I’ve had lots of cars but most I start getting bored with after a year, this one I love just as much if not more now.

You are the second person to ask me that! 😆 I seen this car and fell in love with the red seats in person, but do I wish it had a sun roof. I’m 6’1” and all cars with sunroofs seem a little cramped, this one is so spacious. My bro is 6’7” and he has plenty of head room too.

I heard the brake pads are what cause the rattles when braking. Look into changing the pads first if they are stock.

I don’t have that issue yet. What’s your mileage on your car?

Yep, the only additional items I would highly recommend is PNP adapters to avoid piercing the red O2 wire, one less thing to worry about when you take it to dealer. Also the Bluetooth adapter so you can change mapping and monitor the settings on your phone. If you grab the JB4 from BMS directly, you can use this link to support the Chanel 👊 burgertuning.com/?rfsn=6489789.d102702

I ordered all my JB4 stuff from them directly. He doesn’t allow retailers to discount the product so I just got mine from BMS. I just became an affiliate with them so if you use this link and order it will help support my channel. burgertuning.com/?rfsn=6489789.d102702

I think it boils down to preference - I do lots of research on stuff before I do it and I seen a lot of people reporting 0 issues with the HKS and they do not need to be regapped or anything, plug and play. Plus, I messaged the guys at K8 who sell aftermarket performance parts for this platform and they said they have had very good luck with the HKS M45ils and highly recommended them. So I gave them a shot and I am completely happy with the performance all around. I’m sure the ones you mentioned are great as well. My Lexus’s I’ve owned over the years use Denso plugs from the factory, so Denso is a great plug too.

@@twn2rbo Thanks for the reply. I have read so many posts about which plugs to use and my logic was too use Burgers Denso's since I thought they developed the JB4 maps using those plugs. If you are happy with them that is good enough for me. You get what you pay for imo. The left bank is going to be fun. Might just remove the manifold. I don't like torquing spark plugs with multiple swivels and extensions. I have the MBRP stainless and it sounds glorious.

@@FordPickUPRed I was in the same spot! The job definitely requires some patience , but it’s not that bad looking back, I’m just glad I did it. The OE plugs caused some major issues and one video I seen was horrible, the guys car was making horrible noises and he lost all his power and had CEL on dash , then it would go away, he was so upset, I would be to. But like I said, I think you will have 0 issues going with either one. The HKS perform like a champ at red line!

100% YES! Recap of my experience is: I got intakes, no issues. Then put cat back on, started going in limp mode a lot! It was cold out so overboosting is your issue, hot or cold, the stinger responds to mods VERY GOOD. I then did HKS plugs thinking that would fix it, nope. JB4 fixed it ALL and the power increase is AMAZING 🐝🐝. I hope this helps 👊

@@twn2rbo yes it does , time to spend more money lol thank u very much

@@chiprothmond1863 😂 😂 😂

I didn’t have any issues, but then again it was only on there for like 2-3 months. I used 3m brand last time.

If you do, just grab some GooGone or something and it should come off fairly easy

Well worth it my friend, go here bit.ly/3OlKuMq and select Kia/Hyundai. You can type Kia stinger in his search bar and it will come up with all the accessories. I highly recommend the Bluetooth app. Use code TWN2RBO

I’m about to take mine off as well as the intakes. I have a squeak noise and hatch rattle I’m making them fix on my next service

@@twn2rbo so it’s the same thing just do everything backwards? Any easy way to do it

@@youngfap8138 yes. I already made a video removing everything before my first service too

@@twn2rbo link

@@youngfap8138 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sVhV6F1AXjw.html

Record your logs, but most importantly find out what plugs you have in there and how long they have been in there. How many miles on it? Im assuming you purchased it private party if that is on the car already

@@twn2rbo I got it from a dealership. Which is why I was so confused when I was looking at the engine bay and noticed the black box, and went inside to check the ob port and saw the jb4 lettering and realized it was wired in already

@@justadude5386 I’m surprised the dealer left that on, but that could be a good sign you have a cool dealership when it comes to mods on the car. But if it’s on there then yeah I would check the plugs and prob just order some new ones to be safe. The HKS plugs are great but are good for around 20k miles. Just to be safe but that’s just me. Does it feel solid when driving it?

@@twn2rbo I had a GT just RWD, but this one is GT2 AWD so yes but I thought it was just cause it was AWD and was getting traction easier 💀💀💀.

Hmmm that could be a possibility, I wouldn’t rule it out. Computers are very complex now days. Please keep me posted.. that seem very interesting. At the same time, computers are very advanced and should know to recalibrate it after a few WOT pulls from 30-80mph.

@@twn2rbo I would think that as well, but going home to do this now lol. Don't have my tools tried a mini pipe wrench and could not spin the bolt lose

@@twn2rbo I reset the battery lol, will take it for a spin. Also Disconnecting the battery with powered trunk wont allow it to close once plugged back in. I didn't know with more strength you can close it hahah. I called Kia asking for help

@@curtislaketek2952 trial and error - we all learn!

I was a little, but starting a RU-vid channel was also a risk and it’s helping ease the stress of that situation financially. The. I just figured I would take the JB4 off. Tbh, it’s dealer specific on that stuff, so care and some … well.. check out my Stinger vs dealship vid I made last month

When it comes to a piggyback tune, you have to be willing risk a possible warranty loss if something breaks. They can check the ECU for altered torque and boost numbers even with the JB4 off the car. That’s worse case scenario. A lot will depend on the dealership. Some will Install the JB4 , others will void a warranty from an exhaust being on the car. I’ve seen both happen. But no, the JB4 will make it feel better and provide more power, it’s a more conservative option with a lot of flexibility, I’m not sure if the 2.0 offers it, I think I’ve seen 2.5T ones but they may be cross compatible

@@twn2rbo awesome thanks for this. Ya they offer it with the 2.0 but I’ve seen very little stuff online about people taking about it. I guess if I ever ran into issue with a dealership I could just try bringing it to a different dealership until I find a more forgiving one etc. thanks bro!

@@markjdover actually check out my last kia stinger vs dealship, it was a disaster when I took it to a different dealer. I would recommend you go to the one you got the car from, they have never said anything to me and the last time I went I left the intakes and oil catch can on. All I removed was the JB4.

@@twn2rbo ah wow ok! Thanks man

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Nope, not on this one. You do want to let the ECU fall asleep though, very important. (Pop the hood , lock the doors and place the fob 15 feet away, waiting 15 before you start tapping and plugging stuff) very important 😀

@@twn2rbo Like how important lol, i didn't do it first time around. Did what i was supposed to do and looked at directions and did it. Did notice a change really, this is when i added the fuel wires

Yea they do now.

No it should come with it, some of the older ones had the master-chip go out and BMS was sending new ones.

Yes, the OEM ones will blow out. I always go for the HKS M45il, no need to gap.

Yes

@@twn2rbo so regapping the racing spark plugs/ installing doesn’t really affect the car’s performance without the jb4 or am I wrong like would I run into issue if I put those spark plugs in without the jb4

@@aeroekins5415 don’t mess with the gap on the HKS M45il, you can double check them to ensure they are all consistent, but it’s HKS and they are usually perfect. I never messed with the gap and never had any issues. They come around .0028 which is fine for boost up to 28lbs. I even tested 3 aggressive lozic ECU tunes one which pushed 28lbs and never had an issue. People that gap their plugs to what Terry at BMS recommends .0024 or whatever end up having occasional issues. That’s just my 2 cents.

@@twn2rbo okay sweet man! Lol don’t blow and get too big I love the insta replies 🤣

@@aeroekins5415 I’ll always respond to the Stinger videos when I can since you guys helped me build my channel and brand, once things pick up for me I may end up getting another one for a project car!

Yes, follow each step closely in this vid

Are you going to Import Faceoff on OH this month? I’m a little backed up on content right now but I’ll def be there . This summer we can all organize something though

Not effected under normal driving circumstances. Significantly lower with e30 mix as I tend to get on it more. Map 2 with 93 octane I’ve avg 28 (until I floor it). But to answer your question it really just depends on your foot. I’ve had as low as 10avg (cold weather and map 3) and as good as 28.9avg driving normal in warmer weather ( more highway driving).

Yes, especially if you plan to run any aftermarket intake or exhaust setup, intakes alone you shouldn’t have any issues , but intakes + exhaust you will need at least map1 to keep it from going into limp mode

how about warrenty? Ik you can just remove it, but is it worth the risk. I have full bumper to bumper up to 150,000 miles and a little nervous but i want MORE lol@@twn2rbo

If you don’t get the adapters that are out now, you have to posi tap the factory red 02 wires , which some dealerships look out for. I ran electrical tape over mine so it looked factory then I got the adapters from BMS

@twn2rbo OH will look into it. Thank you! Debating if I should JB4 or wait for a few years. I am satisfied with my 2023 G70 3.3t sports prestige at the moment. There will be a time that I will thirst for more.

500 wheel or crank? Assuming crank since you compared to the 365, you can get that with intakes, exhaust and a tune running e30 mix easy. $2k

@@twn2rbo thanks mate do U know anyone who does that in Sydney

@@Mundoormaadan I do not, I would jump on a local forum or Google, surely there is!

Depends on the dealer, but generally yes. Out of all mods, this would be the one to void it. I’ve heard of some dealers installing them and if done by them, it wouldn’t void. Then there’s situations like this video they can void it with no tune installed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ia_HJM_fyNI.html

@@twn2rbo Thank you 👍🤠 Merry Christmas

@@bryanferns2571 Merry Christmas bro 👊

The oem plugs will cause some issues top end, I would run the HKS M45iL , no need to touch the gap on those, but I would still check them. I ran those plugs twice with way more aggressive tunes compared to the JB4 and always had clean logs, I didn’t touch the gap. Map 3 + you def want to do the plugs first

@@twn2rbo Thx for the reply. Unfortately where I am in Canada at the moment. I do not have access to 93 octane & no E85, best I can get is 91. Some people told me to use octane booster, but I'm apphrenisve about doing that. So I guess I'll only be able to run map 2, or will 91 be good enough for map 3?