Killing A Duramax Pt 11: 852 HP!

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With new 50-over injectors, Gale pushes the stock Duramax L5P to 852 horsepower!
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Denso 50-over injectors
2:25 Banks iDash DataMonster
3:50 711 horsepower
4:20 Analyzing data
7:40 852 horsepower
11:30 Reviewing the iDash data
21:20 Turbocharger compressor
24:35 Bigger pipes needed
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@johnpaice8481 4 года назад

Once again gale shares a lifetime of tuning knowledge for free , what other company does that ......AMAZING .........!........Thankyou 😊

@jacobwalls452 4 года назад

PFI speed and fasterproms

@randr10 4 года назад

Gale, if you don't have a PhD yet, some University needs to issue you an honorable one in hot rodding. These are some of the most well controlled experiments I've ever seen on engine modification and limit testing. I'm not an engineer, but I am a bit of a gearhead and I'm learning so much just binge watching this series. I just started playing around with boosted gasoline engines over the last few years (Ford Ecoboost stuff) and this helps me understand what's going on immensely. You measure everything, and there's very little left to interpretation with your methods, which can be applied to gas engines as well as you've said earlier in this series. You know exactly what's wrong, why it's wrong, and how to fix it (and if that's even possible with current equipment or if something needs further modification). Fantastic. This confirms a lot of things I've been suspicious of for a long time and just pours so much knowledge on top. I'm also pretty impressed with this Duramax long block. It's a pretty stout unit. The GM powertrain guys have really been knocking it out of the park over the last couple decades. All the OEMs have actually.

@Random12231 4 года назад

For someone that grew up watching gasoline engine tuning videos, my brain is having trouble comprehending these diesel AFR's. I had to rewind a few times to make sure I heard Gale say 17:1 was as RICH as he wanted to go. Awesome videos, keep up the great work. 👍

@bwatt1383 4 года назад

I feel like I'm in the works coolest classroom everytime he puts a video up

@andylewis7360 4 года назад

Me too! And I’m not even into diesels!! LOL

@ronaldgast1359 4 года назад

The best, great knowledge, very smart.

@ericrobison8591 4 года назад

Where are the "Let's Bang This Turkey" T-shirts?! Gotta get that merch.

@outspokeninsider752 3 года назад

#turkeybangers

@jjames5928 4 года назад

I love it Dyno Tech : I Pulled it we were getting close to limits Gale: I dont care let's bang this turkey

@victorburns3620 4 года назад

Love the little changes in the Dyno Techs face....

@G5questman 4 года назад

I laughed so hard! I don't care about the cylinder pressure! I don't care. It wasn't one of my limits. 😂

@kentrushton6135 4 года назад

@Lassi Kinnunen Well lets go 900!

@eriklarson9137 4 года назад

Do you guys know anything about tuning other than this page? Making 852 out of a Dirtmax is what guys in their garage do with Ebay/china parts. Gale should be starting at 1000hp or he isn't even trying. Lol! The Internet is real. People can google now. Pretending you are doing something amazing doesn't work these days. At least not with folks who can reason. :)

@jjames5928 4 года назад

@@eriklarson9137 well actually I do . Not on Duramax or Powersroke but I do work with Cummins in a daily basis , and someone is living inside your head rent free. If that's how you think tuning works. The Cummins for instance 100% over injectors , dual CP3 , studs , larger intercooler , compound over stock / compound no VGT on manifold , springs and valves Were getting upwards of 700 on compound over stock And 825 is the average on compounds without a factory VGT on the manifold None of those are "eaby/Chinese parts" Just because someone slaps a bottle to their Honda civic dosnt mean it's a 400hp car , it means its gonna blow sooner or later. What Gale banks is doing is Pushing the limits of stock components , upgrading the ones that fail and push it further.... you obviously know nothing about tuning

@knowntalker135 4 года назад

Can we just be thankful Gale Banks is making these awesome videos, very informational and makes me want to be an engine researcher with all his knowledge and understanding of numbers!

@tylerw4593 4 года назад

This man has forgotten more about engine tuning than most tuners have ever known. GOAT for sure.

@liamcooper6721 2 года назад

wouldnt it be great to even know half of what he has forgotten?

@rambladesmanmoe6291 4 года назад

Thanks for these videos. I’m a retired Caterpillar engine tech. I would dyno test my overhauls so these are fun to watch. My Dyno was probably 50 years old , light years less fancy than yours. Oh, and just took delivery of my 2020 GMC 3500hd Denali yesterday. Exciting times.

@growlith6969 4 года назад

Just wow. Never gave any thought to the combustion chamber pressures needing to be highest after tdc. Makes total sense though, probably saves a lot of stress on the rod bearings and boosts efficiency by quite a few percentage points. You da man Gale!

@RHD919 4 года назад

Gale and crew you guys should make a video explaining how the dyno is controlled, that switch he is turning on by the gauges when your doing a pull stuff like that. I bet alot of people would like knowing what's going on and hows it accomplished.

@NBSV1 4 года назад

Rusty Hill He’s hitting a button by the gauges to start the data logging. Otherwise these dynos are almost always basically a large water pump as the load and have a computer controlled valve to adjust the pump flow. More flow is more load and thereby takes more power. They also sometimes have a sensor to measure twist and translate that into torque. The actual dyno is pretty simple, but all the sensors and data collection is what gets complicated.

@iTrove 4 года назад

I am learning so much. Thank you. It is interesting the 711 sweet spot you have found. Someone should freeze that in time and start duration testing. That could become an incredible stock build if the things like filters and electrical issues are stable. Great series Mr, Banks.

@siclt1 4 года назад

Geez the torque at idle is more then a civic can produce

@abdelfettahayadi5642 4 года назад

More than that neon too?

@siclt1 4 года назад

Abdelfettah ayadi yup I’m only at 466.3 TQ@ 3100 RPM. E85 is one hell of a fuel

@siclt1 4 года назад

Aidan Barrett I edited it to help you understand

@MrRack911 4 года назад

That bottom end will go over 1k no problem. We been flogging ours over that. Push it gale.

@myselfremade 4 года назад

At what RPM?

@MrRack911 4 года назад

Peaks at 3600 but we run this truck over 4k rpm

@Mebob2001 4 года назад

i cant wait to see what you do with the new build :)

@MrRack911 4 года назад

Stay tuned ... 🙃

@johnwehunt4305 4 года назад

Hypereutetic pistons is scary at that power level. The crankshaft is nodular iron. I will not push mine past 650hp.

@chriswilson433 4 года назад

I love Aaron’s expressions!!

@terryelliott1785 4 года назад

100% over injectors, Compound turbo setup and send it.

@TheRubtastic 4 года назад

Much more to learn by going up incrementally. Remember, Banks has to develop a whole range of products from mild to wild.

@terryelliott1785 4 года назад

@@TheRubtastic Very true from a developer's standpoint looking for all possibilities to develope products and more importantly, make money. But just mechanically speaking, I'm curious to see what gives first.

@timothybayliss6680 4 года назад

100% injectors really draw on the high pressure pump too. I like compound but have the turbos feed the Lycoming blower. It won't be as effecient as two stage turbo but it will be way more responsive. The twin screw makes boost from idle and they weren't spinning it close to maximum speed. Having both stages of forced induction working at about a 3:1 pressure ratio wouldn't be too hard and would keep turbine drive pressure way down. 3:1 as in 44 pounds atmosphere absolute out of the turbo compressor into the twin screw, another 3:1 compression there, so total manifold pressure is about 130psi absolute or about 115psi boost. The issue is the turbo compressors are way too small for this.

@griffinpierce7691 4 года назад

Compounds lead to rods on the floor

@Aseutester 4 года назад

@@griffinpierce7691 Because of hot inlet air temps usually?!

@mightyfinejonboy 4 года назад

What a great double act, love the facial expressions of the dyno guy. Great work and videos thank you :-)

@chevyfan82 4 года назад

Thats impressive! I bet you will exceed 900hp with the upgrades you plan on doing.

@1badk20 4 года назад

the L5P should handle 1,000 Crank Hp with stock internals

@jamesretired5979 4 года назад

More fuel, more air, less restriction, sounds about right!

@user-vd9fz5ey9m 4 года назад

James E. Wagner JR. that’s not what he said at all.

@jmax.6587 4 года назад

@@user-vd9fz5ey9m lean means excess air. So not enough fuel. That's why he said to go 100 over injectors.

@user-vd9fz5ey9m 4 года назад

jmax. 65 With the oversized injectors it took less fuel to make the same power that’s what I was referring to. His ratio dropped and made more power meaning lean, less fuel like I said

@user-vd9fz5ey9m 4 года назад

jmax. 65 I see what your saying tho I worded it poorly to make you think I was saying he needs less fuel not more

@jmax.6587 4 года назад

@@user-vd9fz5ey9m maybe. I typed that comment at like 3am so yeah I probably wasnt thinking the best. But yeah I think you wre right.

@ronjlwhite8058 4 года назад

Gale...my dude...I started watchin this vid and decided to see how far back your channel went back. 13 years is what I discovered and what a treat. Stacy, Pat, Mike, Sam and Jay Leno were all there. What a blast from the past. I watched Trucks and Horse Power all the time. Watching them clips reminded me that I remember you being in those programs. What a treat seeing them clips.

@tylerhayes4879 4 года назад

I look every night to see if there’s a new video. I love how your doing it, your an inspiration to the diesel world. Keep them coming, we need to see a Cummins and a power stroke in the future to compare what these engines can withstand!!!

@rivett40 4 года назад

Turbo,5 inch exhaust, new designed up pipes, throw the kitchen sink in love the work

@molak34 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing the development of this engine! I love the way you enjoy your work!

@neo1231 4 года назад

GB is the most intense R&D out there! I have yet to see any other company put this much time and effort into developing products. Always pumped when a new Video comes out! Keep up the good work Gale!

@whippingstar 4 года назад

First time watching Banks and this was an absolute clinic. Well done.

@rileymannion5301 4 года назад

I cant wait to apply all the knowledge I've learned here I feel like I'm going to have a serious edge over competing shops seeing as I'll actually look as deep as banks

@VeggiePower303 Год назад

The Data Monster is insanely useful. I feel like I have learned more about Diesels in this series of videos then the previous 13 years. No joke. And the Air Density is REALLY where all the "safe" Horsepower and Efficiency comes from. Boost pressure is small potatoes and a stupid way of going about it. Thank you Mr. Banks for this amazing education. I Will definitely get your Data-Monster package at some point.

@bankspower Год назад

Tap this link when you are ready 👉🏻 bankspower.com/idash

@robnovak9796 4 года назад

Please continue these videos! Sharing your many years of expertise with us all is just amazing. Not only are they informative but you unlike so many are fun to watch and listen to. Thank you.

@kyle7063 4 года назад

This is what it’s like when you have this many resources available to you. You can dial in and fine tune every millisecond of run time. Looking forward to what you decide to put on in next episode.

@dougskramstad5237 4 года назад

This series is just amazing! So cool to see.

@hendo337 4 года назад

Rewatched everything and I'm back...Gale is like the Jimmy Stewart of HP. Loving this series, loving the new products and I can't stop thinking of an exciting new world this data logging is going to open up. I want to work for Gale Banks.

@coalwagon 4 года назад

This page deserves more subscribers.. good job guys!

@paulsalvestrin7253 4 года назад

I have always told my customers that engine building and development is about finding reductions and if you make reductions your gains will increase.

@DaCaveman84 4 года назад

Paul Salvestrin same with audio production! Professional audio engineers and technicians will 95% of the time make only reduction in EQ chains. The only time I’ve seen gain increases are for very specific cases in regards to tone.

@gcflower99 4 года назад

The 711 hp with 50 over injectors would be a great lecture for the EPA. Probably cleaner than anything they mandate from the factory, with all the after-processing, DEF squirting, DPF clogging and regens that has to happen to make a stock L5P meet their specs.

@griffinpierce7691 4 года назад

850hp on a stock high pressure pump is very very impressive

@mikemcinnis12 4 года назад

He thinks he can get 900-950 with 100% over injectors

@joelmellentine3641 3 года назад

Great video! Loved the way this guy breaks it down.

@AndyFromm 4 года назад

200% injectors Headers & up pipes Compound turbos Coolers after each stage

@samjohnson4014 4 года назад

Great job me banks. Loveing this series. Can’t wait for more

@rogersiples3335 3 года назад

Your plan sounds logical. Can't wait for the results. Thank you.

@bankspower 3 года назад

Fingers crossed!

@rockhardinc8510 4 года назад

Thank you Gale, you are a blessing to us

@vastylebbq5203 4 года назад

Mr Banks, thanks for the most engaging content available. Love it. My you live long and keep your awsome attitude.

@MississippiMudMX 4 года назад

i wish we could hear the exhaust

@TechViewOpinions 4 года назад

Enjoying the science and engineering involved!

@w140 4 года назад

Your enthusiasm, sir, really shows by your true excitement👍 unlike the second guy on the dyno😄

@jose15238 4 года назад

This guys knows his stuff. Im a automotive engineering student and we looks at all this parameters in class in depth

@josephandreuccetti8043 4 года назад

Gale please make more in-depth videos and longer ones! Your a gem to the community and we need. Ore of you!!!!!

@TheDesertdawg1 4 года назад

More CowBell !!!

@bill2178 4 года назад

I've gotta fever and the only prescription is more cowbell

@MJPilote 4 года назад

This is some VERY interesting data, I was hoping you would give more cylinder pressure data and you did! Would be interesting to see the two pulls cylinder pressure graphics side by side to see the point of injection change as you changed the injectors. Gale you are the number one diesel guy in the world, as you give out the honest data on what's what!

@rodyjperez7659 9 месяцев назад

You got it figured out! Add the biggest cold air induction box available!

@brackoncorbridge1966 4 года назад

It's just awesome watching banks back in time. It's like he's a kid in a free for all candy store. Just goes to show it's true boys don't grow up they just get bigger cooler toys. Thanks banks for all the knowledge.

@karenashcraft8812 4 года назад

"No exhaust is the best exhaust" Corkey Bell, Maximum Boost.

@kennethkoontz5036 4 года назад

Enjoy the series, keep it up !!

@alancameron2433 4 года назад

You are on the right track for more power.Little by little increments and check your oil is the best at all times(lubricicity).Amazing technical show keep up the good work.Volumetric efficiency is also a very important equation.G-D bless America.

@Carstuff111 4 года назад

I can't wait to see how far you get this set up. I hope you find a way to clear out some of the exhaust back pressure issue.

@cassiuspuckett8789 4 года назад

Very interesting point on the injectors. I would have thought that the new injectors would have been big enough for what you are trying to do. But as we just seen, you've run the limit on those injectors. Can hardly wait to see what's next.....

@johomerza 4 года назад

They were he hit over 800.....48 shy of the next goal.

@Pyrotec_nick 4 года назад

Always love these videos! As someone that works in the industry Gales knowledge is fantastic! I need more!! Water injection to pull temps down?

@patarisman434 4 года назад

Love sitting here watching this. That's pretty dang good so far the way shes being pushed. I love duramax. And would really like to keep following this to see how much she can take. It's all in the knowledge. If you didnt know what you were doing it coulda grenaded by now. Nice to learn about how to push with all the parameters you do so you can actually get out of it what it can do!

@ChadBIsRacing 4 года назад

Gale, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@ABH313 4 года назад

This was the most interesting RU-vid video I've seen in a long time! So we'll explained, crazy the GM left that much HP on the table...

@johnbar4126 4 года назад

Alan Hale I daily drive a stock l5p and it has balls, very enjoyable to drive. I can only imagine what 800 horse would fill like 🤯

@Dr_Xyzt 4 года назад

I have a feeling that Gale is giving us useful information here because he loves combustion so much, he doesn't want us to give it up for electric. In the big picture, with the right planning, we can have our cake and eat it too. After all, that's why we made the cake in the first place.

@xmotoxchamp4u 4 года назад

the man is the man with no questions asked. the knowledge this man has it unreal. I would love to work along side of MR. banks. and learn from him.

@samdoesthefunstuff7122 4 года назад

It was nice to see Jay Leno drop by the shop 1:54

@hendo337 4 года назад

Him and Gale are friends. Gale did the Tank Car's turbo setup.

@dadeftones7 4 года назад

This is amazing testing 🙌

@TripAMD 4 года назад

Have trust your in apprentice Gale...the dude seems to be in tune with your thought process. Great video btw👍

@speed185187 4 года назад

All great ideas Mr. Banks. A good water to air intercooler would help cool things down on fuel only.

@jedrabo3847 3 года назад

I like Mr. Gale Banks reaction with the 852hp. He's like a kid in a candy store. That's diesel passion.👍🏻👍🏻🇵🇭

@bradcallaghan8099 4 года назад

Bigger turbo, bigger injectors and bigger piping. I think you will see close or just over 1000 HP! Love your videos Gale!

@markwarren3156 4 года назад

If staying with the current compressor size going to the next size up exhaust housing might be beneficial. This is a great series I've learned so much more than I thought I knew by watching this and the monster truck series.

@KinderYacht 4 года назад

Shes an air Compressor. To get more air in, you gotta let it breathe out. Ohms law similar. Small conductors with large demand =Resistance=Heat = loss of efficiency. Great work Gale. Love my GMC Duramax and Glad we ( and GM) has you helping get the most out of these great engines. Eric

@stephenhensley7004 4 года назад

Am curious to see if opening the exhaust will gain enough efficiency to allow room for intake and/or turbo tweaking to take advantage of it. Might want to set a horse power alarm to 900 as well! Really enjoy the education and fun of your videos. Thank you Team Banks.

@hendo337 4 года назад

Oh wow, this came up in my suggestions after a Richard Holdner video. I am hooked, I never realized how cool Gale Banks really is. Subbed and hitting the back catalog of vids. It would be pretty cool if Gale and Holdner did some collaboration.

@rockingarchangel 4 года назад

I love the technical breakdowns. Amazing stuff

@veraneio-ow2gb 4 года назад

I think you might need a bigger turbo there, friend. Awesome content, enjoying all the over in Brazil!!

@bendavid9684 4 года назад

Gale - you are awesome - keep pushing!

@jacobmoses3712 4 года назад

I very much enjoyed Part 12 when it was up for a couple of days. Hopefully there is a new revised version in the works

@muskyelondragon 4 года назад

Another class with the master

@The1m16 4 года назад

I love that Gale takes the time to show us the numbers and the science behind what a stock engine can take and how to get it to the limit. But, what I really want to know or see tested is how much power and torque you can make with an intact emissions system and make it as efficient as possible. Yea, watching an essentially deleted Duramax make over 900HP from the crank is fun. But what's the fun if I can't put those parts Gale is using in my truck and have the same numbers.

@twcstransam 4 года назад

Mr. Banks, you have some very lucky employees getting to work with you. Your products have been worth every penny I have ever spent on them. My best example is my Cummins powered Motorcoach it couldn't pull hills bigger than a speed bump at more than 45 mph now I have to watch the pyrometer and hold the EGT to 1300 or less to keep the engine coolant 230 or less, if I didn't care I could pull most grades at 60 MPH easy. Best thing I did to that 180 HP Cummins was add the Banks Power Pak. Thanks for great products, if you ever need a computer nerd that can follow your thoughts with ease on motors please hit me up I would enjoy experiencing your knowledge first hand.

@laurenu7311 4 года назад

Thank you for the video!

@rydplrs71 4 года назад

More air, more fuel and more exhaust flow. I think you covered the list.

@timothybayliss6680 4 года назад

The dyno cell exhaust is actually a restriction now. Some serious air moving through that engine.

@srich609 4 года назад

Incredible video

@vSAHARAx 4 года назад

I wish you were in Australia. Doing this testing to a 1VD-FTV aka Toyota’s 4.5L single & twin turbo V8 Diesel engines. I can’t wait to see this lift the head!! 😍😍😍

@robertweedman1445 4 года назад

Awesome video series. Cant wait to see the exhaust upgrades. Like others, I would love to hear the exhaust note outside under load?

@jimmyallen2771 4 года назад

Hey Gale, I can't wait to get the next video. After you finish with the L5P project I hope you will start your next project on the Duramax 3L straight 6 diesel engine.

@ericgilhart5951 4 года назад

Yes that would be great

@doctordifferentialspeedsho9506 4 года назад

Put a bigger turbo onto it. Unfortunately you’re long to need injectors to supply the more boost but y’all got it. Nice work please keep me coming!!

@alexaltrichter1597 4 года назад

I've driven my 2006 duramax LBZ for nearly 400k miles. Aside from normal maintenance oil,air,fuel filters I've only replaced the glow plugs once. It's not tuned at all and runs as good as it did new. I'm an old fart so I don't have to melt the tires at every stop sign. I can't imagine a pickup with 800 + hp.

@geoffmooregm 4 года назад

Lucky. You got the last of the pre-emissions breed

@LiveLaughLove9255 4 года назад

Geoff Moore I have a 2007 lbz,that’s the last model

@alexaltrichter1597 4 года назад

@@LiveLaughLove9255 You are correct 2007 was the last year for the LBZ. And last of the "Classic" Silverado also.2008 started the new body in the 2500 and 3500. 2007 was the first year for the 1500 new body,it was actually the second half of 2007. They had both 2007 body styles in the 1500 series on dealer lots.

@jayraybon4478 4 года назад

Hell yeah Mr.Banks you are a Genius

@MWR-lg9qp 4 года назад

I really love watching you work. I'm a data junky as well and this all makes sense. Put a 700HP kit together for my 2020 please.

@jonathoncatterson8901 4 года назад

You just need an exhaust and turbo and you'll make 700 no problem lol

@jasonsejkora4578 4 года назад

I'm excited. Kinda want to do this to my TDI jetta tho.. Don't have a diesel truck. :D

@HorrorUberAlles 4 года назад

"Killing a TDI" when?! 🤣

@Garth2011 4 года назад

It would be something to see the exhaust flow porting from the valves to the flange on the heads. If I recall, they do not look like they are big on flow design in stock form.

@Darrellsrelm 4 года назад

Great video!

@colinhoppes1167 4 года назад

Gayle you will need to stud the cylinder heads at 252psi cylinder pressure I want to see how far you can go with it. A larger turbo will be more efficient and S and S 100over injector you could possibly hit 1000 hp. Love the videos wish I had your intercooler kit for my truck. Nice series very informational.

@longshot789 4 года назад

This is so informative

@cumminsdieseljeep97 4 года назад

Your choke point is the transition from the exhaust manifolds to the turbo inlet cast piece. Much larger injectors will allow you to make more hp at a lower rpm, also allowing a bigger timing window to play with and cyl pressure will go down as well. No need to change the turbo yet.

@orangetruckman 4 года назад

Love the data Gale! To answer your question, what I would do...well, in one of your previous videos about inter-cooling comes to mind as well as your thoughts about redesigning exhaust manifolds and bigger injectors. Would a different turbine wheel or turbocharger be needed 🤔 perhaps. If the turbine inlet temp. is lowered and the exhaust is flowing more efficiently, plus the fuel is there- I’d say that turkeys been buttered 😋

@MinchevaLs 4 года назад

Great job!

@Jokemeister1 4 года назад

A bunch of people are suggesting compound turbos but I'm not seeing an intercooler on the current setup unless that's what the orange hoses are maybe delivering cooling water too. If not already fitted, surely that's the next step with bigger injectors to get more fuel and increased MAD. I seem to recall that also helps EGT and gets the turbo pressures where you want them, ie. lower exhaust manifold pressure vs higher inlet pressure,ie. turbo efficiency.

@gregwilliams5173 4 года назад

If you mentioned the exhaust manifold itself, I missed it. Agree w/the 5" piping & larger injectors. Is the exh manifold a restriction at all? New casting on intake manifold to reduce the # of redirection the incoming air has to negotiate? Have we (you) maxed out the air cooler? LOVE these! Keep'em comin'!!