Killmonger Vs Guardians Of The Multiverse | Killmonger Vs Zola Vision | What if...? S01 E09 

The mind stone was built inside of vision, he cant take it out of vision since his body is vibranium, unless your thanos that i

@@gtfomyswamp he has the power stone.

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@@gtfomyswamp then what other 5 infinity stones used for? That's just dumb.

@@greatninja2590 he has the reality stone, could’ve just zip zop it into the gauntlet Unless the mind stone was still connected to the entanglement of zola and ultron

Thanos was a man with a mission. Ultron was a bot with ambition. Killmoger was man out for blood. When you hve a mission, you are rarely taken off track. Ultron wanted to end life on Earth and start evolution over. With the stones, he saw the universe. He could never be content with one mission. After all, he was a copy of Tony in many ways.

@@VA_Nightshade tony made ultron for peace. there cannot be peace without equality. and no two beings are alike, there will always be war. but when theres no one beside ultron. then there will be peace everlasting.

@@AnkitSharma-qm7sg That is also a fair disection

@@AnkitSharma-qm7sg Bhai lekin yeh toh Vision hai 🤓

Thanos didn't mean general temptation, he meant temptation to revert things back - temptation for himself not for someone else. He didn't want to undo what he did and didn't want to leave a chance for him to do it (or for someone to take it from him somehow and revert). He wasn't thinking about people abusing the stone in some other way, as he only cared about his mission.

But the only difference is that with the stone you can rewrite reality how you want it without having any consequences.

@@Michael_Myers2000 hmm that actually works you know...idk they forgor 💀 ig

@@Michael_Myers2000 I'm assuming because of the fact that Strange's universe collapsed I'm assuming the stones can't fix that problem

This is not supreme strange, its *Strange Supreme* , supreme strange is different, lives on earth 838

Bro supreme strange is dead

The suit vibranuim

Not just that, Ultronzola and Killmonger on the orb kinda mirrors Beyonder and Molecule Man to me

Yeah I was thinking the same

So many references

Once he stole the Beyonder’s powers in the first Secret Wars, Doom was so overpowered. They had to literally trick him out of his powers. It was so cool to read

You mean five then

Ultron vision has to be my favorite, not gonna lie.

"White Vision" sounds very weird out of context

@@yesnomaybeso8633 just because he has rights

The original vision already is the white one It just changed his body color.

Zola still has one in his head and killmonger would probably just break the pocket demention

@@crazygiraffe3002 once they didn't have the stones on them they stood no chance. If strange teleported the stones, he could have easily beat them 2v1

@@blacknite8060 well my gusse is they were trying to recover from being almost wiped out from the explosion created from the multiversal warlord robot supremacist

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@@blacknite8060 tell marvel about your comment

I think there are two scenarios. Either Strange Supreme stop the time inside the sphere or infinity stones provides unlimited energy for both of them.

I think it’s a singular moment and it does progress because they both are still bound to time

@@mrpepper8383 so neither of them wouldn't run out of fuel or energy.

@@CamSiv996 correct

I think time is relative to their dimension. To them the struggle will only last a moment but to us it could take millions of years.

Honestly, that really bugged me. Like a lot. Because in Loki we’re told that the stones only work in their own universe and outside of it, they’re just that, stones. I was really bothered by this throughout the whole episode, but I did like the story.

It's nemesis infinity stones the strongest stones variant in the multiverse all they had to do is to find the ego stone and nemesis will be resurrected

Cause it's fiction.

@@areshernandez6201 the tva is like a nuetral zone that’s outside the multiverse or something like that

What did you expect from marvel writers?

fatality

😂😂true

Flash point: flash vs reverse flash, Batman wins

The Watcher wins. He played fifth dimensional chess.

@@robertjackson6937 imao

that's because he foresee them winning and strange supreme trapping them, all of that is planned by him, recruiting Killmonger who is untrustable instead of stronger being? he recruite killmonger because he foresee him betraying. he basically foresee everything in the fight which is why he didn't interfere in the fight so it didn't change what he foresee.

@@wizzell yup. It's all according to his plan

he lost to ultron because Ultron is stronger than him + he couldn't foresee himself to see what will happen and to avoid it. he is powerful enough but he isn't powerful than Ultron because Ultron can use the stone full potential, because he's a unique and powerful robot that can go through the internet. when he kill Thanos and collect the stone he sees all things in the universe, making him all-knowing and knows how to use the stone full potential + know how to make that powerful exoskeleton armor (stronger than adamantium) to prevent himself from getting damaged because of him using the stones full potential. the stones is the second most powerful thing in the universe (first is the heart of the universe) and Ultron used it's full potential. Thanos was weak because his knowledge is limited unlike Ultron who is a robot without limit. infinity thanos is just a very small fraction of the stones and it's powerful enough to stand against the avengers

Cause it was easier and he had more knowledge also his body can’t support the stones

@@gamers-xh3uc bro killmonger body support the stones

@@nahuelrodriguez7069 with that suit, and I think Strange could only support the Stones after he had already absorve entities

Why not both

@@renancappelline491 sounds like a really lazy writing lol. If that how it works, Tony Stark shouldn't had problems using all the infinity stones in the end of end game. Or is it because of vibranium? Idek anymore🗿

The suit probably...

I mean think about it, the armor probably allowed the radiation of the energy output to go equally around his body, so that's probably how he was easily able to handle the infinity stones... Just thought I'd clear that up! 😁👍

@@everettcosta1848 fair point.

@@sammalone7881 thanks!😁👍

Killmonger did say he was a fan of anime

Name of comic version?

@@zeroguap947 I think they just meant the What If comics.

@@zeroguap947Really ? WHAT FUCKING IF

And if you've seen Spiderman no way home, this pocket dimension looks similar to the one which he trapped the spell when helping Spiderman..

Strange Supreme didnt have anything to do with the plan, he jsut pieced it together at the end. He spells it out for us when he tells the Watcher "you foresaw every moment"

@@stephengrant4841 So he just follows what the Watcher said ?

@@DraMiaouh He didnt know the plan going into the fight, he only figures it out at the end.

@@stephengrant4841 He is a good friend

Bro why are ppl so stupid. 124 ppp agreeing with something thatmeve happened... Smh

What the fuck is this contradicting sentence?

Ok...

bruh

@@TheVenusBoy spiler for Spiderman no way home

@im right youre wrong You're the one who made the assumption that he was angry because of race bro 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

They literally do

​@@mr.trouble827I think they got returned to their demensions now

That makes sense- Ultron's suit doesn't have a slot for the mind stone, because it's already part of his body. So when Killmonger took Ultron's armour, he didn't get the mind stone, because the armour doesn't have a slot for the mind stone.

Maybe because of the vibranium suit. He never touched the stones. But I am wondering how he is able to keep up with zola after the stones get separated from his body. Zola still has the mind stone so he can fight but how killmonger with no stones is keeping up with him?

@@codingmaster008 none of that happened in No way Home

@@turklander4582 ikr 😂😂

@@turklander4582 yea

@@codingmaster008 what?

Why does watcher choose them I mean their are a lot of powerful beams in multiverse which can help to defeat ultra vision but no he choose 4 powerless characters and a idiot thor He could choose many captain Marvel , Wanda , thor , Dr strange from different universes then he could easily defect vision Idiot watcher

@@arindammishra2329 then u Would not see a good fighting

@@arindammishra2329 emotions. They love their people or place so

That's why EVERY adventuring party needs a mage, duh. ;)

this episode has poor writing in so many way

Zola probably didn't yet understand how to use the stones at that moment. He had literally just woke up from infecting Ultron

@@juanin200 exactly, Zola could barely figure out the tesseract in his first appearance . Let alone instantly all 5 stones after waking up.

Well they're teasing Ultron's return in the mcu, maybe they're talking about this specific Ultron who figured out a way to escape.

Zola has idea how to use it

Not evil. Just arrogant. But at least time alone and dealing with tremendous loss humbled him.

because all of this multiverse things, somehow marvel could just bring another tchalla from another universe you know. or they just make shuri as the new black panther.

@@ravenleo6241 Mmm. From random scraps I’ve heard they’ll need to recast either way.

They’re not the same caliber of antagonist. Loki’s motives for being evil were rectified. He didn’t want to live in his brother’s shadow and wanted his father’s love. In the end he got both. Killmonger wants the liberation of black people from the shackles of white supremacy and won’t stop until that happens. Nothing is going to sway him .

@@spectraphantom9374 marvel made killmonger too based and needed to tack some abusive or power hungry characterization to make him "the bad guy"

@@techissus7449 that’s exactly what I’ve been saying. Because at the end of the day. Killmonger still got his way. I guess killmonger was also drove by revenge so we don’t know what was his greater motive. His want for revenge or him wanting to liberate ,

Maybe he's siphoning off the stones during the tug of war with Zola.

Pretty sure the pocket dimension locks them in a singular point of time, so nothing will ever change with them.

probably not MCU lol, there's a billions of universe in the multiverse(the word infinite is often uncomprehendable by us weak being with such a limited mind) and it'll be too convenient for them to conquer the 1 universe they didn't knew even existed which is the MCU.

But that also means that Zola and killmonger would be free. He needs to find a way to get rid of them first.

@@Michael_Myers2000 After Doctor Strange takes the stones, they are nothing. Even with stones in their hands, things are difficult, even Ultron couldn't stop him.

@@RedDot95 true

Seems like Strange Supreme and Zombie Wanda are in DS2.

@@jonathanmong4927 I was told it was Sinister Strange not Supreme Strange which is that Strange we’re watching from What If

@@julianas.3352 who's Sinister Strange

Sadly no, Dr Strange 2 has a different plot

@@jonathanmong4927 no that defender strange and SINISTER STRANGE

Christine's death was an absolute point of time, bound to happen regardless of anything. Didn't u see that ep 4 of strange in what if?

@@shantibhatt8104 so the death happened, that the absolute point. And after her death she could be revived. Since the death happened

Better yet, it's possible to create an exact clone of Christine with Reality Stone.

@@shantibhatt8104 Dr Strange was trying to reverse an exact point in time when he should have been finding a way to resurrect Christine.

Why didn't Watcher just send Supreme Strange to a universe where there is Christine without Stephen.. just like he sent Natasha to a different universe. Strange Supreme needed his happy ending after he single handedly saved (with Guardians) the entire Multiverse.

@@ajthapa3587 he wanted his world and her back not a copy. his whole agenda was saving her life. walking away from what little of his world remained would be admitting defeat

And beat Supreme Strange?

Multiverse in madness?

Things just got out of hand.

What they gonna do. Beat strange?

I’m not sure if they could work together Both are too power hungry and they’re both smart enough to know that the other will inevitably betray them

I always assumed that they planned for him to betray them so when Zola went rogue with ultron they could fight and trap them in the bubble

Yeah, what rustbone said. The Watcher knew that Zola was the only way for the heroes to overcome Ultron (he's just too powerful with the Infinity Stones for them to beat Ultron conventionally), but he also knew that as soon as Zola succeeded he would steal the Stones for himself. The only way to prevent this was to have a second betrayer in the group trying to steal the Stones as well, at which point the Watcher knew Strange would figure out what the Watcher wanted him to do and seal the two of them away forever.

apparently not.

That would be cool

Lol

He used the ultron drone head to get the armor.The armor and head is from the same universe as the stones.

@@flashbring they're still being wielded by someone outside their native universe not like the armor is sentient

@@prodigyweeb8986 Since he has an Ultron sentry's head, technically the armour IS sentient

It’s writing mistake, the writer themselves already admitted it

Wait but how could Tony use the stones if all the stones were from different timelines than Tony? Or are timelines different than Universes?

Correct😢 it's touch my heart

Good observation

He did say he likes anime

That frieza pose tho

Because he's not a regular human and vibranium.

@@FatherAirBorne7 I thought he was a regular human, what us Killmonger then? And even in vibranium, it is still the Infinity Stones, Thanos got a gauglet made from a way rarer and stronger, more special material than vibranium and even he took a moment to get used to getting +1 stone at a time.

@@unknownname8591 heart-shaped herb, space metal, alien Magic and Thanos is a mutant of his own species.

@@FatherAirBorne7 Thanos is a celestial I thought Edit: sorry, Eternal.

@@unknownname8591 yes he's still a mutant just like how humans have mutants eternals have mutants.

Me too. Never trust a guy who is blind for power.😠

You can't really trust this guy lol.