This is straight up what happens in a toxic family when you try to set boundaries and they won’t let you. They push you and push you and it brings out this rage in you and then they turn you into a bad guy.
Exactly. Expecting these types of people to calm down, have a normal conversation and for everyone to take accountability for themselves is expecting waaaaay too much. There's a reason certain families are toxic and will most probably always be toxic, because there's usual one or two narcissists within the family who always create strife and chaos and then blame others.
@@Indijana Exactly, and then they try to guilt you into accepting their abuse because they are family.... Life got so much better when I blocked them all! We can't control them but we can master ourselves and find healthier people. 💖
I think that's what is called reactive abuse. They know your buttons and they push until you freak out. My dad did that to me all the time. I found out he had done it in order to tape me and then he was trying to use the tapes against me. What a sick f. I've never had a dad but I'm stuck looking after a monster still to this day.
At one point in the full fight Kourtney slaps Kim and Kim’s face hits the wall smearing makeup on the wall. That’s what Khloe is cleaning off her wall. 😅
Kim INTENTIONALLY triggered Kourtney. Just look at how Kim in TWO occasions mentions that their mother always can count on Kim, Kourt and Khloe but twice takes back Kourtney's name and looking directly at Kourtney to see if it riled her up and sure enough she manipulated the whole situation into drama and clout which is exactly what Kourtney has been saying for YEARS. After YEARS of listening to this and then have your favorite sister (Khloe) backstab you for more attention, hell yeah I would be pissed too. A conversation started about Kendall and Kim totally spun it on Kourtney for ratings, that's seriously f*cked up.
@gato_comunista3802 Nope, just gaslighted over and over. At what point do you snap when your family scapegoats you over and over. This dude has only seen TWO clips and not enough context to understand.
@JeSuis_Julissa Kourtney has been in every single one of the shows the Kardashians have put out that is more that can be said about Kim. The whole time the show was on E! It focused a lot of the time on Kourtney's and Scott's relationship And the absurd humiliations he made her go through. The woman even gave birth On the show. She and scott actually have been carrying the entire show for the entire E! run. She has the right to a break. All of courtney's pain was put out there for everyone's entertainment and she was a super trooper for it, And now her family wants to take her exes toxic behavior full frontal because they know it actually brings ratings In spite of all the humiliation he caused? It seems you and I haven't seen the same show.
@@tytania3545 lol she thinks being on a show is going to work! It’s reality tv! 😆 Kourtney is the oldest therefore has the most stage time. She was always with Scott and their troubles cause that’s what keeps her on the air. Kourtney wouldn’t have a show to be in without Kim lending her family with the opportunity. They’re whole show began with their family and then on an individual level where they focused on their individual lives. Yes their relationship dramas with siblings, parents, boyfriends are included. They just happen to ruin and take advantage of the sex tape to destroy and profit off men. That’s what they do best. That’s all they ever were.
The sad part is Kourtney has tried talking to her family about her feelings before and they mock and berate her. For years she's the one everybody dumps on. Mainly because they need her to maintain a public image and expect her to adhere to that, despite her values and desires to step back and raise her children in a way she wants to. While the others flaunt wealth and sell a lifestyle, that's their job is selling a lifestyle honestly, she wants to live more naturally and simply, still wealthy but more reasonably.
You know when I hear how hard really rich people have it, I have to wonder if they don't like the drama. She's supposed to be worth millions on her own. Why doesn't she just pull out and go live the way she wants to?
@@daleannharsh8295she definitely is doing that with her new marriage it seems. I think she even said she doesn’t really care to be apart of the dynamic anymore. Just cares about her kids. husband & whatever she’s working on.
@@daleannharsh8295I’ve been wondering that too. Kris probably had her sign a contract that she won’t get any money if she breaches it. But yeah she should have enough money already.
She has said that she wouldn’t work if she didn’t need to. Is she for real? After all the money she has earnt ( more than any of us will ever know but can live on)… she loves her “celebrity “ life but doesn’t want to do the work. Pathetic, but spends all the money. Give it away and go and live in suburbaria….loser
Growing up in a house full of hostility and fights, I do think this is real. I feel anxious when I see fights as an adult, but this give me a different, familiar, kind of anxiety. I think this one instance says a ton about their internal relationship. How they grew up.
I agree. My sister and I fought like this growing up. Just like in the clip here, the physical would start with one smaller thing (throwing the phone in the clip) as she tried to walk away. Then, there would be a defensive/don't go/come at me bro small move (Kim grabbing Kourtney's hands as she walked past). Then, the full on fight. Totally the same.
100% agree. I was actually going to leave a comment here that I watched this when it aired and it seemed real to me, especially if you know the backstory and that Kim and Kourtney butt heads all the time and there’s a lot of issues between them. I also have a sister and I remember sending this clip to my friend saying this was the most accurate depiction of sisterhood that I’ve ever seen lol.
@@louiskingsta6142 My other siblings would sit there and laugh when my sister and I would fight like this. I swear, anyone who thinks this is not real DOES NOT HAVE SISTERS!!!
I think it's important to mention here that Kourtney is the only person in that family who goes to regular therapy sessions and has gotten ridiculed about it for years. They say the healthiest person in the family is usually the one in therapy. Kourtney has tried FOR YEARS to express to her family that she chooses to have more of a work life balance and prioritizes her family over work sometimes. Everyone else resents that cuz they're all acting like cogs in the whole ass well oiled machine. It's actually really toxic and I feel bad for her. In recent years she has gotten married and is having a new baby. She also started to distance herself from the toxicity, choosing to spend more time with her family of choice.
I actually think unless it is family therapy, other people don't take people with bad mental health seriously. So telling them about mental health is useless. So it's only up to people who are taking therepy to get away from people who hurt them as much as possible.
No. Kim is not right. She's tried to diminish Kourtney for years to try to elevate herself. Kourtney started stepping back from the public to raise her kids and lives a different lifestyle than Kim. Kim is also the woman who said "women don't want to work anymore and they need to get off their ass and work". Kim just thinks she's the only person who works hard in the whole world. She's delusional. It's not hard work that got her where she is. It's generational wealth.
Actually is was her sex video that basically she let out but they pretended that it just “happened by accident” and her mom was cool with that because it got the original kardashian show and made the entire family rich. Yet ray js career tumbled down
While Kris and Robert Kardashian had money, Kim’s sex tape “scandal” is what launched their show and now they’re even richer. It’s Kim and Kris especially that got the Kardashian-Jenner clan where they are today. But that doesn’t give Kim the right to belittle her big sister like this.
There would be a no show without Kourtney. For like a decade, she put her entire life on the show. We saw her get cheated on, literally saw her in the delivery room giving birth, we saw her boyfriend’s drug problems. I feel like for a decade, people mostly watched because of her and Scott’s drama. The other family members had side storylines and provided comedic relief, but Kourtney and Scott’s storyline really was the show. I remember when she got pregnant by Scott on the show, I thought that it was not real because at that time it was abnormal to show THAT much on reality TV… It seems like in recent years she has gone to therapy and has set boundaries that she wants to show less of her life on the show, and instead of the rest of the family respecting that, they have been lashing out at her.
I stopped watching a while ago so I could be wrong but my understanding is that Kortney has reduced the amount she and her family is on the show because she doesn’t feel like she needs the money and she doesn’t love doing the show anymore. Some other family members feel that puts more pressure on them to be on the show more but personally I think they all have more then enough money to never work again and never do the show again and never run out of money so if any of them wants to reduce their commitment that’s fine.
oh, that makes sense. idk how it puts more pressure for them to be on the show. Classic, "you can't do this thing that's good for you because we need you to support/join in on us doing the thing that's bad for you to make our lives easier". Maybe they're mad they want to quit, but don't feel like they can.
I agree besides I remember for the first couple of seasons Kourtney and Scott’s issues was the main topic. She’s done her part she felt she was done. It wasn’t staged those feelings just finally came to service about how they feel. Kourtney had the right to her feelings if she wanted to be a sahm that’s her right and Kim didn’t need to passive aggressively putting others down about her work ethic.
Kourtney even gave birth on the show.. She'd paid her dues.. And I think the reason that she wanted to be a stay at hime mom was because she realized that being on the show took so much time away from her kids that they started acting-up.. Since she started spending more time with them, has their been any more issues of them having tantrums?.. Then just recently, Kim has been talking about spending time with kids, or days when she doesn't wear make-up which were things that Kourtney had said to them before.. And now, people are actually noticing how Kim has no control of north or her kids doesn't listen to her.. And the fact that Kourtney is so much at peace and happy now that she spends less time with them..
Kourtney carried that show on her back, having babies and being treated like crap by Scott. She doesn’t have to move like the rent is due, like Kim does.
Kim attacks Kourtney constantly. Says it over and over again until Kourtney responds. I feel bad for Kourtney. Her whole family goes against her. Im curious to see which sister she goes after next. Kim has been like this since the beginning. Kim blew off kylie and Kendall to go shopping. They were so young when that happened. Kim is treated as a golden child. Kourtney tried to talk about things with them and they blow her off.
Kims not the golden child tho,she's only famous cuz her mom made her do a sex tape and her mother watched it which is gross in general.and their mom doesnt/has never disciplined them at all
@@ariannaturner1401 that is gross. She is the golden child. Show me once where Kim has been treated like the rest. Kim gets whatever she wants. Hell how often did she work in dash? Kim wants to be famous. She throws around her fame to cut people down. She thinks everyone can afford the food, plastic surgery and trainers that she has the pleasure of. Kourtney has the right to run her life without her family ganging up on her. Think about the show kuwtk that basically stayed on air because of Kourtney and Scott. Yet Kim takes all the credit. Look at how much the rest kiss her butt. Until she turns on them. First rob and now Kourtney. I just don't know who's next. I'm so curious to see who's next. Kim needs to stop. She won't be able to handle if she becomes irrelevant. She already wants Kanye back after making fun of him. Show me where she's not a mean girl. I think I'm more excited for Kourtney to have this abundance in happiness. Which is beyond messed up. Her family should be supportive and happy for her. Think about how much Kim has dragged Ray j through hell just for more ratings. She Can't say I made mistakes. Instead leaving him to prove it. Which he says he has the proof. He has kids and she is still bringing that crap up. Think about how that makes him look to his kids. Hell how bad it makes him look in general. If Kim doesn't get her way she throws the biggest fit . She is toxic. She may have been the sweetest person before it all went to her head. I just know that you see the lies and manipulation in the show. Look how she made Chris look. She didn't have to do that.
She even said that Kourtney doesn't work hard when in the past their store didn't last very long not even the credit card idea that they had soo Kim doesnt know how to keep a buisness going at all either so she shouldn't go at Kourtney and she even said Kourtney is the least interesting to look at but look how she was when she was Paris Hiltons closet cleaner no one knew who she was she was the least interesting one to look at.
Basically to summarize… their jobs consist of them owning their own businesses such as makeup, clothing, undergarments, Kendall is a model, blogger etc. they also get multiple business opportunities such as magazine covers(so modeling), business trips, fashion runways, the list goes on and on. Kim has always sort of shamed kourtney because she chooses to stray away a bit more from family at times and from filming the show to focus on being a mom and her family as well as her mental health, she’s stated before because she feels often as if they don’t get her so she constantly feels judged. Kim then feels most likely angry that she’s able to choose that because she probably lacks boundaries and kourt is able to relax and not always fill herself with work, Kim had stated that she is a workaholic and kourt thinks it’s because she’s trying to fill a void. So Kim probably is ultimately mad at herself for putting pressure on herself that she has to step in and always be there for everyone and kourt in a way runs away due to how she feels so ultimately they both lack understanding where each other is coming from.
Yes I think Kourtney is content with her earnings from years of being on their family reality show. She’d rather spend more time with her kids & travel. There’s nothing wrong with that, she obviously has the money to do so. In more recent episodes Kourtney questions Kim asking…when is it enough? Explaining to her that Kim is pretty much set financially
@Softdrama978 he never said they don't work, he asked if they work...because he doesn't follow the show or them on social media it was a genuine question 😂
I am NO kardasian fan, or expert, but on work ethic I would say Kourtney has “normal” work ethic (given the family, money, position, she is in) versus Kim who seems like EVERYTHING is work (ie opportunity to make money). Kourtney has always given off the vibes of she turns off work mode and turns on family mode. Kim is “on” all the time.
I feel like Kourtney doesn’t want to be on camera constantly since her and Scott were such a prominent part of the show for so many years. She wants more privacy and says no to things others are doing for the show and others see it as being lazy.
Because kendall and kylie are just side dishes.. Kourtney was the main course.. After this fight and Kourtney left the show, what storyline have really clicked?.. Nothings that's very interesting.. Then Kourtney started dating Travis.. She was getting so much press attention that they get her back to the new show..
In my opinion Kourtney is content with her earnings from years of being on their family reality show. She’d rather spend more time with her kids & travel. There’s nothing wrong with that, she obviously has the money to do so. In more recent episodes Kourtney questions Kim asking…when is it enough? Explaining to her that Kim is pretty much set financially
I love how you keep pointing out their first world problems, especially arguing in their “giant bedroom” 😂😂; Also, I really though this was a real fight until you pointed out the camera angles. BTW, Kim ALWAYS criticizes work ethic of others including those not in her family. Khloe obsessively cleans.
@@Shez-n7tiyts not about how many camera set up they have . It's about cameras not being in the shots . Which means they were shot at different times . Which means they played the same scene multiple times . Also the whole scene seems very staged . Like the way Courtney started the physical attack and the way Kim went after her doesn't seem real at all . Like the tension between them and in their voice were not high enough to reach end up in physical altercation
Omg yes, I cannot ever forget when she was talking to them about what her therapist says in her sessions, and started to make fun of her, I don’t like Kim
Exactly! Also Kourtney saying in the older seasons that Kim is too serious or that she's crying over miniscule things is not the same. I swear ppl are literally using that to excuse Kim's behavior.
What I really needed them to do in this scene after Kim said "violence just isn't my thing" edit in the scene where she hit Khloe(?) with her bag in the head, full force, with absolutely zero remorse.
@@ladyariananorth totally forgot everything about Humphries tbh, except for him throwing her in the ocean and her losing her diamond earrings 😅 (those two REALLY were not a match!) But there are so many examples of Kim being physically violent as well, like all three of them are, and verbally abusive. Yes, things changed for her a little bit. But come on. Don't lose touch with reality, girl 😄
“Listening to respond- not listening to understand “ DAMNNNNN that’s such a great statement right there! This is going to marinate in my mind for a while- such a great observation!
This has occurred multiple times with them and it’s fuelled by their mother. Her expectations, and demands on them are high. And kourtney is the one who says no, Khloe and Kim often don’t. It is fueled by her advertising who is her current favourite child. They don’t ever seem to work though this topic between them. They get into a fight, don’t talk for a while something comes up in the family they talk again. They never go, Kourtney, get to choose weather to do something or not, if she choose to say no to their mother/manager their manager puts it all on kim and Khloe however they never say no. And this breads resentment. They should learn to say no.and no feel like this add to others work load.
Kourtney is the one i liked the most because she seemed like she had the least amount of drama or am I wrong. I don't watch the show I, I just see clips on RU-vid sometimes so my knowledge is very limited feel free to correct me.
I've watched the Kardashians from the beginning (I apologize for my role in the downfall of our society) and there has always been a competitiveness between Kourtney and Kim, and they also just have very different personalities. They all have their own businesses: Khloe has Good American, Kourtney has her wellness site and now supplements, Kim has a make up and clothing line as well as training to be a lawyer and involvement in criminal justice reform. I don't believe this fight was staged but I think it's clear that Kim was trying to get a reaction from Kourtney as they've talked about this before. They all consider filming their show 'work' and Kim and Khloe (it's Kendall who has the panic attacks, not Khloe) had been filming more than Kourtney and were getting resentful about it. It's all very first-world, rich people problems, but I think the anger between Kim and Kourtney is very real.
Kendal is a working model so she's always on the go and traveling for work, probably works really long hours and would have to work out 24/7 to keep that fit. Kim and Khloe I know are up at the crack of dawn some stupid 5am to start their workouts before the work day starts, which is things like running various side business clothing and make up lines while filming this show and doing appearances. Kim was just in a season on American Horror Story and is doing the voice over for a cartoon. Kourtney does this show and i imagine filming a show is work, she has some side hussle she does and has 3 kids. Kourtney wants to do less work and more parenting. She's always saying her children are her priority over this show. IDK if that means she flaky. The main difference between Kim and Kourtney is Kim loves fame, and Kourtney couldn't care less, but Kim needs Kourtney otherwise there is no Keeping up with The Kardashians show to keep Kim so famous and powerful etc. I don't really think work ethic is the issue as much as completely different ideas about how they want to live their lives and spend their time.
Thanks for this balanced and accurate af breakdown of the family’s relationship with work-life balance! I have mixed feelings about the Kardashians overall, but one thing they are not is lazy… they got that from their mom Kris Jenner of course. Which, good for them.
I guess too much serious stuff can get heavy. Can you diagnose characters from THE PRINCESS BRIDE? I always wonder why Inigo Montoya always repeats himself. Thanks Dr.Decker!!!!
This just demonstrates why reality tv shows are so toxic. If the fight is staged and made to look real that’s horrible and encourages violence by normalizing it. If it’s real then the pressure cooker of being on a reality show got to them which is the whole point of these shows and they behaved and treated each other terribly. Either way it suggests that this crap is normal and worse because they are wealthy and pretty it glamorizes it.
you are so right..... this was def part of my problem now that I look back after healing and learning and not watching the show on hulu.... but as a kid it just seemed normal to be this abusive. I am so fed up with these patterns, they suck for us all.
My sister in law said to me, "say what you mean,but dont be mean when you say it". I think that is a great thing to do. If you need to speak your feeling,you should be able to
what has it come to if we ended up here- Jono reacting to the Kardashians ! the amount of toxicity and gaslighting shown in that family = if not greater than Bella and Edwards from twilight! if you end up continuing down this toxic rabbit hole I suggest looking and talking about kris ( the mom) and her relationship with the girls- how she is a narcissistic parent
I used to watch their show sadly and never saw that episode though, I haven't watch in years so I'm not sure what that was about. But I have to admit, it was satisfying to see Kim get slapped LOL. She's very conceited and acts like she's the only one who does anything. I have no idea what they actually do for "work" but yeah.
I don’t know enough about these women to really say- but I feel like (based on the info shoved into my head from memes, the radio, talk shows and the general zit gists) they pick a “villain” of the family, every few years or so, and run with it as a narrative. Once upon a time it was Kim herself with the tape scandal, then Khloe being “too rough/mean”, then Kylie with the make up business. I guess now it’s Kortney’s turn.🤷🏻♀️
I'd actually really love it if you reacted to their original show in chronological order. Yes, there is plenty of stuff in the show that is staged but there are also many very real moments. It'd be so interesting to see you break down the dynamics of this family.
It's not about going to Paris, the mom is bribing them money to go do a runway walk for a prestigious fashion name since one of their sis bailed out last minute. So, it's technically "work" for them. How hard is the "work"? That is the true question xD Also, as someone who watched many seasons of the show, they don't actually physically fight each other on camera at least so this is definitely pent-up resentment and contempt between them. They usually are just passive aggressive. They are very egotistical for sure
When my late mom & I would argue, it never got bad. If we started to raise our voices, we would just separate until we could talk about the issue when we were calmer. We never talked about this. It was just something we did, so we didn't damage our relationship. My mom was my best friend besides being my mom, and I was hers. When my niece was a teenager,( I helped raise her, she's grown now with a daughter), we'd be arguing & I would tell her that I was going to step away because I was angry & didn't want to say something I'd be sorry for later. We'd talk about it when we were both calmer. If I was wrong, I would apologize, as would she if she was wrong. It's all about hearing what someone is saying & not being defensive.
That's such a wonderfully mature way to argue. Honestly, we all could learn from how you do it -- so often, people (it's me, I'm people) are so wrapped up in their emotions that it's hard to slow down and disengage when it gets too much. I am working on it, though. I'm good at saying sorry (and meaning it), but I want to work on being better at truly listening so conflict can be fully resolved.
Did not read till end Erica,but what you & pearson above are saying is how my sis educate her son(my 1 & only beautiful nephew).i admire her.she became so so strong and smart woman /her partner (husband)has the role 2.and i have too admitt that she learn me(older sis) ,how to behave better
I will not put up with Kardashian slander😂 jk. Kourtney has taken work in a more chill way after she had kids. But mind you she literally carried the show for multiple seasons when it first started. Has put her very rough relationship with Scott front and center. I think this was her breaking point as Kim is always saying Kourtney doesn’t work when she does but maybe not as much (I didn’t say hard) as Kim. They both have different priorities as they’ve expressed multiple times. Definitely not staged. They have good production $$
This fight was built up over time. If I remember correctly, the original issue was that Kourt kept signing up for things and not fulfilling her obligations or being really late. The previous season at the end Kim and Khlo met with Kourt (who was very late again) and they said if you don’t want to do the show you don’t have to. They were all for her doing what she wanted. So it was a surprise to see her in the next season. Kourt seems to say one thing and do another. Also she is queen of snarky comments but can’t take what she dishes out .
Thank you, finally someone said it. I hate, how everyone sees her as a victim, just because she plays victim all the time, despite that she's the biggest bully in the family. She even admitted it that at the beginning it was her and Khloe ganging up on Kim, but Khloe finally had enough, started speaking her mind and calling Kourtney out on her behavior and suddenly Kourtney is the victim... everytime someone calls her out, she starts gaslighting, calling them names and crying. That's a typical behaviour for a narc. And if she wanted privacy so much, why is she all the time sucking on Travis' tongue in public and talking about their s** life...? Hate it that ppl are so naive and so easily buying into her victim narrative Even when they had Dash, she was never there. The funniest was when she agreed with Kim on that interview saying nobody wants to work these days😂😂 when all she ever does is say, how she doesn't want to do this or that
She's not playing the victim though and you don't see everything that happens. If she's on the show it's probably because people are begging her to stay on the show and guilt and shame is a very powerful thing.
Kim runs her businesses and is training to be a lawyer, khloe runs a fashion business, Kendall is a model, kourtney does wellness stuff and has three kids (she is basically a stay at home mum), kylie runs a makeup business.
@@ssh1487 Right and I've seen a tweet asking Kim to please actually pay her employees overseas... after bragging online about all their horses, I believe.
This is what happens when you are alone with no one backing you up… they mock and abuse you. They underestimate you. That’s why when she found this rock star that treats her with love, they didn’t like that because she basically said “f… you all I am not alone anymore.” Especially Kim, the one that thinks rules the world. Kardtrashians have to go.
Jonno getting their names mixed up and pointing out their richy rich entitled problems is the BEST. As for their relationship Kourtney gets attacked a lot because she doesn't film as much or do as many vanity projects. The whole family is toxic constantly and it is bizarre how people just lap it up. Even me, I used to watch this all the time.
I laughed my ass off when Kim claimed to not being violent. Ever since they got their own show she was the one who was physically violent toward her siblings. She also always insulted them for their looks or life choices. So it's quite bold of her to state that she isn't violent when some of her violent moments were caught on camera lol
If Kourtney makes as much money off the show as Khloe and Kim, but does less work than them, there’s a huge problem. She should absolutely stop doing the show (like Rob, who gracefully walked away.)
Um... No Rob left bc he was constantly humiliated and belitted by his family. He doesn't show up to anything involving filming with he's family bc he's traumatized. The more you know 🌈
The work ethic is “going to media events” which is basically showing up to fashion shows, everyday photo ops, shopping, magazine photoshoots and putting their name on merchandise - that’s what they do for “work”.
I don’t think it is staged. There have been so many instances in their reality show where it is evidently staged. But it is obvious there is pain and embarrassment being unpacked there. Kim and Kourtney have always been in a competition. The way they fight is how I fight with my sister when we were young. They are somewhat subdued because there are cameras. If there are no cameras, there would have been worse words and actions. As for the cameras, have you seen their behind the scenes? It is incredible how the camera crew are able to seem invisible. Plus the fact that they’ve had more than 10 years of reality show, the staff and crew already knew how to move. It is like a well rehearsed dance.
I worked on film doing sound and this could be two camera operators on foot or it was shot twice. I have seen the show filmed in some shots over the years and they often have 2 or more cameras when filming so it is more likely shot by two expert camera operators that are quick on their feet with heavy gear. Those people are the real heroes here if you ask me..... I would have fallen on my as or bumped into another person lol.
Lol! I love your reaction! Their work requires them to promote products that they have made and “ developed.” I don’t watch them. But I’ve seen snippets of these little “fights.” Pathetic. However, If I had to be stuck on an island with any of them, it would be Kortney. From clips that I have seen she has been the most authentic.
Kourtney has tried so many times to talked about her feelings to her family, she has tried to set boundaries but her family never respected her boundaries, not only that but Kim and Khloé and sometimes her own mother, Kris gaslighted Kourtney about this. And Kim is like passive-agressive with Kourtney's boudaries and the way of life that Kourtney aspire to, Kourtney just want a more natural life, without all this media attention and self-centered attitude that Kim, Khloé and Kris had. So I kind of get it where Kourtney is coming from, she was pushed to far by her own sisters so much, that in this video, the little snarky remark and laugh from Kim was just too much to Kourtney, she just snapped. It's kind of a long time overdue fight and a built up anger, resentment and weariness from Kourtney. She really did try several times to talk about her needing to step back from the reality TV with her family. The others just barely acknowlegde it and didn't want to understand her,they didn't even respect Kourtney's boundaries.
Kourtney has been saying this to her family for years and has been constantly disrespected. She's been to therapy and can articulate her feelings and issues very well, matter of fact she was deep into therapy at this time and even agrees that being such an emotional time in her life played a part into this reaction. Honestly Kim and her have a long standing sibling rivalry of Kim making Kourtney not feel good enough, and everyone in their family, especially their mom, sides with Kim. It's so unfair for her. You can tell she's undoing her family trauma which is why she's so intentional about parenting. Also filming a TV show and being famous at this caliber can be extremely mentally exhausting, like her family really does need to leave her alone. Khloe is the one especially who needs to be doing the inner work that Kourtney is doing.
I honestly feel that this family is useless. I doubt any of this conflict is geniune. They need to stop airing and glamorizing stuff like this. So disappointing how many people look up to them.
I feel the family dynamic is a result of a narcissistic parent seeking to divide the siblings in order for them to control each child separately to best suit their own needs. This then puts them against each other in order to be on narcissistic parents good side at the expense of a healthy family relationship.
I think u meant to say Kendall has panic attacks blah blah blah, not Khloe. I agree tho that they're all the same pile of narcissistic trash but w different titles
Suffering from panic attacks, while having family members who are preassuring you to do things you've told them you just can't do right now because of your desease, is hard, so I'm definately on that girl's side. But as for the other two (couldn't really grasp who was named what) they're both soo far from handling this right, so there's no picking sides in that conflict. I didn't even understand it -- my mum and I were saving coins for years until we finally had enough for a bus trip to Paris, which was a really positive expreience; and here they view going to Paris as such a self sacrifice that they're having a *physical fight* because someone doesn't have time to get off work to fly to France ... 😮
but u cant look at their trip to paris like u looking at your trip to paris cause that visit in paris was their job. not a vacation, something they have to do
@@jadkawpadka4968 Well, that may be, but I don't think that was made clear in this clip, since it was taken out of its context. It didn't seem by Jono's comment that he knew that either. It wasn't until further along in the video he even found out that the Kardishans *have* jobs
Having grown up the youngest of 4 kids, (a people-pleaser amongst narcissists) I've learned to get quiet and listen, trying to offer solutions. Nothing between us gets resolved, though, because I'm still perceived/treated as the scapegoat and senseless little child. I've actually gone no-contact with one sibling (one of the best decisions I've ever made!) and minimize interactions with the others. I have healthy relationships with my honorary siblings, which I am immensely grateful for! *As always, thank you for keeping the conversation inclusive! (One of my grown kids is non-binary, and another is gay.)
I rather they go at each other and leave other women they are threatened by (e.g. Taylor Swift) alone. I think it is also telling that Kourtney is crying while the rest are smiling. Those 3 enjoy their toxicity.
Kourtney being a stay at home mom with Nannie’s and chefs while contributing no money to your life isn’t work. She doesn’t even discipline her kids 😂 Kim’s not wrong Kourtney wants to be paid for giving informative advice to her own family, lol The Feminist fantasy approach only works for the privilege instead of the real world The Feminist fantasy approach only works for the privilege instead of the real world They’ve mentioned this issue various of times and clearly bothers Kim. Kourtney is just offended cause it’s true but Kim might’ve provoked her.
Yikes. I like you BUT you're way off here bc you don't know them. They all work A LOT!! And when they travel it's work related! Can't judge by one clip if you don't know whole situation. 🤷
Don't you LOVE John? He's so sincere, pure and untainted by Pop Culture. Once it gets you, you're ruined forever. Think about it: why would anyone empathize with either of them? Their businesses were created/started by others, and they're run by others. They're just the name on the package. When they show-up, it's to meet for input. Hearing Kourtney defend her work ethic is laughable; neither works from 9-5, 5 days per week. 😂 I wouldn't classify this as "Rich people's problems"; this is solely a KarJenner problem.
No, you can't really react to the Kardashians without knowing them and their history. They really did fight. It may have been staged to start with, but sht got real. They are psycho. And they've been fighting this fight for years. The work they do is just promoting themselves and their stuff. Kourtney is the tiny one. Khloe is the blond. Kendall is the tall model. Kim is...well, Kim. The one you described as "shocked," I guess. Kourtney doesn't work as much as Khloe and Kim, and they're always pissed about it. Kim does have a point. So does Kourtney. Also, this video is really washed out.
Why is everyone so nasty to the Kardashian? Also, I would think as a professional Therapist making a video about them, it's very unprofessional to call them 'trashy'. People have preconceived notions about them, including yourself, how can your analysis be authentic. I've never had a problem with them, simply because I don't know them personally. There are so many bad things going on in this country. I would think people would put their energy elsewhere. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, if you have a problem with them, then don't watch them. I really feel that this is more of a 'bandwagon' mentality. Seriously how many people can say there are no problems within their own family. Finally, how can a 'professional have opinions (judgment) about this particular episode of the show, if you haven't watched it? You seem to have no idea what is really going on, and you want us to 'help' you understand. You are a bit of a disgrace to real therapist.
they all own companies (cosmetics/clothes) except for Kourt (until recently some vitamins or whatever), Kourtney complains the most and does the LEAST so yeah, she IS lazy.
i’m sorry but this is very unprofessional. is this guy even a therapist? like you can feel anything about the kardashians but i feel like he is treating this as a joke and being so disrespectful. i would never have this man as my therapist. i don’t know, dude needs his license revoked.
Sir, I hate to tell you this, but you have called them all by the wrong names. Kourtney is always bullied by Kim & Khloe. I feel like you need to watch a few episodes, to get a good understanding of them all
I stopped watching at 6:00 minutes of the video. I knew about these women because of their last name but that's all. I couldn't watch any longer because I really care about my brain cells and don't want them to die because of this garbage.
I really don't like Kourtney because through the seasons she is always been mean to everyone, especially, Kim. I always felt like she was kinda bully. I understand that in this moment Kourtney wasn't really ok, like she really seemed all over the place with her emotions and maybe non of them really understood how big this was, plus she is never been open about feelings. But at least in the episodes you can see multiple times Khloe and Kim taking care of a lot of stuff cause Kourtney doesnt want to (when its their job, tree of them). It's ok if you want to live your life differently because you feel you dont need to work (which she has said) but she never take responsability of her commitments. Anyway, I always felt like Kourtney loved to attack people with "the truth" but she never liked when somebody else wanted to talk about their truth.
I don't pay attention to the Kardashians. All they are is drama and bs with rich people. They have no idea of what the average person goes through who is middle class or poor. Even the rest of us can have a hard time understanding what someone else goes through. I just can't give a care to waste any time thinking about them. I really don't understand why anyone does, but to each their own on what they find is interesting. There are people who don't understand the stuff I like as well, lol.
No they don't do household chores they have maids and nannies to take care of their kids and kims using her daughter north west who's only 9 for her own gain and kim left north on the side of the road outside of the gala by herself
I have problems with crushing guilt. Some of it for things I should feel guilty about, and lots of things I probably shouldn't. It'd be great if you could do a video on that.
Kourt has spent years belittling and being straight up cruel to her family members. But the second someone matches her energy she’s a victim. She has a complex 😂
This! Kim was her victim for years and Kendall until they started standing up for themselves and all of a sudden she's the victim. I see Kourtney as a narcissist
Thank you, finally someone said it. I hate, how everyone sees her as a victim, just because she plays victim all the time, despite that she's the biggest bully in the family. She even admitted it that at the beginning it was her and Khloe ganging up on Kim, but Khloe finally had enough, started speaking her mind and calling Kourtney out on her behavior and suddenly Kourtney is the victim... everytime someone calls her out, she starts gaslighting, calling them names and crying. That's a typical behaviour for a narc. And if she wanted privacy so much, why is she all the time sucking on Travis' tongue in public and talking about their s** life...? Hate it that ppl are so naive and so easily buying into her victim narrative
So their “work” is promoting themselves and their various fashion and makeup lines. Kendall is also a pretty big model. I will give them credit that they are constantly working aka promoting themselves and that work is probably draining but it’s not like work the rest of us do. But yeah they don’t do any work around the house and they have lots of nannies. I will give Kim a little credit here for the fact that her marriage to Kanye was probably awful at the time and she was working constantly and that is what is making her so toxic here. But she will never admit her faults and mistakes she’s always the victim or hero in every narrative.
Kourtney is the oldest of 6, with Kim being one year younger. Kim is honest, competitive and dedicated. Kourtney isn’t. She’s in the show but doesn’t want to film, so the others have to cover her cut. She was my favorite for years, but over time all she ever did was complain, being a bad parent, and shut down any conversation that didn’t go her way. When the entire family has something to say, they can’t all be delusional. If this is how you feel, then leave. And just a pro tip; Don’t attack if you can’t handle the consequences
Did you say that Kim is honest? Are you kidding me??? If Kim Kardashian is honest; then I am convinced this show has skewed, desensitized and utterly demoralized a significant amount of souls in our modern society. Smh
