Zack Snyder new movie full fight Senator Balisarius kills Athander the slain king, violin and orchestra assassination scene. Kora tells her past to Gunnar, Arthelais the daughter of Balisarius. #zacksnyder #rebelmoon #netflix
It's called 'ART', and whether it's deliberately bad or not, is subjective and all of it is inspired by the experiences and tragedies that befall Zack who is the both the ARTIST and the ARCHITECT of his VISION.
2:23 You can see the guy on the left holding her looking down at Kora's gun and thinking: "Why am I not disarming this lady? She can shoot us with that gun." 🤨
If Mel Brooks or Zucker/Abrams/Zucker, would have made a parody of the ''Red Wedding" & Julius Caesar's Assassination at the Roman Senate, it would probably look like this.
Great comment! Blows my mind what producers are willing to fund. It makes absolutely no sense that after reluctantly ending the life of the child that she’d let the character who just tried to frame her survive but then shooting everyone else in her way as she escaped. This is definitely a parody scene fit for “History of the World Pt 1.” Of your course your intelligent comment will sail over the heads of many. 😂
Not gonna lie, if I was about to get assassinated and someone is playing music in the background while wearing a potato sack on their head. I honestly would laugh myself to death because this that sounds really stupid.
idk I like the idea of a random strings quartet, it's very weird and cool. problem is what they actually play just sounds like generic dramatic music. it could have been something exciting
I dunno what is sadder. The fact that is actually a scene in a movie and not a RU-vid parody or the fact that no one is even trying to defend this movie. Either way, its still shit
@@Aerosplinter You've got to set the proper mood for your big betrayal, I guess. This is so cartoonishly silly that I genuinely don't understand how anyone can defend it.
If anyone wonders: The reason why she killed the red priests /scribes is because of their duty. They write down the happenings of the empire. If she had not killed them, they would have written down the truth.
this has become my guilty pleasure, ive been here for 4 times already rewatching the same masterpiece of cinema. When i wake up i just say to myself do et, and i do et i just do. Do et anakin
"Answer me man!" favorite line in this train wreck of a scene. Also why do we need slow motion yelling of "murderer" after she kills the girl by 3-4 different people? 😅😅😅
Kora: commits an act of treason and kills a princess she swore to protect Belisarius: she's a traitor and a murderer, kill her! Kora: surprised Pikachu face
I recently discovered an interview with Snyder where he explains about Bailsarius betraying Kora and pinned the blame on her here what he says: “He values nothing. He sees the kings as rotatable, but the style and the heart of the Motherworld must continue, so he would sacrifice anything for it. Kora is also in the perfect position to take the fall for the whole thing. I don’t think he sees it as necessarily a betrayal, because they’re both soldiers, and the idea of sacrificing for the Motherworld is the thing that they’d both been taught from an early age. If he talked to her, he would say, 'You were given this honor to sacrifice yourself for the royal family, to continue the line, and you selfishly ran.' So that’s how he would probably take it.”
Erm … they had knives, she has a gun, then a machine gun and the chance to take out every one of the conspirators and the big bad, but decides to walk! Makes perfect sense.
Liked this the first time I saw it. Think it’s best to watch these movies as soon as they get released to avoid any spoilers. After watching it several times I kinda share the opinion of others, but I still like it. I think some madness in the atmosphere is about right for these kind of films, similarly to what we usually see in the Mad Max movies, in my opinion.
I understand the concept of a main character that did something terrible in the past and is now good or whatever... but that something terrible can't be _killing a child_ what in the world was Zack Snyder thinking?? this guy cannot be trusted to write anything ever again.
Well Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader also killed Children too, Same with Saw Gerrera and Cassian Andor, Also Let not forget that Titus is also did bad things as well afterall he wasn't some high ranking officer he was The GENERAL for the Imperium so he also kills people as well? The only difference is that He clearly values his men essentially the father to his men approach! I will admit I like Titus more then Kora as I do find his story kinda interesting in fact I think he should have been the Main Character of the Duology not Kora!
Also I forgot to mention that Daemon Blackfyre hired Blood and Chesse to kill one of Aegon II's children and destroyed the sanity of Helaena! So this isn't new?
@@WyattDucar No it was widely criticized because showing your bad-character-that-later-becomes-good-character killing children is a very easy way to make your character irredeemable in the eyes of the audience. Darth Vader's final heroic act is completely undercut by the audience now knowing that this guy slaughtered a whole bunch of children.
I like this idea tbh. It's only ruined by the generic ass music. It needed to be something exciting and attention grabbing to justify having the music coming from in-world.
Crush your enemies total , keep your hands xlean" you know there was this one Chinese emperor who was drunk was sleeping out in the garden without hardly any clothing the servant saw that he must be cold because all he had on was barely even a t-shirt on the servant got him a nice warm overcoat. My point is that he was executed the next day the reason why he had this servant executed is because he felt the servant was mocking him play trying to say that he has no style or something anyways you get the gist of it my point is let's just say for argument's sake they would have stopped playing so there's an old saying it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war we have no idea what you know what it is to be employed where to get money so my question is why would they stop playing the first person to stop playing the first person( violnistic to get killed by belisarius) Belisarius didn't have her killed because his dad was his whole plot to have a scapegoat he was real plot was to see whether or not she would hesitate into the fact that she hesitated that's why pin all this on her you know you have only two options in this world either you don't hesitate when somebody like your general you know tells you to do something who are you strategize and find a way to kill them when they try to pin it all on you
Wtf. The senator foce her to kill the girl, and then accuse her. Wtf, and even if they wanted to get rid of her afterwards, why didnt they just get guns to shoot her when she was escaping. She had no allies and the senator just took over the ship so they have control. Also why is there a senate when they have monach system of a king and queen. Julius ceasaer may have become a dictator but the senators attacked him because once he is a dictator then the republic system will end. Zack just thought of some cool idea and didnt double check his work and logic before publishing this thing. Dont get me wrong, i am generally less crtical on movies because i dont expect them to be perfect even though these cost millions to produce, but Zack really made 2 bad fillms. Zack can do well if he didnt have 100% control over everything in the movie, for example they should have 2 or 3 writers that have worked on successfull franchies releated open world and scifi for the plot while Zack directed that movie and also shared his vision and writers can tell why its a stupid idea so he wouldnt add them. Then another one in charge of the effects so we dont see these unnecessary slow mos when not needed. The tension is really cringy sometimes, which is the last thing you wanna do for a bad movie
Agreed. Zack has good concepts and ideas, but he should never write them if he’s gonna direct it. Or else he’s just throwing in things that look cool with literally no reason for being there or have no sense whatsoever
Zack cannot do well period. Every time I've gone to see a Snyder movie, I've come out disappointed. Though I haven't seen 300 yet, that one seems like an alright movie. (side note: I checked his IMDB before making this comment... turns out one of his upcoming movies is The Fountainhead... yes an adaptation of an Ayn Rand novel lmao)
@@thewitcherking937 Between the god-awful acting, and moronic nonsense like the villain bringing musicians to set the ambiance for his betrayal, I'd say it's pretty damned embarrassing. It's stupid on pretty much every possible level.
@@SunchaserKandri the acting isn't awful. The musicians actually playing the music is meant to be ironic. Nothing moronic or nonsense about it. You not being on board with it is your issue. It's not embarrassing or stupid. You're just overeacting and resorting to ridiculous stupid levels of hyperbole.
@@thewitcherking937 How is the quartet adjusting the music according to every single thing that happens in the scene supposed to be ironic? I'm genuinely curious because either you don't know what irony is or I'm just missing something. Can you please explain?
@@ot7012 the irony is that their music is also the intended score of the scene which In turn matches the melodramatic Nature of the scene. That's the irony.
There’s so much wrong with this scene that potentially could have been really good but turned out like this. I seriously do not buy Fra Fee as Bellasaurius at all, like not just the cheap-ass beard but also his acting. They needed a Willem Dafoe or a Nicholas Cage type so bad. Also Sofia Boutella in her 30s trying to pass for an 18-19 year old is like that Steve Buscemi meme from 30 Rock.
@@WyattDucar Good point and Snyder definitely deserves the blame but I’ve also seen actors who’ve been in terrible movies but still delivered and in some cases were the highlight of the film.
@@nathanaelreyes5854 True, you brought up Nicholas Cage and even though he appeared in a lot of bad movies (at least until recently where he is finally getting a resurgence of his career.) at least he is watchable same with Raul Julia from Street Fighter. Hell even Anthony Hopkins for Transformers the Last Knight. They weren't great movies but at least they are the highlights of those films. I haven't seen Fra Fee other movies or what else he appeared in. The only thing I remember was Hawkeye and I will admit he was really in the role in fact even though the Marvel shows are trash I do like Hawkeye especially it gives me vibes from classics films like Leon The Professional as well as the Matt Fraction 2012-2015 run on the Hawkeye comic series Pius I think Hailee Steinfeld was perfect as Kate Bishop. So based on that I don't think Fra Fee is a bad actor In fact I do think he is an already/good actor but like I said just given bad script and direction also the difference between him and someone like Nicholas Cage is that Cage has decides of experience when it come to acting. Where as Fra Fee is a young actor compared to Cage. You make an excellent point about Kora age's The Fact that she was supposed 18 to 19 in the flashback scene while Sofia Boutella the actress who played Kora is 42 years old is a bizarre. Snyder should have cast someone 18-19 years old while keeping Sofia mostly for the present day of the story?
@@WyattDucar Yup. Props to mentioning Raul Julia in Street Fighter: ultimate example of an actor giving a great performance in an otherwise bad movie. You mentioned Hawkeye (which Fra Fee was actually pretty good in), Hailee Steinfeld would have made a good choice for Kora or someone a little younger like Sophie Thatcher (Natalie from Yellowjackets) since they could play Kora both younger and older (the closest we get to knowing how much time passed is a brief mention in Part 1 about Korra having landed on Veldt two years before that film starts).
@@nathanaelreyes5854 Thanks! That would be much better casting choice, While I don't Sofia Boutella is a bad actress (she does have good movies pius I do respect her having went from Madonna Back up dancer to literally movie star.) I agree with you that Hailee Steinfeld or Sophie Thatcher would be much better casting choices for Kora not only for well reliability but also showing us the loss of innocence as I can defitively buy that literally Child of War as well making her relationship with the princess and to a lesser extent Sam a lot more personal. I will admit the fact the royal family only consist of three members is a bit unrealistic considering the royal family had been in power for thousands of years meaning that would included cousins, second cousins and other distant relations. For an example in History it was just 7 members of the Romanov family that were killed by the Soviets it was also included Tsar Nicholas II's brother Grand Duke Michael and his own family as well. So It would make more sense The Royal Family would include more members. I understand it mostly for simplistic reasons but still unrealistic. If I was Snyder not only I would have cast not only Carly Elwes (Loved him as an actor and I do admit the makeup for him as the King is pretty convincing but still the dialogue he says is pretty hilariously bad that I'm sure it would become a meme in future. I do feel bad for the child actress who played the princess I don't the Internet to give her too much hate look at what happened to Jake Lloyd.) The Actresses for the queen and princess but also maybe casting extra members of the royal family whether they are known actors or just background extras. It would make Bailarius becoming Regent much more believable. Not gonna lie for some reason the backstories for the characters is a bit underwhelmed while I could buy the backstories for Titus, and Milius as the former was a general for the imperium while the latter was a slave for some reason I don't buy the backstories for Nemesis and Tarak as well as blaming on the Imperium. I understand that Snyder want to have the Imperium to be this evil roman expansionist empire but considering this is a huge galaxy but still having them tying with the backstories for Nemesis and Tarak explaining their hatred for them is a bit off. If I was Snyder I would have remove the Imperium being part of their backstories for some reason I like the idea of Nemesis being this Ronan type character like maybe her village was attack by raiders hence why she go on to become Vengence maybe in her vengeance she slaughter everyone who is the dark path like the high ranking Imperium officials that was mention in part 1 essentially making them completely unrelated to them the only reason she hates them is because to her she wants justice and well they are evil. Same with Tarek instead of his planet being attack and invaded by the Imperium I would rather it be just him leaving on his own accord with his planet being spared and left alone by the Imperium essentially he wants to become an adventurer not some royal prince so he left his family and travel the galaxy being his luck run out resulted him becoming a slave you could have his hatred for the Imperium being more due to their treatment of the innocents during his travels of the galaxy not some victim of an invasion by them. Ultimately I like to have both Tarek and Nemesis completely different backstories rather then the same the imperium came and destroyed their love ones it was ok with Kora, Milius, and to a lesser extent Titus but just get redundant with Nemesis and Tarek's backstories?
Es que hay demasiados elementos buenos en esta escena, la música y la referencia al cesar me gustó, pero la forma en que se ejecutó está escena es terriblemente mala
@@derekzambrano3051 Dos guardias no pueden sostener a una mujer, ni pueden quitarle la pistola. La manera que entregaron sus lineas los hombres, parece also de una parodia.
@@thewitcherking937 Riiight, you're in denial kiddo. The majority of the regular audience and professional critics have called this out as utter shite. When you call them all "trolls" and claim you're right, it's more than obvious you're lying to yourself because of your own insecurities....
@@thewitcherking937his movies after 2017 JL cut are hot garbage objectively. Idk how people enjoy this shit, the previous dog shit, or whatever else he did after JL
I love this scene. It plays out like a dramatic Roman play. I also like how they have musicians playing because it seems to be tradition to have a band play when something important happens, like how the King was there to witness his daughter Issa perform her first royal duty as princess. It seems like the killers saw this as an important event that should be treated as such. The Royal family's death had to be an event for them, not just a simple assassination
Came here from the critical drinkers latest video on this scene and watching it in its full has me in stitches 😂 especially the damn orchestra STILL playing music even after it all went to shit & the “big bad” saying “do it💅” lmao his voice is just hilarious
@@MrImastinker I mean I don't hate it but it is bad. so bad it's funny. 2:03 the makeup on this guy, his acting, the acting from everyone in this scene tbh it's definitely bad. And the quartet changing up the music depending on what is happening is totally something my brother and I would do when our sisters fight over something petty lmao
I felt like it was very stupid that he prepares her to kill the white dude. Screams to kill the kid, but then tells guards to arrest her. Like idk, it is not logical. How hard was it to do anything better. Is it something from Snyder's tragic time with his child? Because I do not get it.
And now you will be crusifed. Sorry, mate, but you cannot write anything other than "WAAAH, THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER, I HATE SNYDER HE IS WORSE THAN HITLER" while the mob is raging, so, it was nice meeting you.
The drinker rips this specific scene apart in one of his vids, this is soooooo so god damn bad like not even first draft bad. The blindfolded violinists clearly have rehearsed the living hell out of their symphony, know exactly when to heighten the tension in their palying to correspond with the emperor queing into the situation of his own assassination 😂
