I'm pretty sure Joe was speaking very highly of Los lyrical ability a couple years ago. In fact, I'm pretty sure he put him in Alien tier. Los been a beast! He's definitely a top lyricist.
The Lupe and Budden live where they speak about it is on yt. Lupe kinda has to defend Los that he's the guy who can go forever from morning to night off the top like some witty raprap sh!t while conceptually he's not in his own level. Budden is kinda just c'moon Los??? C'mooon, stoop it. In a very why are we even talking about Los way like he wouldn't be up on anything when talking about whose who. That's about it in a nutsell.
I don't think you quite understand the level of an artist King los is. If he walks through the doors that he was told to walk through and does the shit the industry asks of him, he's Kendrick Lamar right now, sad as shit. he chose happy and i get it. listen to his verse on the BET cypher with Iman Shumpert etc. tell me thats not one of the biggest BET verses you've heard constructed. if things aren't artificially constructed in the industry why didn't that fly around the world. (honestly interested in your opinion of that verse though)
The Lupe Budden convo is on yt and it 100% absolutely sounds like Budden is like on some who cares about Los and Lupe pretty much defending him. It was a brief thing in the convo but Budden Defininetly wasn't big upping him or even being neutral but more like why do you even mention Los time 😅
Because his work got sold elsewhere. It’s his fault for being a ghost writer for years instead of making his own shit. People took his style and actually made good songs. He got left behind.
Right? I'm shocked that he's whining about accolades. People who know lyricism know that King Los is super nice, and he's making a living with his art. Isn't that more than enough?
Los is annoying in this conversation. 17 minutes of a man begging for validation. Completely pointless conversation. Wayyyyyy too long-winded. I think some people are too smart for their own good. It's like, Los is so good with words... that he can't see the simplicity in the dialogue. He's always looking for something happening within the words, or behind the words... and then you just end up getting sensitive over some shit that doesn't exist. This is just a simple desire to be acknowledged as the best rapper. If you don't care about the industry, then keep it consistent. Don't care enough to want your name in their mouths but then admit that you fought against being in a position where the industry would embrace you more. Even if you DID take the industry path, your position as the best would still be debated. Nobody can ever definitively say "I am the best rapper". It's the never-ending debate that I honestly get tired of. You chose your rebel position... stand in it and be okay with whatever "Love" you get from it, or lack thereof. People always out here searching for Love outside of themselves. Do YOU Love your raps, Los? Clearly, you do. Keep it there. Love your raps... and if you Love to do it... keep rapping as much as you can. And if you really believe you are THE BEST and you wanna prove that to people... there's work involved in that. And even with the most insane work ethic, you'll never convince EVERYONE of what you believe to be true about yourself. You'll be at war forever. If it was really all peace and Love, you wouldn't have the energy to address a convo like this. Deep down, you DO wanna make that diss record and get everyone's attention. You wanna fight for peoples' respect, but you don't wanna look desperate. It's power games. You want your talent to be enough. It'll never be enough. Be enough for YOURSELF.
So many of these artists don't realize it's a business. You can be an amazing artist but if you don't know how to make moves you're not going anywhere.
Y'all weird. So many of you use that word Insecure without truly knowing what It means. He's only "insecure" cause he's doing his part, making his unique good music... and all they tell him is that it won't sell. Arent they a marketing team? Get to work. Not on him to self promote and do their job too. Wtf is the point of them then?
Facts. I found out bout Los when he randomly sent me his mixtape on MySpace lol I guess he was just spamming everyone with his mixtapes and I actually listened and he been one of my fav rappers ever since
To be honest, Los is where he is because he doesnt make great music overall. Its not enough to be a lyrical miracle wordsmith. Ok, but is it sonically pleasing? Is the replay value high? His freestyles are wild, and he has some songs but I do think dude needs a reality check. I get the passion though and having that "im the best" mentality but show and prove. Make better music.
He is just the wrong color. You just explained Eminem, who is a Lyrical miracle too. But he’s white so they spread him all over. Los should be in the exact same position
Make better music? You mean follow the script pop-culture laid out and conform to the mainstream? Is that what you mean by "make better music"? Los is where he's at, simply because of bad luck lol.
Los kinda in the mold of a canibus...it's only so much hot lyrics u can say before it is boring...can u switch it up? tell stories like Big L casulties of a dice game? Can u make a song completely metaphorical like Pacs me and my girlfriend? Can u talk that pain/struggle stuff like Cormega The Saga?? U have to be complete to consider ya self a top lyricist
Would never say King Los is wayyyyy better than Kendrick ... i would say hes on that level and thats a massive compliment because Kendrick is on another plateu to every Mc out there ...
Huge Los fan but he being wayyyyyy too sensitive about this. Joe is entitled to his opinion. And Joe is actually right. He has always complemented Los on the Pod. Los was just doing too much.
He expressed His emotions to the man he had an issue with to have a conversation and get more in tune with where he was coming from what more could you ask for heating costs amount he didn’t hate on him he simply wanted to have a conversation
Men can have conversations where emotion is a huge factor, and that doesn't make them sensitive or divas. Y'all can take that toxic male bullshit somewhere else. Real mfers spill their soul into the music, fake ones just "make hits".
It's not that he's sensitive if a regular Joe blow was talking he wouldn't care. Joe is a bigger figure in the hip hop community. People can be so straight minded and can easily say someone is sensitive. Joe puts up numbers on that podcast I would tell Joe to chill too lol. Joe podcast sale out arena fuck yall mean sensitive lmao yall it a bigger picture
I just heard what joe said smh los tripping hard this was some sensitive ass shit wtf .... u a rapper an never made no good music dont b mad at us for not giving u more props u drop the ball u had all the changes in the world to do shit that’s on u
I really don't know too many who can outbar Los. Look up King Los "Don't Get in my way"-featuring Royce 5'9. He low-key made Royce look like an up and coming rapper on that track.
glad for king los...that he didn't conform. because had he been established, he would have been on top at some point, definitely one of the best lyricists in the game!
As top 1 as Los has been thru his career.. No matter how many tracks he slays hell neva b considered great Coz he won't get himself to sign with commercial.. Thus is what u pay 4 Not bn an industry plant my brother
Los really wants smoke. He came up in the DVD battle era and he ultimately wants to go there with Joe. But his new found I am love shit is in the way. He’s at odds with himself.
Alot of y'all that air on joe s side in this or comes across as being objective and rightfully state what you think Los and where he faulters needs to consider two things Joe s words, demeanor and actions to him or others isnt always right, Joe s is can be cocky and rude and he can be right one or more things and totally wrong in others things.
No matter what is said, King Los is gonna come off in a bad light to those who aren’t in tune with God-Tier lyricism. The difference is Los doesn’t have that commercial mainstream backing like Lupe, Kendrick and Cole, but honestly, King Los is WAYYYYY better than Kendrick, Tech Nine, and many of these so-called lyricists, combined. The man is special with this rap shit and I don’t even wanna debate with those who haven’t checked the man’s entire catalogue. We won’t see this type of skills for awhile! 🗣️💯🎯🎶🫡
Yep. I've said the same. This new generation don't like lyrical rappers. Its all mumble now. But for us real rap heads. We know Los is one of the greatest ever. He's definitely top 5 for me and could arguably be the greatest ever himself. And he's better than Joe by far imo. I think Joe was just Hating when lupe talked how good Los really is. Joe is lyrical but his career was garbage and his music was also. Los dont have huge mainstream hits. But he cab make great tracks. Los isn't just a lyrical word smith he's great at music tracks as well.
Wordsmiths have to understand that that ain’t the only part of the music game for rap you actually have to make good songs and albums and that los not the best at let’s be real
A little truth but tell that to Eminem! Take away his songs with features and all that’s left are songs that only display great lyricism. Lol. But he’s white so he gets a pass right?
@@christianphillips1051 the way I am, cleaning out my closet, simg for the moment, not afraid, soldier, like toy soldiers, Marshall mathers, when I'm gone, mockingbird, kill you, no regrets, no love, till i collapse, superman, crack a bottle, lose yourself, rabbit run, 8 mile, no apologies, I could go on. How many of these songs have you heard, truthfully? Most people who say this have only heard his mainstream songs and never went through albums, I'll admit he's had some really bad songs but he has honestly so many good ones too, just listen.
He's wrote some of the biggest rap hits you've ever heard and never gets credit nor all of them paid him his money. I'd be shitty too not self absorbed. Most Salty That The Brother Is From Baltimore Outshining Majority Of New Yorkers Who He's Written For. If He Exposes All Of Them He's Written For Most Will Still Throw Shade At Brother Man.
Los said "But now I get THIS Joe, where was this Joe?“ while Couch Karen being 2 faced in his own chat.. I remember in high school when chicks pulled moves like that to each other 🤣🤣
I've never said, “I feel " over 3 times to another ninja in any conversation?....smh, Why would you live some feelings w another dude. i just don't get today's dudes, bro.
I literally never heard of him. He’s never been mentioned in any top list I’ve heard of ever. I have to look him up to hear what he’s done. I only know Joe Budden.
You goin in the right direction cuz ...fuck with anybody say...your character great and you a bargod !!! You right !!! That shit sting cause I loved joe and felt yo....he ain't think...he exactly right...before he spoke...he ain't think ...guess I see why ran felt some kinda way...damn joe !!!!
Joe's podcast relevance is the reason these days. The same with Ak. Back in the day you could be a rapper at Wendy's and people would address you. It ended up making too many careers.
Xhy the heck is tbis showing up in april 2022.yo the net breeds division. First slaughtzr house now any rapoer joe deal with on a frien d slash lyrical rival level becomes a thing. Whateva
Los is straight trippin dude's acting like a female lmao but like dude in the comment above said they're really isn't too many people who can fuck with Los.
Reading the comments I see a bunch of people talking about these guys are arguing early in the morning before breakfast and all of this stuff. But obviously what these average Joe people don’t get is that these peoplehis job. Just like when you turn on the radio at 5 AM a DJ is there talking. Being a rapper is no longer about making songs and just putting them out. Now it’s about being on social media and if you’re lucky being in some type of drama that put you in a spotlight in a heavy way. The conversation needs to guys are having it’s not even worth having do you making it more than what it is on purpose. It’s just a tactic to get people to watch him pay attention to both of them. I actually think that Joe is doing this little conversation to bring a spotlight to los for whatever reason Or project he is working on
King Los is mad nice, but you need to build a catalog to have a place in hip hop. Los isn't on a Lupe level lyrically, let alone Lupe is a much, MUCH better artist
Black people voice is only powerful when tearing down other blacks. Voice aint good for nothing else. Joe was a clown in my Day and he still is. He can interfere with anothers success but real men wouldnt care. Whip him out simple
The machine can grind out an album for a cat w/ no talent! But a rap wordsmith might not go along with the program and not get that album. There’s at least 9 cats being pushed that can’t stand next to King Los lyrically.
- There’s arrogance in these YT-IG comments. ° 1st, Los alludes to the depth social media effects business-&-income. He’s asking Budden to speak with more responsibility in his trashing people. ° 2nd, Los alludes to how the distance his relationships with other rappers has increased. ° We only heard how those important issues were conveyed in this quick & narrow context.
