King of Wings / Valley of Dreams (Ah-Shi-Sle-Pah), New Mexico - Trail Guide 

Agree 100%. It's a special and fragile place.

It's like another planet entirely.....

This place was something else. I went back a few years later and....I'm a logical, grounded person....But this place. I couldn't even follow my gps path. It was like the entire landscape shifted and changed. Kinda spooky, to be honest.

That's awesome! It was an absolutely incredible place. It's always great when you find someplace like this that far exceeds your expectations.

Good luck. I recommend you read up online (there are some good guides.) I went back a couple years after filming this and it was strange. Seemed like the entire landscape had changed. I had trouble finding it again. But I WAS able to find Alien Throne; it was just on the other side of the hill from where I was in VoD.

It's really special. I will say that I went back about a year ago and....it was strange. It was like the entire landscape had changed. I could not for the life of me find the parking area or even some of the roads I used the first time. I definitely recommend you do a lot of research before going.

@@JerryArizona Maybe you are mandela affected.... :) If yes, welcome to the club.

Hadn't heard of that place before. It looks awesome.

Cappadocia looks more similar to Kasha Katuwe/Tent Rocks. Also in New Mexico.

@@ferjwanderer Been waiting for tent rocks to reopen!!

And i think i might know where the alien throne is at. Worth checking...

I went back and have another video. I found it. If you find VoD, just look around. It's right there.

@@JerryArizona what is VoD? Oh yes, I saw your other video.. any other recommend cool hike around that area that has some cool crazy rock formations or some nice scenery?

I completely missed alien throne (obviously). I need to go back and look around more.

@@JerryArizona What's tricky is that the when you get close to it, if you don't have a excellent gps, it starts going crazy in that area, I kid you not. My buddy came up with us doing hot-cold, if the distance goes down, keep going that direction. If you find the brown penguin, you just go south and little to the right. You should be able to find gps coordinates online, but if you can't go to Flickr and send me an email.

I keep meaning to get back there. It is an amazing place.

Definitely worth a visit. Night photos would be amazing.

Kevin Xu it’s a cool spot, huh? I want to go back and check out the Bisti Badlands and Chaco Culture someday.

@@JerryArizona Bisti Badlands took longer walk then king of wing and Alian Throne.

I gotta say, of all the places I've gone, this one spooked me the most. By far. Just got vibes it was time to leave. Second time I went out there was even stranger. I had a gps route from this trip a couple years before but when I got there it was like the landscape had shifted. Like roads I'd driven down weren't where the GPS said they were. Kinda freaky. I may go back, but I won't be spending the night.

I was nearly killed by a buffalo in Yellowstone in 1989.

It's an interesting place, for sure. I have another video where I went back and found even more to Valley of Dreams. And, strangely enough, it seemed like the landscape had completely changed in the years after this first trip. I couldn't find the road or parking area I'd used before, even though I had it marked on GPS. It was like it just disappeared.

@@JerryArizona flipping aliens. Seriously, y'alls videos are on point. My wife and I were instant fans. I have a channel I have been trying to blossom for some time now. FlewTheCoop. I only have 70 followers so no custom url yet. If one searches "FlewTheCoop jetboil" one of my videos may appear. All that babbling to say, I get how challenging it can be to create content and we appreciate your efforts to entertain and inform.

I used Gaia on my iPhone as a GPS device. As a side note, I went back a couple years after this trip and got completely turned around even with the GPS track marked. No idea what was goin on with that.

I've gone twice now. Second time was....strange. Everything looked different. But I did find alien throne!

Haven't had time to explore much around there (I'm based in Phoenix), but from a quick Google search, Valley of Dreams is really close by Bisti Badlands. Looked like a couple good guides for those areas. July is probably gonna be hot. Bring plenty of water. There was none out there when I went.....Which reminds me, I need to get back there.

@@JerryArizona Thanks for the reply. Mainly we are looking for the sunset and nightscapes. We'll bring more water.

I put them in right. It was in DD format. It just wasn't exactly where the beta said. It was close enough to see it, but I just didn't know excatly what I was looking for; hard to tell how big the KoW is from pictures. What's REALLY strange is I went back a year or so later. Using the same tracks that were recorded in my GPS....got me completely lost. It was like the entire landscape had shifted. Like an entire road I'd used before wasn't there. Kinda spooky, honestly. And I've been a ton of places and never had a similar problem anywhere but here.

@@JerryArizona Twilight Zone!!!!

I was using an old laptop and it took forever. I recently built my own and it's pretty high end. I followed the guide for a $1400 4K+ editing PC from Matt WhoisMatt Johnson (another YT channel) and upgraded the CPU to the highest (AMD i9). The rest I went high end or middle ground (Geforce RTX 2060 GPU). I've never built a computer before, but it went pretty smoothly. Since then (way after this video), I've upgraded to 4K footage with lots layers, color grading and stuff like warp stabilizer. I find even my new computer starts to chug in Premiere Pro if I don't use proxies. It's still a beast and a huge upgrade from what I was using before. Before exporting would take overnight. Now it takes maybe an hour or so for export. If you can't upgrade, make sure you're at least using proxies....and save often.

Thank you. It's been so long since this video, I can't honestly remember. I went back a couple years later in June and....not recommended. You want spring or fall (or even winter) when it's cooler. It was probably 105 degrees when I was there in June.

It has been used in films where you’re supposed to be in another planet system!

You know, I recorded this trip on Gaia on my iphone and then went back about 2 years later and even using the gps tracks I did on this trip, I could not find it. It was like the entire landscape had shifted. Honestly, it was really freaky. I recommend searching online for an article about it. I think it's a website called The Wave, or something like that. That's the info I used to get there the first time. The second, I gave up and just walked cross country and eventually found VoD. Combine all that and Google Earth and you should be able to figure it out. I'm afraid to try to give you more detailed directions since I tried it myself and could barely figure it out after being there once before.

@@JerryArizona Thank you for the response. I am planning trails/hikes with Gaia, too. You can search for names of the trailheads there. I was more concerned about getting there. We also got lost in Bisti on our first trip with all the coordinates on a phone ;)

It's really confusing. The guide I read said the parking by king of wings was BLM ground but the parking for valley of dreams was on or went through private property. I went back a year or so later and the entire landscape seemed different. I couldn't find the parking place I went the first time and ended up somewhere else entirely. Honestly, it's really hard to say and I don't know why it was so confusing for me the second time. I had my old routes on GPS and even following those the landscape was different. Kinda spooky, honestly. Sorry I'm not more help, but I've never experienced anything like it in my life.

Maybe. It's shorter than it looks, but really long.

From.its base it's at most 5 feet tall and the wing is 18 feet long. I frequently give tours of the 3 regions of the badlands

It was surreal being there. Especially solo. Went back solo a couple years later and it was even more spooky.

I'd plan maybe 1 hour for hiking and 3~4 to hang out. I also recommend researching on Google Earth to confirm the roads and where VoD is as well. I went again a year or two after this and even following my old GPS track exactly, it was like all of the landscape changed. I couldn't find the road I went in on to VoD. It was one of the strangest things that's ever happened to me.

@@JerryArizona Absolutely, I will plan 3 hours to allow margin for errors, have time to enjoy, before dusk

As long as you have a headlamp, Valley of Dreams wouldn't be bad. You can almost see the car the entire hike if you park where I did. A GPS helps. (I use Gaia on my phone and it's worked fine for years now.) I wouldn't recommend hiking out of King of Wings in the dark. The drainages in the chinle all look the same. If you're comfortable with a GPS and night navigation though, it's doable.

Jerry Arizona thanks so much for the tips. King of wings is where I am worried about. your video in the RU-vid provided most usefully information. Thanks. Due to travel with family, we decide not to camp inside. We will hike in in the afternoon and then decide when to leave.

I'm thinking it's rocks in the chinle. As it rains and water runs across it, it erodes the soft chinle. The chinle directly under the rocks is more compressed than the chinle around them, so that gets washed away, eventually leaving a rock sitting up on a pedestal. Not sure if that's right, but it's still really cool to look at.

It's very close, but not actually in Bisti. I want to say this is BLM land. Although I've read some of the roads are private property, so keep that in mind if you go. Chaco Culture is pretty close by also.

@@JerryArizona it is on tribal land. Trespassing and taking pictures is just another way people come to indigenous lands for their own profit. Support local indigenous artists and businesses

It is on tribal. Nageezi Chapter House has the boundaries

@@dukecitymusicfestenthusias3523 what is the best way to determine what is private property and what is not? The guide I read specifically said the KoW was BLM, as well as the trailhead. Looking at Gaia with the Native American map overlay, it looks like the area is a bunch of parcels alternating between Navajo Nation and BLM. Honestly, I went back a few years later and was not entirely comfortable because it was so difficult to tell what was what....and I absolutely don't want to go wandering around on someone's private property. If you are saying it is all property of the Navajo Nation, how do you get the appropriate permission/permits? I always do my best to follow the appropriate guidelines, but it can get difficult sometimes.

Bisti is about 10 miles North from here,turn off on DE-NAH-ZI GOING east of off N.M 371

I use Gaia on my iPhone. It works even if you don't have service as long as you download the map to where you are going before you lose service.

Any "real" handheld GPS works without mobile service.

I had an odd feeling being there. And when I went back a few years later, it was insane. Like everything had shifted and changed. I couldn't find the roads that I had used the first time.

@@JerryArizona I'm trying to google translate, you were alone, but very brave, i would never have that courage,very mystery

@@JerryArizona there really is something more in this place

Hahaha yes! The Rez can be beautiful

It is. Definitely used by giants. Its not just a rock formation

It's funny. I went back a couple years later and the entire landscape seemed like it had changed. I went to where I drove in to park for Valley of Dreams and the road was gone. Not overgrown, no road. Like no trace at all. Like everything shifted. And I actually had my gps track and was staring at it and the line was right in front of me, but no road. It's the only place that truly spooked me (other than the Apache Death Cave). I'm glad I didn't give you GPS coordinates; they'd probably be wrong. But if you Google search it, there are guides that give that info. I just don't want to lead people out into the badlands with incorrect info.