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King's Quest II VGA (fan remake) | A Fair and Balanced Retrospective 

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Finally, after what seems like years in the making, I finally get around to talking about the Tierra/AGDI remake of King's Quest II, which has the unique distinction of actually trying to make KQ2 make some kind of sense.
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Комментарии : 88   
@backlogpanic7967
@backlogpanic7967 2 года назад
It is a treat that this video is here, this game has some memories dear. Don't worry about it taking its time, you handle your life- I handle mine. Next two VGAs are faithful and bold, Remake and Redux of Sierra Re-Told.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
Get out. 😝
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 2 года назад
The trick was well played, Troels's Ire is weighed! Told us did he, his weakness laid bare. Now never to miss a Rhyme said with flare! Hark well! this lesson of whimsy do learn, at your own risk lay down a King's Questionable burn! 😈
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
No, seriously, get out.
@coolnut99
@coolnut99 2 года назад
*combusts* AAAAAAAUGH!!!!
@lspoulin
@lspoulin 2 года назад
I loved this game, one of my dream as a kid was to make a KQ2 remake and I had drawn some arts, my friend was programming the engine but when I saw what Tierra did with this game I was so impressed by the quality, storywriting and work that went in.
@4Legacy
@4Legacy Год назад
That's awesome! Do you still have the artwork? I've always wanted to bring the rest of the King's Quest games to the NES lol. I made the whole Serenia section of KQV in RPG Maker, and it's actually somewhat fun. But I'm thinking of getting the good NES maker I've heard about and giving it a legitimate shot.
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid 8 месяцев назад
I had a similar thing, I was remaking MULE into a multiplayer LAN game and I had all the music, gfx, and a shitton of the programming done and then Planet MULE came out of nowhere and pretty much put my game to shame. It still hurts :D I still have my version where it stopped and the code is so huge. I had AI for computer players and all that jazz going on, I was pretty proud of it so it sucked to stop working on it
@katiehal16
@katiehal16 2 года назад
"...to everyone except the King's Quest wiki." XD Good thing I wasn't drinking anything when you said that, ROFL.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
I will keep taking shots at those numbnuts until it stops being funny, which is never. 😁
@mthecritic6795
@mthecritic6795 2 года назад
I miss the old Tierra crew I chatted with so often back during development....
@JStryker47
@JStryker47 2 года назад
This brought a much-needed smile to my face.
@tremendous2464
@tremendous2464 2 года назад
Yes!! Very glad to hear we will be getting some more of these vids. They're always very funny and high quality, it makes sense they take a long time to make. This one is a doozy!
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
I'm very happy to hear you liked it, and that you think they take long to make. 😅 Unfortunately I have to be honest: They are quite easy to make; I have just been procrastinating. I got fired, got a new job, got fired from that, then got a new job again, so I was battling some bad mental health for a while.
@tremendous2464
@tremendous2464 2 года назад
@@spacequesthistorian oh! What a talent it is to have the *appearance* of having slaved away for months on an intricate project 😄 I'm very glad that you seem to be coming out the other end of a difficult time. Wishing you all the best from now on!! Edit: I hope you know (even though you may be uncomfortable acknowledging it) that your channel has certainly been a comfort and helpful distraction to others while going through shitty health stuff. I can atleast speak for myself, the entire series of space quest games including remakes and fan games was what I would watch last thing at night and large portions of nights during a difficult time that I went through. So genuinely thankyou and all the best going forwards.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
@@tremendous2464 Thank you very, very much. That's very kind of you.
@dannastic7160
@dannastic7160 2 года назад
Welcome back 😉 Very entertaining stuff as always! 😄
@aaronrowell6943
@aaronrowell6943 2 года назад
Yes glad to see this finally it is complete I'm waiting for this for a bit since I binged all of the other ones The bookworm theme in the background still slaps
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
So happy you liked it. Sorry it took so damn long.
@aaronrowell6943
@aaronrowell6943 2 года назад
@@spacequesthistorian it's all right I knew it would be good especially considering that it is the one that is the most insane and fairy tale like like you said drug trippy, and I bet it feels good to be vindicated to basically all of your fan theories are correct
@GeminiDoesGames
@GeminiDoesGames 2 года назад
Great video! Glad you managed to get it put together! And to be fair, you probably did a better job of editing than I could have.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
That's mighty sweet of you. Premiere refusing to package the project up nicely inadvertently became the kick in the ass I needed to finish this.
@CodeZero2012
@CodeZero2012 2 года назад
I was an early 2000s kid and I still love your videos. Holy crap. This was great. Lol.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@UKCougar
@UKCougar 2 года назад
That was bloody brilliant. Well played.
@bustedaimbotgaming1763
@bustedaimbotgaming1763 2 года назад
Some of these remakes are great. I'm looking forward to seeing you play this one. I know you loved the original XD
@Strideo1
@Strideo1 5 месяцев назад
"No more rhymes now! I mean it!" "Anybody want a peanut?"
@Fender178
@Fender178 2 года назад
Oh The classic Tierra Logo that brings me back. I loved all 3 KQ games that ADGI did. They did an amazing job with them. Man I remember talking about KQ1VGA in the old Tierra message boards form a long time ago back when I was a Teenager at 16-17. I also remember talking about KQ2VGA as well on those same boards. Man I feel old from remembering that.
@jesternario
@jesternario 2 месяца назад
Okay, I have been on the fence about getting this reimagining of the second game forever. You have literally just convinced me to finally actually get and play it. Now if I could just get a version of the SCI remake.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 месяца назад
Glad to hear it! I don't remember there being a SCI remake of this game. Are you perhaps thinking of the SCI remake of KQ1?
@beavinator
@beavinator 2 года назад
The history of the "talking rock", how he got there, and why he needs the three gems, are fully explained in the game. Some of it comes from optional stuff like library books but the bulk of it is in dialogue you have to see to get through the game.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 2 года назад
Uh, maybe Neptune alludes to it a little, but the bulk of it is actually in the Manuel - which I suppose SQH didn't open. P.S. it's worth doing, if he didn't - there's a big history of development from Daniel Stacey within.
@beavinator
@beavinator 2 года назад
@@MagusMarquillin Oh you're probably right. I always read game manuals, and tend to forget I'm one of the few who does.
@AlbertBoris
@AlbertBoris 2 года назад
I'm a pretty big fan of the original version, as King's Quest II is one of my favourite games in the series. Even as a purist, I gotta say that this remake is one of the most spectacular experiences I've ever had. Everything was crafted with love and care down to the core..., absolutely amazing
@RobobTheGreat
@RobobTheGreat Месяц назад
It's truly astonishing how polished it is for a non-commercial fan project...one of the best point-n-click adventure games I've ever played.
@xRocketzFighterx
@xRocketzFighterx 2 года назад
This remake 100% got me into this series. As whimsical corny all of it is, it did win me over to keep on playing these games. Again your videos n writing really stands out, thanks for reminding me of anyone who dares rhymes will suddenly combust into flames.
@ErpyAGDI
@ErpyAGDI Месяц назад
Believe it or not, the story behind what the talking rock door was was actually in the game's manual. Of course, unless you specifically force players to read those by tying them to, say, a cartridge retrieval unit, even Sierra gamers don't read those babies anymore. :P
@snabbott
@snabbott 2 года назад
♫ Girl in the Toweeeeer ♫ Oh, wait. Wrong game.
@maverick7291
@maverick7291 Год назад
So basically they took out much of everything from the original kq2 and made a vampire: the masquerade spinoff.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian Год назад
Still an improvement.
@zimriel
@zimriel 5 месяцев назад
But with extra anticlericalism! Sadly, I can't play this one, I don't have enough white sheets to cut holes in.
@seandarbe2521
@seandarbe2521 22 дня назад
Got to love the vampire vixens who wouldn't be out of place at a goth club.❤
@LostSidedLove1997
@LostSidedLove1997 2 года назад
Hi I really like kings quest 2 remake/redux. I I don’t know so I mentioned this but I just want to say about the wolf part in that game not a lot of people know about this in a certain patch in the early 2000s. You can actually spare the wolves by using a special ointment in Granny’s house you can grab. It’s under Granny’s pillow and it’s wolf repellent. if you want to get full points when you’re replaying this I hope this helped you 😊
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
Yes, I did know about that. In fact, I accidentally solved this puzzle the right way the first time by getting the wolfsbane, and had to go back and do it the 'wrong' way to get the footage. :)
@winterbeat13
@winterbeat13 2 года назад
4:48 To the Vortex with you! Lol
@HellbladesFFXI
@HellbladesFFXI 2 года назад
I do really appreciate the added bits of story, like the actually sweet love story for the vampires and tying all the antagonists together (Aside from the first game, since it technically doesn't have one). Though, I didn't realize it was from a loose thread presently in KQ6! Sadly, having missed almost all the Sierra adventures until seeing KQV on NES and actually loving it (And then finding out it was one of the worst ways to have played the, but hey) and in looking back I couldn't track down KQ6 at that time. Funny that he says that 'Thrice' he curses Graham though. Cause that only covers 3 4 and 5. Which leaves out the one game the idea came from XD ALTHOUGH, technically speaking that had nothing to do with Graham and only affected his family due to direct meddling on Alexander's part, I suppose. "How fucking high are you, Graham, seriously?!" Well... He was LITERALLY in the clouds, so pretty damn high ;3
@coolnut99
@coolnut99 Год назад
8:20 Still laughing at that little sound clip when you kill Dracula.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian Год назад
That's from the Apple IIGS version of the original KQ2. :)
@winterbeat13
@winterbeat13 2 года назад
This video is an honest, to the point, look at a great game. I wish more people who reviewed games looked at them in this kind of light with this much love or whatever you call the feelings behind this. Calling out the stuff that doesn't make sense, but also explaining the game with care because you care. Eh, I think you know what I mean.
@sugaryhull9688
@sugaryhull9688 2 года назад
What's the story with the KQ Wiki? I've seen you taking a few digs and I can't find the context
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
They took offense at my videos so they edited their entry on KQ2 to say my video was full of rape jokes.
@sugaryhull9688
@sugaryhull9688 2 года назад
@@spacequesthistorian Ah. I missed it because the page on you wasn't affected when I checked. I think it's disingenuous to describe your humour that way having seen the video myself
@eddymadison9655
@eddymadison9655 Год назад
This is my favourite King's Quest remake game
@anonamatron
@anonamatron 13 дней назад
Wasn't there another remake by another group that was more straightfoward without all the extra weird stuff? I'm pretty sure I never saw that stuff and am really sure I played the remake.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 12 дней назад
You're probably thinking of King's Quest III. There were two fan remakes of that game - one by Infamous Adventures, who also did the SQ2 remake, and their KQ3 remake is generally regarded as the more faithful one. The other was by AGDI, who also did the KQ2 remake in this video, and, much like this KQ2 remake, they took some liberties with the source material for their KQ3 remake. I've yet to play either of the KQ3 remakes for myself but that time will come...
@StephenAnderson98403
@StephenAnderson98403 2 года назад
Cool. I always loved the weird milieu of King's Quest series but really it's a crazy nonsense world. I'm not sure how well the "rationalizing" tone of this game fits the camp of Roberta Williams. You probably don't need me to tell you this, but there are two different King's Quest 3 remakes. One by Tierra and one by the folks who did Space Quest 2 Vga. The Tierra one went all-in on the Black Robe stuff.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
My original intent was to play both KQ3 remakes next and do a comparison video, but I've got a couple of Patreon requests for videos first that I've been neglecting for ages, so I'm gonna do those first.
@JStryker47
@JStryker47 2 года назад
@@spacequesthistorian Just so you know, contrary to popular belief, you *can* actually kick the cat in the AGD one. It's just difficult, because you have to get "close enough" and he's constantly moving around. And I could be wrong, but I think you can only do so after you got some of its hair. But when you do kick him, it's pretty funny - particularly when you have the magic dough in your ears.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 2 года назад
It's not doing any more rational world building then Jane Jensen's KQVI and every official king's quest thereafter has attempted - even KQ5 started connecting past villains together. Really it still feels like a world where any random fairy tale can appear, but now those elements know about each other and have a bit of history, which I personally appreciate.
@StephenAnderson98403
@StephenAnderson98403 2 года назад
@@MagusMarquillin As much as Jane Jensen changed the spices of King's Quest to make part 6, she didn't change the main ingredients, because she was still working under Roberta. Imagine KQ4 in this style. Each of the Seven Dwarfs has multiple cutscenes explaining their grudge against the Ogre, because the Ogre ate their mom. Happy tells you how it made him cry. Bashful was outraged, in 1000 words or more. Even Sleepy couldn't get a good night's rest. But really the Ogre is misunderstood. He explains he's not a cannibal, and he didn't eat their mom, because she brought out something special in him. Actually their mom is now Mrs. Ogre! A few more cutscenes play of the dwarfs' awkward meetings with their half-ogre brothers and sisters--Mom explains how much she loves them all, yet the dwarf babies were old enough to live on their own, supported by the gem mine. She wasn't getting any younger and needed a new man in her life. Doc, who is rabidly anti-miscegenation, meanwhile hangs himself. Sneezy and Grumpy drink each other under the table while drowning their woes. Dopey doesn't really understand anything and starts to cry. Rosella tries to organize a family picnic, but she forgot to pick up the "Day Planner" item back in Lolotte's castle.
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
What the fuck did I just read. 😳
@RobobTheGreat
@RobobTheGreat Месяц назад
I don't remember ever finding any wolfsbane ointment, and I definitely never killed a wolf with the sword. However, I only ever played version 3.1. Is that why?
@cassielfsw3815
@cassielfsw3815 2 года назад
Now play the remake of the third one!!
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
I was going to do that - both remakes, actually - but I've got some Patreon requests first that I have been neglecting for far too long.
@michaelcounsell9935
@michaelcounsell9935 2 года назад
I laughed out loud, Denis Leary and the ranting. 5 Stars!
@AdriftForWeeks
@AdriftForWeeks Год назад
Probably my favorite King's Quest game by a long mile. Yes, the fan remake is imo the best, shoot me.
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 2 года назад
0:57 Oof! Got a couple new ones for good faces bot!
@Yannis1a
@Yannis1a 2 года назад
Will you ever do the King Quest 2015?
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
I'm pretty much done with King's Quest for the time being. But someday, maybe!
@Yannis1a
@Yannis1a 2 года назад
@@spacequesthistorian that's okay, I was just curious, I personally like it as a nice ending for series, also by making them stories told by Graham and he having problems remembering, explains the retcons and weird things from the games It was also a nice a love letter to the games
@donwald3436
@donwald3436 2 года назад
The remakes are great but I wish they didn't change the games.
@hollyconnelly8871
@hollyconnelly8871 2 года назад
Donk - (when using the bottle from the sharkees' area) isn't graham's so high that he needs head trauma too?
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
Head trauma might harsh his buzz.
@darkowl9
@darkowl9 Год назад
KQ really _does_ like Charon the ferryman of the undead, doesn't it?
@Thrakus
@Thrakus 2 года назад
Anyone knows of our have Make your own Sieara game, I do not think it was the real name but people called it this on BBS`s. It had the church from KQ2 and the Docks from KQ3 about 40 screens. You could edit npc text items puzzles. It needed 286 to run. Been looking for ever for it,
@Thrakus
@Thrakus 2 года назад
You should try SarienNet , Multiplayer co-op of Kings,Space,Police Quest. Maybe a vid of playing the game games co-op.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 2 года назад
Well, this was an insta-click. Not much to say, tho, since I never played this one. But I'm glad the roasts have returned!
@G00berella
@G00berella 2 года назад
A C-bomb in the first 3 minutes. Not bad!
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian 2 года назад
Two in the same video, too, if you count the lovely chap with the well-angled pimp hand.
@gamerk316
@gamerk316 2 года назад
I always viewed kq2 as the weakest retry in the series, and the vga remake did quite a bit to try and make the story...a thing that kinda maybe makes sense. Hope you do the KQIII VGA remake next. Personally feel it fell on its face at the end, but they were forced to close their expanded storyline due the the new Kings Quest being released (and God don't get me started on that atrocity)
@libetslament
@libetslament Месяц назад
2 years late but play the kings quest 3 fan remakeee
@spacequesthistorian
@spacequesthistorian Месяц назад
I'm not your monkey. 😆
@swempytimes
@swempytimes 2 года назад
Oh noooooo not RHYMING XD
@zimriel
@zimriel 5 месяцев назад
I hated the fan remake. I disliked that they made the church evil.
@micahbush5397
@micahbush5397 Месяц назад
At least the in-game backstory indicates that the monks were decent people before they all became werewolves.
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