Hello. I'm from Ukraine. Thank you very much for your support! I have been riding unicycles since 2016 and a few days ago I was chasing a russian saboteur across the fields on my Z10 (ninebot). It was the saddest and slowest chase in the galaxy )) But I caught him! So I started looking at other unicycles (more off-road) and you helped me. Thank you )
It is very nice to see the support of the Ukrainian people from our neighbors. Especially from a like-minded person from the unicycle sect. Thank, Wrngw!
Since there are 7 (?) holes for the suspension linkage on the frame one can tune it quite a bit, maybe a middle setting will be optimal for most folks instead of just highest vs lowest, there's probably an optimal point where the pedal height gives you a good center point of gravity together with good suspension travel but that's also going to depend on rider weight and sag, for some people it will make sense to change the spring to fit their weight and then tune the suspension height. Regarding the klonk, from the video it looks like you are pushing the pads hard and torquing the wheel just before it dips and then after that the sound is there when it corrects itself, the clonk could be magnet skipping or realigning.
Great video Adam, so nice to see you have your vibe and enthusiasm back. Also nice to see you enjoying the S20, I really hope KS take on your and Chance from Watts Single Track improvement ideas.
Nice to know about those 3 screws!! Anyway ,I did demo test on this wheel and it hit 75kph when I looked down and I was sure I slowed down a bit at that time !...I did on Sherman 87kph...so hitting top speed is nothing new for me....nice tips for this wheel ! Can't wait to get mine myself !
I think suspension was topping out- you’d need to have it set up so you have equal travel up and down to avoid it completely -so don’t have full on or off but midway.
I just installed the Michelin Pilot on an MSX and Inmotion v11. Best street tire ever! Amazing grip, and super smooth. And, almost the same price as the Chinese tires. Would love to see this on your wheel.
Can’t wait to get my hands (and feet) on my S20! Already got some new grip power pads coming from Mono Customize that hopefully are better than the stock S20 pads.
I totally think that Wrong Way could use his amazing EUC ability to help the Ukranian people move supplies. I've seen it on reddit , people not nearly as seasoned as wrongway on an EUC taking to the frontlines defending territory and helping supply the effort. I'm sure he didn't know but - it seems like the best way to really support the movement. By actually getting out there. Flying the flag is a nice safe gesture tho.
So to summarise, 3 suspension adjustments areas: suspension geometry ?5? settings, can help with different rider weights, so a spring replacement can be held off(or finely adjusted) shock adjustments *3 preload, rebound and compression setting knobs, set 1/4th suspension movement on rider ingress, tune rebound to prevent pogo sticking then compression for ride feel. pedal height 2 settings, preference
I enjoy watching your videos, thank you. It occurs to me that a parameter that is important is the motor power to battery capacity ratio. For illustrative purposes, consider a very small motor and a very big battery. There would be no need for cutouts, but the device would be unrideable. Conversely, consider a very powerful motor attached to a very small battery. The batteries would explode, or the protective circuit would cutout on the first attempt to brake. There would be nowhere for the kinetic energy to go. I would like to see supercapacitors between the motor and batteries to absorb and dissipate sudden surges in current. I do hope that the engineers offer guidance with a decent manual on how to optimise the wheel. And a clearly enunciated design philosophy for a deeper understanding about what is being attempted to achieve. As a Saxon, a Rhodesian and an old warrior with no horse in the conflict, allow me to say that the Very Last thing we need is a fair fight between the Russians and the Ukrainians. I wish a speedy and decisive resolution to this brother war. Neither side have clean hands.
Yeah! I think about spare battery region, or big capacitors, yes. Something to achieve redundancy, to prevent cutoff situation. Completely true about war.
@19:17 I really want to know what is going on with your motor. It doesn't sound right. I think Kevin at EUC Upgrades had a problem with his motor doing something similar. Its also interesting how your wheel is behaving with stairs since I've seen so many others climb stairs with this wheel like its nothing.
It’s so funny when people jump on a wheel for a few miles and then conclude it’s crap; then when they actually adapt it for the individual they love it 😂🤣 Not trying to be rude but this video is a complete 180 from your last video hatinggg on the wheel Remember this concept when you jump on a wheel and judge it , give it some time man this is a very adjustable wheel, it has to be adapted till you get the full power and potential out of this wheel… so many people just decide to hate on this wheel when they have no idea what it’s actually like it’s hilarious and sad listening to… but with all massively hyped wheel, there will always be those sheep that just follow what the reviewer will say and I’m not specifically talking about you, but your a part of that group I’m talking about when it comes to this wheel. Good day and take it easy man.. take it easy
Given everything I knew about this wheel and then hearing WW complain about the torque, I had suspected they throttled down in the firmware so that absolutely no cutouts would happen. Kuji Rolls got his s20 a long time ago and he experienced a cutout, so maybe this was a response to that. But then maybe they adjusted the settings again in the latest firmware now that they know a little more about the wheel. I'm sure just one cutout could mean thousands of lost sales.
@@UnidudeNine yeah true but you gotta remember every wheel has cut out before, you just gotta get good enough on each wheel to understand the area right before that cuts out and the eagle or basically any other wheel will be safe, it took a long time for me to understand on the S-18 what was pushing the wheel too hard but I ride it good and haven’t had a cutout on that yet, KS focuses on safety and out of all the people in the world that has tried these pre production wheel, one person having a cutout doesn’t make it a trend or any issue for KS selling their wheels . I’m not worried about it one bit, is there a video of this cutout happening?
I totally get what youre saying. I too observe how impressionable some have let themselves become (albeit many of them like myself only have these videos to make a choice to either give up or go in blind, because no ones around with a demo wheel... excuse me beta prototype)... with the hype and then the bashing, its indeed hilarious. The folks bashing it based on videos of early impressions that arent raving enthusiastic to match the hype that was once presented towards the wheel forget that kingsongs already making changes based on the feedback from these very videos. Points need to be stressed in these videos even if they seem harsh in order to get advice, upgrades, or a chance of change from kingsong. With the wad of cash these wheels are asking for its hard to back something that might not be what was originally so hyped up. although part of me hopes the pre-order list ahead of mine gets shorter lol. Also, while i anticipate mainly using this for offroad, I dont doubt in any way that this would make a great street wheel. I wouldnt mind seeing impressions with a street tire.
@@madbevo3946 yeah haha it really depends on who the video comes from, chooch tech has nothing but positive encouraging info on the eagle, then wrong way channel talked crap on it the first video, then came out with a updated video talking about how awesome it actually was once he dialed in the suspension and tire lol (he changed to a slick and said it felt amazing so I’m hearing good reviews the more I watch, and the longer they have to try the wheels, also the new firmware apparently gives back the wheel torque but I’m not sure about the beginning lag All I know is that I’m extremely stoked and if the wheel doesn’t cut out easily I’m totally fine with the whole package, and luckily KS already made some big adaptations for the first batch, it’s worth the wait! And if KS keeps making upgraded high performance wheels I might just only buy Ks, so far they haven’t disappointed one bit, my S-18 never had a cutout, so the S-20 shouldn’t be a issue if they just get the quality software complications in order. Let’s hope China doesn’t shut down any more from covid, but last week Eve’s said they are just waiting on the battery packs for the wheels that have already been produced so don’t wanna get you too excited to early but I think we will definitely be getting these wheels around may but I’m trying not to think about it the wait is seriously painful
@@thefoss721 haha no lie! I can't tune out my anticipation. On the outside I'm calm and collected but it's all bottled up in there. Love chooch, but that guys favorite wheel is the one that's in front of him. Crossing my fingers on a refined wheel with plenty of nice weather.
Hey man I love your videos. I have a king song k16s as my first wheel and I love it and plan to upgrade in about a month or so. That being said you've encouraged me to start making videos exploring my city and such eventually. I still need a few things. Could you please make a video going over your audio and video setup? Thanks chooch 🤟
Great new new test! I've been watching the slow motion of the "clank" frame by frame, So far I see: - pedals are dipping forward - at the same time, the wheel is spinning very quickly, tire losing traction - once it regains grip, it regains balance instantly, almost brutally. Could be what makes the sound. I can't tell for sure if the pedals are dipping from lack of torque or lack of grip. It's possible the tire bounces up and backwards against the step, losing traction (so the wheel dips) Could you retry filming at 120 or 240 fps? Thanks 😁
i wear the same anukrainian flag in the back, and also went to a protest. This issue is so much war then a war betwwen ukrain and russia. nice to see we share same value. take care my friend.
Adam, I like your flag! Thanks for the great videos and for showing us what different settings do on the S20! I wonder if the odd motor clicking and lack of torque comes from the motor being sensor-less?? In my other hobbies (rc cars) sensorless brushless motors struggle off the line and at low rpm. Maybe that happens in this application too??
The S20 still has Hall sensor. You just won't faceplant on the S20 if the Hall sensor fails. Other wheels - game over if the Hall sensor fails while you are riding.
We gotta see you try going up that multi-tier staircase again. I think the poor low end torque curve has disappointed a lot of folks. You're the best honest reviewer Adam!
I'm really interested in the range you'll get at this suspension setting. Even though I'm still not convinced this might be a better buy for my workhorse/cruising/only wheel use case compared to a SherMax. Also, a really long term durability check would be interesting on this wheel. Especially for the hanging suspension system.
I cant help but think the clunk is something similar to what Ive seen some folks manipulate in a few videos with no stairs required. One rider was trying to bring attention to it, but it was hard to understand what they were saying and didnt explain anymore, but it looked like he was just bursting torque on it and it surprised him. Another rider explained in a group call that they even learned to use it (although didnt recommend doing this because it felt like the wheel was about to fail, but doesn't) to gain momentum right before he pitted it against a sherman in a downtown city environment. Neither of them have brought it up again, yet, but i dont think they are done creating content on it.
@17:40 you fried the V11? I've been complaining that it has no overheat protection built into it (so I use an alarm with EUC world that I set myself) -- I bet you overheated it if you did a bunch of extreme hill climbs. Do you have anymore details about what happened with the V11?
hey I had a question when you say the nylenove pads where way to big was this with the normale or the big version? because it would be great if those customizable one would fit the S22. thanks
Thank you very much for the video, what documentation is needed to drive around the city, what type of insurance must I have, and what type of driver's license is needed for this type of vehicle? Greetings
This will be my first EUC as I don't want to waste my money, also I can't help to buy the best from reviews. however with the latest issues with the battery, I'll wait until the full production version comes out.
@@mr_wrongway I’m running at below 20 on the EXN, I find it feels so bad otherwise with the knobby. It doesn’t bottom out but maybe I’m losing top end speed?
First thing i want to say to you Adam is in my opinion you are the leading authority when it comes to EUCology. Not only do you push the boundries of their intended use but you also explore unintended methods and riding styles and equipment configurations to bring fellow EUC enthusiasts the most comprehensive outlook out there. so thank you for that. And now: You mentioned something about safety measures taken by KingSong that were better than Inmotion... and what i am most curious about is what your take is on the S20 fire in NY a week or so ago. do you think it was just a fluke? or do you think there is a hidden design flaw that could show up randomly on the production S20s that are soon to be released? also do you think that the fire is going to delay the release of first batch production units? i know that you are not super fond of the S20 for various reasons but im glad that you continue to explore ways to make it more appealing, such as researching alternative suspension geometry options. after the NY fire i seriously considered withdrawing my preorder deposit to go a different route. more in the begode direction. (EX 2.0S) simply because i want to eliminate all range anxiety and i want a good platform to mod and develop after market accesories with and the EX 2.0S looks like a good candidate. plus it uses tried, true & tested 100V technology. im curious if the suspension geometry is modifiable on that wheel as well or how easy it would be to drill and tap some holes to accomodate it. I do plan on getting a couple different shock options to swap out. Anyways im just kind of rambling on but to anyone that has read this far give some thought on this stuff.
I wanted to get an ECU,but I got discouraged, because I found out that these stuffs are banned here in UK...so when I come back home in LA imma get one......
Adam, now that you got your likes - which street tire are you putting on? Would love to see the CST C6004 - I have heard a lot of great things about it. Better than the H666 and lighter than the Michelin moto tires (so I've been told). Really encouraged by the feedback from the new FW. The S20 fire in NYC on 3/26 is concerning though. I hope we get good details about it and there aren't critical flaws that need to be addressed.
Yo! So, at this point do you still have the pre-production S20 or the production S22? I’m looking forward to your upcoming mini/long review. Your content has been extremely helpful as I enter the EUC world. My production S22 ‘should’ be shipping air from KS sometime this week if they stick to what they told me. Stoke level is high!
I always recognize and appreciate your analytical prospective. We are of the same mind in recognizing the small details that others usually cannot identify. Well done! May I ask your opinion on something, as a first wheel V11 vs S20 for a slim 66kg, 177cm tall, and a 81cm waist size with no bow leg, would the S20 be too wide and top heavy for myself?
Why don’t you I don’t know maybe go watch UStrides or Hsiang videos on it to find out what happened from the people who were actually there. Crazy to actually want to hear the info directly from the people involved.
So is this the best new wheel? I like my MSP, but it starts beeping on me at 17mph. I really want somethin much faster and I probably like/need some torque and suspension because I am a very heavy rider. I'm nearly 100% street rider tho. I was also looking at VS Max or RS19 HS... How would you compare?
This is a mystery I would love to see solved. I also sometimes have that same clunk on my s18. I can start the ride and be able to jump up and down on pedals with no clunk. Halfway through ride jumping causes massive clunks. (motor, not suspension) and then by the end of ride it's gone again. Total mystery, but with very sad side effect of reduced trust in the wheel.
@@MrObeesho This thing happens to my e-bike as well... when i 1st start it rolls nice and smooth.... but when i brake and try to accelerate again, it does this clunk for a moment and then rolls again.
