So glad this song turned from being one of the saddest in the franchise. Signifying two characters that didn’t get a happy ending for a long time. KH3 rolls around a proceeds to make this one of the most Triumphant and happiest moments in KH history. Fanfuckintastic
@@niccerkadoabuckado8256 you are dumb or what? Roxas/ventus both of them wanted a reason to be alive and to fight... both of them got their answer... KH3 brought that to them... not only do they deserved it... but they needed it in the end... they didnt destroy them... in fact they saved them
WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!? You both... Think you can do whatever you want. Well I'm sick of it. *Go on, you just keep running! BUT I'LL ALWAYS BE THERE TO BRING YOU BACK!*
@KinglyRed Actually I think that's not the other promise. I don't want to criticize your opinion, especially since there is no right answer in this case but here is my interpretation of the title: Remember when Roxas said "You're making a good other"? That's the sentece my theory bases on. I think that the title doesn't mean "another promise" but rather "the promise of the "other(s)"" with the condition that "other" means in this case a counterpart. And thinking of promises Roxas is involved in, the one that is the most logical one for me is the one Namine gave Roxas before DiZ interfered, namely the one where she says that they'll meet again, even if they don't recognize each other. This makes even more sence with the fact that Namine is the "other" of Kairi. So in my opinion the title is reference to the promise Sora gave Kairi at the end of KH1 that he'll come back to her. That's the original promise Sora gave to Kairi and the one from Namine to Roxas, basicly the same one, is "the other promise". One last thing that may deny your thesis is, that this theme had his first apperience in KH2 which was released earlier than KH358Days, so the title was the other promise before the promise of Axel even existed, but as I said it's a matter of interpretation and anyone can decide for themselves which one they agree with or if they even have an own one.
"This could have been the other way around--" "Huh?" "But, it really has to be you doesn't it." "What do you mean? Roxas--" "There are so many hearts connected to yours, Sora!"
Roxas is such an immaculate character. I've never felt so much remorse over someone from fiction before, knowing and feeling what they felt so personally as when I played the games. The introduction to him in Kingdom Hearts II, the strange and out-of-context world of Twilight Town and his sleepy and relaxed normal life, being slowly torn down around him. This boy, you don't even know who he is, being "graced" with a Keyblade that's so similar to Sora's, and begs the question of who he must be. The glimpses of Roxas wearing that black coat that you know belongs to the enemies you met in the previous game. Yet he doesn't seem so bad, he seems like just a normal kid? All of it coming back to him as the town breaks even more, as he realises he's far from normal. He's not even really a kid, he's just a non-existent being. He's someone that was never meant to be born. A mistake, in the most absolute horrible, painful sense. But he hasn't done a thing wrong. He just wants to live a normal life. He just wants his friends back, he wants his life back. But painful memories of his old life, his true reality and everything he's gone through, coming back to him. A painful year of fighting to be recognised as a real person. Of strife as this practical newborn tries to find his way through this strange world he's been thrust into, growing up fighting for his life, having so much weight thrown onto his shoulders, yet not a care given to how Roxas would proceed. As long as he did their bidding, they didn't care. And when he finally lashed out, after being loyal to the questionable cause for an entire year of agonising over your purpose, who your friends are, and holding one of them during her fleeting moments, he was to be dragged back to keep doing his job. To keep collecting hearts and keep doing the bidding of those higher than him. Even with all the anger and rage he could muster, Roxas couldn't stop them. He couldn't even save himself. All of it, it serves to remind Roxas that no, you're not allowed to live a normal life. You're not even allowed to exist. You owe the life you have to someone else. You have that person's memories, you can see glimpses of a life you swear you never lived. And you can't keep existing if that Somebody is supposed to wake up. Roxas was not meant to exist. He knows this now. But that doesn't change the fact that he did exist. He did have a life, and he had his routines. He had friends that he ate ice cream with, and laughed about stupid things with. Friends that he cried over as they left him, or had to fight to keep himself from being dragged back into the Organization's grasp. And in the end, he was the only one who truly understood himself. No one knew what agony Roxas had truly gone through. Or if they did, then it was of little consequence to their own objectives. He's the very definition of tragedy. Of innocence being destroyed. Of rage rising in the otherwise pure of heart. Roxas has every right to every ounce of anger he must've felt throughout the series. The poor boy, born without memories, barely even knew who he was. What was so wrong with wanting some answers?
"XION WHO ELSE WILL EAT ICE CREAM WITH?!" this line has been meme'd to death and back but when you FINALLY realize that eating ice cream together was one of the few expressions of friendship and compassion that Roxas learned from Axel it hits you like a FUCKING TRUCK.
I mean that line hits when you remember at the beginning of the game Axel explains that friends are people who eat ice cream together. "Who will I eat ice cream with" is the only way Roxas can think of to phrase "who else will be my friend"
Them people had no hearts that memed Roxas for this. I immediately understood what he meant and ugly face bawled as he was struggling to remember who Xion was
It's the English dub that did not do justice to this important scene for Roxas. In the original (japanese) language, he said "No! Xion! Let's go to the beach together!" He meant that with both Axel and Xion. The three made a promise. As Sora's part, Roxas made the "Other Promise", one that neve came true, while Sora kept his promise to Kairi that he would return to her with Riku and he did.
Kingdom Hearts itself has been meme'd to the death. I love this franchise. I don't care if the story is complex or no. Kingdom Hearts is one of the most special videogame franchises ever
Yes, “Roxas theme” is sadness, but “The Other Promise” is actually anger, in KH2FM it was used on battle with Roxas, he’s angry cause he didn’t get the complete life he wants.
Roxas.......the only person who deserves to hate, vent, and detest Sora. But even through all that hate, he still harbors Sora's kindness and throughout KH2 inside Sora, he found the reason why only Sora could connect and correct things.
Roxas never asked to be born. He was forced into being and was made into a pawn for someone else's dirty work. Imagine being brought up unexpected and being taken in, only to be used and not loved. It's very depressing.
Not to mention that all of his suffering comes from one person; Sora. Why was he chosen to be in the organization? He's SORA's Nobody. Why did DiZ trap him into a false world? Sora's memories needed to be fixed. He had to give up everything all because of Sora.
@@Inferno144 The thing you and others like you need to understand and remember is that Sora CAME FIRST, not the other way around. Roxas came into being because of Xehanort's attempts to get his hands on more Lights that would become the Seven. To that end, he used Sora as well as even members of his own Organization and a result of those machinations is Roxas' birth. The thing that people refuse to realize is that Sora is just as much, if not MORE a victim than Roxas will EVER be. It was his memories that were splintered and refocused on Kairi's death and Xemnas USED that to mold the nobody that would become "roXas." Is it unfair that he developed sentience during that time? Of course! Should he have to be forced to give his life and identity for another? No! No one wants that! But you have to remember that Sora never wanted to die to save anyone. Sure he did it but there's no way he wanted to die! Sora never thought less of Roxas and yet, lamented that there wasn't anything he could do for him at the time he realized the gravity of Roxas' predicament save tell him deserved to be his own person and live his own life. As his fan, you want to raise Roxas up, but to push Sora down is to say that one needs to be sacrificed for the other to live. That dishonors both.
@@RedKnight17133th Sora honestly has to be the most selfless person to exist in Kingdom Hearts. He never focused on himself and he cared about those close to him, complete strangers he's only met once, and even those who tried to hurt him. He even showed pity for Xehanort, who ruined his life and his friends lives. Sora honestly could be a bit selfish every now and then, his one flaw is not focusing on his own personal safety for once, and would gladly give up his life for something that could be fixed in another way. He's a saint. Too many latch on to Roxas because he's edgier. If you ask me. While realistic, he isn't exactly in a harder position than Sora is. Yet Sora never once whined or complained.
As is pointed out elsewhere in these comments, that line - meme'd as it is - hits so hard. One of the first things Roxas was told about friends is that they eat ice cream together. And the way he sees things then, even Axel has betrayed him by hiding the truth about Xion and himself. He isn't just talking about ice cream. He's asking, "Who else will be my friend?"
Roxas is my favorite character (I've played almost every game, but not 3 yet though I know the spoilers) IMO it was a narrative mistake to let him be happy at the end of 3. It still works, but the tragedy of Roxas was that he had to give up his existence for Soras. Reversing that need lessens the impact of that sacrifice. I do like that Sora is the one who gets shafted at the end of 3, and everyone else is free and happy. That dampens the narrative mistake through inversion.
@@shonen_x_trash2488 i've played kingdom hearts since i was 7 but i don't really like the direction the game went with kingdom hearts 3. the game use to be 50/50 disney and final fantasy but its leaning more and more into disney, the trailer for kh4 gives me hope that the game will start to lean more center again.
You know. I used to enjoy sitting on top of a clock tower eating ice cream with my two friends. Now it’s just me. One is gone. Don’t know what happened to him. The other? He rejoined his other half. Now it’s just me. Ya know... I feel like there were four of us. But I can’t figure out why
@@thexreaper6930 google youtube download and pray you find a website like ytmp3.cc/en9/ and select mp4 before downloading or you"ll just get the mp3 version
The original is one of my favorite songs ever, and my friend told me to watch this, and every time i hear the drop (2:16), i get chills. You can just feel the emotion pouring from this song and i cant stop listening to this version now.
When I heard this in KH2 I felt the sadness and the pain that signifies Roxas in that piece. But when KH3 hit, it was such a hype moment! Roxas, Xion, and Sora working together, it was great. I found it pretty cool to hear a little mix of both Xion’s theme and Sora’s theme in Roxas’ theme. Will never forget such an epic moment! 😆
I can perfectly see the beginning as roxas watching sora as he doesn’t have a clue who roxas is, he continues watching, only getting angrier at the feeling that he gave up his life for nothing, finally unleashing in a fit of rage at the climax of the song
This track actually has me crying. Over friends I have since lost, due to circumstances that were both out of my control and completely my fault, at the same time. But that ending gives me some small conclusive respite...like...I may have lost those friends, but the ones I still have in my life...the ones who didn’t leave my side after I ROYALLY fucked up....those are the one who truly mean the most to me, and I cherish them dearly. Maybe there is some brightness coming my way after all this darkness.
It’s been 2 years and life is hard however Unironically let your heart be your guiding key your heart tells you what you should do and logic keeps you in check but never give into logic the heart needs to breathe and be free hopefully some day I can let me heart guide me as well
Axel: roxas! Roxas: My turn Xemnas: Where did you found your vessel? Roxas: Same as you..... Xemnas: Same how? Roxas: Most of the organization members....they travel through here as hearts. they were wandered and waiting one and each of them. Xemnas: Who told you? Roxas: I owe my return to many.......some of the people you knew. Xemnas: Ansem da wise......zexion Roxas: And others too.....it seems you cannot winning over people's heart as you think. Xemnas: Ah.....i see.
Lost in a dream I'd almost forgotten This sleepy town That I call my home Everything seems Like a slice of heaven But I remember Thoughts that aren't my own Tell me why my heart Doesn't feel like it's my own Is this real? What I feel? Am I me? Or nobody? Plucked from the deep I swore an oath then Once I was nothing Then told to be more Number thirteen Pulled to Oblivion A tool, a pawn The key to war Tell me why my heart feels like it never has before Is this real? What I feel? You and me And nobody Taken from me I had a life then My true companions Fallen by the score Why must I be Dropped back in dreaming? A fleeting shadow Locked behind the door What I feel Isn't real I'm not me I'm nobody I'm just a shade Better off forgotten What I feel Isn't real I'm not me I'm nobody
". . . I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own. Music always seems to me to produce that effect. It creates for one a past of which one has been ignorant, and fills one with a sense of sorrows that have been hidden from one’s tears." - Oscar Wilde
"You make a good other" ... that fight was a must for roxas... he freed himself from all that anger he had and finally has the answer he was looking for all that time
It took me far too long to understand this song's name. Sora, Riku, and Kairi have already made THE promise. Roxas, Axel, and especially Xion are only facsimiles of the somebodies they came from. Everything they desire, they dream of, and they love is destined to be this sort of "other," always in the shadow of the real thing, and destined to be sacrificed for those with a heart. Their promise is made insignificant by its futility, in clinging to a sense of joy that should never have existed; Thus, it is "the other promise:" an addendum to the main story instead of being a story itself.
In another timeline, Roxas would have been an *excellent* sympathetic villain and I think that’s why I love his arc so much. He had every reason to get completely fed up with life since so many were telling him he had no right to exist and he was only a stand-in or a puppet for greater powers. He could have EASILY decided to burn all of it down: darkness, light, Nobodies, Somebodies, all of it. But his love for his friends and his will to live freely were so strong that he chose to fight to get it all back instead, even fighting Sora and Riku each to a standstill. What an absolute legend.
Sora does some brainless things to save his friends (see: KH3 ending) but I have yet to see evidence that Sora ever had a brain in the first place, so yeah this checks out.
