KinnPorsche Reaction E2 | Back with Thai BL and bodyguards! 

The only problem with beginning your BL journey with KP is that KP had a bigger budget and higher production values than any other series. But don't let that dissuade you from continuing your journey. Many low-to-mid-budget series are quite extraordinary.

the "we got another gay in the house" directed at Vegas got me good lmaooo

in thai bl's basically everyone is queer, I didn't realize how new that would be to people that are just beginning to watch 😭😭😭

Rule 1 in Thai BL: Everyone’s gay until proven otherwise 🤣🤣

Oh i can not wait for them to meet Tanakun's character! 💀

"We're here for the LGBTQ+ representation not the moral representation" HAHHAHAHSJ Literally ME when I watched KinnPorsche for the first time

One thing you should keep in mind and honestly what draws me and a lot of other queer people to bl/gl is that it's mostly there to entertain. I feel like especially with western queer media we all have gotten so fixed on the idea that every single queer character needs to represent actual real life queer folks. Thai bl/gl is a little different. Characters just happen to be queer. That doesn't mean they have to act a certain way. They're messy, often morally grey, a little over the top and so so fun to watch. Are Thai bl/gl shows perfect representation -whatever TF that even means lol - no probably not but they've given our community what we deserve. Entertaining media and lots of queer love stories we can laugh and cry and swoon over. Kinnporsche is still one of my faves and I really hope y'all can just enjoy it for what it is😊

Basically, BL drama, especially Thai BL, is "spot the straight character" 😂 since everyone is 🏳️‍🌈 These past few years, we have had a growing number of GLs! And even sometimes Gays, Lesbians and BIs in ONE drama! (example: I feel you linger in the air series) P.S. You gonna LOVE ep3 :)

Product placement in Thai bls often makes me die laughing bc of how blatant it is and just the way it gets placed in the story. But product placement cracks me up in general like Toyota in teen wolf and myfi in the vampire diaries

You think the inhaler is weird? Wait for the bread.

I don't know if anyone else has said it, but I wanted to point out that the actor who plays Tankhun, Tong, is an openly gay actor and activist who has been fighting for queer rights in Thailand for years.

About Thai BLs - If you're looking for quality storytelling and good development of a gay relationship: "I Told Sunset About You" If you want something MESSY and entertaining: "Only Friends"

One thing with Thai shows specifically, is that there is often a mix of very dark and serious moments and very comedic moments

The thing about BL is: Queerness just is. There is no default to cis heteronormativity, the default is Queer. And thats why its so refreshing. Queer people exist, and in most cases (about 95%) there is no real conflict because of their sexuality. Its all drama from other things.

The actor that plays Tanakun, Tong or P'Tong since he is older than me (In Thailand you put the P in front of the name when someone is older than you) is actually queer in real life and came out at one of the events with the cast. It was a really beautiful moment :) A few years back he also adopted a son which he sometimes shares on his Social Media. Mostly for important events or steps in his life. I loved his character in KP and I know he enjoyed it so much. He also became a BL novel writer which means I hope that one day he gets to produce one of his own stories into a Series or Movie :) Enjoy the rest of your KP journey, it's definitely worth it! I'll be tuning in for the rest of this.

KinnPorsche gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Gay Mafia"

The beauty of Thai BLs is that in this world, they dont question their sexuality. Its just kinda like a given that they are queer, and no one gives a shit. Like there are no women characters in this, except for maybe 1 or 2 very minor characters. Like all of them are gay, in different shades. All the family that is. And noone is gonna be questioning it. even other dramas that are more rooted in reality, they dont angst too much on the sexuality part, but more about the romance of it. take note though that most BLs are geared for women, so that place a big role on romance more vs the process of coming out. anyway, cant wait for episode 3.

About it feeling like ownership, get used to it. Kinn, Tankhun, Macau, Vegas (and Kim, the younger brother) are all mafia heirs. They do not follow society's normal moral code, and the bodyguards are there to serve and die for them. They are essentially human shields. We will see they vary in the treatment of the bodyguards and the lines they cross, but these men are trained and sworn to take bullets for the members of the mafia. Kinn is the de facto heir of the major family (Tankhun is older, but he has PTSD so duty falls to Kinn). Vegas is the heir of the minor family, and he is below Kinn.

Oh, these early episodes are so light-hearted and funny. 😊 I love re-watching this (for the 30th+ time).

Since people are throwing BL / GL / QL recommendations around, here are mine I rec from Thailand: - The Sign the series (it's free on yt. it has thai mythology, criminal investigation and some genderqueerness, genderfluidity going on for one of the mains, also has a transwoman played by a transwoman in a side couple) - Manner of Death (mafia, crime investigation where a doc teams up with the main suspect to solve a murder case, because the police is garbage in this one) - Not Me the series (also on yt, is about a twin impersonating his brother who got beaten in a coma, now he's joining his bros human rights activist biker gang as a mole to find the one who hurt his brother. is very LGBTq+ activism and thai politics themed but with romance in between of course. one iconic scene has a giant pride flag that is the original flag they use in Bangkok pride parade) - Pit Babe the series (haha that one is a bit wild but good. it's the very first omegaverse (but only with alphas) TV show. But it's actually more about car racing with a bit of super powers and some illegal stuff happening they fight against but I can't say cause it's a spoiler ) - A Tale of Thousand Stars (on yt as well. no crime here... oh well a little bit but this one is definitely more on the wholesome side, starts a bit sad tho. rich kid travels to a rural village to become a teacher and fulfill his heart donors last wish but finds also love as well)

Both of you do NOT FORGET “BAD BUDDY SERIES” BL WHICH IS SO DEARLY LOVED INTERNATIONALLY. Their OST (sung by one of the lead) I can’t even begin how famous it is. In real life played by two best friends whose chemistry set the bar real high. Also said to have the best onscreen bl kiss ever. The director P aof is also the director of tale of thousand stars he even did a crossover in a special ep “our skyy 2” Also it wud be a crime to start any other bl without starting with bad buddy. You have to start with it and then follow with the other series mentioned below by other fans.

In BL World, everyone is queer until proven otherwise, If a character dates women, they usually are bi or pan or whatever, BL have it's own unique tropes, it's really fun, and yeah, KinnPorsche can be very campy at times, (I like it)

Tankhun is everyone's favorite ❤❤❤❤😂😂

I am living to see Josh change his mind about the series... Believe me, you WILL get invested...

tankhun is hilarious. He's so gay, yet so innocent. Everyone is basically gay in this series, which is fun because all the different relationships have a different kind of feel to them.

I, for one, find it hilarious that all the sons in this family are gay like truly the "your bloodline ends with us, old man" ahh generation Edit: Also fun fact! Tong, the actor playing Tankhun, is queer himself, wrote a queer novel AND has an adoptive son and they are super cute (he also got into acting kinda by accident) and over the years became quite the person, he even had a speech at the parliament when the equal marriage bill passed earlier this month!!

An amazing Korean BL that came out this year is 'Love for Love sake' . As to Thailand and sexualy. It is much more loose than the west. Everyone is a bit queer. And it is just the norm. As they have resisted colonialism. And the repression of sexuality.

you guys should react to "his man" it's a korean gay dating show but it's so much more respectful and wholesome then western dating shows in my opinion :)

Please keep going with this. KinnPorsche is morally grey, yes, but honestly so are SO many other BL series too. I would almost say most of them has some grey issues to, if you actually look at it, but so does straight series. KinnPorsche is just quite dark grey, since it's mafia/action themed, but this series also has some of the most romantic moments I have ever seen in a series that will make you melt 😊 Also, I mentioned in a comment on previous episode, BoC (production company) allows you to show 60% of a KP episode in these YT videos. Just blur the screen or edit out anything explicit (kissing is oki to show).

You are not prepared for what is coming 😂😂😂

I feel like you should watch moonlight chicken at some point- it bridges the gap Between western and Thai queer media well… a little more true to life but still classic bl troupes and of course every body and their mother is gay 🤣🙌 the Thai people know how to throw a queer little shindig

I'm glad you guys are enjoying KP so far. If you continue to explore BL i would definitely recomend trying BLs from other countries. There is a distinct difference between them from storylines, how they are shot, etc. and if you took out the language you can still tell. This is a rough generalisation (and my personal opinion): Thailand: Basically the King of BL with a huge range of genres, though sometimes can be more quantity over quality, but many real gems out there. Shows don't tend to have a focus on discovery of queer identity and characters just are. Lots of shows in high school and Uni setting but has dipped toes into pretty much every genre out there. Tend to be longer with 12ish episode 1hr each and lots of product placement. Heat/explicit levels vary depending on the show though Thailand does tend to produce some of the most explicit BLs. (Recs: Not me, Cutie Pie, Until we meet again) Korea: Probably the highest standard of production value overall but also most are short series of 6-10 episode only 30mins each. Also don't see product placement much here. Stories tend to focus in schools again and the BL country that is most likely to have storylines about discovery of queer identity and acknowledgement of homophobia though still lots of cute ones. Storylines tend to be "safer" overall with less exploration of genre. KBLs tend to be the most conservative with intimacy and kissing scenes though they have gotten better in recent years. (Recs: Love for Loves Sake, Semantic Error, Eighth Sense) Japan: Definitely your go it if looking for mature characters. Lots of JBL feature characters in their mid 20s - late 30s dealing with life in office jobs though there is of course schoolboy ones as well. Solid overall production value but short with most being 6-8 episode of 30 mins each. There is a certain quirk to the humour thats hard to describe but is very distinct. Also heat/explicit levels jump from super chaste to some of the horniest out there. (Recs: Love is better the second time around, Old Fashioned cupcake, Perfect Propose) Taiwan: I find it a mix of the three previous countries. Production value is more middling and ranges from 6-20 episode 30 mins each. Queer identity as part of the storyline really depends on the show but Taiwan has a lot more complex storylines in a range of genres (they also like their mafia stuff), family also tends to be a core theme in stories. Heat levels tend to be in the middle but again depends on the show. (Recs: We best love (Both seasons), Kiseki Dear to me, Unknown).

It's quite a surprise to me some people were complaining about choosing KP, as regards thai BL industry, I think KP is one of the most popular and high budget thai BL series ever made. I personally think it's one of the best I've seen up to date.

one of my favorite bl's is "old fashioned cupcake", but it's very rarely mentioned. there are no fights and intrigues, sudden plot twists, just a show with which you can spend your evening pleasantly and warm your heart🫂

Thai BL is always a circle of gays with a single straight friend😂 and sometimes they don't always have that friend haha

Boys its a remember BL WORLD.. in this world people just are .. they are telling stories and the characters happen to be of the LGBTQ + community ( and you will see almost every representation there is ) ... and the genre will vary from Mafia , horror , university , high school .. you will see dark to cute and fluffy . .... you can watch by trope as well... Rich Daddy , Enemies to Lovers, Romance , comedy ... . I guess you guys miss my comments ... DO NOT watch through a WESTERN Lens

Kinnporshe was so popular at its premiere that it later had its Kinnporshe Word tour ! Bonus fact: the actor who plays tankhun is openly gay and adopted a child and is raising him as a single parent. ❤

Tankhun is very over the top, but there's a reason for it. (I love that Jeff Satur was in consideration for this role. There are clips on line. 😂) But seriously though, Tankhun is the GOAT. He's the older brother btw. Kinn is the middle child.

The under the water meme is universal at this point

KinnPorsche as a first BL is INSANE🤣"Gay Mafia"🥰.

Love that Tankhun is here now 🙌 He was my favourite character in the series and will be serving looks for the rest of the show 💁‍♀️

In bl series everyone is gay. It is like another universe where every male character is gay

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS SERIES IS VERY MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THE USUAL BL SERIES !!!

The Sign, Last Twilight, or Until We Meet Again should be next if you continue your Thai BL journey LOL Oh and hunting for product placements will become your new norm 😅

I absolutely love that you diving head first into the BL universe! KinnPorche is one of my favorite series in Thai BL, yes there are some morally grey moments but I think the show does a good job a confronting them. One series I would love to see you react too is Love in the air, following two main couples. Welcome to the BL family ❤️

The point is that in KP, being queer is just one more part of the caracter and the romance are building to be also one part ofthe show. The drama, crime, thing, everything is so well balanced, well acted, is one of the best bl ever!❤

I recommend The Eight Sense and Bad BUDDY

im waiting for the twice a week upload of this show so baad

Story that is not in the series: They are a mafia family, each child is born rich and is encouraged to build their own strength, until one day the family was out of control, with a main branch and several secondary branches, until Kinn's father decided to unify everything and he went out killing anyone who didn't agree (uncles and cousins) after several years of unification, the younger brother asked for permission to form the second family and Kinn's father allowed it

I appreciate that at the start, you seem to have read or have had someone read all of the comments we made under the previous video. It is very encouraging that when we write here, the info does sometimes get back to you so you can have more info about how to approach a topic or genre that might be newer to you culturally or societally.

If you ever wanted to get into korean BL, “love for love’s sake” storyline is so unique! (Atleast to me) the description with ZEROOO spoilers is about this guy finding himself transported into a video game and his sole mission is to bring happiness to the other main character, or else he’ll die. And he also has to figure out HOW he was transported there and wtf will he do.

I would like you to meet Kim the youngest and most mysterious character of all..... He even makes his own dad cautious of him. He seems to know even more than Kinn but he doesn't jump in unless there is any kind of benefit for him. But damn he knows his dad's dark side more than anybody else. He is calculative, manipulative and very secretive. Even in the novel Dad believes Kim is the heir that can not only keep the mafia afloat but make it grow. But nothing ever goes against his wish. He is very logical and has firm control over his emotions. Only Tanakhun (eldest son) is aware that he is very nosy unlike others who believe he is just an artist.

All of these handsome men already, and my favorite character hasn't even been introduced yet! Also, there's morally grey, and then there's...this. Don't say we didn't try to obliquely warn you!

In BL everyone is gay 😂

I know you guys react to series and not to stuff like this but i really really really want to see your reaction to the dance by Akash and Raktim in India's best dancer 2....i know you will enjoy it

Arm, Tankhun and Tay are the faves for me~. (Arm being the gent in glasses with the guns, he proves to be an amazing friend to Kinn. He also is Tankhun's official bodyguard with Pol. Tay is Kinn's silver haired friend. We love Tay. Tay is a giant green flag. And Tankhun cause he's Tankhun. I also really love Chan, who is the older gentleman who is the leader of the bodyguards. His nickname in the fandom is Daddy Chan. Daddy Chan is perpetually exhausted someone please let him take a nap.)

i think that that one of the best bls that shows good queer representation is Not Me, in my opinion it is an amazing bl !!!!!!!

You guys are hilarious and I have fun rewatching the series with you. Hope you don't get scared off the darker parts and drama bits of the series and pull through to the end ;)

KinnPorsche is ethically wild like Interview with the Vampire is. Mafia members and vampires don’t play by the same rules as average citizens and struggle to have non-toxic relationships with each other. I think if you can watch IWTV, you’ll be fine.

These episodes are just a basement for the Tower... Keep going and than you will not be able to close your droped jaws. That's why i love this series 😅

BL is 80% morally questionable. It always seems to be a plot point....TharnType, Kiseaki, Love in the Air, HIStory series, Bed Friend....morality is always questionable

Sailing down the Chao Phraya river on my way to Wat Arun in Bangkok playing Jeff Satur's Why Don't You Stay was one of the highlights of my life, driving a scooter around the university campus in Chiang Mai and play Britney Spears' Toxic is another one 😂

As for the title they chose for this reaction : "Back with Thai BL and bodyguards" , I wonder how they would have felt like if they had started with Unforgotten Night . Alex would have been killing it I think.

Most of the characters in thai bls are gonna be gay😅. That's how it works.

Tankhun and Vegas are the best imho, but this whole cast was so good. I need to rewatch the series again.

They're about to meet tankhun and Vegas ! I can't !!

There are upside and Downsides to Starting with KP. Upside is it adquestly preps you for the crackhead energy the BLs are riddled with and is a middle ground to start off. There are Low Budget-Great Story BL above them and High Budget-Low Story BLs below. Then there are the exquisite set of BLs that are just so extraordinarily beautiful that can't dare to talk Budget around them. So... Here is my suggestions. Although the industry is wildly dominated by Thai BLs. Do explore Taiwan, Japanese, Filipino and Korean BLs. Mainland China has some Bromance shows and low budget BLs but you REALLY need to be accustomed to reading between lines to appreciate them.

Love to see new people getting into BL :) Just a few more facts on BL for you (as someone who studies the genre and Thailand. You can also find a lot of essays on the genre as it has been very seriously studied for the last 5 years or more): 1- BL rarely say that this or that character is gay, characters are always implied and showed as gay but rarely labelled as one. Regardless of BL popularity and the recent law for same sex marriage, Thailand is still not very open on the subject (the gouvernment sees BL as a way to expand its international influence and as Thailand soft power). BL are not fighting for the LGBTQ+ communty's rights, they're only here for entertainment. Also, BL depict romances between beautiful men (handsomeness is actually one criteria to chose the actors) in a world were the LGBTQ+ community is perfectly respected and accepted. In that way, very few BL show the struggles of coming out or being accepted as who we are 2- BL are mainly written and thought for a female audience 3- you rarely see female characters and if you see some they are minor characters with little impact on the plot 4- Thai acting and story telling is very different from Western norms. Screams, loud shouts, overreacting and overacting is very common

Fun fact about the the choking scene: Apo (Porsche) teache Mile (Kinn) how to choke him "correctly" 👀😜 Like Kinn was "really choking Porsche, of course Mike didn't apply pressure but yeah 👀🥵

wait until they get to episode 3 and 4 😀

i like this show but my favs are only friends which is quite messy and the eclipse which is softer but still adventorous. really good representation is in moonlight chicken so i think you would love these

Morally questionable, but unlike most dramas, they actually acknowledge and deal with said issues. They don't just sweep it under the rug and move one. It's actually brought into the plot. (Also... this is mafia, so.... the whole thing is really on a tightrope, really.)

Maybe you'd like to watch and react to Korean BL and Japanese BL too. I'd love to hear your thoughts about it especially on how you think it differs in each country. For Korean BL, I highly recommend The Eighth Sense and To My Star S1&S2. For Japanese BL, there's quite a lot of interesting shows but Cherry Magic and Old Fashion Cupcake received good reviews from the viewers.

I've been watching bl for around 4 years now, and I don't even give a second thought on how open and apparent everything is, as it's just part of most of the shows, and I love it. I'm really glad that you've chosen to watch bl's and I hope you give other series a chance after this one... as with others saying maybe not the best one to start with (just down to the dark parts) but I did really enjoy watching when it aired. May be get a few bl series names and do a poll on which bl to watch next as I'm sure we all have a few favourites that we would love you to react to

I knew Alex would find the apple situation hot ..hahahah BTW By the end of KP Alex will be considering moving to Thailand and after he has been introduced to the GMM Boys .. Josh will be doing these reviews ALONE!!!!

Me: Woooo! They're watching my favourite show! This is hilarious! Also Me: Guess it's time to re-watch KP again...

I am LIVING for these reactions omggggg you guys are so funny and I just finished my 4th kinnporsche rewatch!! please watch until the end I need to see it all

Love it, here some suggestions for BL series The sign Last twilight Only boo The stand in Wandee goodday Love in the air Not me My school president Pit babe Only friends Moonlight chicken Never let me go The eclipse

I have some show recommendations: Never Let Me Go Pit Babe The Eclipse Not Me Bad Buddy Moonlight Chicken Wandee Goodday (Currently Ongoing) My Stand-In (Currently Ongoing) Cherry Magic (Japanese and Thai) My Love Mix-Up (Japanese and Thai) Semantic Error (Korean) The Eighth Sense (Korean) Very good shows, highly recommend. (Most of the shows listed can be found on the GMMTV YT channel for free. :))) And, imma tell you, I have a bingo list of tropes I’ve created whenever I watch a BL. “Sponsorships in show” is one of them. “Side pair/character superiority” is also on the list. My question would be for you two is who is currently your favorite character while watching KinnPorsche? Love that you guys are enjoying the show, looking forward to the next episode!

I‘am waiting soooooo hart for ep 3 what will you post in on youtube

Don’t forget watch the OST AS WELL THEY ARE AS IMP AS THE EPISODES. Thai bl songs play a huge part coz it’s sung by the leads or one of the main cast. Who btw is a huge star there in Thailand Jeff Satur.( one of the main cast)

Please react to Omar Rudberg Talk mv! It’s amazing and full of queer joy🫶🏼

Not me waiting impatiently for u guys to react to Ep3... I CAN'T WAIT

One really good Thai bl is I told sunset about you, is a really visually pleasing show with good plot about discovering one self and is a little shorter( 5 ep with I think 50 Min each) but is a really good show that is more of a emotional one!!❤❤❤❤

You’ll find watching Thai BLs in particular that there are some ethical differences between Thailand and the UK. I will say, the series gets better from now on, less cringey moments lol. Found this reaction as always, hilarious. 14:33 here I think it means more passing on genetics than ‘breeding’ 😅

I cannot wait for you to get to some of the episodes coming up! Your reactions are going to be....quite the thing! And I have to join the folks who are saying, "You wanted to try Thai BL, and you started with KINNPORSCHE?????" I mean...it's a bonkers fun show (and super f'ed up in the best way,) but...whoa! It's a lot for a first BL show. If you want a more balanced view of the genre, I'd try "Bad Buddy" or "Tale of a 1000 Stars." Or maybe "Until We Meet Again" or "Moonlight Chicken" if you want something a little more emotionally heavy.

Once you go down the BL route you can’t get out of it I’m addicted now 😂 kinnporsche is one of my favs it gets hotter and better throughout !

I'm not gonna give any spoiler but the upcoming episodes and the last episodes are full of story twist.. when i was watching the series i can't wait for the new ep which came in sat and sunday cuz it was so exciting and full of curiousness and i'm sure you're gonna be as well..

Ok next episode when ?😂 U guys are so funny

I couldn't stop laughing, had to stop every two seconds to take a breath 😂 Love your reaction❤

This is the most famous Thai bl at the moment so I think you should react to semantic error which is Korean and broke records in Asia which was surprising due to it being bl since majority of Asia is homophobic but it’s very good and based off of a manhwa

please react to omar rudberg talk mv!!! its super beautiful and gay

I think it helps to remember that BLs are romance stories / erotica, meaning that the relationship tropes are common (sexual) fantasies. So like, the power imbalance between a mafia boss and his bodyguard would not be cool irl but is very sexy to a lot of people as a fantasy. Judging it based on morality doesn't really work for this genre, in my opinion. Thai BLs are very indulgent and I love that about them! And yes, (almost) everybody is queer :D There's also often trans women as side or background characters, which is so cool.

this should’ve been your 5th bl series you watched or something other then first this has a totally different aspect on bl and it’s a lot more spicy haha I think starting off with softer and cute bls like cutie pie, middleman love, bed friends, my school president or toncholontte would’ve been better so you can see the aspect but regardless don’t let this stop you from checking out others and don’t expect them all to be like this or have the same graphics !

please react to talk mv by omar rudberg its sooo worth it!!!!!!

Oh god I love you guys..😊❤ "the Eight Sense" and "Semantic Error" are great korean BLs.. I also really liked the thai show "TharnType", although it's a bit homophobic at the beginning (but there was a story behind it).. and a really cute one was "My Only 12%"..

also, thai dramas tend to have lots of comedy and chaos in them but it disappeares almost fully after that

Oh you guys have an uncut reaction OMG! That’s great!! Let’s me move there🤭🤭

Hehehehe I’m looking forward to your reactions for the next episodes 😂😂😂

Can u plz do more thai bl like, Fish upon the sky sooo funny, Never let me go, We Are, Star in my mind, Love Sea, Cupids Last wish, The eclipse, Ourskyy2, My school president, Between us, The Trainee, Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 😊❤❤❤