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@The_Black_Caps
@The_Black_Caps Месяц назад
"backup twink" lmao i am dying 😭
@MavenCree
@MavenCree Месяц назад
Phrase of the week!!!
@The_Black_Caps
@The_Black_Caps Месяц назад
@@MavenCree ong 😂
@MavenCree
@MavenCree Месяц назад
"Why does he have a gigantic picture of himself?" LOOK AT HIM!!!
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
FACTS !
@ashdee24
@ashdee24 Месяц назад
real
@gue83
@gue83 Месяц назад
the self obssession is justified😆
@umachandra7962
@umachandra7962 Месяц назад
I mean yeah that's jeff fuckin Satur🫠
@epicskyline
@epicskyline Месяц назад
truer words...(also, welcome to BL, where every character inexplicably has solo pictures of themselves decorating their rooms)
@inchresting28
@inchresting28 Месяц назад
7:33 the word they were using was “faen” which is gender neutral, the translation was off there
@milkayukii1333
@milkayukii1333 Месяц назад
don't think it was off, I think Kinn really meant "girlfriend", since Porsche saw himself as a straight guy before Kinn
@inchresting28
@inchresting28 Месяц назад
@@milkayukii1333oh yeah the implication was probably there, but the word faen itself is gender neutral tho. porsche does use the word for ‘girl’ where he asks him why he never sees any girls around
@JolieGirl2002
@JolieGirl2002 Месяц назад
@@milkayukii1333 yep! I agree with this interpretation as well (thai person here)
@HangryKitsune
@HangryKitsune Месяц назад
Porsche hooked up with girls before (as we seeing ep1). He's bisexual.
@Jia21
@Jia21 Месяц назад
I think you should remember Kinn is a mafia boss. It's not supposed to be a light and fluffy show because the characters are morally corrupt.
@dorkistan6344
@dorkistan6344 Месяц назад
Let's be honest, the only one in this show who truly gives mafia vibes is Vegas, all the other characters are way too fluffy and cute
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsim
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsim Месяц назад
…I think some of y’all need to reevaluate what “light, fluffy, and cute” means 😅 A lack of SA doesn’t mean fluffy. And a character who WOULD SA someone isn’t cute. There are two extremes on both ends and a large middle ground that y’all seem to be missing 😬
@samrodriguez5653
@samrodriguez5653 Месяц назад
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsim its a fictional show. if youre going to assign moral judgements to viewers for their opinions on fictional characters in a fictional universe then maybe your priorities are in the wrong place. Do you place the same value judgements on murder scenes or are you picking and choosing which things to be upset about? Nobody is saying SA is an acceptable thing but this world isn't real it's not a documentary.
@BrooklynStitcher
@BrooklynStitcher Месяц назад
​@@dorkistan6344 Actually the only ones that give Mafia vibes all the time are Mr. Korn and Kim. Kinn has moments when he shows that hard and violent side. And really we only see Kinn get light and fluffy around Porsche. He becomes very portective of Porsche which indicates he really doesn't want Porsche in this lifestyle. Vegas doesn't give mafia vibes he gives off pysiopath. He was willing to grape Porsche in order to get under Kinn's skin because he knows Kinn likes Porsche. That's not mafia shit. That's just sick and twisted shit. Especially when you take into account he's doing this to his first cousin.
@Army-nl7qp
@Army-nl7qp Месяц назад
@@BrooklynStitcher why’d I read that as porn instead of korn 😅
@Elizcassie
@Elizcassie Месяц назад
Also just to add Vegas and his English got every bl fan on chokehold even though he was proudly waving a red flag 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@veinedevenus
@veinedevenus Месяц назад
😏😏😏
@chatnoir-i8x
@chatnoir-i8x Месяц назад
Bible (Vegas) did go to an international school which is why he is fluent in English. Also, his English lines were improvised as he has confirmed to be more comfortable speaking in English than Thai
@Elizcassie
@Elizcassie Месяц назад
@@chatnoir-i8x Yes I know the multi talented Bible can't wait for his new series to come out
@efkaservicegirl
@efkaservicegirl Месяц назад
This reminds me of that clip from Bible recently. Q from fan: "Vegas was kind of a red flag." Bible: "Vegas WAS a red flag, not kinda." I somehow crack up and melt simultaneously every time I see it because the comment's hilarious but he says it with that beautiful, subtle lilt that takes me out every time I hear him speak English.
@_b.a.a.b.a
@_b.a.a.b.a Месяц назад
Red Flag where, I'm blind to that
@onlyfacts1239
@onlyfacts1239 Месяц назад
Not him whispering "This is Vegas everyone keep talking about" 😂😂bahaha as if he's some Voldemort and you're not aloud to take his name out loud😂
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
Well, now that you say it...
@zuzu6864
@zuzu6864 Месяц назад
I mean-
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
Also, can we all make a pact not to spoil ANYTHING for them, please?
@ivyyap1513
@ivyyap1513 Месяц назад
Yes please! Even just mentioning episode numbers could be considered spoiler-y.
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
@@ivyyap1513 I second that !!
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 Месяц назад
yeah, lets see their shocked faces fresh, especially since they got it wrong so often already.
@RachaDance253
@RachaDance253 Месяц назад
The bodyguard u find cute is a real sweatheart and cutie irl, his name is Perth and he is part Australian so even the way he speaks is cute, he has a youtube channel called Perth Nakhun and he's gonna be talking about Kinnporsche in one of his videos soon
@carda765
@carda765 Месяц назад
Hello, found you friend 👋 I need a nickname for you can I call you babes? I really like the word babes for some reason but if you're uncomfortable with that, I can call you something else. It just feels really empty calling you "friend".
@RachaDance253
@RachaDance253 Месяц назад
@@carda765 ofcourse you can babes 😊
@carda765
@carda765 Месяц назад
@@RachaDance253 thank youuuu 🥳
@nachico94
@nachico94 Месяц назад
« girlfriend » is gender neutral
@myrmidoni87
@myrmidoni87 Месяц назад
omg, Perth was the whole reason I found out about KinnPorsche
@lizlove1890
@lizlove1890 Месяц назад
Oh! I think the easiest to deal with Porchay and Kim is to remember Porchay thinks he’s in a fanfiction / teen romance genre while Kim is in the mafia genre 🤣
@TinaOe
@TinaOe Месяц назад
lmaoooo there's multiple posts on tumblr about the genre whiplash between the couples lol. my favourite has kp as "kinn and porsche are in a fucked up mafia au strangers to boss and bodyguard to frenemies who fuck to lovers wattpad fic" and kim and porchay as "kim is playing sherlock holmes with his own family, and while all that’s happening porchay thinks he’s the protagonist of the hit disney channel original movie starstruck"
@priiifrg
@priiifrg Месяц назад
It's not an alternate universe where gay is the norm. It's our universe. It's true that in BL most or all of the charcters are gay, but there isn't any realistic explanation for that. You just accept it and that's it.
@iciajay6891
@iciajay6891 Месяц назад
Thailand is also supper queer lol. I watched a show headed by a dark skined trans women from thailand.
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
It’s cool to see your reactions to elements of thai BL that probably confused me as well in the past but that I’ve gotten so used to now. Like the mix of very different tones (silly comedic scenes immediately after something very dark and dramatic) or the over-the-top acting. Also, general rule: If a scene feels particularly out of place or meaningsless or the camera lingers on something and you can’t figure out why, it’s probably a product placement. Like the cheese in this episode. How are you so bad at spotting these? 🤣
@Elizcassie
@Elizcassie Месяц назад
Yes it's fascinating when I hear them talk about concepts or aspects that I have normalized already when watching a bl series. my first bl was Tharntype and consent was a foreign concept in that series 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Anna-cl3cn
@Anna-cl3cn Месяц назад
Right?! It cracks me up every time they think something is a product placement but it’s not. Yet they miss the obvious product placements 😂😂😂
@pandaroo7053
@pandaroo7053 Месяц назад
@@ElizcassieTharnType was my second after KP 😭 Also I think consent got thrown out the window when they started making TharnType because that whole show was just 👀
@TakashimchikAkaUru
@TakashimchikAkaUru Месяц назад
If you think that Vegas is hot (and he definitely is) you should watch the trailer of "4 Minutes” - it’s a new project by Be on Cloud, and Bible, the actor who played Vegas, is starring there
@dshweeks
@dshweeks Месяц назад
I cannot wait for July 26th to watch.
@heartsamessgaultier8562
@heartsamessgaultier8562 Месяц назад
Bible is just oozing sex appeal out of every pore and on top of that he is a sweetheart irl. I guess that means he is a really good actor, playing psycho Vegas.
@freewolf27
@freewolf27 Месяц назад
The word 'fan' or 'faen' in Thai can mean both girlfriend and boyfriend or even lover, it is genderless in Thai language. If you told someone "I already have a 'fan/faen'." you can't tell if it's female or male, and Thai people don't care. If someone got a fan/faen, they are taken, period.
@heartsamessgaultier8562
@heartsamessgaultier8562 Месяц назад
Great explanation!
@pruthabhatt
@pruthabhatt Месяц назад
Trust the process guys.. THAT'S ALL i gotta say hahahahaha They'll address your doubts and issues one by one peeling each layer of this Onion🤭. Which is WHY we all BL fans were a bit shocked when you guys started THIS drama as your gateway into the BL world HAHAHAHAHA. imagine the AMOUNT of patience we needed TO JUST WAIT for one episode per week UGH!! hahahaha. Which is WHY I binge-watch them once all the episodes of dramas are out.😅
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
Personally, I’m okay with how they depict Porsche’s sexual assault and its aftermath. I’ve talked to people in the fandom who are survivors of sexual violence and related to Porsche’s experience a lot. But I’ve also read comments from others who had to stop watching. It definitely needs a trigger warning! I’m really excited to see your reaction to the next two episodes. Like I said under the last video, episodes 4, 5 and 6 are a unit in my eyes and probably my favorite part of the show. (The rest is fun as well.) Porsche is my favorite character and he goes through a whole (painful) journey. I don’t particularly like Kinn - definitely don’t like him as a person and only slightly more as a character - but he is the one Porsche loves (for better or worse), so he has to be part of Porsche’s story. My favorite thing about Vegas (a character many fans worship) is his fucked up relationship with Kinn. Those two have such an interesting dynamic and Porsche is often caught in the middle.
@sarajadhav3239
@sarajadhav3239 Месяц назад
Why don't you like kinn ? I am just curious about that
@alischrot
@alischrot Месяц назад
wait what about ep 7???? that's like the cherry on top of the trilogy of 4/5/6 😌
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
@@alischrot in my mind, that's a new chapter of the story. I can't explain it, that's just how it feels. LIke it's a new conflict between Porsche and KInn idk
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
@@sarajadhav3239 I don't know. I don't like his actions (how he treats Porsche), which is why I don't like him as a person. And as a character he's just not as interesting to me as other characters of the show. Which probably boils down to me not identifying with his (internal) struggles all that much. There are a lot of elements that I could strongly identify with (him being an older brother for example) but it just doesn't come through for me, idk why. Pete for example is my absolute favorite character in fanfics because sometimes his POV feels like something ripped out of my soul. And with Porsche, I just built a very strong emotional connection, I feel his pain very intensely and his character development is just amazing.
@chiadikobi7995
@chiadikobi7995 Месяц назад
@@imaginareality I don't mean to be rude, but they requested no spoilers and this whole discussion is a huge spoiler for them. I kindly ask that you respect their request. Thank you.
@italoaraujo71
@italoaraujo71 Месяц назад
I will say this, KinnPorsche is notorious for being really dark, all the characters are really bad people (not all of them, but you get the point), BL doesn't go there usually, most BLs are more cute, so when you guys said at the beginning of all this that people were surprise that you chose this one to start your BL journey, it's because this one can be a lot if you don't know the basics of Thai BL and Thai queer culture, This BL represented a shift in BL to more dark and adult themes. Also there's a lot that can be said about the dubious consent trope in BL, this is more of a old school japanese BL thing, but sometimes it leaks to other BLs from all over Asia, BL it's fascinating to me because it's like another world of tropes and ideas about queerness.
@mz5863
@mz5863 Месяц назад
OOoh yes, yaoi is has a lot of examples of romanticizing SA... even slavery :'D Not to mention it can be so majorly catered to straight. The uke seme thing... my god. I do think Thailand has some examples that hardly come from Japan but seem to be a general backward view on consent. Or... maybe less forward; like the moral is not quite developed yet. You see that mostly in shows that are obviously catered to straight. I feel KinnPorsche has some rightfully placed dubious consent scenario's. Or just morally low scenario's as you can expect when watching a maffia show. I like that they don't shy away from that. I do think they lack a little bit in teaching what should have been done instead. Like have a character be the moral voice to explain what's okay and not. I feel Porschay is that a little, but not quite enough. That would be good to see, the younger generation standing up to say: we don't accept this. What I loooooove about Kinnporsche is that they handle queer quite well. There isn't a very obvious bottom/top relationship between Kinn and Porsche (well there is, but not as much as the usual BL). Porsche makes his own choices, doesn't come of as a victim and isn't easily manipulated. Bottom emancipation! That's why this scene is probably not so shocking for people who've been watching BL/yaoi for a longer period. Which... is kind of proof how problematic that world actually is and that we should really move away from those shows that have normalized dubious consent and unrealistic depictions (of queer characters.) You just need one person being taught a wrong lesson through media to possibly destroy a life.
@italoaraujo71
@italoaraujo71 Месяц назад
@@mz5863 well said.
@maliniras
@maliniras Месяц назад
@@mz5863 and who should be the moral voice? In Porsche's current environment, who can advise him realistically speaking? He didn't even talk about it to anyone not even pete
@mariwolfie5548
@mariwolfie5548 Месяц назад
As I am one, who told you to clearly advertise that please no spoilers, I will try and say this as spoiler free as possible. BoC made a public statement about drugs and consent, when this episode was released. They knew this wasn't a topic to take lightly. It's not treated as nothing. I haven't seen many/any (BL) productions that made statements, after having such a scene in their series, but maybe there are some. This series will continue to venture into more gray areas. The mafia world is brutal. Some things will be so dark gray they're practically black. This series also has some of the most heart melting and romantic scenes I have ever seen on screen.
@chiadikobi7995
@chiadikobi7995 Месяц назад
I don't mean to be rude but as you stated, they requested no spoilers, and don't you think this seems like a spoiler? I really enjoy their reactions but them knowing what will be addressed has now removed the discussion they could have had about still wondering if it would be addressed. I just wanted to present another perspective as a new fan of their reactions because of KinnPorsche.
@mariwolfie5548
@mariwolfie5548 Месяц назад
@@chiadikobi7995 It's why I started my comment like I did. They can quickly skip it, reading there will be a bit of info, though I don't give any details at all, neither about specific characters, scenes, or episodes, but I can also see where you're coming from. This comment will be the closest I have come to a spoiler, already decided that before I posted it, but I will still edit a part of it out.
@asjchy123
@asjchy123 Месяц назад
Guys.. you must watch I told sunset about you.. I can assure you, you will looooove!
@missx5464
@missx5464 Месяц назад
YES YES YES YES YES
@chatnoir-i8x
@chatnoir-i8x Месяц назад
They should watch "HIStory 3: Make It Count"... talk about TRUE EMOTIONAL HEART-THROB
@Vhelrk
@Vhelrk Месяц назад
Absolutely not that shit is PAINFUL AND TRAUMATISING (IPYTM is a personal scar for me lol)
@mariaeeb
@mariaeeb Месяц назад
yes!!! but prepare for an emotional journey
@harreth62
@harreth62 Месяц назад
Masterpiece
@inchresting28
@inchresting28 Месяц назад
general reactions to the last scene ranged from anything between “assault” and “fully consensual”, and as for the showrunners themselves, they posted a whole psa on insta about the dangers of GHB and what happened being illegal in real life when the episode aired people i know in fandom don’t try to justify kinn’s actions here. but he did end up being my favourite character anyways lol he’s just
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
I've seen KinnPorsche twice at this point, some episodes even more often, and this is the first time I watched Porsche being caught by Kinn and the back-up twink w/out fast forwarding or covering my eyes. The second-hand embarassment, I can't take it 😅
@Admete69
@Admete69 Месяц назад
Fun fact. Thai BL dramas are FILLED with tropes and we all love them. I’ve been playing BL Bingo since I noticed it 😂. Here’s a list off the top of my head (BL fans, help me out with the ones I’ve missed!!!) -There will be a musician (typically a singer and guitarist) - An out of town trip will be taken (Beach or visiting loved ones are the norm) - For some reason it’s VERY rare that both leads have alive parents. Someone’s raised by an amazing Grandmother - They have to get somewhere (to partner) and run. Ignoring all other types of faster transportation - You will see the same house(s) in multiple series. - Someone gets caught in the rain and gets sick… - All illnesses, nicks and cuts are fixed by a sponge bath 😂😂😂 - if there is a female, 9/10 times your going to hate her. (Everyone loves Menow from UWMA/BU) - Random past/childhood connection - Constant flashbacks/instant replay - lingering eye contact (sometimes with such heat you feel like you’re interrupting) - Messy eating followed by the other person cleaning you up -Frustrating dream sequences. Oh how we often wish they were real. - Cringe. OMG the CRINGE, I apologize in advance and hope you watch the all time Best Cringiest series ever Secret Crush on You. -If it’s a college series someone is studying Engineering and wearing a blue unbuttoned shirt -Sniff kisses -instant replay-triple takes (I never know how to describe it but you will know when you see it) I’m sure there are more but this post is too long. Last a word of advice… College orientation is wild, funny, cute and strange at first to us westerners, but we get used to it
@epicskyline
@epicskyline Месяц назад
As someone who has watched BL for years now, it's been really interesting watching the way the series have progressed, dropping or eliminating some toxic tropes and picking up newer, more progressive ones. It's pretty rare to see the evil female character now, for example, when that used to be practically required. In fact, shows nowadays often add in GL side ships, which is refreshing. Another trope that has thankfully all but disappeared is the "only gay for you" trope. Finally, shows like Not Me and I Told Sunset About You (though being completely transparent, I didn't enjoy ITSAY) have paved the way for series actually discussing queerness, identity, and homophobia in society instead of ignoring it altogether.
@Admete69
@Admete69 Месяц назад
@@epicskyline I too have noticed that the standard tropes have become less and less common over the years. Full disclosure, I’ve only started watching BLs this past February (but I’ve devoured over 150 series since then) so I wasn’t around to see the progression as it happened and am getting a disjointed version of it. As it’s prevalent in some series and not in others. But, I don’t mind it and would love it if someone (once and for all) makes a tropes series. Just do it for top to bottom and then be done with them. Also, I’m saddened to hear you didn’t like ITSAY, I loved both seasons. And yes to No Me. That and KP are my #1 and 2 favorites of all time (so far).
@epicskyline
@epicskyline Месяц назад
@@Admete69 Yeah, I know my opinion of ITSAY is controversial, but I could only make it to some point in episode three before I quit. It was visually gorgeous, but everything else wasn't for me. Love that you and tons of others love it though! Series two may well be a masterpiece! I have no idea.
@Admete69
@Admete69 Месяц назад
@@epicskyline I understand that OO so much. Some of the series make me cringe so hard I just have to walk away. It’s been a goal of mine to finish all of the ones I’ve started so I periodically go back to the ones I can’t take and try to finish it episode by episode but I often only make it a few minutes in before I have to leave again. Ha. One day tho!!! Anyway. I’m looking forward to them getting to episode 6+ of KP after their response about the end of E4.
@haripriyaborah9447
@haripriyaborah9447 Месяц назад
Him saying "Pete is a nice guy, not Pete". I am like same dear same. Pete is my pookie. My favourite character. That boy deserves the world (then suddenly realises he's a mafia bodyguard who killed many people)
@SareenMomo
@SareenMomo Месяц назад
Ep4 was a ride. Whatever you're feeling it's all valid. But I hope you don't drop it midway and keep watching. My favourite episode is coming.😊
@sanddragon1
@sanddragon1 Месяц назад
LOL, found you, Sareen. HI! Is your favorite episode... EPISODE 6?! Just saw your comment and had to say hi. (This is Nemi!)
@SareenMomo
@SareenMomo Месяц назад
@@sanddragon1 NEMIIIII!! HIIIII 👋🏽! You found me!!! And yeah of course it's episode 6. 😁
@LehPires95
@LehPires95 Месяц назад
the last scene is really heavy but the kiss happening as soon as you say "at least he isn't taking advantage of him" made me laugh a little, can't lie
@chasexox5134
@chasexox5134 Месяц назад
Every time you guys upload KinnPorsche I'm so excited! I love watching all of your videos, but BL is so fun to watch you guys react to! Keep up the amazing content and love you two!
@prettydoll83
@prettydoll83 Месяц назад
Yup that last scene was SUPPOSED to feel weird and uncomfortable because it does look like Porsche is being taken advantage of. So y'all are 100% right.
@vincerets
@vincerets Месяц назад
the scene at the end isn't something that the company took lightly when it aired, they released statements about consent and drugs after it aired and the dubcon is something that's addressed between them across the next few episodes in case you're hesitant to continue it because of that. also (i dont consider this a spoiler bcs it was in previous episodes but potenital spoiler territory) big is in love with kinn, its pretty obvious and most people in the show know about it, he's not homophobic or anything like that, i think in that scene he was expecting porsche to have a bad reaction or get him in trouble with kinn but it obviously backfired on him. i think when watching kp its important to remember that this show was groundbreaking when it came to BL, there hadn't been anything like it before especially when it came to the sex scenes - but it is a dark show and plot heavy, sure it has its fluffy moments but it's nothing like the college BL shows where things are all soft and sweet. for me, at least, kp is THE standard when it comes to BL. but if you do want more series' in the same vein as this (more plot driven, suspense, etc) try Not Me the series and Manner of Death both of which are also god tier bl standards!
@shonayy2666
@shonayy2666 Месяц назад
I definitely don't think you need to apologise for how this scene makes you feel towards Kinn and porsche's relationship going forward. This is your unfiltered reaction, and I think it's refreshing to see. As I've said before, I think you're both hilarious and I look forward to seeing more of your reactions!!
@nb7367
@nb7367 Месяц назад
I am living for these reactions! They honestly bring so much joy to my day!!
@locker.535
@locker.535 Месяц назад
“Some people like it rough” 👀 “oh this feels dark” 👀 “I think Porsche needs a holiday” 👀 y’all are into the messiness that is KP now!!! Love you guys ❤
@Nkp_09
@Nkp_09 Месяц назад
Oh i can't wait for you guys to get to episode 6. Its so so so good, and also just absolutely gorgeous in so many ways
@yazzib29
@yazzib29 Месяц назад
Its not really all bodyguards they are trying to get, its just Porsche. I dont know if you remember from Episode 1 or 2, but Vegas' dad told him to watch Porsche because he noticed that Kinn and his dad treated him differently than the other bodyguards, by making him the head of Security for Kinn(The Boss) with no experience or training and not letting them kill him when he made Vegas brother bleed. Wik/Kim also has one of the guards telling him the same info, which lead him to meeting Porshe's brother and somehow connects dots on his secret investigation board thingy🤷‍♀ Basically everyone wants to know what is so special about Porsche. Even Kinn is unsure why his dad wanted him to make Porsche join them so badly.
@lumaklein7576
@lumaklein7576 Месяц назад
“Wtf is wrong with this people?” Me “ a lot? Mostly everything?” 🤣🤣🤣
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
I love Tankhun!
@MavenCree
@MavenCree Месяц назад
Tankhun is King.
@alackthereof
@alackthereof Месяц назад
I was extremely nervous how you guys were going to react to this episode! including my worry that you would stop watching the series completely... I'm glad you're going to keep going, and will be on the other side of my computer sending hugs and cringing with you when things get sus af. this show is a rollercoaster!!!
@thecarterfilez
@thecarterfilez Месяц назад
the bodyguard u find ''cute'' is actually an Australian living in thailand.. he has his own BL series where he is one of the leads.. it's called my engineer the series.
@fantasywatcher6373
@fantasywatcher6373 Месяц назад
I obviously won't spoil anything, but let's just clear one thing out: Be on cloud knows EXACTLY what they are doing, and you were NOT supposed to react differently at the sex scene! The whole point is that Porsche were drunk the first time they kissed, and drugged the first time they had sex = neither were consensual ... As to WHY that is important ... you'll just have to keep watching to find out ;-)
@noxfior
@noxfior Месяц назад
the way the SA is presented in this show is that in this episode, it's from Kinn's pov, hence the "romantic" vibes, but THEN you get the aftermath from Porsche's pov and something more regarding it just be patient, the next 2 eps are important in that regard
@Vhelrk
@Vhelrk Месяц назад
It is beautiful and it haunts me to this day, I’ve never seen it better portrayed before
@noxfior
@noxfior Месяц назад
@@Vhelrk imho it's not been the best portrayal, not the worst either, but either way I feel like you can't judge without seeing the other two eps bc this scene doesn't sit in a bubble.
@Vhelrk
@Vhelrk Месяц назад
@@noxfior oohh, do tell me which other bls you believe have great presentations of it
@Deamonslayer576
@Deamonslayer576 Месяц назад
Vegas is quite an interesting character and his dynamic with the other members of the show is very complex (He also seems to have an aversion to shirt buttons but thats a nice bonus). The diamond auction actually has a subtle double meaning as Porche's last name is Pachara and Pachara means diamond. So its not just money/ego thing between Kinn and Vegas they are indirectly trying to claim Porsche in that scene. Very excited to see you watch how the rest of the plot unfolds.
@suzannepickering-mcculloch443
@suzannepickering-mcculloch443 Месяц назад
writing on the shirt is an end of year thing. like writing in a year book
@codenamebutterfly
@codenamebutterfly Месяц назад
Thankun wacking Vegas over the head with the tray is one of my favourite scenes. I did not see it coming, and he did it so nonchalantly, too.
@Ali-cn1du
@Ali-cn1du Месяц назад
One thing you will notice A LOT in BL is how they all seem to have THEIR OWN PICTURE either in their rooms, in their wallet, in a frame on the wall. Just a massive amount of pictures of them selves scattered like art. I have always wondered why and apparently its not weird in Asia?
@DiabPink
@DiabPink Месяц назад
There is a superstition behind it actually. In some cultures it is done to ward off evil spirits. It's like a stamp saying you can't live in this house or body because my spirit lives here.
@Sujan_Draws
@Sujan_Draws Месяц назад
Kin does redeem himself….sort of? But yeah. A LOT of this story has a lot of toxicity. But then there’s some super sweetness and some highly toxic dysfunction. It’s a good foundation to have some tough but necessary conversations about what is acceptable and what isn’t. I encourage you to keep going.
@fartuunadhi7308
@fartuunadhi7308 Месяц назад
The fact that I have already watched it 100 times still came to see you react to it is literally amazing I think I want to see a perspective of other person how they see a bout my favourite bl
@bromeo.entertainment
@bromeo.entertainment Месяц назад
after every single reaction ep, my thought is "oh just you wait". i love watching you guys theorize, it's so much fun and really throws me back to watching this show weekly.
@taemojkmt4369
@taemojkmt4369 Месяц назад
One thing I will give the company (boc) props for is when this episode aired they put out information on gbh including the issues surrounding consent when spiked with this drug ect. Way too many bl’s in general completely romanticise sa for some weird reason.
@mz5863
@mz5863 Месяц назад
Hahahaaha "He's making a photoalbum, it's just got some dramatic music." I die Rewatching this with you guys is so much fun. Can't wait for more BL content.
@marieschmidt1262
@marieschmidt1262 Месяц назад
There's a reason why we all said that starting with KinnPorce as your first BL was risky. With that being said, let it play out. The story isn't done yet! 😊 Also, I would really like to recommend the break down analysis that Gaywatch has made of this scene. She goes into all the bits and pieces of it, analyzing their every move, sigh and look. And without shying away from the obvious, it does provide a fuller and more nuanced picture of all the things that happen. I'll leave a link for the video as a comment (to avoid getting the comment deleted).
@marieschmidt1262
@marieschmidt1262 Месяц назад
The link got deleted by the YT gods, so just search: gaywatch love scene break down - then it should come up! 👍
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
That !! I was trying to remember whose video it was because it' s been 2 years already. Thank you !
@marieschmidt1262
@marieschmidt1262 Месяц назад
@@issey1456 It is such an incredible in-depth analysis, I still go back and watch it. 🤩
@TinaOe
@TinaOe Месяц назад
oh her reactions & analysis of the show are stellar!
@flippingawesome7079
@flippingawesome7079 Месяц назад
KinnPorsche is one of my all time favorite BLs, it’s so much fun watching you guys piece together the plot. The show will definitely get darker as it continues so please watch with a good, clear mindset❤
@FonCaTokMaj
@FonCaTokMaj Месяц назад
I really love this series and I love it even more now with your reactions! So fun to watch, especially when I already know the whole story
@tsonneckful1
@tsonneckful1 Месяц назад
Oh man I am LIVING for every second of this
@taeshain2026
@taeshain2026 Месяц назад
"I think Porsche needs a holiday" 😂😂😂😂 love you guys
@mariakrylova2266
@mariakrylova2266 Месяц назад
I just can’t imaging how hilarious their reaction would be if they’ll get to watch “Only Friends”😂
@chynascheck
@chynascheck Месяц назад
When you hear a word that sounds like “fan” and the subs read “girlfriend” I’ve come to understand that it is a lost in translation moment. “Fan” or “Faen” roughly means significant other from what I’ve gathered.
@Caiecaie
@Caiecaie Месяц назад
remember what you’re watching (the theme) and always give a benefit of doubt as well
@PettyMamaBear
@PettyMamaBear Месяц назад
I have watched this show countless times and watching your reaction to it is a real treat!! The BL world is vast and varying and I hope you enjoy the journey!!!
@gue83
@gue83 Месяц назад
with the scene in the hotel bathroom, it's not meant to be viewed as sweet/romantic. it's meant to portray real life events happening everywhere though this is a bit tasteful compared to what you get from the novel and of course viewers have to remember that this takes place in the gritty grey world of the mafias. that being said, i've been enjoying the reactions to KP so far, looking forward to the next ones. cheers!
@susankelly5106
@susankelly5106 Месяц назад
Yes this is where you'll meet Kim youngest brother. Jeff Satur 🫠🫠🫠I've seen KP a lot of times, but watching your reactions is SO entertaining & real. There is such a vast difference in the BL world of series/ dramas & l still can't believe that KP was recommended as your 1st Asian series to watch! It has the whole shabang...while most are quite innocent & sweet. ENJOY😊
@Makncheese296
@Makncheese296 Месяц назад
Im so excited for your reactions to the next episodes. Episode 6 is probably my favorite episode in the entire show i love it so much
@juliii02
@juliii02 Месяц назад
if this is ur reaction to the ending Kinnporsche scene, u guys ARE NOT ready for Vegas in later episodes 😭😭
@Meiw7777
@Meiw7777 Месяц назад
lil funfact kinnporsche the series was based on a novel and the sexual violence was actually heavily toned down in the show, i honestly think they handled it well in the show and like i think its reasonable to portray people who were raised in crime and abuse to not be perfect kind lovers. This is a show with alot of very interesting diverse and complex characters but it is not a show about good people who are well adjusted and have a healthy perception of relationships. also this is a very complex topic that i dont think i can go fully in depth here but in the history of bl particularly where i think this genre came from, yaoi manga, themes of rape and sa are very prevalent. these stories are largely written by and for women and often are accused of being fetishistic, which is true in many cases, however i think it is much more complex than that. From some of my own research alot of women watch or read bl because its a way to explore sexuality (and im guessing also these darker subjects that many women experience personally) without them with the role of a woman being involved. Much heterosexual romance and porn even when written by women still have patriarchal dynamics and its hard not to compare oneself to the woman or in a way it feels to real. I think the themes of sexual violence in this genre are because its a way for women to explore or reclaim that horrible experience in a way that doesnt involve them, which you can criticize the objectification of gay men but it is unfair to dismiss or diminish it as many people do. I hope you guys keep watching as even though it has many dark themes i think its an amazing show that does things ive never seen before, it does get darker but honestly i think it gets better too. I also hope you guys learn more about bl and gl as they have so much interesting culture that is very different to western queer media and you will definitely see more stories and themes that are nothing like what you are used to.
@brunellagonzalez2856
@brunellagonzalez2856 Месяц назад
I would watch a 7 hour video just for them to react to the whole thing😂😂😂❤❤❤ love this
@winterpalette11
@winterpalette11 Месяц назад
I swear watching this with your reaction is making me livid. I’m reliving all of Porsche’s antics.
@tanusreebiswas1912
@tanusreebiswas1912 Месяц назад
Now the story starts to get good by the way there is a side story which joins I believe 6 and 7 th episode so please don't miss that while watching it is very important part of story Side story is uploaded on RU-vid
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
Don't worry they are regularly reminded about it, also on Discord and on Patreon. Will they cover it like a regular episode, though ?
@dodido1380
@dodido1380 Месяц назад
Waiting for 5th one kept checking if you updated, it ‘ll be extra excited 🎉❤ hope it is on the way 🥂🧚‍♂️
@parisbrandon160
@parisbrandon160 Месяц назад
Thank you so much for this reaction, some people in the fandom sweep this under the rug by telling themselves it’s a fictional show or that it’s mafia and they are all corrupt. I have loved this series since it came out and it’s one I always circle back to and rewatch, but my view on the actions of kinn will never change. It was WRONG and he knows it was wrong by his reluctance to even kiss him in this scene. Love the video and I can’t wait for you to watch the rest of this story unfold ❤️
@Wh0reRacha
@Wh0reRacha Месяц назад
In the sauna scene when they're talking about girlfriends they're using the word 'faen' which means lover or partner so the word is gender neutral ❤ 4 years of Thai bl and I finally get to use my knowledge of the language haha
@Wh0reRacha
@Wh0reRacha Месяц назад
Also a pet peeve of mine when it comes to translations is when the subtitles say 'no' but theyre saying 'yang' which means 'not yet' lol I just think it's inaccurate
@Wh0reRacha
@Wh0reRacha Месяц назад
In the scene where the curtains open to reveal porche, kinn says 'ai porche' which is a rude way of addressing someone. So he didnt say fuck but I think they decided to use fudge as a way to convey that he was speaking in a rude way
@Wh0reRacha
@Wh0reRacha Месяц назад
Kim writing his name on porchays shirt is a very common thing to do in Thailand. When it's valentines day all the students are handing out heart stickers and sticking it to the shirt of the people they like and sometimes write a sentence. When it's graduation, they write words of encouragement or thank you messages on their classmates shirts ❤
@Wh0reRacha
@Wh0reRacha Месяц назад
When they're betting the money it's bhat not dollars so... bhat is not worth that much lol
@MavenCree
@MavenCree Месяц назад
Thanks for that. This was my first Thai BL, (of many since), but I hadn't caught onto that yet. 👍
@abbyortiz132
@abbyortiz132 Месяц назад
The reason it kinda seems all about the bodyguards, mainly about Porsche it’s because it is. Like in the first episode, in the end (Korn) was playing chess with his main bodyguard and he was like “we finally have the missing piece.” He could be talking about the chess pieces, but it’s still metaphorically speaking about how Porsche is the last piece to this. Also, I believe towards the end of episode 2…Khan (Vegas’s father) told Vegas to get close to Porsche that’s why he’s near Porsche and being nice to him. You finally saw the beginning of Chay’s (Porsche’s brother) and Kim’s (WIK) story beginning. Their first interaction had me giggling. It’s very different from the other storylines in here…they are my favorite. It was evident in this episode that Kim felt something towards Chay, but it changed as soon as he found out Chay was Porsche’s brother. So therefore, Kim has Chay on his list now since he doesn’t trust Porsche. Everyone (EXCEPT CHAY) are morally grey. They are grey characters. The ending scene was supposed to feel uncomfortable, and not okay at all…it was NOT supposed be romanticized although I could’ve done without the music. Still doesn’t take away the fact what Kinn did wasn’t okay and that I didn’t like what happened. Especially with the after effects that Porsche experiences the next day 💔. However, this is the mafia world and dark, morally grey, problematic, uncomfortable things are about to happen. You can say they are not okay and express your thoughts/feelings cause they are valid but just wanted to let you know.
@imaginareality
@imaginareality Месяц назад
You're really funny in this reaction!
@DebM88
@DebM88 Месяц назад
To me the sex scene is pretty grey zone. On the one hand Porsche threw up and got most of the drugs out of his system, he knows where he is and who he's with, he can have a coherent conversation and has the mental clarity to remember the kiss and use that information as proof to win the argument of whether Kinn likes him or not, he is also the one to initiate the sexual encounter by touching Kinn. On the other hand, I feel like Porsche was not ready for what happened and would not have given in so easily had he not been on whatever it is they gave him... You could say it's not necessarily a sexual assault, but it could be considered as taking advantage of someone and it was wrong of Kinn to do it.
@counsellour
@counsellour Месяц назад
Your reaction to this episode speaks to one of my critiques of these shows based on books. By this episode, when they reveal that the youngest brother is the musician WIK, you are supposed to realize that he's kind of a brain who has been researching the leak in his family for a long time. You are also supposed to know that he's been suspecting Porche because of how he was some random outsider suddenly brought into the inner circle. And, finally, that he did not have any idea that the young teen superfan he met at his alma mater is the younger brother of Porche until the moment he got the file.
@annestargram2162
@annestargram2162 Месяц назад
Please gorgeous guys, if you wanna watch a brighter BL without all the triggering parts of Kinnporsche I highly recommend to you Love sea, which is still airing. It's the perfect combination of a realistic plot, steaming hot scenes, romantic atmosphere and it's literally a masterpiece about consent /respect /a whole green forest 😭✨✨✨
@champagnelovers6012
@champagnelovers6012 Месяц назад
hello jeff (kim) love of my life. honestly thank this series everyday for introducing me to jeff satur. one of the most talented beautiful people you'll ever come across. i really recommend watch the pilot for happy ending series. jeff is producing it himself. also doing writing, music for it. hes amazing.
@nusarahne9228
@nusarahne9228 Месяц назад
I can't wait for you to see episode 6, you're gonna love it
@kibomira-ai3407
@kibomira-ai3407 Месяц назад
I am screaming at all the right places like I haven't already seen it. 😳 Guys, please, at this point you HAVE to finish reacting to the show. 🙏
@kibomira-ai3407
@kibomira-ai3407 Месяц назад
23:42 i am SCREAMING🤣
@gloriawilliam7518
@gloriawilliam7518 Месяц назад
One of my favorite episodes ❤❤
@o0yayoi0o
@o0yayoi0o Месяц назад
When Kinn was asking about Porsche's "girlfriend" he actually used the word "faen", that is a gender neutral world used for a partner (we could say that is the same as using "lover" in english). On the contrary, Porsche used the same word but with another word in the end (like faen-something) and in that instance he was asking about Kinns's "girlfriend" demostrating that he is a really clumsy and clueless boy 🤣🤣
@sslp5762
@sslp5762 Месяц назад
The SA was so much worse in book. It was literal R*pe where Porsche was actually trying to stop Kinn multiple times but they depicted it in much better and sensitive manner in series.
@HangryKitsune
@HangryKitsune Месяц назад
The novels are trash tbh and I am glad they changed a lot from that. I always wonder how they use all these weird bad novels and fanfics as base but still manage to create amazing shows out of the source material. The only novels (from the few I dipped into) I like are from Sammon and the Pit Babe novel is fun too but it's a lot of sex scenes mixed with some plot 😅
@mariakrylova2266
@mariakrylova2266 Месяц назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@HangryKitsune I agree with that. There are some BL novels that are so trash and full of violence, especially some that are supposed to be more spicy. I just couldn’t bear to read some of it! But to be fair, BL novels that are fluffy and cute or are also exist! And I’ve also read Sammon’s «Manner of Death» and enjoyed that a lot - this is a decent detective story that has bl love story very gently and subtly ingrained in it. Series are quite nice too, though the story there is a bit changed. The other novel and a series I enjoyed is «A Tale of Thousand Stars» - the book gives a lot of cultural insights on one of nothern Thai tribe and the love story there is classic romantic slowburn. And it filmed beautifully too with an amazing director and actors and crew (loved watching the bts😊)
@HangryKitsune
@HangryKitsune Месяц назад
@@mariakrylova2266 I don't mind violence and dark stuff, it just depends how it's treated, how the characters react to it, how the tone of the story is. Like when we have morally grey and dark characters being mean and violent then this makes sense for them and we know these guys are bad from the start. But for example there are some novels out there where the tone is so off... the morally good main character, you are supposed to sympathise with, does things out of the blue for shock value that are really bad. But don't fit the character at all, it's just brushed over as revenge or messing around but it just doesn't make sense nor does it get explained why that character suddenly snapped so bad there for a moment and threw all their morals out of the window. (but that's a general romance genre issue, not just BL it just gets worse when it's by bad writers)
@tanishkaaudichya3916
@tanishkaaudichya3916 Месяц назад
"fucking hell that came outta nowhere Pete's a nice guy" "Or so we think" hhahah i cant wait for them to watch the whole series
@Trashlovedustbin
@Trashlovedustbin Месяц назад
I'm a simple girl, every time I see someone simp over vegas, they became my favourite 😂
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
I 'd love at least one of them to get badly hooked ( because why should it be just us ?? ) . I have a weird feeling that it might be Josh, for all his firm stand on consent. He sounded curious about the "red room" (Stanley Kubrick's fans will think of "red rum" )
@lilykep
@lilykep Месяц назад
In the original airing of the show there was a TW for this scene and a PSA tag about roofies and consent after the show.
@anayansisj7839
@anayansisj7839 Месяц назад
Watching your reactions is like watching the series for the first time! Really exciting!!! I love Vegas so much, he is really messed up and really bad for many things but the actor did a great job with him I just can't help it. Even the actor said that he doesn't want to meet anyone like Vegas in real life haha And yes Pete is very cute and this comes in line with what he told to Porsche in previous eps about them not being good or bad but just doing their job. Pete is a bodyguard that does bad things but you will find yourself wanting to protect him. This two are my favs.
@aru23597
@aru23597 Месяц назад
The thing is in Thai 'faen' means girlfriend or boyfriend....but in english subtitle it was translated as girlfriend...'faen' is actually a gender neutral word.
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
Episode 4 came sooo fast ! I've already seen it on Patreon, but of course I need another fix. I'm also very curious to see what was cut and what was kept... and of course, to read everyone's comments after this. One thing surprised me : how could Josh miss the constant push and pull that went between Kinn and Porsche, the staring through the mirror, defying, bantering, neck biting ( that fight on the barge was hot) , the hot and cold that Kinn blows, the way he can't help himself checking on Porsche . Then the way Porsche complains to Pete about Kinn, the way he provokes him ,but always worried how Kinn will react...I feel Kinn is quite aware of what is happening but does not really understand why, as Porsche is not his type and Kinn as a boss would not mess with a bodyguard. Whereas Porsche is probably quite confused with his own emotions and impulses. Mostly, they can't ignore each other , and that since the first seconds of their meeting.
@nicknAckk_.
@nicknAckk_. Месяц назад
I love yalls reactions so much! Yall are hilarious 😭 this show is quite dark and twisted but honestly one of my favorites, I hope yall enjoy😭
@plainroz6771
@plainroz6771 Месяц назад
So at 7:18 I think (I do not speak Thai but I do know a few words from memory) that the word Kinn uses is “faen” which I've seen used as a term for both boyfriend and girlfriend. I'm not sure if it can also mean ʼpartnerʼ but it is probably just a choice of the translator if I did hear it correctly.
@MT-tb4uh
@MT-tb4uh Месяц назад
Thinking they’re in a certain universe is actually limiting yourself. Open up guys.. this show has more to offer.. just open yourself up.. even the sky is not the limit
@suzieq-7665
@suzieq-7665 Месяц назад
See here’s where it gets messy😅 The internal struggle is real in this and the next episode…but please keep watching🥹 Also the scene of Tankhun hitting Vegas with the platter is so freaking iconic 🤣 Also JEFF!!!! 😩 unpopular opinion: I’m not a fan of his story in KinnPorsche but it was a great stepping stone for him to grow as an artist. I freaking love him and his music.🫠
@kyucloud4966
@kyucloud4966 Месяц назад
Compared to other depictions of dr*gs, SA, and s**ual health in BL, I personally think this series handled it relatively well. They used their platform to spread awareness on GHB and posted infographics (or like an ad? if I'm not mistaken) for this advocacy. Some of the actors themselves, P'Mile (Kinn) and P'Tong (Tankhun) for example, were also vocal about the importance of PrEP and being just careful in general...
@issey1456
@issey1456 Месяц назад
Yes, I remember watching their video, I was thoroughly impressed with this initiative.
@SusanScythe
@SusanScythe Месяц назад
I hope this doesn't count as too much of a spoiler, but regarding the consent issues surrounding the end of ep 4, the show does address it, but it'll take more than one episode. I just wanted to give a heads up on that, as it sounds like it might impact whether you keep watching. The aftermath is a bit of a rollercoaster, and they take their time, but I think that actually works as a way to give weight to what happened.
@kiramakishima7836
@kiramakishima7836 21 день назад
Btw the last scene of the reaction where Kinn kissed Porsche, it wasn't because he wanted to kiss him it was because he wanted to taste what was inside his mouth if there was anything left in there. So he could see what type of drug Porsche had been fed before. I didn't know this but apparently that was what Kinn was trying to do in the original source material the series is based off of. That's why Kinn made a face after kissing him, he was trying to taste the drug.
@Saradeth333
@Saradeth333 Месяц назад
Oh boy. Not sure you’re up for the rest. Particularly as you see more Vegas.
@elinsjoo8122
@elinsjoo8122 Месяц назад
Don't read if you think this is too spoilery, but it's more of a between the lines kinda thing that doesn't reveal any of the plot, but adds some context: Big (the bodyguard who gives Porsche the bag to deliver for Kinn and his backup twink) is actually in love with Kinn. They have already hinted at it in previous episodes, like when Kim/Wik asks if Big wants him to write a sad love song when he finds out Kinn has a new bodyguard and stuff. So Porsche thinks Big is being a homophobe, but really he's just messing with Porsche because he's jealous. It doesn't matter much for the plot, but it adds something to all of their interactions!
@kirimfire8475
@kirimfire8475 Месяц назад
7:38 i don't know if someone has already said that but in thai they use the word "faen" (pronounced "fan") and it can mean both "girlfriend" and "boyfriend" so Kinn is basically asking "do you have a partner?". It's a genderless word so you will get that very often in BLs or straight couples. That's tricky because they're not insinuating eachother's sexualities, even if it's obvious they want to know if they have a chance. Hope this helped! Btw Love your videos, lots of Love from Italy❤
@steveblevins8793
@steveblevins8793 Месяц назад
Your reaction to this episode gives me a clearer idea of what you might enjoy in BL. Choosing a suitable BL series is like ordering food at a Thai restaurant. You can select among different levels of spiciness. KP scores a 10 out of 10, which may not be right for you (due to the inclusion of disturbing situations). A 1 out of 10 (innocent, light, and geared for high school) may be inappropriate, too. I recommend watching LAST TWILIGHT. It's artful, deeply moving, beautifully filmed, and directed by P'Aof, currently the best director of Thai BL drama.
@Nelly-44
@Nelly-44 Месяц назад
" would you like to join ?" ALEX!!!!!!
@lidiafontenla4016
@lidiafontenla4016 Месяц назад
I'm so excited for the reactions to the next episodes💓
@niku.ot7885
@niku.ot7885 Месяц назад
Ohh my god u don't know how much i love Jeff ( the guitar guy). He is awesome singer, and great human being ,his songs are masterpiece. Actually ost of this drama is also his song "Why don't you stay" and this is masterpiece . . ❤
@kemipue
@kemipue Месяц назад
Lol, welcome to asian tv where everyone always has pictures of themselves in their bedrooms/occasionally living rooms 😅.
@carloseduardogomes3720
@carloseduardogomes3720 Месяц назад
Prosch's kidnapping - the jealous child (Vegas) wanting to play with his cousin's (Kinn) new toy first. brothers - Thankun (Kun) the oldest traumatized, Kinn the middle brother and heir, Kim the youngest who doesn't want to get involved with business but wants to protect the family hot scenes. you will need a bigger fan
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