Kioti Tractor CK3510 Review - What We Learned after 3 Years of Heavy Use 

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You bet! I like the sound of that idea!

That's just great to hear. Thanks!!

Good luck! We just ordered a tractor mounted snowblower, so as soon as it arrives, we will do a review and also of one after getting to use it!!

Right on!!

Excellent! We could certainly add a bunch more fun attachements.

It's a great machine!

Very cool! You'll love it!

That's great!!

Awesome! Thank you!

You need to watch other videos before you buy one. Kioti has had a lot of Problems. Look before you buy.

​@@bigbearhungry983 where can I watch videos on kioti problems?

Very nice! Agreed!! thanks

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Thanks for sharing! We agree- have used it for everything.

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Thanks, will do!

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Hope so. Will give an update once we get it!

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Great! This has been the perfect size for us; we have a lot of videos to see what we've done; look at the retaining wall, and trenching specifically

Excellent! Hope the snowblower works out great. We don't regret our purchase at all.

Oh wow. You sure got your money's worth from your machine. I think Bryan is leaning towards Bush hog.

Wow that's fantastic! The quick release is awesome.

How much this unit sir,

Thanks!!

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Well isn't that great! SO glad you've had such a positive experience with your Kioti! Bryan was just talking about adding some bottoms to the backhoe pads.

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Cool!

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Absolutely! Well I think there is some talk about cleaning up the outside of the retaining wall (boring) and getting some select trees from the woods to make our stair railings and posts. I think Bryan is taking a bike break this weekend.

At 300 hours it' barely broken in. Sounds about a 125$ an hour,with the tractor loader backhoe price of 32,000 $ price for the whole unit. plus fuel & fluid changes = 1.5$ per hour for fuel and 2.75$ per hour for All them filters & fluids. Just waite till the 3000 hour mark then it might have paid for itself!!!

It's a Kioti

That was the joke, sir.

The fact we already had bought a trailer made it hard to justify. We do have another dealer that is a bit closer. We sure got our money's worth. You're gonna love it!!!

It's great. we love it!

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Great suggestions!! thanks

Yikes, that sounds like the ultimate hassle. Weeks? who can spare their tractor for that long? Let us know what you decide on.

@Patrick Elliott It's a 2015. New, hard to start. Faulty injection pump. Dealer had it three weeks. 45 hours, developed diesel knock. Tech bled air from fuel system. Didn't help. Took to dealer. Had 3 weeks. Got it back and 10 hours later while checking oil before use it was very high. Smelled like fuel. Back to dealer for 5 days. Injector issue and they changed oil & filters free. Still is hard to start. Dealer can't duplicate the problem ? Blew out 3 lift cylinder's on backhoe. Just took backhoe attachment to dealer. Had it 1 week 1st, 1 week 2nd, 3 weeks last. 100 hours developed electrical issues. "Tractor is pole building kept". They fixed it on site. Tech seemed to know exact problem. Took 3 days to get harness. Intermittent hydraulic issues. Filters constantly changed and system bled. Using the loader will sometimes stall the motor. 140 hours got transmission code. They changed something and it's been OK. Had 2 weeks for that. Right real wheel bearing seized. Dealer had it 5 weeks for that. The fuel delivery system and hydraulic systems have been consistently problematic. There is constant adjustment of hoses that work loose. Quality is just not there. I got the 60 month Power Guard warranty when I bought it which is up. Time to say goodbye.

Be careful with the New Holland. They're made by LS which have had more than the usual problems with their DPF systems according to other you tubers. Also, I've heard Rural King can't fix their tractors in house and has to send them off for major repairs.

Thanks for the tip on used buckets!

We haven't had any issues that we know of particular to high altitude. we are at 9300 ft.

Cool thanks! That just may come in handy!!

I understand that you should put a resistance between them, as straight connection can overload computer during discharge. @@ColoradoMountainLiving

That's a good idea!

Nice! We seemed to have no problems this year with the front chains.

Oh wow!

You can have a double edge cutting edge made to fit your bucket. Bolt on. Will strengthen your bucket remarkably.

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Thanks for the info!

Very nice!

I think you're 100% right about that! Just like mini coopers and other cars these days.

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Yes definitely happy to be living outside of town. The only pain is having to run errands that are in town on the weekends. Bryan works full time plus and hour commute- so about 50 hours a week. Amy works about 30 hours a week from home. I would say not off grid. We are connected to electric power; natural gas and internet; we we do have intentions of converting to solar.

It's been for us!

Well that would be nice. Good to let us know about the gap size.

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Someone else suggested that, so we will try that next time.

oh wow!

Correct. Prices on all brands have gone up a lot

Dont think emissions are a big deal. We have to do the regen process occasionally, but it's really easy, you just let it do it's thing. we have over 600 hours on ours, but the issues we've had have been related to computer programing issues. Our service dealer said they rarely see Kiotis come in for maintenance issues. I'd go with the larger 3510 , since I think it comes with the larger backhoe bucket. Good luck- you'll be happy with it!!

short answer yes- likely will try the fiberglass poles with a painted tip.

It was 10K less than most other comparable tractors with similar attachments. Possibly more, depending on the brand.

@@ColoradoMountainLiving I was hoping you would say that. I thought I was seeing things or maybe looking at the wrongs sites for information. Thank you. This'll be my future tractor for sure.

I compared the SE version of the CK3510 with a Kubota LX3310 and L3560 last weekend because the Kioti essentially splits the difference between those two Kubotas in power, lifting, size, etc. Comparably equipped with mid PTO, 3rd function, draft and position control, the LX3310 was $30,149, the L3560 was $37,046, so an average of $33,598. The Kioti was $27,799. I think the Kioti will require more maintenance and will have enough additional depreciate to negate the lower purchase price. Plus, Kioti putting the brakes on the same side as a split pedal is not a good layout on the HST models. What you save buying cheaper gets eaten up by maintenance and depreciation.

It was $100 to rent the trailer and the tie downs; but then again he did have to rent it twice, once for each trip. LOVE the pallet forks!! thanks!

@@ColoradoMountainLiving At the 10:26 mark it sounded like $500, glad it was $100 instead.

WEll man; wish we had that tip 3 years ago! LOL thanks!!

Yes I have the RK 37 with backhoe also use a large heavy duty trash bag for both tractor and backhoe seats all the time

It will depend on how dry or wet your turf is. You will get ruts of you use on wet soil. It will also tear up the grass and leave dirt if used on very dry soil. Perhaps a lighter weight/smaller machine might be better for your needs. But it does tear up the grass. Since it's mostly dry conditions for us, we end up with a lot of exposed dusty dirt , if you drive over an area multiple times in a span of days.

I think just the rear on this model, no front PTO.

Yes absolutely!

yes we have a snowblower for it, check out our videos on it. Woodmaxx

Bryan cannot remember, he's thinking maybe Tirechains.com; but he got the front chains, not the rear chains.

In St. George the dealership there. they are great, just a bit far to drive for maintennnce.

No sure, do to the digging, we really got our moneys worth out of what we have..Probably woudln't have wanted to go smaller.

The 35 hp has worked out well. i would not have gotten the 25 hp. I do a lot of backhoe and loader work lifting dirt, logs, huge rocks, gravel, unloading materials with the forks. The backhoe is also good just for ballast when the loader is picking up something heavy. We also have a 6' x 2' snowblower which needs the hp. The only thing, which is comfort related, would be a cab.

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YOu remember when the whole thing froze up?

Not very often; like once every few months. You cannot use it during the cycle; which can last 30 minutes. Hard to answer the question about fuel economy, I suppose it's dependent on the type of use.Also DON"T SKIP the REGEN Process!!

Operate at around 2k rpm and you will regen less often.

Operate it at 2400 rpm ALWAYS after warming it. This is a modern tractor and this will not hurt it. It works most efficiently at that speed. It will regen itself automatically in less than 5 minutes. Do NOT stop running it! This the proper procedure. You only have to stop and regen manually if the dash light is blinking. It probably won't even need a manual regen if you operate at 2400 rpm (the PTO speed mark on your tach). Speaking from experience on a CK4010SE. The owners manual states the computer will need to be reset if you don't run it at high rpm which reduces soot and if you don't pay attention to the warning lights and regen properly.

My 2016 CK3510H with 250 hours uses maybe just over 1/2 gallon diesel per hour. I run it 2300-2400 RPMs, great for engine and hydraulic pump. Auto Regen has cycled maybe three or four times snce new. Per the manual, when the regen light comes on, set idle, parking brake, and shift to neutral. Walk away. Takes about 5-8 minutes then the light goes out. Go back to work. No issues other than preventative maintenance. Forks, box blade (with hydraulic top n tilt), loader (have Piranha Tooth Bar on bucket for hard or rocky soil, saves front bucket edge) and backhoe, each all used all the time. Post hole digger next on the list!

That's s good thought. Plowing during a blizzard has it's downsides.

The snowblower is 3 point hitch so you don't need to change the brackets. We take it off during the winter anyway.

@@ColoradoMountainLiving I’m talking front snow blower!

No issues with towing, it was a 3.5 hour drive up into the mountains.

@@ColoradoMountainLiving Are you running stock suspension?

yes

Ah mystery solved!

Think it was related to the cold and not using the block heater. Since we started doing that, no problems this year at all.

@@ColoradoMountainLiving Sounds about right. Really cold starts cause a lot of soot to build up in the cat. Regen is supposed to counteract that, but if it fails, the computer will go into limp mode. Did the shop suggest using a radiator cover during low temperatures?

@@ColoradoMountainLiving We had to use ether on our old equipment and cover the radiators during the winter in Korea. The 800 and 900 series trucks couldn’t reach operating temperature when ambient temps dipped below 15 degrees. When we received the 1000 series trucks we didn’t know how to act on cold mornings. The starting procedure was almost effortless.

Yes ,, important to do your own research.

It pretty much comes down to cost. adding a cab and capabilities for front PTO makes the machine price go up to $10K or more. so it made more sense for us to keep the costs lower. We'll see after this winter if the opinion changes.

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Good question! Perhaps a cab for the winter!!

Never drove a Massey, so can't say.

Seems like he's averaged about 2-3 times per year so far.

At first 50 hours then every 400 hours for the tier 4 engine.

Thanks 👍 Thanks for all the info!

I think the only time we've ever used high gear is the time we drove the tractor down the road a mile, flat road. It just saved some time.

I have a 2610 and hilly property I hardly get out of low range. Guess if I had of went with the 35 it still would have been too small

Are you able to pull a grader box full of stone up your driveway? I want to get the 2610 for driveway maintenance but we have some steep hills and I worry about hydrostatic.

Tandem trailer. got it! thanks

35 HP

Very lucky! thanks

Dang it!

@@ColoradoMountainLiving what dealership(Kioti) did you use in UT? I live close to you guys.

I think it was $27K

Very true. Wish we thought of that last year- because we need the water now!!

LOL

Can you be more specific? I thought it sounded pretty good. What exactly are you hearing/not hearing?

Only hear on left ear very muffled as if your mic is facing away from you behind camera. Hope that helps. I have noticed this in other videos but it is fixed when you change camera view (not editing)

Jade White Dove sound is only on left channel. Nothing on right!

Ok this is good info; we were using external clip on mics; so that must be it. We each were wearing one, feeding into one receiver; not sure how to fix that; I don't hear the difference in the editing via the computer. So you are saying you hear it when wearing headphones?

Colorado Mountain Living , yes. I wear the right headphone when I’m in the clinic in case someone wants to talk to me. And at first I thought you had no sound. I tried the left and your sound was coming from that side only and this continued through nearly 80% of your video. The last 20% had normal sound through both ear phones. So what ever change you made through that point corrected problem. I hope this helps

Who's got a day off?? LOL. Bryan works full time and Amy has her own business. So yes we work hard to buy things.

True. I think they have some waterproof options.

@@ColoradoMountainLiving gorilla tape I supposed 2 be water proof but that doesn't last 4 ever

ok thanks