I really like how they acknowledge the kirby dance is something kirby just does in universe, since dedede slowly walks behind kirby and the gang with a cage while they just pose and leon starts looking confused but slowly gets into it
@@zettarin Since Return to Dreamland? You should go take a look at the beginning of the original Gameboy game and see what, or who, led Kirby in the direction of his first adventure.
@BONK! Unlike Kirby, who temporarily absorbs both Copy Abilities and special powers from his enemies and environment, The Soul bosses and Morpho seem able to retain and expand their arsenal inbetween adventures. The implication here being that they may one day become strong enough that Kirby and his friends cannot hope to defeat them anymore.
@BONK! Well the events of Guest Star in Star Allies are non-canon. Which implies that Morpho Knight is his own being and not a fusion between the butterfly and Galacta Knight. Basically Morpho Knight naturally looks the way he is. It seems he just requires a powerful soul to simply evolve his butterfly form into the divine warrior we all know, love and fear.
I really hope they continue to use Kirby’s “Oh shit” face in future titles. It used to be common in the old Retro ones and then just kinda disappeared.
This is the review I was waiting the most finally, after beating and 100% the game weeks ago, is really nice to see how everyone is really loving this game and the beginning of Kirby's new era
I think it may be hinted throughout several games that the warp portals all come from the technology that the creatures/people created from Fecto Elfilis's abilities. You can see it a bit when you fight the Lor Starcutter, and I think the Nova's and the massive tower from Robobot, hint at it as well. Not sure if it's all a conincedence, or if it is connected, but it is pretty neat!
Fun fact: while the pause screens no longer shows a flavor text for the abilities, viewing the abilities in the weapons shop, as well as the gotcha figures will provide text for the abilities, objects and bosses.
This. There is a LOT of flavor text to go through while in Waddle Dee town. Kinda like that they locked most of it there so that your focus could stay on the adventure when you're out doing it.
@@markissuffering it’s stated that Knight form is only when it absorbs enough power to take it, which means that it’s not just exclusive to Galacta Knight. The two share canonicity in the fact that not every encounter is canon. For instance, Morpho’s Star Allies appearance isn’t canon, but his Forgotten Land appearance is. The same goes for Galacta’s RTDL and Planet Robobot appearance, in comparison to his Super Star Ultra appearance being canon. That’s just how it is.
@@shrimpman. oh that makes sense, i just thought that the butterfly would assume the form of whatever it absorbed first and transform whenever it had enough energy to do so
Funny thing with Sleep. The heal is now so strong that I *actually* grabbed it intentionally at times, to heal up. It helps that dropped abilities now last for a little while after you eat another ability. So it’s possible to drop an ability, grab sleep, heal a bit, and then get your power back.
Not only that, upgraded sleep gives you a buff if you wait the full duration. Just pop the old ability, get a nap, wake up and swallow it again. I love finding sleeps on a stage.
Another cool thing is that upgraded sleep gives you free buffs if you sleep through the full duration. It can be damage ups, speed ups, or even an HP boost.
@@lu2doe funny thing there is that you even get the buffs if you grab Sleep from the ability shop in waddle dee town. And you don’t run out the buff clock in waddle dee town. Kinda puts the buff shop out of business, honestly.
@@RedLuigiGames deep Sleep also doesn’t automatically trigger when you pick it up. Base sleep has Kirby get drowsy, then fall asleep a few seconds later, but Deep Sleep only goes off when you hit the button. It makes the occasional puzzle that has Sleep pedestals as obstacles much easier.
@@enlongjones2394 Deep Sleep's buffs caps at 200 seconds so the item shop still have a purpose for stacking buffs. Plus, Life Up is just a superior Maximum Tomato so there's also that.
Definitely competition.. but man this game is so good, im working on 100% the game and I’m in post game right now, and i feel like the people who reviewed the game didn’t know the post game existed just based on how the reviews talk about the fame
“Okay so you fight a fat penguin with a hammer who goes absolutely bat shit feral and then you beat him, he sacrifices himself while you enter a secret lab, you fight a giant lion, the lion gets consumed into a monstrosity of faces and souls, the monstrosity eats your buddy and turns into an angel and you fight that then the angel throws a planet at you and you run over the angel with an 18 wheeler” “… John did you get in the meth again?”
25:12 I love the complete shift in tone between Kirby fans being scared of actual deities, and those same fans also being terrified of one butterfly I genuinely think Forgotten Land is a MUST-play for anyone that has a Switch, it's such a good game! Exploring the linear levels is shockingly fun with the addition of the Extra Missions! (Although, admittedly, Robobot is still my favorite game in the franchise) And also, I personally thought that even for Kirby standards, this game's music was PHENOMENAL!!! "Northeast Frost Street" and "A Trip to Alivel Mall" are some pretty good examples, and (Like Antdude mentioned at 9:21) Dedede's Theme in this game is such a huge highlight (Little fun fact, "Northeast Frost Street" and "Roar of Dedede", along with various other highlights in the OST, were composed by Yuuta Ogasawara, a newcomer to the HAL team!)
Loved the music, but some of it was kinda underwhelming. A lot of it sounded like they took old songs and changed them slightly to create new songs. It can be very offputting
@@gringusgaming most of it is just updated tunes main theme floral field wonderia theme royal road 2nd wonderia theme castle lololo cave theme and metro on ice rainbow resort kirby house green greens alivel mall tomorrow is a new day beach theme aqua star factory theme loud locomotive background melody main melody factory investigation meta knight theme my friend and the setting sun boss theme song of supplication scattered souls another dimension hunted by the beast probably original but has leitmotif of its here run away there are probably more but I didn't notice
I'm not scared of that stupid insect. I'm more than happy to beat it to death. No, I'm just pissed at it because it got rid of my favorite boss in the franchise, Galacta Knight. The only boss that I was intimidated by and was infuriated when I didn't get to fight him in Star Allies. I don't care if Galacta only exists in non-canon game modes. I hold nothing but resentment and hatred for that stupid armored insect.
"A Full-speed Farewell From The New World A.K.A Beep Beep, Motherf*cker!" "Roar Of Dedede A.K.A Hail To The King, Babe!" "Meta Knight, Sword of the Surviving Guardian A.K.A Elden Ring Boss Title" "Eternal Echo of the Thrilling Tour-our-our A.K.A Madness Mantra"
*SPOILER WARNING* I highly doubt Fecto Forgo or its other forms will be a recurring villain in the franchise, purely because of how the battle concludes with its chaos form. The last remnants of it is absorbed into Elfilin who now becomes the main host body of the ultimate life form. The beast now finally complete with the good half now in control.
@@sinteleon Well, that’s a reasonable assumption to make, seeing as Fecto Elfilin - or ‘Complete Nil Life’ - is probably Void Termina reborn as a friend.
@@jacobschott6955 There is no reason to suspect such. Outside of it being able to generate a dimension within itself and being called the ultimate lifeform, there's no indication that Kirby and Elfilis is anything similar.
20:13 This line has more meaning than I realized. After playing so many Kirby games where the only voice sounds were grunts, laughs, and poyos...my mind automatically detected actual language. Like what?!
As a small correction to your story synopsis, you mention that all the members of the Beast Pack are freed from their mind control. In actuality, it's only Dedede and Leon who are controlled by Fecto Forgo. If you read the other members' lore notes in their figure descriptions, you'll learn that most of them just go along with Leon because they have respect for him that they think whatever it is he's trying to do is the right thing. This is especially apparent in Clawroline's notes where you find out her old name was actually just Carol but she changed it when Leon became Leongar.
after 100%ing, i'm blown away by the fact that there's still more to discover. i had no idea about the secret in the battle for blizzard bridge and paused the video IMMEDIATELY when you started climbing up!! i went and completed it and it was so cool that they put that in the game
@@Arndolio Read my reply again. I want to know every move i can use, no way I would've found things like the vibration attack in morpho sword without the internet. That would be solved with a moveset screen.
@@simpsonsfanatic777 i like how it is, the achievements are easy enough to be achieved if you explore a little the levels and think outside the box, so at most you'll be missing one at the end.
Sometimes it's not really great tho. Like you go through a level, and then the game tells you you missed one poster you had no idea you could interact with, or you didn't notice. Now you have to redo the entire level just to get that poster, and when you're done it just feels like you wasted your time. If only you could keep your missions completed when exiting an already finished level, it would not be as bad.
Same for me. And i love playing them while my family watches a 30 year old going on playing as a pink puff ball that for some reason has to kill satan at the end XD
Funny thing, getting the sword for the Meta Knight is completely optional. So it wasn't until my final fight with Meta Knight for a Rare Stone that I realized getting the sword added so many things to the fight. And then as it turns out, there's more I didn't know about the fight. Being able to take Meta Knight's sword and having it automatically become the 3rd tier sword upgrade and then Meta Knight getting his original sword is just such an awesome, easily missed detail.
11:19 Okay, so Deep Sleep is actually amazing. It gives you a random stat buff when you use it. That means you can guve yourself every stat buff and go into a level with it. No need to buy the stat powerups, you can just get double health whenever you want!
@@jokx4409 damn straight! Super helpful for the True Arena equivalent in this game. Also, having double health bars means that you the sword abilites that shoot beams will always shoot beams as long as you have that extra health bar.
@@darienb1127 Using any power-up in the Colosseum will put a marker on your recorded time. I personally prefer having proof of having beaten it without power-ups, haha.
Tons of great songs in this game. Dedede’s themes (“Roar of Dedede” and “Masked And Wild, Dedede”) are amazing, and the final boss theme has one of the most hilariously extra names for a Kirby theme (“Two Planets Approach The Roche Limit”)
And here we are. Kirby's first full length 3D adventure! I'm so glad that I got to play it blind, because it was absolutely incredible. A n D h E R e w E a R e .
20:14 I loved this part so much. I'm the few people who was against saying Elfilin was bad and this part along with the boss fight to leave the area was amazing. Even if it gave me PTSD due to the themes and location being similar to Splatoon 2's Octo Expansion. In the end I was relieved and happy for Elfilin.
25:12 I'm not scared of butterflies. I just have nothing but resentment and hatred for that specific one due to preventing me from fighting my all time favorite Kirby boss in Star Allies. I greatly prefer Galacta Knight over that orange wannabe. Galacta actually intimidates me and I feel a rush when fighting him. Morpho I find to be a bore due to him being a pathetic coward who teleports instead of guarding against attacks. Galacta is able to take a hit and knows it, considering he actually guards and counter attacks during fights against him. Morpho, especially in this game, pretends to guard but teleports out of the way because he knows he can't take a hit. Thankfully, Galacta hasn't been in any of the canon Kirby game modes so far, so its likely he'll return one day in the future. But the fact Morpho was added to canon Kirby lore before him really pisses me off.
The tease for the thing at the end is the your buddy has a hole in his ear. Down is what it means when a rat has a circle hole in it's ear. Holes in the ear normally mean that it's from a lab that's how they identify them.
I don't know if everyone knows this,it's essential to find the second HAL room,but the number 86 means "haru" in Japanese and sounds a lot like HAL It's also in ID-F86 name!
Not exactly. It's a mix of the number 8 and 6. 八 (Hachi) is 8 and 六 (Roku) is six. 86 is 八十六 (Hachi Juu Roku) It's supposed to sound like a mix of 8 and 6 to sound similar to HAL. Japanese love word play.
Forgotten Lands is probably my favorite Kirby game at this point. It’s really just a natural and fantastic jump to a truly 3D Kirby. The lore is just as eldritch filled as ever. The abilities are all great, the Space Ranger and Dragon Fire abilities are my favorite regular non-referential abilities, but the final ability is my most favorite for how broken it makes you. Also the dodge roll really serves this game well and makes combat feel really good. Hoping this game gets some good DLC, like new levels and returning abilities.
I'm kinda hoping for an Octo Expansion sort of DLC, although I guess Heroes in Another Dimension is a better comparison since it's also Kirby. Some extra challenge + adding more to the lore is what I so desperately want. I kinda miss the game, now that I've gotten it 100%
@@andrewstephenson5825 The game's postgame content is essentially a lot like Heroes in Another Dimension already, so not sure if that will happen. Personally I'm hoping for an update to flesh out the multiplayer a bit.
Agreeable, but I'm just sad the story doesn't go to deep. There isnt a big explanation, barely any setup to the story, and everything happens at the end which is really disappointing.
@@Thegreensheepchannel There IS a big explanation- in form of a both unfortunate but incredibly appropriate and atmospheric lore dump. The story not getting deep is definitely what you wouldn't say regarding the game, especially considering the figurines which give you more insight of the events of the game. It even presents some stuff significant to connecting the entirety of Kirby Lore together! In regards of how the story's told, I'll be honest: there's definitely some very skin-incinerating tonal whiplash at the end, but honestly, as I said before, it does it exceptionally with its atmosphere- hell, it seems like the game wanted you to be confused through the very happy music and voice that played during the unexpected tour of Lab Discovera . There IS somewhat of foreshadowing of the events to come, through the suspiciously lion-esque design of the Waddle Dee Cages and the end of the King Dedede fight of Winter Horns.
9:35 “I can’t wait for them to change it in the next game.” Given how inconsistent King Dedede’s designs have been since Returns to Dream Land, I can definitely see it happening. XD
I like that this forgotten land seems to have a lot of references to crystal shards, like clutter needle referncing Swiss army and the drill ability becoming its own fleshed out ability. It's a cool way to call back to the roots of "3-d" kirby
Not to mention Dedede has his 64 proportions again, Volcano Fire reference to Fire/Rock and Dragon Fire reference to Fire/Fire, Vending Mouth might be a reference to Electric/Ice (Fridge) Kirby, Lightbulb Mouth might be a reference to Electric/Bomb (Light bulb kirby)
My wife preordered this game for me as a late-anniversary gift (for obvious legal reason couldn't get it before it came out). I've got really hyped up by playing the demo before, but man it was so worth the wait. I've been loving every second of it. I completed the main story yesterday, now I'm working my way through the post-game. And all this time I was like "man, Anthony is going to looove this game". This year there are so many great titles coming out on Switch, it may take a while to get and get through them all, but in the meantime I can enjoy Kirby with a big child smile, my wife can enjoy watching me sparkle with joy and play togheter, and I can finally see Anthony making a great video about a great game. Everybody wins.
My only problem with the "friend was actually evil the whole time!" thing is, it's only happened *twice* in the series with Marx and Magalor. Kirby... really doesn't get betrayed very often
What about the butterfly. I mean it wasn't technically a betrayal but I feel that's the point where every kirby's fan trust was completely destroyed lmao.
@@moon4236 I'm not even sure the butterfly is a betrayal. It's landed on Kirby plenty of times without anything bad happening. It seems to explicitly only care about characters who cling to life over and over without accepting their fate.
I love how the Forgotten Land videos are slowly cropping up, because I need to satiate my Kirby appetite in ANY way. It was also fun to see you just excited about the ending as I was!! Great video
I think it's worth mentioning that both Liongar and Elfillis both have attacks that aren't very different from those of Void Termina's, specifically the X-slash and Elfillis' staff-dragging move.
someone pointed out that it would have been more interesting if it was mixxed with other languages I mean, it is chaotic, so hearing other languages not just yours, but ALL of them earth languages. Yeah. And here we are.
Tip for the true arena: Get the [redacted] sword, buy a health upgrade, and enjoy spamming max health lasers because taking damage with two health bars doesn’t count.
The attack buff also helps a lot...and dont forget to keep a heal in pocket aswell, because there is no shame in being cautious and our loveable pink puffball deserves to have a snack on hand.
Buy power upgrades and spam the super charge attack, you beat the harder version of bosses in 30 seconds hahaha this is why Ultimate Cup Z wasn't hard at all
10:54 And she's a ballerina, too! I have a friend that loves ballet and she was happy about it lol 19:28 Agh, missed opportunity to make the other Fleurina a black swan.
"One of the moves here is a direct callback to drawcia soul" Dude, every single soul boss in the series has been sharing attacks with each other ever since canvas curse. Drawcia soul, Sectonia soul, and chaos Elfilis all have the bouncing ball, giant fire ball, and a raining barrage attack, almost EVERY boss gets Marx cutters, Morpho knight took the ultra swords from Magolor soul, Chaos Elfilis got Magolor's portal gimmicks, and Void got basically everything. I probably missed some.
I'm glad somebody pointed out how brutal the target times are. I think there were like 1 or 2 challenges that I didn't pass on the first try, but some of those target times would sometimes knock the soul from my body. I'd would be off by less than a second so often it was painful. I even TIED with a target time once, but thankfully it still gave me the clear.
Lol yeah. The Dragon Fire one was so brutal for me, it took me, like, 11 tries. Edit: And that's only after searching up a video on how to do it, because I generally thought I was missing a strategy. Nope, there's no cheap strategy that I know to it, you literally just have to get good.
@@moonlightgarden1921 Though some DOES require to use the skill properly to actually meet the timings, like tornado practically requiring you to sequence break to hit the timing.
I personally hope that they add a future update to the game where they add a mode where you can play through the game as just Bandanna Dee. Kind of giving him his own game mode that is equivalent to Meta Nightmare and DeDeDe Tour
When I fought Chaos Elfilis, the same exact thing happened to me. I had no idea there was going to be a second part so I didn't conserve hp and I then died to the stupid black hole ability. I even had the space ranger ability too.
This is honestly my favorite Kirby game so far, I've played, except for most of the spin-offs, all Kirby games and yet this one, this one is more perfect than I've ever wanted a Kirby game to be, everything in the game really works well in 3D and I've actually finished the game at 100% in 2 weeks because I love it so much, I still think there isn't enough references to past Kirby games (I'm talking Robobot type of fan service, the entire selling plot of star allies WAS the fan service) but honestly, that's not a huge problem
This game is a masterpiece. All the little details put into it, and the way everything in this game has been polished to an insane degree, makes this game something I don't think I'll ever forget. It's my game of the year, just for how happy it made me.
I remember a little before challenging the colosseum I was joking with my friend, saying, "If one more final boss's soul turns into a spherical ultimate being and starts bouncing around the screen I'm going to lose my shit" I bet you can expect my reaction to the Chaos Elfilis fight.
Kirby's Dreamland in 3D already exists since 2017, it's called Kirby's Blowout Blast. For me Forgotten Land is the *second* 3D Kirby game, and while it's pretty good, it's *NOT* perfect.
@@roostergamerbubsy3d I played Blowout Blast, and it really isn't a Dreamland in 3D. It's a collection of short levels with only three bosses, missing characters like Whispy Woods. I think, if they reworked Dreamland and reinvented it into a full Kirby game, it would be epic. Also Forgotten Land is the third 3D Kirby game, as Battle Royale, even though it isn't much of a Kirby game, it still is entirely in 3D.
This game is a near perfection of a jump from 2D to 3D. Where everyone else struggled to do so in the 90s, this game learned from those mistakes and made sure it would be perfect from the get-go. I just 100% this game a few hours before this video was posted and every second of doing so was worthwhile.
I love how the moment you were about to talk about "The Ultimate Cup Z" I had to stop the video and beat it first in order to go back and watch your commentary over it lol. This was a wild experience.
My only disappointment was that the fact i was looking forward to it so much meant i got through ALL OF IT within 4 days. I’ve just been grinding the true arena to max upgrade every ability. Loved it so much, heavy melancholy that it’s over….for now
I can’t stress how great this game is for the pink puffball. I know Star Allies came first but to me, this is the definitive Kirby experience for the Switch. As usual, debates will be made if it’s the best Kirby but at least it’s an easy contender. It could be the fact they are in 3D but the boss battle are easily one of the game’s best highlights.
IMO both games are going to be what other games of the Kirby franchise are measured up to in the future for consoles. If its a 2D game, Star Allies is the gold standard (Robobot seems to be above that standard), and likewise for 3D. HAL laboratories knocked it out of the park for these games, and they left themselves room to grow in the 3rd dimension
It's just so amazing to think how they nailed their first true 3D Kirby game. Most people struggle when developing a 3D platformer (ahem Balan). But Hal proved given the right amount of time, polish and care it's possible to make a great game in 3D that will be remembered fondly for years to come.
When I first played this game, I was told there was a chance my family would be moving to a new country. When the opening song played, about going on new adventures, enjoying new foods, and all that, with this whole thing about having to possibly move away? It actually got me emotional. Great game for sure, and that song sticks with me even now that the whole moving thing isn't a thing.
I really miss the pause lore stuff but i need to admit that going solo and knowing absolutely nothing about the new bosses was the perfect move for this game,like you are on a post apocalyptic world so it makes sense and also the unexpected voice acting for the ending caught me out of guard and let me very very exciting to see what was that ultimate life form Overall a really good game and hal should be proud of their work