Kirby cannonically cannot die. In every game he just falls asleep when he gets a game-over, at least as far as I know. An eldrich god can't even kill Kirby, only tucker him out.
@@emperorcat621 I’m saying by the logic of Video Game Goku. Most Video Game character can respawn. It’s unfair to say that any video game character vs non video game character would always result in the video game character winning because they can respawn.
In the recent Kirby game, Kirby and the forgotten land, a waddle dee can CRAFT a time crash with the blueprint needed. If someone can CRAFT this type of weapon, and get defeated easily by Kirby, just think of how strong the rest of the Kirby universe is. Also, Kirby can use this item and stop time for a while. SP he's potentially able to wield this weapon, and even use it.
Understand that this is a new upgrade system, could or not be considered lore, 🤔 now I do believe that that kirby is stronger than goku, but it's just because of his lore and his abilities, nothing more, I also believe that if goku was stuck in other universes, he'd be screwed, because he would be at a total disadvantage because his abilities wouldn't work and his power would be totally useless, essentially just an ordinary man...
From my comprehension, Kirby power scaling comes down to a sort of real variant of video game rules. Anyone and anything could significantly hurt kirby, ranging from a mean waddle Dee slapping him to things like black holes, and the results are “ow that hurt you meanie” and “ow that’s gonna hurt in the morning” accordingly.
To help you even more! The trophy in Super Smash Bros Brawl of the warp star says that it is "A warp Speed Item." In that scene, we see the entire galaxy explode. We don't have an exact size of it, so let's just say that it's the same size as the Milky Way. The Milky way is 100 000 light years long. However the explosion starts at around slightly left from centre, so let's just say that the distance Kirby needs to make is about 40 000 light years long. The explosion is on screen for about 10 seconds. One light year is 9.461e+15 metres long and we need 40 000 of those, so our formula is 40 000 X 9.461e+15 The length that kirby needs to travel under 10 seconds is: 378440000000000000000 Metres 378440000000000000 Kilometres 235201988812927284 Miles That is 1262339961867 times faster than the speed of light
another cool thing is that kirby is immune to reality changing abilities because he is the physical projection of a universe so he can’t simply poof away for certain omnipotent level attacks. this is one of the reasons why he beat void, the god/creator of everything
You're missing the point, hakai works if you are stronger than your opponent, nobody in any kirby game can even hold a candle to goku, plus kirby is too slow and goku has more feats than even kirby, goku would easily erase kirby🥱
It’s also canon when Kirby takes an ability he becomes a complete master of those abilities even if who he stop it form isn’t. Therefore ultimate super saiyan kirby
argument over,is goku physically stronger than Kirby is debatable Kirby threw a giant monster on a giant pan to the sun and back Kirby is near invincible and can eat anything in the universe and it can not come back Kirby destroys gods on the daily and can take the powers of any one he eats We also established that he can eat any form of energy and it will heal him so goku wouldn’t be able to use any blast or bomb attacks Kirby solos goku
Ok? Mono from little nightmares can deadass travel to different timelines and Dimensions, capable of inverting reality itself and can slow down time. kirby is weak asl
@wakel ersers bro traveling through alternate Dimensions is significantly better then hitting a meteor light years away smh that's like a planetary depending on how big ftl+ feat
@@lostdracco6744 Kirby exists in all dimensions and if Mono were to use his powers Kirby would copy it from his memories alone. However Kirby wouldn't hurt an innocent child.
Star Dream once pulled Galacta Knight from his prison down an extradimensional road, which multiple characters have travelled down, including Kirby, for a myriad of effects. Galacta Knight used this road to travel through time, earning him the moniker of Temporal Warrior, meaning one needs immeasurably fast speeds to navigate it. Not only did Kirby traverse it, but he also dodges attacks from Star Dream itself, which would be moving immeasurably fast. Combining this speed with Kirby’s Gobble technique, which allows him to instantly grab things without inhaling, Kirby would have no trouble copying Goku, gaining access to all of his techniques, but with infinite energy to pump into each and every one of them, meaning permanent UI, ki attacks above anything ever imagined before, and even though they’re kinda obsolete, all of Goku’s transformations. I don’t believe Kirby could Hakai, though, since he draws his power from a place of peace rather than destruction. Not to mention the sheer scope of Kirby’s cosmology and how he scales to it, which is way too complicated to get into in one comment, but the gist is that he’s really dang powerful, way more than anything DB can hope to achieve in its current form. But all of this is most likely to end with Kirby befriending Goku, and maybe inviting him to join the Star Allies.
they chill and eat food, until another god comes to kirby's universe and him and goku need to travel across all of the kirbyverse in a 60$ adventure for the nintendo switch, which in 12 years time will get a remake on a new console
Kinda does relate in real game though. Kirby launch Marx into Nova making it explode where Nova is the size of a planet like saturn made from metal. And if we add it up with the sub games where Kirby cracked his own plannet or hit a metorer 9000 light years a way in a few seconds it makes sense.
Kirby is likely faster, atleast he is with the warp star which "Moves faster then light" or at least light speed, this was confirmed by whiz and boomstick in kirby vs buu.
Goku was light speed as a kid….. he’s multiple magnitudes faster then light by real world standards. If you wanna use dyspo to downplay this then I could just argue light moves faster in dragon ball
@CreepCalamity “how faster is faster hmmm” well by a lot considering he was dodging lasers as a kid and grew exponentially as an adult when power levels become less linear so by a lot. If you’re asking for pixel scans then I don’t know….. nor do I remember claiming goku beats Kirby. I was simply explaining why moving at the speed of sound and lightning isn’t impressive, not that Kirby gets speed blitzed by goku which isn’t the case. Warp star mcing faster then Marx’s collision into nova that caused its destruction is proof enoguh that Kirby is light speed. “Can goku withstand time crash” I don’t know, we do know goku can bypass time based attacks like with hit and people like jiren can straight up tank time based attacks so I maybe…. “A nuke” the blast definitely , radiation I don’t know . Well buu isn’t exactly a strong fighter compared to goku anyways, his best showings are fighting Moro which he could only do with a specific ability made to beat him from someone buu consumed. Kirby fans are more annoying then goku fans though
Kirby punched through a planet, can travel quintillions times faster than light speed, and with the hyper nova ability swallowed a HEALTH BAR. This shows he eats things through the FOURTH DIMENSION. sorry goku not your time to shine
Gods became irrelevant early in DBZ. The kais are God's and they are like Nappa's level so gods are beneath Goku unless counting the mega ultra super gods (they keep surpassing gods and then higher tier gods are introduced XD)
@@renkurosagi8724 And Ever Since Resurrection F Goku Can Destroy The Universe 100x Over And Surpassed Beerus During The Tournament Of Power With Ultra Instinct Beerus Who Was Way WAY Stronger Than Goku At Resurrection F
Canonically, Kirby's warpstar is faster then the Lor Starcutter which traveled a dimension of 22 universes in 9 seconds. aka, 7 quintillion times lightspeed
Goku and beerus punches,accidentally mind you, we’re going to destroy the whole universe which is more or less bigger than our own universe about 5 times , the db universe ( well one of ) has infinite dimensions in it
@@pablogomesoliveira2677 Kirby has better speed feats too lol, he can travel across an entire galaxy in less than 4 seconds which is the speed of 489 billions times the speed of light, Kirby has a pocket dimension the size of three universes inside of his stomach too and can copy the powers of ANYTHING he eats, he accidentally punched planet pop-star in half effortlessly on accident.
I don't even see them fighting, they just both save the universe (probably even other dimensions) from ultimate destruction. But I do say Kirby is much stronger.
This is true Kirby is so much faster the laser that wiped SSBU out was faster than sonic and Kirby out speeded it until he could teleport that proves his speed is op
Kirby easily wins he can hit an asteroid with just a baseball bat thousands of lightyears away crack a planet just with a punch +all of his special abilities(hypernova,robobot,star allies sparkler, mouthful mode,super abilities) he can move a quinitllion times faster than light on his warp star plus kirby can outrun a black hole and his durability is insane he can survive a punch from goku and many more feats(killing many dimension level threats included) edit:hit cant stop time,its a misconception.He actually moves less than a millisecond in time forward. So goku cant beat someone who stops time
@@troyyort954 kirby has a lot of durability he adjusts it to his enemy so hakai pretty much just does damage on him or put him to sleep also kirby warp star is way faster than goku(and he can outrun a blackhole but goku couldn't)
@@Overdrive-_- warp star doesn’t mean shit if he has to get on it first, not to even mention the fact Kirby can’t just “adjust” to hakai as its an erase from existence move that even works on gag characters, lmao Kirby not gonna touch goku
Kirby has eaten bombs before, from the first game against Poppy bros Sr. To the forgotten lands thrown explosives. The mechanic in smash is to balance game for opponents.
Not super relevant to the discussion but Kirby was unaffected by Drawcia’s deletion move which means Kirby is immune to bullshit existence-erasing attacks like Hakai
Came here after watching a failboat video. Kirby has the raw muscle to take a wooden, baseball bat, and use it to redirect a meteor hurtling towards his planet, causing to fly 10000 light years back into space, through several other planets.
Goku Has Surpassed All 18 Gods Of Destruction Since The Tournament Of Power And Since Resurrection F Has Been Capable Of Destroying The Universe 100x Over
@@hiichur25 I don’t think it’s food poisoning, probably the food mashed together leaving a nasty taste, plus Kirby can’t permanently die. Every time a game over happens Kirby just goes to sleep
A lot of characters beat Goku. He's so powerful in dragon ball from decades of development, and though Dragon Ball fans will argue anything, there's a lot of characters that have been proven to be able to kick his ass. Superman, Saitama, Kirby...Despite the common consensus, the argument could be made that Goku STILL loses to the stronger incarnations of sonic. What it really comes down to is Dragon Ball fans saying "Goku can do XYZ and win." Despite the fact that the characters they put Goku up against are clearly much more durable than Majin Buu, Jiren, etc. This debate is equal parts Kirby being surprisingly strong and the continuing notion that Goku is surprisingly weak.
@@l1stedv0ice59 He did in the tournament of power, he broke out of and destroyed an attack stronger than a black hole in dragon ball super episode 118.
honestly i'm going with goku and i'll start with the cosomolgy of otherworld otherworld is a non physical or metaphysical realm with no concept of space and time, it is also said in the daizenshuu to have the words "choetsu o jigen" which means transcendence to dimensionality, which would qualify as an outerversal realm, the otherworld is apart of universe 7, which goku was gonna destroy, making him outer. goku also has hax negation, like against hit, once goku got stronger, hit's hax was useless, another example is shenron wishes, shenron can't force goku to accept the wish as goku is beyond his power, so goku has to accept the wish. so in conclusion, goku solo's.
Fun fact: Kirby can actually die from food poisoning. This is proven in kirby star allies. When you inhale the dirty fruit Swole dedede throws at you, if you choose to eat it you take damage. I remember testing this in game a few months ago and Kirby actually died.
not on gokus side but you can't think enemies from 1 verse is stonger or less stong, that said, in kirbys verse there is a CREATOR OF MATTER and he destoryed him
It goes like thus. Kirby eats goku cause goku underestimates Kirby. Then goku transforms and blows Kirby up from he inside, as goku has easily destroyed a bunch of universes, and easily destroy one kirby-verse.
lemme say this kirby has ate a universe and also kirby is a angel/ a god of gods or fiction bc anything you throw at him he eats also if goku does too much kirby would open his mouth and a eye would come out and erase goku
Goku Has Been Capable Of Destroying The Universe 100 Times Over Since Resurrection F And Hes Gotten Many MANY Times Stronger Since Then And Is Currently Set To Surpassing The Angels Of His Multiverse Who Are Far FAR Beyond Any God Of Destruction Also Goku Has Survived Hakai Energery In Base So Kirby's Version Wouldn't Work And Even If He Somehow Eats Goku Goku Could Just Instant Transmission Out Of The Pocket Dimension Or Scream A Hole In Reality If I.T Isnt Working For Him
I Dont Think Zeno Created The Multiverse Even Then Goku Since Resurrection F Has Been Capable Of Destroying The Universe 100x Over And Is Currently On To Surpassing His Multiverses Angels Who Are Far Stronger Than Any God Of Destruction Also Void Isnt Omnipotent Otherwise Kirby Wouldn't Have Been Able To Win
Can’t he steal Gokus powers no that’s cheating basically implying that Zenos erasure is cheating and implying that light novel rimuru would get his abilities disabled it’s your imagination 🌈
So uh where is Zeno in this conversation Zeno is a fucking child that can destroy a multiverse and has many connections to goku such as which grand priest beerus, hit, vados, champa, shit even Caulifla cause she's gonna train under goku eventually so why would goku lose if he has two children that can destroy the fucking multiverse
Kirbt is multi galaxy level+ , in kirby super star, milky way wishes, he threw marks into nova, who is saturn sized made of metal, at a speed wich made mark fly accross the galaxy in 4 seconds and hit nova with an impact force of 750 QUADRILLION supernovea, completely destroying it
@@aster0718 i know,but was nova really that far from Marx? Also,i dont think kirby can Just absorb the galaxy,while goku and beerus clash made a wave that was going in the whole universe ,and that was just one goku punch,also,goku survived beerus punchs,and he is multiversal
@@veraluciasilva1871 1) yes nova was that far 2) kirby destroyed void, the god and creator of the kirby universe, and has effortlessly defeated galactaknight who was so powerfull that the ancients, a reality warping civilazation, feared him
@@aster0718 1.ok,kirby can throw Marx at nova and make It explode,but beerus could destroy the planet with one touch 2.i know who you are talking about,but for what i know of kirby lore,the ancients could defeat void termina,who is a fraction of void,also,dark matter is also a fraction of the void for what i remember,also,is much likely void was not going all out in the kirby fight,i know beerus too was not,but their clashs made the whole universe colapse
The time stop part in the video,it made me think through, If hit can stop time and move,for a solid 2 secs,super saiyan blue goku will eventually dodge the attack,in the episode,he is also shown counter fainting and counter attcks(with the counter feint,goku can land a solid 2 hit attacks using GOD KI,but later in the episode,hit increases his time skip to a solid,3.33 secs,in which super saiyan blue cannot win against that,also,its shown that hit hits goku with 20+punches in 3.33 seconds,so stopping time,as said,surpasses the speed of light logically,and at super saiyan blue,goku LITERALLY DETERMINED A LIGHT SPEED ATTACK,PUNCHED IT,so we can make out that stopping time is faster than speed of light, Now it gets interesting Hit goes max,goku goes kaioken ×10 And,hit does a perfect time stop,but goku blocks the attacks even when the time is stopped,this shows us goku can surpass time itself If kaioken ×20 is used in that same episode,hit would be lost instantly,we already know that goku base is already at a universal level,combining the kaioken with the speed,precision,and stamina of the super saiyan blue,he is just a LITERAL GOD,AT THIS RATE HE IS A MULTIVERSAL lvl,but let's take a look at the universal survival arc,this man jiren,is stronger than his own god of destruction,the base ka ma ha me ha was blocked without he even touching the energy wave,which states that jiren is already at a multiversal level He defeated a multiversal god,by mastering the arts of defence and offense,so I conclude even if kirby inhales,eats,destroys,or does anything,goku would transform in ultra instict(which he already perfected it in the manga)and dodge all of the attacks counter attacking We all forgot the fact that kirby has a lot of strength,but he dosent know martial arts,he cannot perceive attacks as an experienced martiaartist as goku does......... I'm sorry for commenting this big dictionary. I'm also sorry if ther are any mistakes......
Tbh if we brought hit into this in order for hit to stop time he would need to move faster than the speed of sound and light in order to create these “pocket dimensions” seeing you first need to go faster than Mach 5 to do so as well as goku has been able to nearly destroy a whole universe and mind you which is larger than the Kirby universe itself
Yes but you dont understand that kirby has canon infinate power that come from his copy abilities Goku would be dead because not only is kirbys BASE form strong but not.to mention his like 70 abilities plus super abilities like hypernova which he basically becomes a black hole and robot armor mouthful modes and ultra abilities Also he defeated galactic.nova that is the size of A GOD DAMN PLANET but also he blew it up so he has alot of force and with the robot suit he transformed into a giant flying battle ship Goku ded
I have a rebute to that may I remind you goku has survive a lot worse and also has the dexterity to go head to toe with Kirby, you maybe right on that statement but have you considered that goku has destroyed mechs as a kid ten times his size and also the dragon ball universe spans larger than a whole planet, and he was able to AlMost destroy it 5x10^35 faster than the speed of light and sound. Not to mention of we take Into account of capt ginyu and Goku black they both had a hard time unlocking goku’s abilities despite them having his body. Another thing to add is that if Kirby was to even get a hold of goku’s abilities he would need to feel emotional anger which I don’t think Kirby is capable of unless provoked of doing so. To also back this up further goku gains extra power as the fight goes on and even of goku can’t destroy or kill Kirby, goku would still have the upper hand due to his extreme conditioning he goes through each fight. To top this off as well goku has been able survive twice the amount of gravity a black hole has (if not he’s capable of doing so) this was shown when he over came hakai which basically say f u to your spirit, physical body and to your existence in time. And goku was able to over come that simply by a boost in power from just base.
Addition to this ever heard of spirit fission that exists too yk goku can literally sap out Kirby’s energy with each punch he gets on Kirby. Not to mention this time burst or whatever means nothing to goku seeing he’s been able to skip through time all together with ssjblue kaio ken x20. And also of goku went straight to UI and not fuck around with Kirby he would able to use a pseudo hakai to erase Kirby from existence (this doesn’t have to be energy ball equivalent) it can just be a simple touch and that’s it.
kirby has beaten gOdS far more powerful then goku has and goku needs to go into ssjb just to beat frieza in ressuruction F. Goku dosnt even have infinite power. Kirby can also walk outside of space and time giving him immesrible speed and with the warp star is irrelevant layres into immesrible speed. Void termina exsits in every plane of exsistence. Kirby wins easily
Okay. Buckle up, because shit is about to get crazy. In Star Allies, a pause menu description for Void, states that Void created everything. It's said that Kirby is an incarnate of it. This is an indication that Void was exposed to a massive amount of positive energy, birthing Kirby into life. Kirby is also confirmed in Planet Robobot to have infinite power. Also, once an enemy is copied, Kirby becomes a master of the ability the enemy had. (I.e; fire, sword, bomb, archer, yo-yo, etc...) Kirby is a jack of all trades and master of anything.
Also if we’re being real Kirby could beat character which is supposedly stronger than everyone but anime Ronald and to put it bluntly Kirby would win in this fight and character would not be able to handle Kirby’s abilities at all as Kirby has saved people from beings far stronger than chara that have nearly destroyed entire universes with ease and could go past the space time continuum and goku would to chara meaning that goku can’t even prove to be a challenge to Kirby it took a being that was on a level of multiverse and doctor strange would be put to shame bendy is one the few fair matches so Kirby does win if there is some magical way that goku can beat Kirby then you need to tell me right now!
Gokus So Strong That His Fist Colliding With Another Fist Witch Is Just As Strong As His Sends Shockwaves Across The Universe And The Shockwaves Start Destroying The Universe
