Kit Lens vs Pro Lens - is it worth the extra money?

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How well does a standard camera kit lens perform next to a pro camera lens? Is the pro camera lens worth the extra money and
is there a real difference in the quality between the two lenses?
In this video, we investigate these questions by putting both lenses through some tests to see exactly HOW much better the pro series lens is next to a standard kit lens.
We test these two Canon lenses in three areas: Sharpness, Chromatic Aberration, and Colour/ Contrast.
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@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks for watching and I hope it’s helped. Remember, it’s not what you’ve got, it’s what you do with it! For the technical geeks out there, please watch this video before you comment ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cgqBUKiSJbc.html - This video is for the learning photographer, not people who read product manuals inside out! Enjoy 😊

@coryulrich6489 5 лет назад

If you have never done this before why are you teaching the class?

@evshrug 4 года назад

Cory Ulrich • So we can all learn together 😉 It’s a popular question worth exploring, even if exploring is the operative word. I would like him to revisit the tests though, using identical manual settings in each pair of shots. I think his conclusions for the first two pairs of shots were good, but I think an additional variable crept in... if both shots of the flower were exposed the same, I’m sure they would look much more similar (slight contrast and sharpness to the pro lens, but only about as much practical difference as the other tests).

@sharonbarnes7911 4 года назад

You've helped me greatly!!! I am on an extremely tight budget and only do it as a hobby. However, I do take great photos with what I have and I'm constantly told I should sell them. (I'm not THAT good!) I'm just proud of the fact that the area Counties and Cities do repost my photos in their "Vacation" Brochures and on their Facebook pages.

@evshrug 4 года назад

Sharon Barnes • Maybe you wont sell a million or be immediately considered the next Angel Adams or whatever, but go for it! Feels good to make a few bucks on the side, what can it hurt? Bit of advice from someone who tried to make a career of it though... the stress of trying to make it your primary source of income is very high, and it CAN hurt your love of the art. Be prepared if you decide to go that route. But as a side project, I’ve found it much more rewarding and it feels good to think other people are appreciating and enriched by my photos, and I recommend that to others :)

@ademosthenes4911 Год назад

Great video, you just sabe me a ton of money.

@JodyBruchon 6 лет назад

It looks to me as if the flower shot may be over-exposed for the kit lens. They do not appear to be taken at the same exposure; you can see that the L lens image is significantly darker.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+Jody Bruchon I think it is slightly brighter but not by much Jody.

@kitbentley3809 6 лет назад

The exposure will be different as the settings are matched using the f stop not t stop :-D

@MetroidCrYsis 6 лет назад

I wouldn't be surprised -- He was shooting in AV priority so metering could have easily changed depending with some slight differences in light. IMO keeping it in manual would have been more scientific.

@JodyBruchon 6 лет назад

Ah, that would explain it. I didn't notice aperture priority. I think the above comment got it partly right too: f-stop vs. T-stop. Even at identical apertures there is a small amount of light loss difference between every lens. It's hard to make two different lenses look the same!

@JodyBruchon 6 лет назад

@The School of Photography - I just screencapped the video and pulled the flower photos into Gimp and looked at the layer histograms. The histogram for the L lens is shifted significantly to the left. By lowering the exposure and reducing the contrast I am able to very closely match them; there is a color shift in the pro lens that I find unattractive, but I prefer bold colors in general. After playing with the two images I prefer the cheap lens, though that is partly because it's exposed to the right more.

@DirectorJemoo 4 года назад

Lets just face it😂😂😂 the pro lens physically looks way cooler😂😂😂😂

@gdehoyos006 4 года назад

Director Jemoo yup XD

@looneyburgmusic 4 года назад

OMFG! You are not only so right, that is something I run into with non-photographer types all the time. People just expect that "pros" have cameras with these massive lenses like they would see a photographer shooting the Super Bowl using. I've lost track of the number of times I've had to explain to someone that I don't actually need to use my giant 450mm Telephoto to take a simple portrait, because my 50mm Prime will do the job just fine.

@largefolder 4 года назад

If you need only to look cooler, updating your professional wardrobe will go farther than a lens.

@jeepjoseph9036 4 года назад

@@looneyburgmusic when ever I use my d3500 with my 18-55 nikkor afp or 50mm f1.8d no one looks twice but once I put on my metal dg hsm contemporary sigma 70-300 I always get compliments

@llamacannon1714 4 года назад

@Picture This Im gonna be honest, i dont understand a shit that you wrote and im going to remove your rights to comment. How can someone write like a goddamn lizard running over the keyboard. Go back to school and when you learned to write you have a right to argument.

@mueslimuncher1950 5 лет назад

I have both of these lenses. The one thing you missed is distortion, especially at the wide end. The kit lens is truly woeful in this respect, but to compare them fairly, you have to use the pro lens on a full frame body.

@blakegirouxphotography 5 лет назад

My biggest thing about pro lenses are the focusing speeds and accuracy are better when it comes to lower light, and the shallower depth of field. Other than that the kit lenses are actually really well made and you can get amazing photos from them. I used them as my lenses for the first 5 years of my professional career. I only started buying pro lenses when i started shooting weddings and events not just commercial work and portraits. They make it a lot easier to shoot over the kit lens

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing 👍

@thememers_dude 6 лет назад

Watching this at 144p

@setuchauhan6235 6 лет назад

hahahaha

@helmyabdulsamad4700 6 лет назад

what a nice guy

@robertgregory166 6 лет назад

@@helmyabdulsamad4700 da Frick why

@lordcutlerbeckett9357 5 лет назад

yes, here in our country, you pay for the Megabytes so watching at 144p saves us a ton of money

@Ilyaol99 5 лет назад

Lord Cutler Beckett OMG Where are you from?

@TeKnoVKNG23 5 лет назад

It's worth the extra money, if you know what you are doing. I know far too many people who buy a new camera, spend a bunch of money on lens(es) and then 2-3 months later their camera is collecting dust in their closet. I used my 18-55 for about 6 months until I felt I had gotten everything out of it that I could, and then I started upgrading to other lenses, but I did buy used to save money. I think I wound up getting 3 lenses(35mm, 70-300mm, 17-70mm 2.8 to replace kit) to add more versatility to my gear for under $500, when they would have cost me well over $1000 new. So if you are just someone that goes out once or twice a month to take photos and don't use your camera much, the answer is no, you don't need better lenses because you're probably never going to see any benefit from them. If you are an enthusiast/amateur or professional, then yes, you are going to want to upgrade to better glass once you've mastered your kit lens.

@cheyennemcgaugh 6 лет назад

I love your calmness and you don’t talk too fast! Thank you!

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks Chey, glad you liked it :)

@aevitas_ 5 лет назад

Thanks for these videos Mark, I really enjoy your way of explaining and teaching, it helps me a lot!

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks, glad you enjoy the videos 🙂

@Mr_Spock512 5 лет назад

I would suggest getting a good prime lens before spending big money on pro glass. Prime lens are usually inexpensive and they provide a much better picture quality than a kit lens, they're also great for learning about composition. JMO

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing 👍

@bryannguyen1980 4 года назад

exactly what i did. bought the body itself, then a 50mm prime to practice everywhere, anytime i can. that way i can improve my skill before jumping in any zoom and pro lenses

@henred5 4 года назад

Same, and I really like using my prime lens, it seems to suit what I'm photographing at the moment, still life, portrait's, found objects and interesting scenes.

@dukenukem5768 4 года назад

Said: " _Prime lens are usually inexpensive_ ". I don't think you have looked at prices lately.

@hlessiavedon 4 года назад

@@dukenukem5768 they are talking te 85mm and below "standard" primes", not the $10000plud hotn

@kidthorazine 5 лет назад

I've a;ways felt that lens speed was the biggest advantage when buying higher end lenses, since faster lenses tend to be higher end. A lot of kit lenses have the lowest f-stop at 3.5 which is really limiting when you want a shallow depth of field. The other stuff is just a nice bonus.

@Walkercolt1 4 года назад

As usual, you've watched RU-vid videos instead of actually taking photographs or bothering to study optical laws. Depth of focus, ( NOT "depth of field") isn't determined only by f-stop. I can, and have taken portraits at f8.3 with a 100mm or equivalent focal length lens and blurred the background completely. You are conveniently ignoring camera to subject distance, the focal length of the lens, the reproduction ratio (degree of enlargement) and the optical properties of the lens being used. When you learn what a kit lens can and cannot do, THEN you MIGHT be justified in buying an expensive lens. I'm sorry, but I have shot more photographs than were sold with a fixed normal focal length lens on a Rollei twin lens camera than you will probably ever take in your lifetime. Let's see, most movies are shot with a double normal focal length lens at f(T) 11 and the background is blurred. The Director of Photography knows his lens and what it will do.

@saulmirandaaliaga 5 лет назад

This was very helpful. Thank you for the video, mate!

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍😊

@paulcarter9883 4 года назад

Just watched this with great interest. I was in NewYork in February & only took my Canon EOS500 D with the kit 18 - 55 & got some fantastic results.

@bernadinecabanas331 5 лет назад

Thanks. That's really a great help. Fantastic video, you explain very clearly.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@BlubberNuggy 5 лет назад

I like your review, but I wanted to know the differences in more ways than just for pictures. Thank you for your insight anyway. It was helpful.

@luisfernandorodrigues609 5 лет назад

Excellent Video! This is a true service when it comes to informing people about true cost/benefit issues. Tks!

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome, glad you liked it 👍

@KarlRock 5 лет назад

Bang on! Thanks bro

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@donsilva4441 5 лет назад

It's really about what you are shooting. If you have a professional assignment, like shooting dogs at a show or sports, you're going to have to have gear that can handle that demand to get good shots. Just taking stills is not a total measure.

@dil6969 2 года назад

Honestly, Canon really upped the quality of their cheap lenses when the STM versions came out. My new 50mm 1.8 STM is significantly sharper than the old 50mm at all apertures, especially wide open. The focusing is really accurate and way quieter. If you want to have a cheap setup, a new 50mm 1.8 and a cheap used STM kit lens makes a good budget kit. The 24mm F2.8 STM is also excellent and ridiculously sharp.

@adamfowler4500 2 года назад

I bought a used 200d eos and the video quality with the kit lenses really sucks, would it improve if I buy STM lenses?

@dil6969 2 года назад

@@adamfowler4500 Very likely yes . I have the old style 50mm 1.8 and the 18-55mm kit lens. Compared to their newer STM counterparts, it's a significant difference, especially when you start cropping into your photos. On my EOS 90D, the old lenses frankly don't produce a sharp image unless you close the aperture down. The autofocus performs really well on my 90D although I'm not sure how it would be on the 200d.

@OverlyCuriousEngineer Год назад

By new 50 mm are you referring to the RF mount 50 mm?

@donutdisturb69 Год назад

The 24mm f2.8 STM is surprisingly good given that it's absolutely tiny

@EzyoMusic Год назад

That's what I chose to go with my cheap, used but like-new 70D. It's so much fun, but I do have to back away more than I'm used to compared to when using a smartphone.

@ShitKid1337 6 лет назад

Cool video, liked your accuracy! The o ly thing setting me off was your talking speed :D

@mpletsas_ 4 года назад

kit lens+editing program = pro lens+++

@jasondaga1990 4 года назад

Θανάσης Μπλέτσας exactly my thought.. lightroom saves our money then? lol

@mpletsas_ 4 года назад

@ICT if this is your sceptical, it is sure your photos will be like my first mls tablet, ...too bad...

@mpletsas_ 4 года назад

@ICT btw i dont think 70-200 2.8 sigma is bad lens...but you know better...😂😂😂😂😂

@necrodh 4 года назад

No, there is a lot of new prime cheap lens with ultra sharpness and 3D pop.

@ryanskenard 4 года назад

ICT nah. Pretty much every professional photographer edits photos nowadays.

@markharris5771 6 лет назад

I still have a 28-80 kit lens that was sold with the EOS5, it has more plastic than the nifty fifty. A brilliant video and I totally agree about upgrading glass before your body, but also look at third party lenses such as Sigma and Tamron.

@august6014 6 лет назад

Thank you for the video! You should make the same video in sunlight and during night time. It would be cool to see the difference there.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+Tygrysku __ thanks for the comments 😊

@saxophonicmusician 5 лет назад

Thanks for the comparison. Bought a SL2 a week ago with the kit lense works for the time being but had to buy the canon 10-18 mm f/4.5 for wide angle shots.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome Alain, glad it helped :)

@blackmamba3427 2 года назад

Amazing video and explanation 👏 Love your videos!

@theschoolofphotography 2 года назад

Thanks

@jumpingmind8077 5 лет назад

yes it helped me alot.. thaaannnnkkkkk youuuu soooo much...

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome, glad it helped you out 👍

@timelord2222 4 года назад

This is exactly why I haven't opted for fast expensive zooms, but instead went for - wait for it - even MORE kit lenses! Large apertures are nice, but the affordable ultrawide and telezoom that now accompany my kit lens gave me much more things to shoot. Also, don't forget that expensive gear is useless if editing skills are weak - photography never stops at the shutter button!

@theschoolofphotography 4 года назад

Thanks for the comments

@thomas_shelby106 6 лет назад

This is very informative. ♥

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks Kirby :)

@NEILANIL1 4 года назад

thank you for this unbiased comparison and as a person who is the starting out I will defer to being a budget orientated and conscious hobbyist at this time. Can't have this hobby financially burdened me.

@theschoolofphotography 4 года назад

You're welcome, glad to help. You might also like this video as well ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vZog77AYURY.html 👍

@hansdegebruiker1968 4 года назад

Yes it is. For sure. Years ago I bought a 50D. Went out and learned to shoot. Then one day I walked in to a shop for a filter. There was a offer from 600 euro for a new 24-105. I bought it and from that day my shots were much better in color, aperture and sharpness. Because of the cons from this lens for a crop factor cam I learned how to become even better.

@DidiMuseri 6 лет назад

As a 600d user who has gone through the pain of shooting in low light with 18-55mm kit lens , Id say its worth spending extra cash on a Sharper lens. I'm upgrading to a new camera all together , Great video BTW

@MrPir84free 5 лет назад

Your point sort of emphasizes something that I've noticed and is something that newb's should be aware of. Low light performance is not just the lens, but also impacted by the body chosen. Most people shooting inside most venues, including the home, are shooting in rather poor lighting. Buying a better lens is one thing, buying a body that performs poorly in low light is just as much of a problem. Adding flash helps if it can be done; an external flash that can bounce is perhaps the next step after upgrading glass. But when purchasing your first camera, newb's would be better off buying a better body than buying the cheapest body... All of the components work together; so to dismiss the body as part of the problem is sort of foolish. Advice to newbs: Buy as much camera as you can initially afford; then buy better glass, and an external flash prior to the next body..

@capitaljbcomics3738 6 лет назад

great video thank you for doing this

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

You're welcome, glad you liked it 👍

@einzeller85 5 лет назад

it would be really cool to have a proper chromatic abberation test cause i know i get some mostly purple fringing on the kit lense which is imo flawlessly removed by lightrooms lens correction options anyway though. also what if you did your best to make the pictures look alike in post? would be interesting to see if you could set up an "L lens preset" to safe the 800 bucks entirely xD

@rban123 5 лет назад

einzeller85 this is why digital photography exists folks!!

@pbee5836 2 года назад

So glad I came across this video comparison. Whilst downtown today I saw the 24 - 105 lens for sale used in an electronics shop but wanted to do my research first. As on the School of Photography site, you explain things very clearly and in a way that's easy to understand. Anyway, whilst researching the lens online, I realised that the price I have seen it for is about a third of what I would be charged in the pro camera shops in the city - hadn't realised I was potentially saving so much. At the moment I'm still using the kit lenses with my 90D but this has convinced me that it will be worth the outlay. Thanks Marc!

@j.stormtracker4407 5 лет назад

Enjoyed your video a lot. I have a Canon DSLR camera use some of the kit lens [smaller zoomed ones] & did a modest lens upgrade with the longer zoom lens over the past year or 2. The Pro lens you used looked a bit darker on the 2nd and third photo compared to the Kit lens. I usually like my photos with a good deal of contrast, but I can adjust my bridge camera [Panasonic Lumix] and DSLR camera for increased contrast for a slightly darker photo....especially nature and scenic photos. Again, great video you have.....very informative.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome, glad you liked it 👍

@robertmontgomery6811 4 года назад

Thanks for this.I have spent countless hours looking at reviews always lusting after the latest and best gear.This has taught me to learn how to use what I have properly before considering if I really need any more equipment.I replaced a Nikon 18-105 with a 16-80 can I see any improvement not really. Even worse neither can my treasurer ie my wife

@balintk.9373 4 года назад

I am pretty sure there is a marginal difference in corner sharpness between the lenses, obviously the 16-80 is sharper. Also I am sure the color contrast is better, not to talk about it is a faster and wider lens so overall it is impossible not to see any difference.

@ericdanthon2 4 года назад

Thank you I have learned so much about true photography from this video as well as your others. I have a canon 15-45mm lens for my M6 and I consider it to be quite sharp but I have never compared it to anything.

@apesheet_crzy1430 5 лет назад

simple and informative ...thanks.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@Hipnosis65 5 лет назад

Thank you.... new photographer. Subscribed.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Cheers John, glad to have you on board 👍

@chickey333 4 года назад

Being the poor retired American bloke that I am I do get the lighter less colorful results with my Canon 18-55mm kit lens. However, with very little more time and effort required I can get beautiful end results of color with fairly cheap but effective enhancing software. Every photo I take goes through the enhancing software screening process anyway so the kit lens works perfect in my world. I'm sure I'm preaching to an already well versed choir. Thank You for the "reassuring" video you presented here.

@FilmmakerArionSmith 3 года назад

I would like to see some of you kit lens pics. I got a Canon 90d with a kit lens, but I just got a 50mm prime. This will be my first lens upgrade.

@paulkillick3419 5 лет назад

Most of my Nikon lens's are F2.8 for the lower light capability for indoor sprorts

@vincy3732 5 лет назад

Thank you for the suggestion.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@hemiv8949 5 лет назад

Excellent tutorial. Thank you

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks, glad you liked it 👍

@looneyburgmusic 5 лет назад

If you had done this test ten or twenty years ago the results most likely would have been far different, but today, as you showed, not so much. The differences between a "pro" lens and a "kit" lens have reached a point where any issues with the kit lens are minor, and can be easily handled in post-processing.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for the comments 👍

@serioussam909 4 года назад

Yeah, unless you need wide aperture or extreme telephoto - consumer level lenses are more than enough.

@looneyburgmusic 4 года назад

@@serioussam909 Another big part of this question is people just need to slow down some, and take the time to learn their gear, and learn how to shoot the best photo with the lens they have on the camera. If I'm doing a professional "studio" portrait then I'm going with my best prime lens, with the camera most likely fixed on a tripod at a pre-measured distance from the subject. But for "casual", wandering around town photography, the kit lens that came with my Nikon, (18-55mm), is sometimes more than good enough for my needs.

@serioussam909 4 года назад

@@looneyburgmusic A prime lens like the "nifty fifty" can take better pictures than a kit lens and is also very cheap. This is why it might be a good idea to pick up a cheap 24mm or 50mm prime even if you're not a professional.

@carolineandtigger 6 лет назад

Very nice. Thank you for sharing.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+caroline and tigger you're welcome 😊

@Lastshallb1189 3 года назад

Dude thank you! This helped me a lot.

@theschoolofphotography 3 года назад

Glad it helped!

@hufitnessnutrition7987 5 лет назад

Chromatic aberration has been driving me mad and now i know why! Thanks a lot, helped me a bunch

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@marksview1787 6 лет назад

hey what tripod are you using ? I like the way its setup with arms to move it around .

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+Marks View1 hi, it's the manfrotto 190 with a pan and tilt head. Hope that helps :)

@marksview1787 6 лет назад

yup thanks i looked on 1 of your other GREAT vids and saw you describe it , the web sites said its no longer available :-( but o well hopefully i fine 1 simular . Thanks keep up the GREAT Vids Very helpful !

@FlyB4UDie 2 года назад

Cancellation of my order for a new lens is in progress 😂

@bdeshapriya 4 года назад

Wow. Its very useful review.Thank you so much

@theschoolofphotography 4 года назад

Thank you, glad to help 👍

@felipejans74 3 года назад

I thought Michael Cane was narrating when he got into the studio

@sepanta5fard15 4 года назад

tanks mate . was so usefull

@theschoolofphotography 4 года назад

👍

@eventsandphotoseventsandph7675 4 года назад

It has been very useful. Thanks

@theschoolofphotography 4 года назад

👍

@gordonclifton2694 6 лет назад

I've just had to make this decision using used the same kit lens on my 80d for a year. Last week I bought the EF-S 17-55 f2.8 having read some seriously complimentary reviews. At the weekend I took pics at my local flying club and at a local wildlife event in a nearby country park, including my grandson. The verdict from my non-photographer daughter was that the results were a substantial improvement in clarity. So there's the thing - the results really impressed my intended audience. My thoughts? I am truly amazed and wished I had made the change months ago! However, having made the move from my EOS 300D there was a lot of camera learning to do first!

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

That's great Gordon, good luck with the photography 😊👍

@kailaoliveros9299 5 лет назад

Was the 18-55 good with the 80D? Im having a crisis about it because my dad will buy me my first camera and i really want the 80D. And i think i have no choice but to get it with the 18-55 kit lens because the other kit lens "18-135"? (Not sure, can't remember) cost too much money. And if I dont choose the 18-55 i dont thibk he'll want to buy it... ugghhhhhhhhh I can't decide!

@linkedinfred 3 года назад

Really useful. I have that kit lens with my Canon 90D. The sharpness is a game changer for me. I feel if I shoot in raw and pull it into Lightroom I will get the colours right.

@jackcroft315 Год назад

switch to prime kit lenses no need for the pro prime lenses you'll see a difference and get a 70-300 zoom with image stabilization you'll see a huge difference in quality. best to toss that 18-55 in the dumpster where it belongs

@catalincatalin587 6 лет назад

You are a very likeable person. Thanks for the video.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks glad you liked our stuff 👍

@erweber 5 лет назад

Nice video! Can you make a comparison between Nikon lenses 18-105 3.5 - 5.5 VR vs 18-200 3.5 - 5.5 VR? Thank you!!!

@dovidell 4 года назад

there's an in-betweeny lens available to Nikon folk , namely the 18-140 ( which I own ), which is you forgive the pun , is a prime performer

@mikedegrazia 2 года назад

Thank you for an honest unbiased review. Your the man...

@theschoolofphotography 2 года назад

Thanks 👍

@sl2608 6 лет назад

Great video, thank you! I did the same tests with my 18-55 STM on my Canon SL1 and 6D. I compared the 18-55 STM to the 24-105 on both the SL1 and the 6D. Preferred the 18-55 on the SL1! Sharp, brilliant colors and beautiful focus. I also ended up selling my 6D and getting the 80D. 80D is a fantastic camera, enjoying it more than I ever did the 6D. And I use it for professional as well as personal work. Thanks again!

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@kailaoliveros9299 5 лет назад

@ahsanalishaikh2004 5 лет назад

@@kailaoliveros9299 Did you get your 80D with 18-55? If yes, is it good?

@kailaoliveros9299 5 лет назад

@@ahsanalishaikh2004 yeah I got the 18-55. its not that bad. It's really great because it can be an all around lens. 18mm for landscape and 55mm for portraits

@batworker 4 года назад

I’ve got a 6d with L series glass and a 450d with the kit lens. I can tell overall the 6d combo is ‘better’, but if we travel anywhere I take the 450 as it’s smaller and lighter, I never regret this, the images are absolutely good enough.

@garyclayton4652 6 лет назад

Did the light change at all during the lens change on the flower shot.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+Gary Clayton not that I noticed Gary.

@garyclayton4652 6 лет назад

The School of Photography ok it was just a thought. Great video write excellent subject

@Fransamsterdam 6 лет назад

Not very convincing. In my opinion the two 'colour test' pictures show a different exposure and a different focal length. I do not deny that the pro lens is better, but the difference may be even less than you suggest.

@AqilTheCarGuyandmore7513 6 лет назад

@fransamterdam I did a test shot like this. Yes the contrast depth is different. Not because of the exposure

@shawnwells5719 6 лет назад

The EV for the kit lens looks completely different than that for the pro model in the color test. Shouldn't be that much difference in contrast/color, considering the result of the CA test shots.

@shadowrider3853 6 лет назад

Very well explained

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks for the comments and glad it helped 👍

@rhiwderinraytube 5 лет назад

Low light performance? Sharpness at corners/edges? Vignetting? Lens flare? You get what you pay for....

@giangtrungnguyen 4 года назад

You're right! Anyone can play soccer, but pro player is just a little bit of better :-). However, our clients pay for that "better", they feel happy to pay for a photographer uses camera with "red ring" lens!

@Walkercolt1 4 года назад

There is FAR more to it than that! What is the distance from the image plane to the subject? What will be the enlargement percentage? What f-stop is being used? What are the lighting conditions? How much time are you willing to spend in post production (Lightroom/Capture One)? Are you shooting in JPEG or RAW? What ISO equivalent are you using? What about the noise figure for your camera sensor? Under the right set of conditions, it's not hard to produce a better straight from the camera image with a kit lens than a $3500 lens, BUT you have to know the limitations of BOTH lenses, and the expensive lens has limitations too. Size, weight and bulk are big factors. If you don't have your good camera with your big lens because it's too bulky and heavy, what good is it? I'm sorry, I've been a working professional photographer for over 50 years and these so-called "comparisons" are meaningless. Ansel Adams made a prize winning photograph with a $2.50 120 roll film Diana fixed focus, fixed exposure, single element lens camera. I have seen it in person. It is VERY, VERY hard to tell the difference in it and his Hasselblad images.

@OverdrivePacing 4 года назад

@@Walkercolt1 I absolutely agree with you.At the most basic level ,a good lens (or camera) is the one you have with you when you need it !

@juanpedro814 4 года назад

@@giangtrungnguyen Having expensive gear don't make you a Pro photographer mate. You are wrong.

@tridinh1011 3 года назад

@@juanpedro814 no, no one knows about that outside the photography world. The clients do not know nor care, they want big cameras and big lenses, they want to hire someone who look pro, not someone who runs around with a kit lens

@Alex-du4eq 6 лет назад

Excellent video!

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks :)

@DartzIRL 4 года назад

I've an old 1991-vintage 28-80 USM MK1, and a 2013 15-55 EF-S STM. What it took for me to tell the difference between them was reading the number plate of a car a hundred metres away at the 50mm setting. The old 28-80 was a smidge sharper - until the shutter speed dropped off. TBH the biggest difference I ever saw was with an older 24-35mm nFD L, and a 28mm F2.8 FD on my Canon F-1. The L had noticeably better colours on Ektachrome E100 - it looked 'modern' and digital, compared to the shots with the 28. I broke the L by dropping it and knocking it out of focus. It died being put to work - which I suppose is an honourable end for some vintage gear designed to 'work'.

@GarryBurgess 5 лет назад

That L series lens [newer version] was the one that came with my Canon 6B body. But it only an f4 lens, so I ended up buying other lenses to cover that range but 1 stop faster.

@petergibson2318 5 лет назад

I often compare my kit efs 18-55mm lens which came with my old Canon EOS 450D to my 100-300mm telephoto. I have only 2 lenses.The expensive telephoto was designed for a full frame camera and is better.But only just. Both lenses are superb.Neither shows noticeable spherical or chromatic aberration or pin-cushion or astigmatic aberration. They are both pin-sharp as well.I am happy.What more do I want?

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing Peter 👍

@villageblunder4787 5 лет назад

I imagine the CA was corrected in camera. But yeah, the 18-55 is not a bad lens provided you have enough light and aren't looking for shallow DofF.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing 👍

@Danielwami 2 года назад

Thanx God i watched this Vid. Am doin jus fine with my Kit lens

@pumkinfamely4963 4 года назад

Great idea to compare kit vs Pro!

@HatimShabbirHussain 6 лет назад

Excellent video 👍🏼

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks 👍

@fa1nt329 4 года назад

Great job, thx

@theschoolofphotography 4 года назад

No problem 👍

@isaac2874 6 лет назад

A good analysis ! Thanks for the eye opener. BTW, with regard to chromatic aberrations, if I'm not wrong,, it's visible in the edges, so, why not crop the photo ?

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks Isaac, CA is actually visable across the whole picture, not just the edges. Cheers 👍

@isaac2874 6 лет назад

The School of Photography Thank you for the clarification Sir. Regards from India. Namaste

@peopleschoice9555 5 лет назад

Sir..your words sounds like they went to Harvard and got their phd. Such crisp clarity. Second best part about this video. Thank you so much!!

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@dukenukem5768 4 года назад

LoL! I don't know where you come from but it is a London accent, I'd say probably North-East London or South Essex. It's half a world away from a Harvard accent! Nothing wrong with that, I'm from South London myself, and he is indeed a good clear speaker.

@gregkerr1077 4 года назад

The gearheads may wish to disagree, but the point is quite clear. That extra 5% costs an awful lot of money, but you can still get amazing photos with cheaper equipment. Its about the photographer, not the equipment.

@stevrgrs 4 года назад

It wasn’t really a fair test anyway. It was more of a versatility test (which the pro lens would be a clear winner...pun intended) Take a similar macro focal length lens rather than compared a high end tele to a kit lens. In some situations the cheaper macro lens COULD beat a much more expensive tele lens for the same purpose :P

@darkav3513 6 лет назад

Hi, I have a question. Please, could you tell us if the focus band (17-40) has an infinite rotation? I mean the standard lens focus band stop at on point and they don't rotate any further.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+Dark AV3 hi, I haven't got that lens so wouldn't know. Hopefully someone else can answer for you. Thanks

@darkav3513 6 лет назад

The School of Photography thank you very much for getting back to me. I have just checked with someone else and they said 17-40 has infinite rotation.

@firozdharamshifirzai3262 6 лет назад

I have some questions on wide angle

@nandes543 6 лет назад

please review canon 15-85mm is usm lens

@nobody_am_i 3 года назад

Excellent teaching

@theschoolofphotography 3 года назад

Glad you think so!

@lorenknowles1521 6 лет назад

I shoot stills and video as part of my job. One of the challenges is carrying and using heavy equipment so I often carry smaller Rebel cameras that normally are just for backup. The Rebel and kit lens is substantially lighter than my pro camera lenses. I am more likely to carry and shoot a lighter rig.

@ounkhamphomvihane9734 5 лет назад

thanks for the review you did the great job, i have decided to go with pro lens in order to produce the best quality of image

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

👍

@coolbionicle 4 года назад

I'm miles away from being an expert in this, but it looks like the kit lens just lets in more uv than the pro lens. Which leads me to believe that the pro lens has better coating. Normally you would fix this on the kit lens by just placing a uv filter but then you would be adding an optical element therefore reducing the overall sharpness of the image, so there is a trade-off for a lense that otherwise is practically on par with the pro lens. Correct me if I'm wrong in this. In the chromatic aberration test it is in my understanding that a good comparison would be done stretching the zoom to the max on each of the lenses so that the aberration is apparent.

@rinzadalingal42 5 лет назад

hi bro can you say which lens good for canon 1500d

@johnluujl 6 лет назад

what if I substituted the kit lens with medium priced primes with ca. f/1,8 over the kit lens with f/4?

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+John Luu that would work.

@COREpwns 5 лет назад

Very nice informative video, the results also surprised me (: I would just kind of add on to what you said about upgrading the kit lens. That when someone has started out and later on are getting ready to upgrade from their kit lens, to instead add "new" lenses to their collection that can serve different functions, so say adding a lens with a longer focal length, a macro lens or something with a wider maximum apperture for low-light shooting or playing with bokeh and so on.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing 👍

@nattysawer 6 лет назад

How about the lens hood that would block some of the light from the pro lens giving a deeper darker photo?! Seems plausible.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+NattySawer hi, yes it would but I wanted the test to be the same and didn't have a lens hood for the kit lens

@Bishnu_Deb 5 лет назад

I'm using 18/55 kit lens on my 80D and I am quite happy with the results I get every time.

@looneyburgmusic 5 лет назад

Me too, 18/55 on a D5600, and with a bit of minor processing for color correction in RAW mode I'm totally happy with the results I've been getting.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing 👍

@phyvasftw2593 5 лет назад

Is there version for SL2/200D (i commented this before watching the video)

@ClayvisDagi 6 лет назад

Thanks for the informations.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

No probs :)

@tubzvermeulen 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

You're welcome 👍

@listonmallard4701 5 лет назад

I have a canon 80D. I am considering upgrading my efs 55-250 is stm lens with the ef 70-200 f4L is 2 usm and wondering if that is going to be worth the nearly 5x price point.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Hi Liston, all I can say is the 70-200 is a great lens. Hope that helps 👍

@TheDStraits 5 лет назад

I've upgraded my EF-S 55-250 IS (not STM) to a Tamron 70-300 F4-5.6 VC SP, and it's significantly better. Much faster and better autofocus and the image stabilisation is great. I haven't got any experience with the 70-200 L lens, so I don't know how big the difference is, but if you're on a budget or you want to spent your money elsewhere it might be worth checking this one out too.

@jekyll7115 5 лет назад

@@TheDStraits I have the STM version and the autofocus is whisper quiet and very fast. Came with my 77D. The camera and lens are both new to me but so far I am VERY impressed with the lens! I almost bought a kit with the non STM version of the lens but saw that it had negative reviews due to the bad autofocus.

@allanjder 5 лет назад

I have a kit 16-50 F3.5-5.6 ($400) and pro 16-55 F2.8 ($1000). They both are good performers, the build is better on the pro lens with more metal and much much heavier. I do a lot of landscapes on the trail so weight is important for each item, my pack for a week can be 65 lbs. The kit lens weighs 8-1/2 oz (242g) and the pro lens is a whooping 1 lb 10-1/4 oz (746g), that is 3 times heavier. So on those tougher longer backpacks, I take the kit lens. Side note, the kit lens has a plastic bayonet mount that broke when it was mounted on the camera when I drop the camera case. So which one I take depends on what I am doing.

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for the comments and glad you like the video 👍

@saifulrokhim9538 6 лет назад

halo sir, i have camera canon80d and i don,t now what the best lens for my camera, please give me suggestions what the best lens for my camera thanks...

@manuelarslanyan1883 5 лет назад

I was wondering, if a post editing with a software could compensate the "lack" of a Kit-Lense...

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Hi Manuel, yes post processing will enhance any photo so it would help in this situation. Hope that helps 👍

@jpfitness_ 5 лет назад

Terrific video!!! I use my kit lens but always wanted a L series lens

@theschoolofphotography 5 лет назад

Thanks for the comments and glad you liked it 👍

@IgnacioDure 5 лет назад

Polt Fitness sorry dude this lens is crap f4? Dude right now we can buy f2 lenses

@dylanshackelton845 6 лет назад

I have the newer version of that kit lens. It's honestly my go to for landscape photography. I've never bothered even trying more expensive lenses for landscape because I like the shots I'm getting with this one. And like the old saying, "if it's not broke, don't fix it. All I have are cheep lenses. Besides that 18-55mm, I have a 75-300mm f/4-5.6 that also came with my camera. I'm not thrilled with that one, but as long as I use a tripod or a really fast shutter I can get really good shots. And I have a Canon 50mm f/1.8. There are other more expensive 50mm lenses, but for $125 you get a lot of bang for your buck. If you're going out not and sure what you're gonna be shooting, and you only want to bring one lens, you really can't go wrong with the a 50mm.

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks for sharing this with us 👍

@smith4813 6 лет назад

So I was thinking of getting a full frame camera one of these days, trying to save up for it. I have a Canon T3i and I thought if I buy the better lens for it then the lens that I buy will not fit a full frame. Need help to figure this out, I'm learning.....

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

+Veronica Smith hi, with canon lenses, the EF lenses fit on full frame cameras so just make sure you buy a EF lens. This will also fit onto crop sensor lenses. Hope that helps 👍

@smith4813 6 лет назад

Yes ty so much

@beautyfulldrey 2 года назад

Can you use any lens for a canon EOS 90d

@diamondyellow8986 6 лет назад

thanks a lot for this video!!! i "fell in love" again with my kit lens ... i have a question: i wanna start newborn photography... do i need to buy pro lens? or for the beginning i can use my kit lens)

@theschoolofphotography 6 лет назад

Thanks Diamond. Go for the 50mm f1.4 or f1.8 prime lens.

@diamondyellow8986 6 лет назад

thank you!!!))

@johnroberts6695 5 лет назад

Hmmm...the one of the dandelion was better exposed with the L-lens, but in post production, could you get the cheap lens to give you substantially better results? In short, using Photoshop Elements, what could you do with both images? Could you make them more similar by reducing the kit len's exposure or in post production using Elements? Is there somewhere where we can download the photos and experiment with them? I'd also like to see both lens cranked up to the same zoom focal length. That's where many kit lenses crap out, big time. On the wide angle settings, we also have to compare pincushion and barrel distortion. Your lens comparison was interesting, but certainly not comprehensive.

@Slag362 5 лет назад

You should check out what DXO Mark have tested these two at on the 750D, also the 750D has a very capable sensor for it's price. It would have been a better comparison by going from APS-C to FF at the same adjusted focal length.