Kizazi Moto Generation Fire! Afrofuturism By Disney That Misses More Then It Hit's. Reaction Review 

old european history can be summed to " kill that funny speaking barbarian" , then we advanced and realised theres funny speaking people further away that also need killing, never forgeting the dear old neighbours.

Yeah it's basically Europe in that sense. Everyone looks the same to outsiders but HOOBOY they are fine warcriming each other hard. The trade happened for a reason.

@@reggie6230 That's basically humanity. THOSE PEOPLE ON THE VILLAGE OVER THE HILL HAVE A FUNNY ACCENT LET'S BASH THEIR SKULLS

What I think is funny, and a bit sad, is that from a position of global dominance when white people took over, before our eventual fall (everyone does fall from this position eventually) we created and promoted the entire philosophy of tolerance and acceptance and created the entire situation for this to happen. Ironically somehow the guys who decided to try and end racism, have become the stock villains and things like this, without being given any credit for the entire idea. Almost every racial portrayal comes down to "whites think they are superior and treat others badly" yet arguably should be treated as the most accepting people on the planet for being the only ones to open these kind of doors by saying they shouldn't be in charge based on genetics when they were in a position to try and force that rather than the opposite. In the meantime there are political efforts to turn everyone against white people as the bad guys, as opposed to them being the peacemakers, while we ignore all the horrible racism, slavery, and genocide going on by other groups when whites are not involved. Different African groups do not consider themselves part of some "black unity" like we call them all "black" here. Hispanics and Blacks have just as much history as whites and blacks. Asians have a massive history of Xenophobia which you can even see in places like Japan and especially China today,, and that includes against other people we whites would just term generally "Asian". I mean look at what Japan did in China during WW II, and there is a lot of bad blood over it today, yet we are supposed to just pretend that wasn't a think because whites are "da evil". I've long felt right now if we want this whole diversity and equality thing to work we need to put as much, or more, attention on non-white vs. non-white racism. Especially seeing as globally speaking whites are the actual numerical minority compared to blacks, asians (especially asians), and other groups. This is where a lot of the real problems actually lie, and these conflicts are of course reflected in melting pots like the US as people bring those ideas here and we ignore them just because for a few decades some guys wore white sheets on their heads and attacked black people due to being upset their side lost a war on this subject. Casual racism against whites is also something that does need to be addressed, though I do understand why due to political intertia that can't happen instantly. I for example would argue Black History Month should have at least two days of every week dedicated to "be thankful for white people" because without us, they would not be in a position to have this month, their freedom being given, not taken or earned, and nothing else they did here would have happened without that gift. It would spin this in a more positive direction than just a month about screaming about past oppression in a way that always missed the point that the people doing it stopped doing it because they decided on their own it was wrong.

@@jwb_666 Or maybe it's more complex than that and you are simply ignorant. You're only speaking for yourself, too. I'd believe it for africa though.

Exactly, can you imagine the strength of the traditional values in a Nigerian made product? It may be late but this is what they should have done from the start.

Disney discovering they made an error seeking progressive themes in a conservative continent 🤡

That's the best take away. Whether it's good or bad, at least it's ITS OWN THING, and not yet another wannabe activist writer hijacking an existing property and sundering its foundations to build their own crap atop the corpse.

​@TheManWhoStoleTheShadows this is what should have happened. Make more diverse art instead of color changed art. I like a completely different cultural outlooks such as the difference between Japanese web novels vs Chinese web novels. Most diversity shown is a piss poor color swap of the originals. If I want to see a female version of James bond then you better take it from the angle of the femme Fatale.

Not all of Africa is bigoted and regressive as you reich wingers are. We champion diversity and many of us support gay communities.

This is Afroanime, so you get ghetto kung fu masters like Lui Ting

Zimbabwe? You mean Rhodesia, right?

Rhodesian Fire Force. And Selous Scouts For the win.

Botswana currently isn't too bad. Most of the rest aren't that great.

I hear that Kenya isn't bad.

Disney is going down, it hit the Igerberg. No more Rat!

Nukes aren't even real moshe.

Not just once, but twice.

@@LordNithilus If you didn't know, there was supposed to be a third. So if Disney came down like 2 atom bombs, chances are they'd irradiate themselves twice mucking around with the last of the trio. Sounds like something Disney would do.

Lol. That lesser god sounds like Thor after a party.

@@zeorhymer6 That drunk god is now the god of redemption. He was an irresponsible fool prior to creating humanity. Seeing humanity suffer due to his recklessness has made him sober up and get his life together. He is wiser and far more sympathetic to the plight of humanity. No matter what crimes you've committed, Obtala won't turn you away if you genuinely seek to redeem yourself. Because no matter how badly you've screwed up, he's screwed up worse.

Even their deities can’t keep off the liquor, fitting.

​​@@Bob-lr2xp think that made me tear up a bit.

@@tankg9263 can't you just let the hate go for a little bit and experience another people's perspective and culture. Not everything has to be a chance at hate

That sounds like an awesome setting though, imagine clerics are just wizards trying really really hard to earn back favor of their god. And just getting noticed would be the equivalent of casting a 10th level spell form D&D.

hmm i am interested

@@derpnip Alas, I didn't go quite the whole hog as I wanted all regions of my world to follow similar mechanical rules (including the more traditional D&D fantasy continent to the north). So I simply had Shamans and Mediums be common on the southern continent while Clerics and Priests were rare. But what you suggest does indeed sound awesome!

@@Taranchule You could have a kind of background conflict between your Shamans/Mediums and the Clerics/Priests. A whole the Clerics/Priests believe that we should work to regain the favor of the gods and not listen to the ancestors who disappointed them in the first place, while the Shamans/Mediums push that the favor of the gods cannot be trusted but the wisdom of the ancestors got them this far.

@@TankHunter678 Hmmm. Maybe not a continent-wide conflict, but as the central "plot" of a particular kingdom... ooooh, you've got the ol' neurons firing now! Thank you!

Sacrebleu!

They are so dependent on white guilt to survive it's hilarious

And South American Soccer teams full of Europeans

Do your research. It is 2023

@@slimehermit You mean it needs more black people?

I just want to follow up by saying that the studio clearly has talent and I wouldn't mind seeing them given the ability to make some of the shorts you see before certain movies. (i will admit tho i hope it has more playful subject matter, something like Geri's Game)

Just do it when there aren't any blackouts or load shedding......

​@strategicviewpoint6672 or Hopefully your friend doesnt own a farm. 8 farm murders this weekend, the farm murders that the clown news network thinks is a hoax. Rolling blackouts from 10 to 16 hours a day where I am. The local solar farm was sharing their excess power with us until the anc decided it wasn't fair to everyone else and cut the cables. 1 week left and my tour is over with this PMC. It was almost worth the paycheck.

I'd say I'm south African, but I watch too much barch and Sargon to be that. But at least the I still don't get water and lights.

To make sure you know to not let your kids watch it.

In the future, just look for the Disney logo. Thats a dead dead giveaway its woke trash 😃.

@@TheHaughtyOspreyHow is this woke? Black people = woke? Is that what you’re admitting to?

to be fair, id rather get glasses than live in a flood outbreak africa

New Mombasa was dope.

@@thatorangeguy3646 Its a far better hand africa got dealt then what the australians did and they got no more home in halo.

so an average day in Africa, apparently?

​@@decarus834is it just me or does Scifi really like fucking over Australia? I'm pretty sure Both Gundam and Gunbuster leveled the dam place as well

Modern day White Man's Burden

The thinly veiled racism from the left. They all have mental breakdown whenever this is pointed out.

Well considering what I know of history... er. Let's just say I can't post it here. But you're kinda close.

@@reggie6230 tbf, people have less time for entertainment when other things are a problem.

@@reggie6230 Blasphemy, nothing tops Ugandan cinema!

The cauldron. Remember flaming downspiral or not it's a megacorp. A very big one still.

So the story goes the pot/cauldron looks at the kettle and mocks it for being so ugly and useless because it's smoulder black. To which the kettle denies it by revealing it is actually so shiny clean it is reflective, and that it is merely the pot/cauldron seeing its own reflection. The story is generally misunderstood as two hypocrites talking to each other. But in reality it's one hypocrite projecting onto an innocent bystander.

@@ADayintheLifeoftheTw I think I and most others prefer the misunderstanding of that phrase.

@@ADayintheLifeoftheTw Disney is the pot, because it's the one that's dirty either way.

Yes I notice how ethnically unified, this new "diverse" show was ; ) and its not medieval Europe then continental travel was hard.

In the early days of White Animation, there was no diversity. African Animation is still in its early days. So let the game take a normal course

@@jollysquidmedia HAHAHAHAHAHA, they did, but it was all cut out, becuse it can offend snowflakes. The woman who own Tom in Tom and Jerry, was ogrinal black, but replaced by a white woman. Some of the servents in Fantasia was black (not there was white servents to) but was cut out. Some of the dolls in Santa's Workshop have difrent ethnicity then white, but was also cut out.

@@jollysquidmediaso you want segregation in fiction?

@@witchplease9695 you haven’t grasped it yet

Mah Nigg..

I'll take my hard R and love it.

Perfectly said.

Yeah part of me feels like if the creators where allowed to tell any story they like, some of these would have turned out a lot better. A few of them seem like the "Futurism" part was what was tripping them up.

My friend worked on two of these. They were not forced to put in any specific themes. You are projecting because you see Africa as a regressive monolith.

Exactly. Just watched it. Amazing

God, imagine what they could do with a budget. It'd be inspired.

Thats a crowedfound i would support

​@@Pink_Noodle I'm rather impressed with what they made with $85.00 USD.

Awe ma se kind

@@zonya429 lol, I always hear that in a coloureds voice.

What's also funny is its a floaty version of the older style minibus taxies that are known to be even shitty-er

Zimbabweans did not partake in the slave trade. It was against our culture and beliefs.

You make this out to be some big "gatcha!" yet you gloss over the fact that those colonial powers literally perpetuated the slave trade for hundreds of years before deciding they didn't like it anymore.

@@thewatcher7940 the legal slave trade was vibrant snd flourishing before the Europeans showed up. The Europeans were just their best customers. Then the Brits stomped it out globally

Oh no! Africa😱😱😱

Why?

@@You-to-be he’s a racist.

Totally racist.

​@@SmartDave60LMAO. Sure 😁

Just watched it. It's great. Give it a shot

@@sheriffdraws8789 will do

The most trash continent with the most trash cultures to ever exist? Nah prolly can't be cool ngl.

Ikr, I'm black and not a fan of afrofuturism. I actually like fantasy world with a bit of technology. Too bad Disney became so desperate for profits that they stopped caring about black Americans. The reason why Disney won't give us an actual Afro-fantasy story is because black people are brainwashed by abrahamic religions.

There’s literally countless of futuristic shows set in Europe with very few people of colour????

@@temitayoolaleye1617 Name one. I stopped to think for a second and realized I haven’t even heard of a futuristic show or film that wasn’t either set in space or in a setting so different from modern day wherever that the actual location is irrelevant since it could be literally anywhere. For example, the Total Recall remake is mostly set in Australia, but it’s set in a continent-sized (if I’m remembering correctly) city generic enough that you could say that it’s anywhere on the planet and be believable. Regardless, no one cares that something is set in Africa. That’s not the problem. The problem is literally forced diversity, especially in places where it logically doesn’t belong, like movies and shows set in any era (or fantasy equivalent) before easy long-distance travel.

You're not the target audience, though. And yes, European fantasy should be whatever the authors create if it's homogeniously white, so be it. If it has a bit of diversity here and there, so be it again. The author decides.

I'd give my right ball for a live action, Civ based, Ghandi movie where he nukes absolutely everyone.

There actually was a Shaka Zulu series in the 90's if I remember correctly

​@@Martijn_SteinpatzI meant modern, but sadly I doubt we'd get that soon

@@MrLolguy93 Look at it this way, if we got it anytime soon... it would likely be woke as fuck.

@@MrLolguy93 Your definitely not gonna get anything as evenly balanced as ZULU for depictions of both the Zulu Empire and the British Empire. That time has long past.

And who told you Africans don't build up.their standards of living?

I remember a Vice journo asking Wakaliwood in Uganda why they make crude, hyperviolent action movies when they've experienced so much war themselves, and being met with bemused expressions and a general statement of "we like The Matrix and Terminator". These are the stories Africans want to make, as derivative and shallow as they are.

It was a good. Keep crying

This is African folklore. You just wanted degeneracy and grim tribal stuff to mock and exploit

@@FeedMeMister Because Africans aren't very different from anyone else in the world like many seem to think they are. They still enjoy many of the same things we enjoy, so obviously they are going to want to make stories that are similar to what they like. You and the other guy might want to watch animated shorts based on African folk lore, but you're assuming that Africans are all obsessed with their traditional folklore as if it's something constantly on their mind. People still believe in their folklore because they're actual religions. So, in the same way that most Christians aren't constantly thinking about the Bible and can also enjoy fantasy and scifi films, people who follow African religions are going to be the same way. Not to mention, MANY Africans are actually Muslim, Christian, and Jewish, and therefore probably don't engage with their traditional religions often. Also, to call this show shallow because it depicts fantasy and scifi settings that are somewhat familiar to you is to really misunderstand the point of the show. It screams like a tourist asking a native to do "native things" because they want to see something "exotic." The show is representing ideas that appeal to the people that created the episodes. And despite the scifi/fantasy appearance, the show does still clearly show themes based on traditional African folklore and cultural standards. Ancestor veneration, gods abandoning mortals, etc.

@@thewatcher7940 I largely agree with you, except for your assumptions about me. Normal people generally want to tell and be told normal stories that follow the same tropes that have served humanity well since we learned to tell them. I will disagree on one thing you said, however. It is shallow because it lacks depth, not because I had different expectations. Being shallow and derivative isn't entirely a negative thing, either. Most entertainment is shallow and derivative. I haven't gotten mad at Dragon Quest for making the same game for over 30 years.

people complained about the "african" building designs in black panther.

Yes, but also no. New Mombasa does have elements of modern Mombasa but also got to take into account of the in-universe & lore. Gentrification & 500 years of cultural development.

And then they yell rasismisms when you do. As usual.

A stepping stone for those who have unique ideas and the ones that hit will be good while not destroying anything else.

“So it can be safely ignored” Oh so that’s why you troglodytes hate Black Panther so much, because it was a global hit. If a African media gains mainstream popularity, you’ll quickly throw the “make your own original stuff” excuse that hides your bias away.

I see a white door and want it painted black

Creation and destruction are two sides of the same coin afterall.

Well when you see African and realize, that only superficial things and when you read coments and there is, there is African ideas, but mix with western things and sometimes going more, i personaly, realize that will happen, all culture will disappearn in a grey blob nothing to do

Bearly have any of their culture left? 😂 you clearly haven't been to many African countries have you? Even the ones you assume are westernised preserve the cultures of their ancestors.

Deportation to South Africa. Possibly as a farmer.

So it seems. So it seems.

Lobotomy... with power tools.

Ireland is African I suppose

And what's wrong with that? Japanese animation was influenced by Disney. Your point being?

@@Bigwillystyle707They’re racist hypocrites.

“Forced to have female protagonists” African folklore and mythology has always centered women. There is nothing wrong with a woman being a protagonist. Stop projecting your hatred for women onto Africa.

@@witchplease9695 Stop assuming I am this or that or think this or that. Yoruba culture is shit women centered, for example.

​@@witchplease9695Exactly

Where exactly did you see Africans saying this?

Your first sentence is actually touching at something possibly intelligent, but your second sentence just proves you barely understand your own words.

Sort of. The Community itself gives the assignments, the Giver is just the poor joe that has to bear the memories of the Community so they can have their “utopia”. When the current Giver gets too old, a new one is chosen to be the Receiver of those memories and they’ll become the next Giver.

@@IamBlackToast Thanks for the refresher. I haven’t read that book in almost 20 years so the details were foggy.

@@sassyghost_8 No problem. Admittedly, it’s been about that long for me, too, and that’s all I could remember of it. XD

@@IamBlackToast I had to read it in 5th grade (don’t know who thought it was a good idea to put that in our curriculum) so I barely remember it. 😅

According to what research and stats?

why do studios assume that 2D equals low frame rate?

@@613-shadow9 it's not 2D, it's 3D, just choppy I think

😂😂 Is that so? Tell me what research have you conducted to make this conclusion?

I don't think Disney is proud of this project

Rofl😂

Rhodesia is dead lad and it was a no better since only white people benefited while the majority lived in poverty.

There are plenty of medieval African fantasy novels

likewise chasing other cultures for the trendy nature of it is how you could argue the black cauldron could never have been a thing with modern disney, european folklore, on the face of it, isn't trendy, yet it's all they know, so rebranding with different cultural faces was of course the way it's been pushed in recent years

They shouldn't tell African stories but they should keep getting African people to buy and support their products? Makes sense

Ah man, so I should get upset at other countries for selling me only their stories?

@Soubifloof no, you should learn to think like a business person lol. If they're trying to grow into other markets then they will need to change their strategy. There's a big demand for this kind of content in Africa. Why do you think streaming services have divisions for different regions?

@@josephelijah4073 with today's movie makers? The same ones that see the african people as a damn near monolith?