It's actually Robertson. I think they are the best driver type. Torx are decent, but I have issues with them "camming out" like a phillips head will often do. That never happens with the Robertson/square drive. They are rock solid.
I picked up the new screwdriver and smaller multi set about a month back and it is my go-to set for around the house as I remodel. My only desire is a clip mount you could get to attach the screwdriver to their MODBox system so it stays with the set. I really like their new cases... the boxes are well made and don't feel like they will shatter when dropped repeated times. Klein has always been a favorite for screwdrivers & electrical tools for me and has been killing it with the new tools that have and are coming out.
We really have Milwaukee to thank for all this innovation. Klein finally got some pressure in the hand tools market, especially from the made in USA Milwaukee line up. It has forced them to go heavy into their R&D bringing us these witty and multifunctional designs. People thought it was over for Klein after HD closing the door on them to drive a wedge between Milwaukee and Klein, but it just made the both of them get better.
I am a tool fanatic. I look for function, quality and design. This seems to have all of that. I love mobile compact sets that enable you to perform every vital tool function. Thank you for posting this video.
Leatherman has always been my go to. But they seem to have been focusing on the “tacticool” crowds lately and forgotten to innovate like Klein has been. Really impressed with this new pass through set from Klein. I recently picked up that 7 in 1 nut driver set from Klein and have been very happy with it. Thanks for the video!
I agree. I still carry my Wave 2. However, I work at Lowe's and make side cash with appliance repair. That's why my Google Creeper served this video up. I'm glad it did. I'll use my 10% discount on this set. Liking the video, BTW.
I bought a Bibury Pro (surge) and a Klein driver off of your recomendation, I'm a big fan of them both. I went for the ratcheting one, the 17-in-1 I think. I love the convenince of tool compatibility, harmony is an excellent way to phrase such a concept.
I'm glad I clicked into this because I hadn't heard of bibury before, and I really like the look of that tool, especially for the price. It's barely more than the replacement case I just bought for my leatherman rebar, and it's got a significantly more useful bit system...
I got a custom leather sheath made for one of those victorinox bit set/drivers and the knipex baby cobras that works as a left cheek wallet. Between that “wallet” and regular things like a pocket knife and whatever else one carries I found as much utilities as a multi tool with way less bulk. And they’re all dedicated tools that don’t compromise on anything
Great video, I have a Leatherman Wave that would also interface with the 1/4 Inch drive system employed here and that does have an extension too. Tang tools also have a 1/4 inch socket set that includes a ratcheting ring spanner that interfaces with this system, I am also a devotee of tool interfacing, expansion and synergy. It just keeps getting better.
As an electrician and you don’t wanna carry hella tools in tight spaces I love Klein tools. Their little utility knife with 1/4 inch hex screw driver is amazing along with the long neck 5 in 1 screw driver is absolutely perfect for me
I sincerely hope you're getting this stuff free of charge because believe you me... I plan on buying everything you show here! Please tell me I'm not the only one... right?
I like pairing Klein flip sockets (different from this video) with an Icon, Wera 813R, or Topeak Rocketlite-it’s light and compact. I’m probably in the minority, but in my opinion, Klein makes MASSIVE, Goliath-like screwdrivers. I wasn’t interested in those and went for more compact options. The yellow ones seem better suited for people with bigger hands than mine.
The best bit retention on a screwdriver is either on the wiha ultradriver screwdriver where it works well with standard and wiha double sided bits, or the newer Milwaukee fastback 6-in-1 utility knife with its ball detent collar system. I don’t know why either style hasnt been made popular on bit extenders yet. For ball detent double sided bits, I will usually just pop it into one of the sleeves of the the klein ratcheting screwdriver. Between the fastback that I edc and the Klein that I keep in the work truck, I can pretty much use any style bit.
Those klein sets are cool but I've had a craftsman through hole socket set that has everything the 1/4" and 3/8" set you've shown has plus it has metric sockets, a lot more sizes, and a screwdriver handle that can hold the 1/4" extension for like 10 years now and it's all in one box
I had the same epiphany with my tool bag when I added the ICON flex head ratchet and bit set to it. I realized I can put the 4" extension into my Craftsman All•In•One screwdriver, and turn it into a bit driver.
I have the Victorinox bit holder with the 711L EDC Ratchet and a regular 1/4” extender instead of the Victorinox L shaped driver. It’s so flat, compact and useful. I rarely even bother putting the ratchet into my Wave as this little set up works so well without it.
Great video, it's always good to have options when kitting out a small tool kit and double-ended bits can save space and weight. Klein makes/sells a lot of the short format double-ended bits with ball detent, more than you'll see at most retail stores. I think the 27-in-1 ( Klein #32307 ) you mentioned has the most of this style bits in one kit and is a good start. Can get 2" long double-ended bits with Megapro drivers, and Klein #32305 driver. These 2" long bits work with the Mossy Oak ( or Bibury also I think ) 21-in-1 multi tool with a magnet in the bit driver, and will also work in the Ozark Trail multiforce extension. Chapman Manufacturing makes 1/4" hex shank single-sided bits with ball detents that work with the Multiforce or any other multi-tool with the deeper 1/4" holder. Chapman bits are good quality, and they also offer drivers, extensions, and ratchets. The Chapman extensions would probably be a good choice for a higher-quality extension for the Multiforce, but they don't have magnets so best to use bits with ball-detents. Thanks!
My Wiha double-sided security bits work great in the Milwaukee Fastback 6 in 1. That's a match made in heaven. And the Roxon S501U is a very complimentary tool for the Fastback, especially with the file or saw insert to go with those scissors. A pair of Knipex Cobra pliers would round out a nice 3-piece toolkit.
Leatherman bit Extension pairs nicely with the 711L Mini Ratchet to use the Klein ball-detent double bits (as well as the intended Leatherman flat bits for a lightweight carry option on lesser used sizes). When the Extension is placed in the standard 1/4" sized magnetic tail of the 711L, you end up with a nice-in-hand screwdriver. Likewise, the Leatherman bit Adapter brings the same Klein compatability to the Bond (or anything that fits in its square end, such as Victorinox Rambler's Phillips for minimal carry).
The Swiss Tool X w/this wrench kit has been my favorite. I added the pocket clip for the Swiss Tool X, and the wrench kit fits nicely in a pocket organizer. All that was just about the price of the Arc, and in my opinion way more useful because of the 1/4" capability with that wrench.
I have just recently come to appreciate the Swiss Tool Spirit X. I had one in hand before but thought I would like the Leatherman ARC more. I balked at the price for the ARC, came back to the Spirit X after getting a good deal on it, and really love it. It's a very well made tool with an excellent feature set. It's even made me come to appreciate other Victorinox multitool pocket knives I already own even more for their quality. I would have preferred the one handed opening of the MX Clip, but it wasn't worth the much higher cost compared to the one I purchased at a substantially discounted price.
Nepros is the highest quality tools I've ever seen. Out of Japan from the KTC corporation the same people that make Koken. Very harmonic working tools..
as a maint guy at a hotel, the most used tool is that ratcheting impact klein with an impact driver, i can do almost everything i need to. i had no clue it worked with those modboxes! i coulda swore i just saw a video saying that they dont work together, maybe it was just for the non ratcheting one or something but ill have to get it because doing things like closet bolts are annoying
Neat stuff. I love Last Best. My morning ritual when I get to the office is to confirm the nightly backups went through while I watch Last Best and Amber at Exile Armory. (Obviously MaxLvl too lol)
The double sided ball detent bits from my Klein 10-in1 screwdriver fit perfectly in my Leatherman bit extension. Not sure what incompatibility you are referring to.
I saw those videos, too, and had to check them out at Lowe's last weekend. Don't think I can justify the purchase as I have similar tools already, but Klein's MODbox™ tool system is very cool.
Fingernail clipper is the number one item I want in my multitool. So far, the only company I've seen that does a nail clipper is Roxon with their M5. But, it's a small tool without as many blade positions. Number 2, I want a great file; then a can opener. I can find 20 different ways to pop off a bottle cap. But, I only know 3 ways to open my can of beans without a can opener. And none of them are pretty. (spoon, rock and screwdriver) After these priorities I want all the standard blades. This is a cool set, and I'll have consider getting that Klein ratchet. Thanks for the great videos.
Kinda got clickbaited by that gorgeous leather case, thought it was a new multitool. Luckily i stuck around to find out that it's for the centredrive and now i need it. Lol. Incidentally i recently bought a makita impact driver edc set. Works perfectly for my centredrive and impact driver at a new house that i forgot to bring my toolbox. Make me realise 80% of the time, i don't need a box full of tools. Might have to start clearing up the tool box (and tyre garage full of other tools!)
I own tons of klein tools the mini extendable 11 in 1 screw driver even the larger store in the handle ones are legit. Now I'll have the pass through. I get the klein wire strippers and wire crimps last week
@@davidvallerius4458 since the metric kit just came out, I think just 2 weeks ago or so, the stores maybe are just now starting to get over there. Maybe eBay has one you could get. They have an international shipping plan That's pretty great.
A ball detent extension is very cheap, this is good they're using it actually. You can pick up pretty much any impact or non impact extension. Gearwrench makes nice cheap ones, also pivoting ones as well.
Dom' mused in passing about a Klein MT. A Klein MT would rightly pique the interest of many. Doubtless they could eventually produce a stout, solid product worthy of their brand. Would they commit to the major tooling outlays and lengthy trial process to work out 100 inevitable kinks, before they're able to offer their first unit for sale? They might figure they're doing just fine in the tool market, without troubling themselves with a foray into the MT one.
So what is the advantage of the pass thru design? Standard sockets have been around for over a hundred years and work universally but you have to give that up to go with the pass thru design, what are you getting in return? Seems like marketing silliness to me..
Obviously you've never had to remove a nut from a bolt that is too long to use a standard socket or a threaded rod. The only other choice is an adjustable or open/box wrench or a ratcheting box wrench.
Nice video!😊 You discussed this concept in two earlier videos which included the Klien 11-1 & the 27-1....can the Klien ball detent drivers be used in the Leatherman bit extender? I think you might have said this as you mentioned it would be the only way that the Surge, for example, might increase it's range...Very glad that Lowes has kept Klien on...HD did not & there are no Lowes where I'm at....your concepts just emphasize the point that if the LTG does not make adjustments, they will eventually go the way of the dinosaur...they should be leading the way in the innovation you are talking about...Klien teaming up with the "clone" companies would give these companies a "purchase" in the market place in terms of an established company willing to work with the "new kids on the block"...😊
@@maxlvledcI'd really rather see a klein/leatherman crossover. I just think gerber has to many qc issues. This isn't something new either. As a master sparky I need a multitool to work every single time when 150' up in the air and it took me an hour to climb up there. Try not to forget any tools but also wanna keep tools to a minimum. Gerber multitools have failed me at the worst of times.
This video brings up a lot of great points, and shows some great tool sets but I really wish Klein would stop with the double end ball detent. The detent simply doesn't hold as well for me personally
I went to Lowe’s and found the Klein tools,staff didn’t know. They were locked up in a case,went to customer services and asked for someone to open it,waited 30 minutes,still no one showed up,but store security walked by a few times.
Is there anyway to add scissors to Gerber Dual Force? Watching the video, I remember that's the Gerber I own. I definitely need a holster for it and bits. Seriously considering getting the Klein pass through, driver, and modboxes. I think the modbox would be great for my radio gear.
I been trying for years to get leatherman or gerber to sell individual tool part to their multi tool. Like, at work I carry the leatherman wave, but i wish it had the same serrated blade that comes on the titanium surge- where it has the safety cutter (aka seat belt cutter aka wire sheathing stripper). Some people don’t care about scissors but would prefer dedicated Philips and dedicated standard blade. I never use my can opener but would like a second mini screwdriver. I shouldn’t have to buy 3 or 4 different multi tools to be able to make my own. I don’t get why none of the manufacturers can’t figure out to just say “size 1, size 2, etc” and people could buy all the specific parts they want to remove and install their own parts they want
The Plus has scissors instead of the serrated blade and a multi blade instead of the normal straight blade. The Rescue has a strap cutter instead of the normal blade and a half serrated reverse Tanto instead of the serrated blade.
Not trying to bring you down I get where you're going with this, but from the thumbnail and title I was expecting maybe grabbing one or two common driver bits and finding a way to practically integrate them into one of your EDC toolkits.
As a handyman i use the 10 in 1 everyday. Its awesome, but it lives in my toolbox, i wouldnt classify it as my edc. The only thing i carry on my body after work is my goat multitool
I’m an electrician and have used Klein tools for the last 15 years. Their packaging , appearance and organization have gotten alot better but their steel and tool quality have went down significantly. ALL of my bits, not some, ALL have warped and deformed on fairly light to medium work. Even the torx driver set with the pullout holder on the bottom I got for my knives deformed just by loosening t6’s, t8’s and t10’s. I’m very dissatisfied with their stuff . I have the ratcheting driver that I use everyday and guess what? The ratchet mechanism broke twice (I warrantied it out). The sole reason I continue to use their hand tools is because their dealers have a no questions asked warranty
I bought a Klein screwdriver set with the 30 bits, all bits have rust not even 2 months old. When I unboxed them they had a slight surface rust on some, now all of them are rusted, mind you I live in Arizona, no humidity
The instrument is, of course, excellent. But nothing replaces just a single screwdriver. Sometimes the screw is in a deep and narrow well, where the thick tube of a universal screwdriver will not fit.
A bit off topic but any chance you could recommend a belt clip for the wave that doesn’t break? I keep buying the leatherman branded ones and they breaks within the first month. I could understand if I stressed it a lot but I really don’t put a lot of force on it
i wonder if this is compatible with craftsman max axess passthrough sockets. this is what i always hoped craftsman would evolve that system into, but they just came out with the passthrough socket set and kind of shelved the system
