My strength and conditioning coach taught me to never bend at the elbows when doing a clean. Just shrug and catch it in the front squat. Executed properly the momentum of the weight (jump and shrug) gets it high enough for you to squat under. Something like that. So why is Klokov recommending to bend at the elbows? Doesn't that rely too much on arm as opposed to fully body strength?
DontNeedToKnow84 No shrugging is wrong. You need to bend the elbows let the weight travel up without using a shrug, because clean is not a movement involving arm strength. With light weight you can pull from arms using a shrug but when the weight gets really heavy you won't be able to shrug that :)
DontNeedToKnow84 There are different schools/methods in weightlifting when it comes to early pulling with the arms. Some teach it, some avoid it, and some teaches using the lats which can slightly bend the elbows indirectly but not actively.
+DontNeedToKnow84 super late to the party, but here goes: it's just a single drill here, where the aim is to get correct triple extension mechanics (bar hits body while both are rising, body takes bar along with it). the bent arms keep the bar close as it rises. in the full lift done heavy enough, the arms are what pull you under the bar so you can catch it (little to no shrug to actively lift the bar, it's the triple extension that propels the barbell upwards), and the torso is also thrown backwards out of the way to further let the bar travel up and not out (whereas here he stays over it because he's not using anything remotely heavy and is just concentrating on showing proper leg and hip mechanics.
Joshua Smith Am glad someone knows what there talking about! Too many people get this confused with bending there arms too early in the pull with this new found hip clean silliness. The bend in the arms on the final pull also helps initiate pulling under the bar
@n00bie ok if that's the point then I understand, not sure if I agree though. If you pull it higher, just receive it higher and ride it down, the key is not diving all the way to the bottom and wait for the bar to crash you. simillar things happen in different styles of squat jerk, where Lu Xiaojun would drive the bar to the same height no matter the weight, but Shi Zhiyong will drive the bar to maximum height and support it, so power jerk if it's light, and full squat jerk if it's heavy. Both styles have their pros and cons, but I think for beginners, it's easier to adjust receiving position than to adjust force generated.
+AJ GOAT it's just one drill to work on specific things, so other things are not focused on here, specifically. he teaches a higher pull on his snatch drill (as seen on the snatch pull video on this same channel), but the arm focus is on keeping the bar close rather than lifting it, which is the legs' job, and will happen correctly if the drill is correctly executed (bring the bar to the body rather than bringing the hips to the bar/humping the bar; it's better specified in the snatch pull video, which is from the same seminar, he doesn't say it here because he'd already said it before). bent arms are to be able to keep the bar close on this drill as it rises, as with straight arms he finds that it tends to go forwards away from the body.
Chinese and Bulgarian lifters have weak legs and only Russian lifters have strong legs? I think Lu Xiaojun would disagree. Pound for pound they are currently the strongest lifters. Russians had their day. Dont be hatin.
Well, don't think anyone is surprised that a russian is thinking that russians (in this case lifters) are the best (in this case have the strongest legs). But hey, anyone is entitled to his opinion. Look at all time won medals and you'll see how strong their legs are.
