Klonoa for the Wii is a bad remake. 

I'm putting the chapters in this pinned comment, because RU-vid just won't let me use the chapters feature in the actual video player. Believe me, I tried everything, I followed all the steps, I just can't do it for some reason. I tried contacting RU-vid on Twitter and they didn't say a word back. Thanks, RU-vid! 0:00 Intro 3:25 Visuals 6:42 Cutscenes 10:43 Sound 17:31 Gameplay changes and updates 21:37 Comparing the ending 36:34 Final Thoughts and PRS

15:20 Balue sounding like an angry dog in the original. In the Wii remake he sounds like a crazy old man.

Oh please, I would never spoil this ending. Honestly I’m waiting for gamers who bought Phantasy Reverie because it looks cute to get to parts like this and the grandpa scene so I can laugh at their shock. I’m sadistic sometimes

Klonoa DTP killed me as a kid. I remember crying all morning about that ending.

Spoiler here Grandpa was fully aware of Huepow's trickery toward Klonoa, and was in on it. One of his final lines "It was only a short while" i feel, is him hinting to the player that Klonoa's circumstances in Phantomile are unique, especially once you're aware of the ending. But it's also framed in a way that new players would interpret that line as Granpda talking about how Klonoa is just a little kid.

It's not a bad remake to me honestly, i think it's more appropriate for gamers that don't give a shit about the story and just want to enjoy a good old platformer. Also this game was dubbed in many languages as well, and funny enough, all of them have a better voice for Klonoa than the English one, tho it still feels like they're just saying it with no emotion whatsoever, especially in the Spanish dub (which is the one i played). But all this big bible of text goes to the bin considering that KPRS has a much, MUCH better port of DTP than the Wii one, thus making it obsolete, but I'll still revisit the Wiimake from time to time like with many Klonoa games. But your video was very good and very well detail, i got a laugh from some moments as well, keep it up!

My first experience with Door to Phantomile was with Phantom Reverie series. (I actually only beat it around an hour ago at the time of writing this comment.) So it's interesting to see how similar it is to the Wii version and how much they were able to improve it

I didn't play the originals so I decided to play the Phantasy Reverie Series. Long story short, I'm a Klonoa fan now lol. Loved the video, you just earned yourself a new subscriber.

''Best FMV on the consle.'' Have a ever heard of Oddworld?

Not gonna lie, the English track’s shout during the grandpa scene is kind of hilarious. It sounds like he just forgot his shopping list and Klonoa is trying to catch up and tell him

20% dislike ratio... They hated ToastyMann because he told them the truth. In all honesty, I'm kind of surprised anyone bothered making this video at all. Maybe I just wasn't looking in the right places, but to me it always seemed like the Klonoa fanbase was a little bit too forgiving and uncritical of this remake. Before now I had hardly ever seen any criticisms other than the surface-level, "Teenage Klonoa is awkward," and, "Why doesn't Huepow have hands?" Not too many people seem to care when it comes to the lifeless animation, the muted color palette, the totally botched ending scene, and the many other things that make it demonstrably inferior to the PS1 original. Frankly I'm really glad that you decided to tear the Wii game a new one. It's very cathartic to hear somebody properly and publicly articulate every grievance I've silently held against this remake for so many years.

When i first saw the wiimake ending years ago i fucking cried tears of laughter

Counterpoint: I fucking sobbed at the ending when I played it on Wii. The PS1 was (slightly) before my time so that was my introduction to Klonoa, and I loved it. I think I've played it three times. So while I'll grant that the PS1 presentation of the ending might be more detailed, I don't think the remake is any less impactful.

32:40 As a person who played the Phantasy Reverie Series version of this game, Hewpow still freezes in place during this scene.

I’m happy that for in-game cutscenes in the Phantasy remake are using OG PS1 scripts and voices though FMV scenes will probably be using Wii cutscenes & voices, which is disappointment and considering how much it borrows from Wiimake. It will still have dull camera movement & stilted animations. However, since it will use OG scripts and voices within the in-game cutscenes. I’m happy that chemistry between Klonoa, Huepow, and few others will actually feel impactful and having charming voices. They also made their designs more faithful to OG PS1 and I like how colorful it looks compared to Wiimake. I hope that Phantasy remake is gonna become decent substitute when it releases

I 100% agree that the new voice doesn’t fit Klonoa here, but god do I love it for him anyways!

Great video mate. I got into Klonoa a couple years ago and fell in love instantly, and was lucky enough to not have the ending spoiled. But I only played the Wiimake after the Phantasy Reverie remake was announced so I could get a better idea of what to expect. Holy fuck, was I disappointed. I actually made a video pretty similar to this a few months ago, going fully in depth about the opening FMV, but I'm glad this video exists to compare the ending, as I didn't want to put any spoilers in my video. It honestly baffles me that I haven't seen as many people talk about these differences in the fandom, but I'm glad the new remakes are improving upon this, though I don't think anything could ever replace the original

I’ve played both the original and Phantasy Reverie.(The Wiimake is going for ridiculous prices right now) The new remake feels pretty faithful to the character designs and gameplay of the original. The visuals are also a lot more vivid and colorful than what you’ve shown of the Wii one here. I think you’ll enjoy it.

Excellent editing my dude

I know you said you were making a video on it, but do you think the new remakes are good? Cause I honestly think they are based on what I seen so far, aside from the Wii ending being reused, but I'm curious to know if you think they're pretty decent remakes despite some flaws?

As someone who's first experience with Door to Phantomile being the Switch remake, I'd say they did a good job! 👍

I would like to hear your thoughts on the new remake. I just played through it & the graphics were great in most places, but there was a lack of polish in the gameplay & big changes (like the look & feel of the Joka boss fight) that didn't sit well. After playing K2 in the remakes, it seems to me like they started remaking just K2 & then thought that no one would know what Klonoa was, so they sort of rushed it, using the code & most of the graphics from the Wii. That's just my assumption, but what do you think?

34:25 To think that I was gonna drop $44 - $50 on this Wiimake two years ago.... THANK GOD FOR PHANTASY REVERIE!!

If there is gonna be an optional English Dub in the Re-Remake, then it should have much better fitting voices. (Not that’ll happen) Also I’m gonna be a little biased about the visuals for a bit. As a 2000s kid, even though I never played this remake, I kinda like how it looks. It obviously doesn’t fit a game like Klonoa, but these visuals remind me of an Xbox 360 and PS3 game, which I like. I don’t think it is better, but it’s just something that looks nostalgic to me.

I can't wait to get the Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series. It's the only game that I'm actually kinda hyped for in like 3 years. By the way, really good video! 👍

1:11 What was missing in NST? I recall they brought back stormy ascent from the original.

My first experience with Klonoa was with the Wiimake when I was a kid. Having recently played through Phantasy Reverie, I feel like my kid self was robbed lmao.

Dang, the remasters for Klonoa earned 800,000 pre-orders?? Before being released in North America?? They might've sold >1 million units by now. I'm not used to Klonoa games selling THAT well; maybe they'll create remakes of other entries in the series? I don't know if even Pac-Man World RePac sold as many unit. I'd be shocked if it didn't. There's a fair bit of nostalgia for Klonoa, and the fans have basically been acting as an unpaid marketing department for Klonoa for the past 25 years. For doing the job that namco's marketing department should've been doing, they ought to be getting paid for promoting these games. Hopefully, this means we'll see more games starring this floppy-eared cat. We're years overdue for a Klonoa/Sonic the Hedgehog crossover. Excellent video, btw!

Are we going to see a video on the fantasy reviere version? I'd love to hear your opinions on that.

Honestly you get a thumbs up just for the intro LOL. That was funny and clever too.

This is fantastic, I personally think both are very good, Wiimake's visuals and higher quality music almost make up for the aliasing and English VA work. But the PS1 game is still just so damn good. The opening and ending being pre-rendered adds so much to the dreamlike feel. Now- other scenes you could use to avoid the "for kids" stain ruining your video -Bite the curb scene from American History X -Uncut Resident Evil 1 opening or first zombie encounter where he drops Kenneth's head -Ending of HL2 Episode 2 -Evangelion Unit 02 vs Mass Production EVAs -Literally any shot from The Second Revolution in Animatrix

my problem with KPRS is that - vision 6-1 and 6-2 look bad compared even to Wii remake. Klonoa 1 had moving meteors in the background, wii had moving dark clouds, KPRS has... static generic stars; - it lacks mirror mode. Mirror levels contain portals with hard platform section. I miss this a lot

I can’t believe it, a detailed review and comparison between Klonoa Wii and PS1. I’m a Wiimake enjoyer but I gotta say this review was VERY well done. I never realized that the Wiimake redid the Phantomilan voices actually (though I still prefer it over the PS1 for being more clear, outside Balue holy crabs I forgot how much I hated his Wii Phantomilan voice) Either way, glad to actually see actual reasons about why so many prefer the PS1 version over the Wii version. I played the Wii version first and even though I could tell that it wasn’t perfect and that the PS1 version definitely had the better script and MUCH better ending, I didn’t fully realize just how much better the story is presented in the PS1 version. While I do go back to the original PS1 version every now and then, I can definitely appreciate it more than I used to. My biggest reasons for preferring the Wiimake were the gameplay differences (bigger Wind-Bullet range [sucks that it’s only stuck to easy in PRS], faster speed, etc.), better animations and modeling in-game (I agree that the coloring is too drab, but the modeling and texturing is really great and even upscales well in Dolphin imo), and the new outfit (though I agree that it’s weird having the Klonoa 2 proportions for the younger DTP Klonoa). Pretty much, I preferred Wii for the gameplay and PS1 for the presentation Either way, I’m just hoping that PRS can soundly be the best of each world. The demo was really enjoyable and gave me much hope and gosh was it amazing to see that it seems to be doing well with pre-orders. This Thursday really can’t come soon enough, I hope we all are able to enjoy Klonoa’s grand return!

THIS COMMENT REFERS TO SPOILER MATERIAL. I was vague about the biggest plot detail but please don't read if you haven't played this game. One thing I noticed about the wiimake's cutscenes that I think sums the whole thing up happens towards the end of the scene where [REDACTED]. After Pamela picks Klonoa up and flies away, she flies off-screen and out of the frame. Except, she doesn't. Her model stops off-camera like in 99% of all 3D animation, but they cut the framing wrong and you can still see a part of her model frozen there in the corner. It's tiny, ridiculously easy to fix mistakes like that which add up and drag the whole thing down. Also, Pamela in general was a really big victim of the switch to in-engine cutscenes. She lost all of her beautiful extra fins and fluid animation in flight that really made her feel like something more than a fish. To me she felt like a dragon in the original's cutscenes, she was truly gorgeous.

This was a really good review! The Wii remake does have a budget feel to it and I really wish the cutscenes had better animation! Also, I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on Phantasy Reverie Series, I do feel like they should’ve used the original FMV’s, those cutscenes still look amazing to this day and replacing them with in-engine cutscenes really hurts the presentation of the story! :)

10:18 VOLUME warning headphone users. My ear still hurt. I played the original when I was a kid. Several times. In my opinion the original is so much superior than the remake.

where did you find the artwork yo used in the transition at 17:34?

I personally don't have an issue with Eric Stitt as Klonoa, but... Sonic headass

My first experience with Klonoa was with this remake but yeah…I can definitely agree with all of the points you made in this video. Really well done

Was thinking if a Klonoa got a movie, would be possible to adapt it? One would think the moments write by themselves because the game is plot heavy. But would modern cinema let such good bitter ending be?

So I'm glad the new version of Klonoa Door to Phantomile has the option to play with the original PS1 game's difficulty and the easy mode from the Wii version which you can thankfully change at any time during the game in the pause menu... Which was the only way I could complete 6-2 because I've been stuck on that stage for so long and I kept getting So many game overs because the platforms are so small

If I could describe the remake in one word, it would be wasted. You made really good points in this review. What in Lady Palutena's world were they even doing here?

that last of us part killed me lmao

11:30 My version of the game have also Japanese language to choose from, but maybe it is only a feature for the PAL version of the game.

Can you remind me what the music at 6:20 is from?

29:08 Which game had that fmv? It looks so bad it's good.

Well………. I’m extremely disappointed now. “My disappointment is immeasurable…… and my day is ruined”

Finally someone said it! This version is so fucking ass it's not even funny. It's absolute slap to the face to the original. The recent remasters didn't do an excellent job in making the og better but it's light-years ahead of this dog shit. It's as good as it's gonna get

Great video but I think I found a rival for 29:00 for best FMVs in the PS1 it’s called the legend of dragoon but still Klonoa FMVs are still fantastic in my eyes unlike the other PS1 FMVs But still good to know I found a video finally describing how the Wii remake is bad because I straight up questioned why I preferred the PS1 version in almost every way

Ok, so I finished the first game remake in Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series, and I gotta be honest, I thought it was pretty good. I honestly didn't have any frame rate issues or control issues, and the gameplay is just as fun as before, plus I kinda like how it looks, especially when compared to the Wiimake. Not as good looking as the PS1 version but pretty decent looking nonetheless in my opinion. It does has some problems, I won't deny that, such as some of the cutscenes, which I think could be better if they fix Klonoa’s mouth so he doesn’t accidentally smile during some important scenes, plus the ending is nowhere as perfect as the PS1 version, but I find it kinda better than the Wiimake if I have to be honest. So yeah, they probably really could have done a bit more, but honestly, I'm happy with it nonetheless, regardless of its flaws. Really excited to see how the Klonoa 2 remake turns out, especially since I heard that it was an better remake than the first one.

I have a LOT I want to say about this review, the Wii remake, the Phantasy Reverie Series, and just a bit of Lunatea's Veil. Seriously, this will be a long one. If you haven't finished the review, scroll back up RIGHT NOW because I will be talking spoilers too. You have been warned. I do want to point out that I believe you might have really misinterpreted some crucial ingredients of that ending(But to be fair, things are so open and unexplained in the canon duology that some of the observations you make about it that I don't agree with may really be the actual intention, nobody knows for sure). Klonoa never came across to me like he was upset or angry with Huepow about what he had done to his memories. He's just upset that he doesn't get to stay in Phantomile. The conflict isn't that he's mad at Huepow and demands answers about what's going on, but just the opposite. He loves Huepow and unabashedly considers him his best friend and he absolutely doesn't want any answers about what's actually going on. He's so attached to the world and in denial about leaving that he's attempting to gaslight himself into accepting that Phantomile absolutely is and always will be his real home. He doesn't want to accept or even acknowledge the truth. Huepow gets a little more blunt later on in the scene because he knows it's unhealthy for Klonoa to keep thinking that way and he wants Klonoa to work past it, accept the truth, and ultimately grow from it(that newfound maturity is perfectly reflected in Lunatea's Veil). This part is really up to interpretation, especially considering that Klonoa realizes Lunatea isn't his home either, but I'm just personally of the belief that Klonoa has no idea what world he's really from. I also don't think that, even if he does, that he's adamant on staying in Phantomile because his other life sucks, but because he feels such an unhealthy attachment to Phantomile. Even if he does know what his original life was like, I'd honestly sooner believe that he considers it too to be a great one, but just actively chooses Phantomile anyway. The Wii remake is bad. you already spent 40 minutes discussing why it's bad, so I won't spend TOO long throwing my hat in the ring, though I do have at least a couple of things to say. You mentioned Caddicarus being one of the only big RU-vidrs to give Klonoa the spotlight, but the next biggest is probably ExoParadigmGamer(you should really check him out if you haven't already). This isn't a personal attack to him(because I usually love his analyses), but I HARD disagree with his take on the Wii remake. Still, if you love the Klonoa series, he's definitely worth looking into. The Wii remake sucks and you don't need me to tell you that. Maybe I'm looking into things too much, but I think if there's any other reason it turned out the way it did, I'm thinking it might have been the series creator's potential dissatisfaction with how Door to Phantomile ultimately turned out. He originally wanted something much grittier(observable by the infamous original character design he had in mind) and I'm thinking he might have went the way of George Lucas. Maybe he didn't recognize the genius of his own work and tried tampering with it too much until we got the Wii remake. Credit goes to TheGamingBritShow(another big RU-vidr who gave the series some attention) for this one, but Door to Phantomile is potentially the single tightest video game experience ever created. The only slights I have with it are the bit of momentum Klonoa has on the ground and the Mirror Spirits. The Wii remake ultimately feels like it lost almost all of the original's tight feeling. I thought I wouldn't say much about the Wii remake(considering I haven't even played it, only watched it), but here we are. Now I wanna talk Phantasy Reverie Series. Honestly, I'm disappointed. I see you made a video on Phantasy Reverie Series as well, so I guess I'll go check that one out later and see if we're on the same page. Door to Phantomile is simply too plagued by the Wii remake blood. A few nice changes were made, but it just lacks the charm of the original for me and maintains much of the stilted clunkiness of the Wii remake. It also got rid of the Wii remake's unique features, and I don't know if that's better or worse. Seriously unfortunate. Lunatea's Veil is... better. There's not as much wrong with it really, but I do have one major complaint. I hate the artstyle. I haven't even played the PS2 version, but I just adore its cel-shaded artstyle so much. All of that was lost in translation since they wanted so hard to unify the game with Door to Phantomile... a remake plagued by Wii blood. Lunatea's Veil got lightly Wii remakified and that just makes me upset. I honestly would have sooner taken upscaled ports of the original versions of each game. Still, I think I'm glad I got it since it was my first time experiencing Lunatea's Veil, it means more hope for Klonoa's future, and I even got it on sale. There is also no excuse to not have the other Klonoa games together in a collection, at the very least the already English-translated GBA duology. My God, I had so much more to say than I thought I would have had. I don't even have a nostalgic connection to Klonoa. I only played the first game during the first half of 2021, expanded my experience to the rest of the platformers up to now(I still have to get around to Legendary Star Medal, Beach Volleyball, and I guess the Wii remake too at some point), and absolutely fell in love with the series. I just hope I get to see Klonoa 3 some time soon.

now that i think about it the graphics do look a lot like donkey kong barrel blast 💀

I didnt even know Klonoa could actually SPEAK english. Is this whole game in English?? The only thing i remember him even saying was total gibberish 💀

I hate the wii remake so... thanks for the video. Klonoa reverie series is a remake of the de wii one TnT I'm going to download the emulator once again :,)

It's not a bad remake the game is still great and that is why it sells on ebay for £60+. I love the blurred backgrounds and the water effects are amazing. If I can fault the game the save points are too far apart on some levels making it frustrating at times when you die. The music is so magical.

I can't listen to this video because all I hear is saliva.

A bad remake that even makes the cutscenes look worse of a series that were so underrated, so I am probably going to buy it.

It was serviceable but the English voice is just cursed. I guess I didn't see all the flaws as I was enjoying a game I hadn't seen in a while. Still those are fair critiques, although I liked the open red jacket as it reminded me of his red collar. Still the skins were a nice addition although I would've liked more. Although I distinctly remember Joka having white teeth and not red. Maybe it was something changed in the PAL version.

6:21 I wanna know where you found this image

The thing that irks me most about the remakes are the cutscenes. The FMV from the original really nailed the visual and emotional impact. (The Moon Kingdom rising out of the ground truly felt like the beginning of the apocalypse in the original.) I didn't quite have the same feelings with the in game cutscenes in the remakes.

I finished Klonoa 1 on the Phantasy Reverie series, it shows this was based on the Wii version, the stiff animations really ruin many cutscenes including the ending, that being said after going through that i forced myself to watch the wii ending, i could never get past the forst line of dialogue, too much cringe And boy, the wii version is so much worse, specially with the english dub, Phantasy Reverie is FAR FAR from perfect but atleast the models capture the spirit of the original and i dont have to deal with that english dub Its not all bad tough, i think Klonoa 2 transitioned very well in the Phantasy Reverie series, sure the lighting is much simpler, but i honestly prefer how the game looks now, for the most part, Volk inferno looks worse since its almost identical to the first version of the level, while in the original the level is first presented in daytime, while the second time around the level is set at night, iluminated by the burning city

Loving this video so far but I have to say please in future lay off the sudden loud shit, scares the hell out of me when watching with headphones.

I actually really enjoyed this game, but I think I do see the problems with it.

I wanted to come back to say that I I'm disappointed in how Phantasy reverie just follows the WiiMake's example and also squanders and cheapens the ending's impact. I don't think I'll be able to get over that. The only good thing about that ending is the fact that Hewpoe's Model isn't as ugly as the WiiMake one.

I grew up playing the wii version but I can understand your points I still love the wii remake for introducing me to this gem.

Yeah. It IS a bad remake and the original Door to Phantomile is still superior (even to Phantasy Reverie) But I'm still glad it exists and I'm still glad I own it. I mean, if all of it leads to an eventual Klonoa 3, I'll be thankful. I love Klonoa and this franchise deserves better.

At least the game is on the switch, and better

klonoa as on ps4 know

Ha i see this only on youtube RU-vid is only place that say stuff like this

If I'm to be honest, Phantasy Reverie doesn't do as much justice either. It's atleast a better attempt to be a faithful remake, but it's still just as cheap looking.

It's pronounced Baladium

It's pronounced Phantomilian

Its better than the switch one

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Can't agree with the FMVs being the best on the entire console. FFIX blows it out of the water.

lmao

you can MOD your wii so you can EMULATE ps1 games

They made Lephise fisheyed and cross eyed 😵

KPRS is actually a worse port as the music timing is cut off abruptly by automatic cutscenes at certain parts, mostly notably when Huepoe changes shape at the end, and also the ending cutscnee was made even worse. Even less sky effects now, no sun flare as the sad final song of rebirth swells in the sky, in fact the dark clouds from the nightmare opening in the sky and the flash of light to absorb at the ending also has been removed along with other sky effects. This is actually worse than the Wii in totality. It is the Wii Version with less graphical effects, Uprezzed.

that is worst game than Sonic 06

Welp. The Klonoa 2 remake is out, and it's REAL bad. They tried to scrub all that wonderful atmosphere and originality as much as they could. Thankfully, it's so good that it shines through, but the remake is still comparitively sterile and lifeless. It's inferior to the original in almost every way.