KMS Graf Spee - Raiding The South Atlantic

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Apologies for the delay, was not feeling well.
Admiral Graf Spee, the third and final of the Panzerschiffe, is the topic of today's video. The most famous of the bunch, even if the shortest lived, she spent her career raiding in the South Atlantic and around Africa. Her story ended with a battle not that far away from where her namesake perished, against the same enemy.
There's a certain level of irony, in that.

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@edwardpate6128 Год назад

While in the US Navy I had the opportunity to see the wreck of the Graf Spee. In 1982 my ship USS Preble DDG-46 was participating in UNITAS XXIII and we steamed within a couple of hundred yards of her entering and leaving Montevideo. At that time a lot of the superstructure was still sticking above the waterline.

@alephalon7849 Год назад

It feels like Graf Spee's fate was sealed the moment the Kriegsmarine named her such, down to her captain ending with a tragic fate like her namesake.

@daviddrake9135 Год назад

Ahh yes good ol 50-60’s war films where m4 Sherman’s where fighting m48 pattons

@darrensmith6999 Год назад

Modern looking ship shame about Capt Langsdorf he seemed to be a honourable man.

@ImportantNavalHistory Год назад

The Panzerschiffe's are an exciting topic, especially Admiral Graf Spee. I'd been doing some reading on the ship for some videos I'd been doing and the Battle of the River Plate, the Hunt for the German Pocket Battleship Graf Spee by Dudley Pope, is a great straightforward read and details her commerce raiding mission. Another great read would be the Pocket Battleships of the Deutschland Class Warships of the Kriegsmarine by Gerhard Koop and Klaus-Peter Schmolke, they give some excellent background to the class and detail their wartime careers as well.

@davidrenton Год назад

the other sneaky thing the Brits did was to send out merchant ships every 24hrs as they needed under neutrality a head start , 24 hours, so Graf Spee couldn't leave. It went from the British wanting Graf Spee to leave, then wanting it to stay for reinforcements to arrive. As a Brit , i have immense respect for Captain Langsdorff, he fought and died with honour

@nickdanger3802 Год назад

December 1939 Graf Spee forced out of neutral port. April 1941 British warships repaired and upgraded virtually free under Lend Lease in yards in the "neutral" United States.

@rutabagasteu Год назад

You might look up 'Cash and Carry ' by FDR. He made a speech about any nation could come to the US for repairs, fuel. But from wat I've read, everyone knew back then that if the AXIS sent ships there, the Royal Navy would have attacked them. This was prior to Pearl Harbor. Probably in the 1930s.

@jotabe1984 Год назад

@@rutabagasteu this was during european wartime. Of course this was a british oriented politics. Germany during WW1 managed to pass some specially made commerce U-Boots to USA for trade before 1917. By WW2 if germany would have dare to do the same, the British might had been waiting for the submarine at the port's exit since day 1

@jonathanbaron-crangle5093 Год назад

@@jotabe1984 Don't forget for RN subs to loiter off the US East Coast, that in itself would have been a hell of a feat. As an example, the U-class RN submarines built in '36 onwards had a range 1/2 that of their opposition. In short, RN submarines weren't capable of operating off the US East Coast due to a lack of range.

@nickdanger3802 9 месяцев назад

@@rutabagasteu Lend Lease approved March 1941. "Over the whole period from March 1941 to September 1945, the balance in favour of the United States in the mutual aid books24 was in round terms about $21,000 millions. But by the settlement of 1945 Britain was required to pay no more than $650 millions, or £162 millions sterling." page 547 Hyperwar British War Economy

@rutabagasteu 9 месяцев назад

@@nickdanger3802 cash and carry happened before Lend Lease.

@bkjeong4302 Год назад

The irony is that Exeter would eventually be sunk by the Myokos, one of which met Graf Spee at the coronation review in 1937.

@jonathanbaron-crangle5093 Год назад

Myoko-class was way beyond what Exeter could've taken on 1 vs 1.

@Brock_Landers Год назад

Oh yeah! I loved the movie Battle of the River Plate.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Год назад

It is a shame that Captain Langsdorf committed suicide. He wasn't a Nazi, he was a gentleman..

@austinblack7991 Год назад

But why did he commit suicide?

@PsychicalTraumaPL Год назад

Actually, he was a nazi...And a vivid one as well. That famous picture from the funeral of the members of the crew, He saluted, not like everyone else, because that was still the official code of conduct is such situations at the time. This wasn't changed till later on.

@PsychicalTraumaPL Год назад

@@austinblack7991he did this, cause it was considered as the honourable way out of the situations like the one he was in, at least in Germany. And it was consider as such long before 1930's there.

@hardcasekara6409 9 месяцев назад

@@PsychicalTraumaPL wasn't it also done in order to protect his family that was still in Germany and would have proably suffered had he not done so?

@PsychicalTraumaPL 9 месяцев назад

@@hardcasekara6409 you're thinking about Rommel here Mate 😉

@BobSmith-dk8nw Год назад

Aircraft made Commerce Raiding problematic. It's one of those things - where if the Germans had gotten their whole fleet together they could have given a decent account of themselves - but - they never did it. They committed their surface ships piecemeal, in driblets a few at a time - so that they were always sailing into situations where they were outnumbered. They also committed their capital ships without destroyer escorts. And they never finished their aircraft carrier. Prior to WWI - the British had a Naval Policy that they would not only have the largest fleet in the world - but - that they would have at least as many ships ad the #2 and #3 Navies combined. By the time of WWII - that was long, long past. Of course - when the Germans went to war with the USA ... they were pretty much doomed on matte what they did. .

@73Trident Год назад

Good job . You are starting to get a good following.

@konraddax3659 Год назад

Hey I love your videos they are just so interesting!

@robertonavarro7713 Год назад

Was Graf Spee a pocket battleship or a heavy cruiser? The picture in the video showed that there was nothing mini or pocket size about the ship as it looked huge to me.

@skyneahistory2306 Год назад

Panzerschiffe (armored ship) was the initial classification. To represent their weird place in ship design. The Germans eventually reclassified them as heavy cruisers, though they’re admittedly not a traditional heavy cruiser. Pocket battleship is just something the British decided to call them. Not official by any means, though picked up by a lot of people.

@anonymusum Год назад

First of all, Graf Spee didn´t visit Sweden, but Norway instead. Your pic shows her in a Norwegian fjord. Secondly, Spee´s galley was also destroyed in the battle. Thirdly, IMHO Langsdorff made fatal errors in the end. First he should have known that shipping hot spots like the Rio de la Plata Delta are always very dangerous for raiders as there probably are enemy warships. That was a lesson from WW 1. Then he sailed towards the British squadron before he knew what type of ships they were. And thirdly by doing so he took his main advantage of having a longer artillery range. If he had followed his orders he wouldn´t have sailed to the Plata Delta and he wouldn´t have ordered to go into a battle. But ok, in the end he saved a lot of German and British lives and that means that he had a good character.

@ImportantNavalHistory Год назад

She did visit Visby Sweden in 1937 and then Kristiansand Norway later in December of that year.

@jotabe1984 Год назад

man here in 2023 you know exactly what these ships were... in 1939 these 3 smoke columns could have been anything. Spee's top speed was at least 5 knots slower than british cruiser's one, and the detection range of the cruiser was superior to the Spee's 11 inch guns. A shadowed pocket battleship was useless, and despite having a lot of time to loose the british cruises before reinforcement, thrut is that GS was mission killed anyway. Langsdorff made one huge mistake by not pushing the british cruisers to the limit. Sinking these 3 ships would have represented at least a somehow "even result" and a tactical victory, despite that strategically it was a german defeat anyway

@keithplymale2374 Год назад

Avalanche Press not only did a game that includes the Graf Spee in it but at one point Avalon Hill did a variant of the Bismarck game for that cruise as well. Avalanche Press also did a variant that includes several of the alternatives the Reichsmarine looked while designing the class originally.