His strikes with his poleaxe and punches hit like a truck. I had some descend moments in grappling too, but his size, weight and power in combination with good instincts and technic gave him the dominance in the end!
Yeah, his skill with the pollaxe weren't quite as good as his opponent's, but size is a massive advantage in grappling. Being heavier makes you harder to move and strength plays an even bigger factor on the ground than it does when standing. His opponent made a mistake in taking him to the ground without a clearer opportunity to win that exchange.
When your opponent is bigger and stronger, technique becomes even more important. It does mean that some throws may be entirely off the table or that others become more available, but the end result is the same. The margin for error is reduced, so technique is even more important because you can't cheat it with strength. Even with perfect technique, you have to have a good set-up. A good throw does nothing for you if they can see it coming. The bigger and stronger you are, the more you can just force bad techniques to work. This has been my experience being much smaller than virtually ALL American fighters.
Yeah.. people say size doesn't matter, but it does. Sure it isn't everything, but a big guy simply gets more chances than a smaller guy. When I practiced Buhurt I was often put up against the biggest guy in the club, we used to divide up according to weight, and he was the heaviest and I was the second heaviest. Problem was, he was still 140 kilos, I was 105 kilos, and he was 25 cm higher than me, and in a terrifyingly good shape for a man of that size. I don't think I've met anyone else at 140 kilos that can run marathons. The difficult part of fighting a much larger guy is.. you can't mess up, but he can. If you mess up once, he'll either get in a good blow that knocks you out, or he'll get you on the ground with him on top. He can mess up multiple times without going down. I get an opening where I could have tripped a smaller guy, but because of his size my otherwise good trip attempt still failed. It doesn't mean he'll automatically win, but your technique has to not only be better, but significantly better.
dont forget the added element of off balancing your opponent or “kuzushi” in judo. throws dont happen in a vacuum. your opponent needs to be in the correct body position and state of gravity to be able to be thrown in the first place.
Fantastic video. Interesting to see the introduction of daggers into the fight, as we can't use those in Buhurt. The ability to Thrust with a weapon is off limits for us Buhurt fighters as well, so it showed in what the Buhurt fighter utilized. It would be fun to see more of these with other weapon combinations. Maybe sword and shield next?
it really feels like it's a big guy ahah good from you that you tried to fight him even though you knew it would be a tough fight. Indeed, weight and size matter, especially if the dude is a well trained athlete
Awesome scenery! Greatly filmed/captured! I like that do you NOT film it as Hollywood currently does (scene cuts with every hit and show mostly faces from close range) but that you use wide and long scenes without unnecessary cuts! For me: this is pure artism both of movie and fighting techniques!
Im so confused how did you get the knife from him in between seconds 1:13 and 1:14 XD awesome fight. Its amazing how quickly grappling causes fatigue in full plate
It must have been the wind 🤣 The fight was longer and continued for a while but I didn't wanna show both of us for 2 more minutes in ground fighting in the distance 🙄
Ich habe Buhurt zum ersten mal live in Tambach gesehen, und denke seitdem an nichts anderes mehr. Im August geht's zum Probetraining nach Berlin! Kanns kaum erwarten. 🎉 Geiles Video, macht Bock auf mehr. 🔥
Having done a lot of ground fighting with no armor and a little bit of fencing in half armor, I'm very impressed by the fitness you're displaying in combining the two. Question: Do you have agreed upon win conditions, either for the match or just for an exchange? It seems like without that it would just devolve into a slugfest.
The first stabs lands on my shoulder, so I survived. , I'm not sure, if my opponent survives the hits on the chainmail in his neck. But 2 of them lands on his neck plate.
I absolutely love watching these videos! But I struggle a bit with understanding when a fight is over or won - is it just simple submission? The dagger seems important, I mean you pull it out nearly every time lol, but here the dude can tank endless hits till he wrestles you to the ground - is it just for authenticity's sake?
We often don't stop event the fights are realistically over, to see what's coming, so the black knight probably died under my poleaxe/halberd and maybe didn't survive the dagger. But what if he survived all of it or needs more than a minute to bleed out, than he will also kill me. There are videos in the internet of people still fitting with a knife in his brain, or lungs and didn't stop, it's hard to say how many a person can survive and continue fighting. That's why we often don't stop and see what's coming if he didn't die.
Holy crap Niklas hits hard and fast. Dequitem gets thrusting strikes in early, but Niklas counters with heavy blows to the head repeatedly until Dequitem staggers and takes a step back. I'm not sure if those first strikes would penetrate, but using real weapons and intent the follow up ones look like they would for sure. You usually hit first but he hits back twice as hard, in a fight to the deaded if Niklas could weather your fencing getting into his guard the first few times he totally murder you. XD Uh you're the one in the cuirass and Niklas is wearing the brigandine no?
Yes I am in the cuirass and Niklas is in black brigandine. The first strikes would have injure him hard, but don't kill him. The dagger to the neck would have killed him, if it would be OK to thrust under the chainmail. On a big chainmail with the neck plate, the stabs will not go deep enough.
@@dequitem This makes sense to me. Oh thanks for replying too! I like that you continued the fight long enough for both of you to lose by HEMA and Buhurt rules. I've watched a couple of videos with you and Niklas, you've stabbed each other with daggers a lot by now! hahaha
I love the angles you take, making the dagger scenes so realistic, like I look at the real stabbing, I hope you do this on purpose because that would mean your huge attention to details and it means it will get better and better!
I am sorry but this isn't choreographed. It's Sparring footage and the camera is fixed. I zoomed and cropped in later. If I had luck the angles are perfect. If not we will fight again!
It is Hema. But in full armor and with full force. The armored version of hema is called harness fencing. But most harness fencer don't fight realy they often only show the technique in slow motion or without real killing intentions. Hema can be very cool and an brutal martial art / combat style. But you need the right fighters! I hope my channel can show this!
Just love how by the end they actually seem tired like a real fight lol. Always wondered though, in actual life or death combat, how much does adrenaline overcome fatigue?
Poleaxes are for 2 hands and are therefor more precise and handle better. Normaly you didn't need a shield when you are in full European knight armor. And if you are going to close combat a dagger is better because you didn't have the room to swing a hammer, you only need a thrust weapon and the dagger is lighter and therefore easier to handle as well.
What protection do you use to not get hurt from the stabs? Some sort of under armor around the eyes so that it doesnt accidentally slot the visor? Also, where did you get that halberd, it looks great.
The first question can you answer yourself by looking my video about dressing a knight, there I show my full armor. I am the silver knight. In this fight I couldn't stab into the visor of the black knight because he had no eye protection. The halberd is from an ukraine saller. I am not sure if he is still alive and produce the weapons.
Is there just the assumption in these fights that you might actually kill the other person? How do you keep it safe with all the thrusts to the gaps and using hammer weapons at full force? Are the blades blunt?
I would really like to know where Niklas Wehrmann bought that buhurt helmet. That model in particular it's almost impossible to find. Can you ask that for me?
I'm not dogging their tradition, as a knightly descendant myself, however, Knights observed very key traditions. Yes, some knights behaved like animals. My ancestors were not those people, and it does not matter who those ancestors were. Knights were to yield, or to be mercy spiked upon defeat. No knight was ever to set himself up with the taste of blood. Norman knights commonly fought outnumbered ten to one, and won engagements. The Normans did not invent the code of chivalry, but they were strong Christians, being the first Norwegians converts. Naturally they sought to abolish slavery. The Normans adopted the code of Chivalry from Wessex, where it then was exported throughout Europe, thanks be to tales of Norman knights consistently attaining victory against impossible odds, respecting the poor, and behaving honorably, despite the constant war.
"Behaving honourably" Theres several accounts of christian norman knights canninalising saracens during the crusades, as well as massacring christians.
@@deece1482 Yes, because they were starving. However, The Normans also facilitated peace with Muslims elsewhere. They were the first to answer the call, because of their loyalty to the Church. They, however, tended to disapprove of violence between Christians and Muslims, often forming laws guaranteeing equality between the two. You cannot dismiss an entire code of honor over a single incident. Yes, the Normans also participated in the expulsion of the Saxons from England. Because the Saxons were notorious task masters, who engaged in temple prostitution, often involving minors, and the sacrifice thereof, naturally being the last pagans in England, they refused to free their Gaelic slaves. The remaining Saxons were forced to assimilate into the free Gaelic culture. Which the Normans also adopted. The Angles were the first to convert to Christianity, naturally they agreed with the Norman changes, once they saw the results. To dismiss an entire code of honor, over a single incident, despite a textbook of examples upholding that very code, is the pathology of downward thinking itself. I will say, there were plenty of instances were Normans chose death, rather then to succumb to vile instincts.
@@TheOakenTundrawolf before the normans came over saxon women were married off at 16 or older. The normans changed that to 12 or even younger in some cases. Not to mention that these "honourable knights" were usually sex pests themselves. These same knights were also responsible for the sacking of constaninople, the massacre of the Cathars, and other horrific war crimes. What about the knights slaughtering christians in the baltics? And doing the same against pagans? Where's the honour there? I admit the code and ideals are great in theory, but were often flat out ignored in practice, no better than a way for them to excuse their heinous actions against others.
"Technique makes little difference if your opponent is stronger and bigger than you, but by no means slower." Ich würde argumentieren, dass diese Aussage nicht zutrifft. Die Technik muss lediglich dem Ziel entsprechen. Und da das Buhurt ja meist damit endet, dass einer der Kontrahenten den Boden berührt, werden Techniken wenig nutzen, die man mangels passender Bewaffnung und Intention nicht nutzen kann. Das Ziel ist ja nicht, mit scharfen Waffen den Gegner schwer zu verletzen. Wozu dann also Techniken, die genau das voraus setzen. Dass das Ringen unzweifelhaft effektiv ist, sieht man aber sehr deutlich.
@@dequitema lot of upper body focus in this particular fight though. Do you train this without armor aswell? Good to know my BJJ can come in handy if i ever get into an armored sword fight😂
@@davidinawe791 I do hema, ringen, olympic fencing, Harnischfechten. My opponent focused my head with heavy strikes, so I had to counter it with staying high.
