I've got a set, crimping capabilities are poor, cutters are ok, but needs more effort than my ck's, it's a handy tool if you want a light kit bag, but much prefer individual tools that are designed for one task and do it flawlessly... they come close, but not close enough for me... but time will tell
Yes I have got them lads but they still don’t replace my side cutters for stripping cables in the back boxes but they are still a really good bit of kit 👍 and great video lads
Most used tool in my bag, cutters are exellent for cutting and stripping tails, the crimping funtion isnt great and by no means a replacement for a good ratchet crimp but its perfect to fit in your pocket for those little repair jobs
Been using these for nearly a year now. Fantastic for 2nd fix, brilliant knipex quality. Use the crimp feature only if no other crimper is available, I use a dedicated square box crimper instead, but it's fine. Also the flat end on the nose is great for pulling cable or wires without damaging insulation. The reamer part is also great for deburring holes in junction boxes, or where a hole needs enlarging slightly.. Couldn't be without it now. Recommended 👍
Bought a pair of these as they are 😍, however I still find myself using my side cutters for almost everything cable related on second fix. Over the years I've perfected stripping cables, even doubling over (without damaging) the conductor terminations. Still, another great tool by Knipex even if a little pricy.
I have a set and have found them useful although they do have their limitations especially in tight areas where the plier end can catch other cables if using the cutters.
I use mine everyday in a maintenance role for the MOD and they are the most used tool in my tote bag, as others have said they are not great for taking the outer pvc off t&e but that’s it’s only downside which I can live with. I prefer these compared to my knipex ergostrip. Couldn’t rate them highly enough.
Сила привычки! Использую KNIPEX KN-02 06 180 в полном восторге. Эти взял в руки и что-то сразу не зашло, может и стоит попривыкнуть, ведь человек- скотина!, ко всему привыкает!
Ive had a set of these for 2 years, to be honest I don’t use them much. I find the pliers a bit too chunky at the end, making them clumsy when terminating inside the consumer unit in say a crowded earth/neutral bar, it is difficult to pick out individual wires. Also i find the length (from the nose to the cutting shears) too long, again making them difficult to use in tight spaces or in say a consumer units, as you need quite a bit of clearance from the cable you are cutting to the back of the accessory. Overall I was disappointed as they were £50, and I am generally a big knipex fan.
I bought mine after Jordan from Artisan Electrics praised his so much and I'm quite happy! The first task was pulling a house's worth of singles in two days and instead of a handfull of tools I only needed one, sometimes two (Stanley knife for cutting the flexi con flush with the boxes) instead of a whole handfull. Granted, you can strip 1.5 and 2.5 with side cutters but even with lots of practice you risk damaging the conductor and for twisting the wires together and attaching them to the draw string you still need pliers. Haven't tried the crimping tool yet. Of course automatic strippers work even better but they're another bit of kit you need to drag around so I prefer the Knipex. Side cutters only for cutting in tight spots where the installation pliers won't reach.
They are awkward to use, the crimpers have no leverage, and in general, not great. There are rare occasions where they can be handy though, more for their needle nose like jaws. But the Knipex 9511165 shears are bloody awesome. Only amateurs use side cutters.
Не согласен, более универсальный и надёжно обжимающий инструмент Кримпер Knipex KN-9778180. Не портит нейлоновые изолированные наконечники, а обжимает надёжнее автоматических.
I'm interested in buying a set of these or similar style as my go to are nws side cutters. How does it cope with stripping cable inside boxes rather than just loose cable
I brought a pair of the spring loaded pliers, I was a bit sceptical first but now find they are brilliant especially with fitting storage heaters as with the flex cables they are easy to cut and fitting the 1.5 to 2.5mm ferrules with getting another tool out which I'd actually why I brought them in the first place. Plus with doubling the ends over they work well. I find the long nose bit at the end is handy for removing the main earth on consumer units for Ze/Zds tests were it's a bit tight. I haven't tried cutting mains tails yet with them.
The American version is horrible. I swear Knipex took the metric version and only changed the markings to 12 and 14. I was able to make mine useable by grinding the teeth down so that they would close just a little bit further. Now I don't have to fight with every wire I strip
Bullshit you cant quickly strip cable with those. Not as quick as me with my CK cable cutters and then if I need to double it over then I use my long nose Knipex pliers. If its a day work maybe it will work out but not when you are on price
Got a pair of those chrome plated insulated handles pliers, wont be returning them anytime soon. For me this one pair of pliers replaces most of the electrical pliers in my toolbox/belt, usually a product that can do multipule things cant do them as well but for the work i do with them (electrician) it functions equally if not better than most of our induvidual pliers. I also love that the handle is not too long, so you dont have to move the handles as much to get the jaws open far enough, it does not fatigue my hands. That with the fact that it is lightweight and has a pretty slim side profile makes it an incredible tool for me. A pair of pliers is a basic and very old tool concept but this pair has all the technology and engineering of modern times. Yes it is expensive but you get 150% what you pay for.
I prefer them excellent tool from knipex but I have so many other knipex, Klein, Irwin and my old 16year old CK cutters I like them a lot the nice thing about the CK is that they can cut screws to size for sockets however not much use for that in US given most screws are non-metric I have a pair of Klein’s for those. Klein also do a socket style flat cable stripper which I think you only get in USA. However I can do all of this with my electricians knife from Klein which I still use.
I have one of these in my toolbox. I call it the worlds best but worst tool. Its not nearly as good as an dedicated tool in any of the things it can do. But instead of having 2-4 pliers in your pocket, one is enough. Which makes it the best, but worst ^^. Here in Sweden, basically all electricians will have an plier that's called cc22 in his pocket. Its both a cable shear and stripper, once you're used to it its hard to beat! So I mainly use this and a knipex bent long nose plier.
Yeah I use the same, in England they are the CK 160mm cable cutters. Can't go wrong with a pair of them and snipe nose pliers, for doubling and pulling cables about in tight spaces.
@@JackdiyGarden when I Google ck 160 cable cutter I get similar results as the one we call "cc 22 kabel sax". Some look bigger, but I also see similar. Here in Sweden we mainly use 1.5 stranded in pipe/tube. And 3 or 5x1.5 solid when not in pipe. For these cables this cutter is perfect. When you get up to 5x2.5 it start getting a bit to small, but still works. Since you have 230V 50hz in UK, as we do in Sweden. I assume its similar gauge cables you use as we do?
@@JackdiyGarden Are you also using gardening pruners? Felco nr2 is the go to tool here in Sweden when cutting 16-25mm pipe/tube or those plastic cable hider/concealer. Also great for getting a perfect cut on zip ties! 😁 So much faster then using a saw!
As a long nosed pliers its good, regular pliers, its poor as the contact area is not enough. The crimper function is not sufficient for bootlace ferrules. The cutting shears is very good
I have the both 13 96 200 & 13 88 8 (yes BOTH because Gerald Ford made metrification voluntary 🤨) The only thing that I have an issue with is when doing residential or service work where Merrets (wire nuts) are used is the only real time that it falls down on the job, so I use my Felo (NWS) lineman‘s pliers in those cases.
I had a pair best tool till i lost it!! Was twice as expensive to replace so decided not to buy again. The one i had was spring loaded makes me want another
I do temporary systems mostly so my go to is a set of good cutters and the knipex ergostrip for working H07 type cable, I probably wouldn't get a set of these any time soon due having other tools but the action of those shears looked effortless. A request for the Q & A series: In BS761 Table 4Ab, page 383; states two different values for the maximum permissible voltage drop for Lighting and Other Uses. I'm curious as to why there isn't just a singular value for all applications. I've searched online and asked a few people including a NAPIT instructor but I haven't found a clear answer. My theory is for efficiency reasons, with lighting being on a lot of the time especially in commercial and industrial settings.
I have a pair of these and being honest I don't really use them, I think there's more negatives than positives with them. I find the pliers too thin and flex, you can't really use them as side cutters as you can't get them in the box to cut the cable sheath tight, sometimes they can be too wide to use as long nose pliers. On the plus side they will cut 25mm tails easily, better that the £50 klien cable shears I bought that are rubbish.
Unfortunately in Australia we twist our cables together if you have more than one conductor, which is near impossible with the long nose. Outside of that, these pliers are awesome.
Простые скрутки запрещены практически повсеместно, можно со сваркой, пайка имеет ограничения, гильзами опрессовывать прямые концы без скручивания, ваго быстро, удобно, но дорого. Вывод- лучше всего сварка, самое надёжное не разборное соединение, прекрасно объединяет медь с алюминием, кончики алюминия должны быть немного длиннее медных из-за лёгкоплавкости, сверху клеевая термоусадка для предотвращения электрохимической коррозии, по моим наблюдениям она и так не возможна из-за отсутствия разности потенциалов, ввиду образования биметаллической пары с нулевым переходным сопротивлением. Шарик на конце хрупкий и необходима предварительная скрутка для избежания напряжения проводников
Yeah I've got a pair of these... Use them almost every day, great for cutting cables when first fixing, second fixing and also find them good for metal conduit - deburring the ends, and even tightening the couplers (to a certain extent) 👍
Love these. I mentioned I use these in the comments for the wiha lift up. My 2 tools of choice which I always carry. Wiha lift up and these. The only thing it can't do is cut open cable ties like a normal side cutter as its got the pliers at the top. I mostly maintenance so they are very useful. I have the spring open version but the hold closed tab fell of. I would just by the regular version next time. Lifetime guarantee means it was replaced but with the same one so I'm guessing it's going to happen again
This is the best Tool to have even when cutting main Meter tails, surprised how sharp it actually it. All in one tool to have in the tool bag. Its a must. Cheers
@@nw5835 Spring loaded open up automatically, so you don't need to open them and you only need to perform the closing action (cutting, stripping or crimping). Also there's a lock, which prevents the pliers from opening up accidentially in your pocket. But this only impacts the cable shears, with the pliers locked you can still use the stripper and the crimper. These are the differences, apart from that they're identical.
@@nw5835 That's the official Knipex video, including the correct pronounciation of Knipex 😜 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PhG5QbcITms.html
@@nw5835 I've also got the spring loaded version but in my case the tab that keeps the pliers closed fell off and then the pliers always stayed open. Very annoying but lifetime warranty so it was replaced
Swapped over after seeing a couple people use them, makes life up a ladder or on steps 2nd fixing so much easier. Less tools in my pockets working at height is always a plus.
Knipex do a tethered tools version (Search Knipex Tethered Tools) that have part of the handles where you can clip or thread a tether on if you are doing a lot of working at height.
Can see the appeal! I usually use the Draper expert ones. Fairly similar except without the pliers and the cutters are just normal side cutters. But you can strip 1.5 and 2.5 and crimp. Also can shear screws and also a wire looper. Has a flat cutter right at the end so you can for example cut of cable ties straight and tight.
Oh, and, as another poster said, the spring loaded 200mm version, with the belt hook. Model 13 96 200T, which I got from Amazon on offer at about £44 delivered. I have big hands, it fits very nicely.
I bought a pair after Jordan from Artisan reviewed them, they're OK but the only downside for 2nd fix is that you can't get right into a backbox to cut away the unused sheath, maybe if the shearer was closer to the end they would work for me? I mainly use the Knipex sidecutters with the 2 strippers inside
Despite what the Knipex literature shows, that crimping function is for the solid type of ferrules and lugs. An example would be crimping earths together or a lug for an earth. Boot lace ferrules need a special crimper.
For 2nd fix they’re a nightmare. I can understand using them for a maintenance style position, couple of drivers and these in your pockets. But when your cutting your cores and stripping the cores you can’t see exactly where your stripping, unlike a pair of CK side cutters with the 1.5/2.5 holes in which are perfect, see where you cut, and strip good.
@@efixx что это за ответ? Неаргументированное соглашательство неконструктивно! Спорьте, боритесь или соглашайтесь с критикой и признавайте поражение, а не отмахивайтесь от комара.