Why? He is one of the few leaders confrnting the rotten hegemony of the US and their allies. World needs a change. World needs a new multipolar! Deal with it.
Charafeddine Moi Cherie : Botski's never reply back brainiac. I don't just do DW. I do CNN/MSNBC/BBC/CBC/SKY NEWS/WION/Fox Faux News & a few others, thank you!
If Russia wants to end the war, then all they have to do is to leave Ukraine. If it wants to put an end to the dying, then leave. It's that simple. But as long as Putin's hordes keep killing people, then the Ukrainians will resist in self defense, as they have every right to do.
Wallowing in victimhood is second nature to Russia. In their mind, Napoleon's 210-year old foray into Moscow is proof positive that everyone's out to get them. People have been committed for less severe forms of paranoia.
Agreed but putin is so unstable he threatened nuclear war for so many reasons since this war started. If we did what he wanted we would give him the baltics Poland anything to prevent nuclear war . We have to call his bluff at somepoint.
@@AmericanPatriotsLoveTrump They don't. This people cheering for their own demise. They think Russia will easily go down with out bringing the rest with her.
As a Swede, I don't want to live next to the world's most whiny self-victimizing, regressive manchild dictator who I would gladly and without regret try to kill with my bare hands if I ever got the chance, because I am tired after decades of having Putin The Half-Monkey tell my country what it should do.
“The world is in more peril from those who tolerate evil or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.” -Dr. Albert Einstein, March 30 1953
I feel in the US this war might be alien but we are as much a part of it with of consumption patterns. The military, although not active in the war, has been impacted by it and the aggressor. There's a lot can be done by individuals, companies and the government.
the evil here is the agressor. People that encourage the Russia's attack on Ukraine are more peril to the world peace than the Russian soldiers fighting the war
If you thought with a critical mindset you'd understand rus must act to defend itself... nato is predominantly influenced by the EU who from their conception openly desires a one world gov with them at the helm thus a Serious security risk to every nation not just Rus... nato (eu) pathetic policies help lead to the rawanda gen and countless other atrocities while thinking they are doing good for ppl... so who is the psychopathic dictators as the three ppl here all want to control the world for their personal desires? Nato and it's supporters openly state they want to decide ukr fate not the ukr ppl
@@antimimoniakos no one wants anything to do with russia. All NATO countries made the choice to go west, not east. Because they knew what avaited them Shut russia out. Doors closed. Enjoy the cabbage soup
NATO Threatening Russia……?? Seriously! NATO is a defensive alliance, end of story. As we can clearly see, a country which is not a part of this alliance is at risk. Let’s do a story on, “ Is Russia a threat to sovereign nations which are not a part of the NATO Alliance “
Russia has always threatened Spain, Portugal and especially Iceland. It is understandable why these countries want to defend themselves against Russia by joining an anti-Russian alliance.
@@Alanom2007 asians and africans understand nato is a defensive alliance i asked. My wife is chinese and her brother is high up in the government and i work with many africans. Only a fool would think otherwise.
Ukraine need to negotiate now 🤣🤣🤣 NOW UKRAINE LEARN GOOD LESSION WESTERNS ARE BACKSTABBER NEVER BELIEVE ON USA USA did the same with Pakistan in 1971 indo pak war After seeing the soviet warships USA runs away 😂😂😂 People of Ukraine should learn the lession from now .just stay away from superpowers We already took the taste of colonialism Ukrainians should made their countries economically stable or independent
They are not fighting for Europe or the EU or anyone but for their homeland and their lives. You would do the same or will do if faced with the same situation.
@@scottyd3138 Mine was a reaction to the opening statement by the young woman sitting to left of the host speaker. But I fully recognize the benefit to the nations for which we should be thankful. There is some need and urgence that this war be won. Unfortunately that can not be achieved fighting defensively.
True but they also provoked this incident forcing rus to finally act defensively and preemptively against nato encroachment... ukr has a right to fight but so does rus... Also census reports show only half of ukr ppl claimed they would fight for their country... ukr ppl had months to leave conflict areas but many refused and were used as human shields in hopes enough die that the west gives mil aid... ukr is a mini rus who brought this conflict on themselves thus I don't know why ppl support it
Rus gave up buffer nations in a peace agreement that nato would dissolve and not encroach any further but as expected nato not only refused but has been ever encroaching closer to Rus thus able to hold a knife to rus throat and saying do as I say or else... nato and ukr caused this conflict over decades of forcing Russia to finally act as it should as nato must be put in check
Yeah Sweden and Finland. You are important and an asset to every one of us in freedom. I am more than sure NATO will welcome you with open arms. I know l will
How so? Nato and ukr caused this conflict over decades of forcing Russia to finally act to defend its economy and security... a nato Ukr, fin, and swe is like holding a knife to rus throat and saying do as I say or else; so who is the the threatening party? Fact is there is no side to root for as all players are bad
So China will militarize Solomon Islands with its new security pact and everything is fine right ? Cuba missile crisis never happened. Us didn’t threaten to invade Solomon island 3 weeks ago
@@jaybelle1909 Please just stop that. You are using rapist mentality. You allow yourself to rape a woman because HER short skirt provokes you. Using that logic anyone could punch your face because your stupidity provokes them.
@@jaybelle1909 Yeah just like the knife being kept to rus throat when the baltic countries joined Nato almost 20 years ago. What a threat they have been. Simply kept them from getting bombed that's all. I don't agree with alot of things the US does but to blame this on the US is just ignorant
Well done, Vlad! Not only has the length of your border with NATO almost doubled, but NATO is more united than ever before. At 9:03 in the video, it is stated that this huge mistake was predicted by Russian analysts - but of course, if any of them had told you that you were making a huge mistake, they would have wound up in a Siberian jail for many years. By making it impossible for any of your advisers to give you news that was contrary to what you wanted to hear, you made it so that you are unable to respond to what is happening on the battlefield - because most of it is contrary to what you want to hear. In other words, you made yourself incompetent. Or to put it another way, you walked straight into the dictator trap.
Yes, all that macho effort and ra-ra nationalism just achieved a lot of casualties and waste, but also sanctions at home and exclusion from the wider world. Well done Vlad .
I think it is really interesting to listen to people talking to each other who aren't original English speakers. Especially since they are from different languages but are all united by the English language.
on it's on side, there are lots of countries outside of europe and america that didn't pick anyside. to be honest, we just don't care about the war at all.
by denying Sweden & Finland access to NATO, the Turkish president has made it known which side it is on...as it comes out with unverifiable claims of rogue forces within each of these countries.
TURKEY IS NOT ON EUROPE. I do not even understand why they are in NATO. Historically Turkey has been the enemy of Europe. Erdogan is a TYRANT. TURKEY SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN NATO....LET ALONE MAKE DECISIONS FOR EUROPE. NATO SHOULD PUSH TURKEY OUT. OUT OUT OUT OF NATO.
Are these debates rehearsed? If all of you agree on points, why even have a panel? Why not just have the host tells us what he thinks? I think we as non-NATO and non-Russian we would like to hear both sides. Otherwise go and get a person who is against nato expansionism for us to hear their views. You guys are starting to think we are dumb.
Just as many dumbas comments here. Nato has been destructive to many nations of the world. They cross Russia red line. Europe with its aging population cannot defeat Russia on the battlefield. Feel sorry for the ordinary Ukrainians who are dying bcos of a comedian president. America don't even have baby formulas, while they gave Ukraine 40 billion.
"This conflict is all about RUSSIA doesnt want Ukraine to be independent state witch is moving west" Lets go this is WHAT IS THIS WAR ALL ABOUT from PUTINS perspective.
Independent? If Russia would to appoint judges and parliament members in Mexico, and push for military cooperation against the US, would it still be considered independent?
Considering russia means "not being able to do whatever they want" by "threatened", then yes. As for "threatened" as in "attacking them militarily", I don't really see why that would happen. NATO, or anyone for that matter, never attacked russia during the last decades and I don't think the way Europe dealt with russia for the last 20 or 30 years signals anyone was even thinking about attacking russia. But that's just my non-specialized opinion of course.
You don't know how nato operates... a nato ukr, fin, and swe is like holding a knife to rus throat and saying do as I say or else; nato could decapitate Rus any moment it wants for any reason; decapitation vital life supply lines is an act of war but with nato (EU) pathetic policies they would see rus as the instigator... Rus gave up buffer nations in a peace agreement that nato would dissolve and not encroach any further but as expected nato not only refused but has been ever encroaching closer to Rus and able to be at its throat... it's like Cuban missile crisis along with subs and ships off your coast ready at a moments notice to cut you off and destroying your nation
I don't look forward the increased threat this poses to existing NATO countries from Russia, but I am happy to have the Swedes and Fins in our alliance. Finland especially is an impressive country that punches FAR above its weight.
Ukraine absolutely needs a marshal type plan. Rebuild them like the west did with Japan and west Germany. No intrest payments, no charge, just get it done for the sake of stability and ukranians will likely appreciate and align closer to the west.
@@wom_Bat Agreed. Also one of Putin's nightmares is for his people who have close ties with Ukraine to see a prosperous, free, democratic Ukraine right on their border.
@@wom_Bat EU is not even funding enough now. Rebuilding is just a dream. US gave 56 billion USD while EU gave just 7 billion Euro in Loan. This is definitely not helping especially not much real help from Germany in spite of words and promises.
@@wom_Bat you live in a fantasy world. The EU have fast tracked €9bn in LOANS to Ukraine this week because they are bankrupt and can't pay the soldiers or Pensions.
Invading and toppling russia yo implement a puppet regime would also be "safe" that's how they see it who can guarantee nato won't it is nearing Russia’s doorstep
@@TommyTCGT Russia also attacked in Syria, Georgia, and Libya, not to mention Ukraine. Friendly defense exercise? The intervention against Serbia was also internationally recognized and permitted by the United Nations after the Srebrenica massacre. Are you not aware of the trials that took place at the International Criminal Court? Or the war criminal who drank poison in court after admitting his guilt? Even Russia and China attended that trial, recognizing the crimes committed in Bosnia.
@@Thor.Jorgensen I hope we see more RuZZian generals and other members of the RuZZian military in the Hauge soon. Rapists and murderers have no place in the modern world.
It does, but it isn't our fault debating about what we did 20 years ago while Putin followed up with Chechnya is a hottopic for Russia to try rally for WW3. When diplomatics are outright refused, you don't make concessions
The main reason that Russia doesn’t like NATO is because of Yugoslavia in the late 90’s. Russian-backed Serbs were committing full-scale genocide against Albanians, and NATO stepped in to stop the atrocities. Russia’s “feelings” were hurt as a result.
Nato is a DEFENSIVE ORGANISATION, THE CHARTER SAYS THAT, if russia attack their member they will bite back, but they won't start or initiate any war, that is why it is so attractive to many free nations
NATO has certainly threatened Russia's opportunities to invade its neighbors, yes...that much is clear. Holding back Russia's clenched-fist does not make NATO the aggressor.
Allow Sweden and Finland to join NATO, it will continue to ensure peace. I faced the Warsaw Pact forces during the Cold War, with the outcome was made clear to us. Whilst stationed in West Berlin, we had allied forces day, with the UK, US and French displaying our units along 16Juni Strasse. We had the pleasure of having physical interaction with the Russians,. Lots of pushing and shoving.👍😁
How about putting yourself in rus shoes... a nato ukr, fin, and swe is like holding a knife to rus throat and saying do as I say or else. Rus gave up the buffer nations in a peace agreement that nato would dissolve and not encroach any further but as expected nato not only refused but has been ever encroaching closer to Rus thus Rus Must act to defend itself... The only member in nato that honors its agreements is the US why should the US aid two more leaches? Nato is a weak and fragile alliance and the US has been wanting out for a while now and most like will in a few years...
Warsaw pact was created as an answer to NATO, not the other way around. When Warsaw pact disintegrated NATO sayed and then grew rapidly. If NATO is security organization why its expansion makes all of us less secure in Europe?, and now there is a full scale war in Europe over this issue. If NATO is a defensive alliance why it destroyed a dozen of (harmless to itself) nations in recent decades? Why NATO existed when there were no threats, so logically it means that the purpose of its existence was not to deal with a threat, but to push away Russia and establish American sphere of influence over Europe.
Why do you not want Chinese marching into russia? Rf has already good communist. And some one needs to defend the name of socialism and communism against criminalism.
@@SomeOneOneOne oh come on, have a sense of humor please. I realize we're on a German news channel, but it is allowed to laugh. "-ung" is a common German word ending.
@@ericp1139 Only for a little while,' That is, as the 🇷🇺 military is exterminated by their own captured & abandoned weapons, by the Ukrainian forces, As the sanctions take affect, preventing Putin to continue to fund his War Machine! Then Ukraine we'll have every inch of their territory from defeated 🇷🇺
@@kevonlipscomb8732 funny, I can see Russians toting captured Western weapons too. And Russia controls the gas and food, which tend to benefit in an economic war of attrition.
I don't know man. It it seem pretty much in the balance now. Russia has secured Mariupol and is making gains in Donbass but Ukraine is also making gains around Kharkiv. Only time will tell who will win. $40B in extra US aid is going to be help Ukraine's ability to keep fighting.
The longer the war goes on, the heavier the weapon systems will be delivered. We went from "what do we do" to send some MANPADS, to send tanks and heavy artillery, to US pres authorized to send UKR from a huge laundry list via Lend/Lease in 3 months. As NATO takes possession of F35s, where do you think all the F16s and F18s are going to end up? UKR will become a NATO compatible country simply by the weapons systems and training they are receiving. Putin has singlehandedly reinvigorated NATO, caused neutral/nonaligned countries to apply for membership, and revealed the kind and quality of military that sits to the East of NATO.
There is nearly no Russian troops between the current NATO border and St. Petersburg, as they have been moved to fertilize Ukrainian ground. That should give an answer, if Russia actually feels threatened.
NATO is NOT a threat to anyone that RESPECTS it's neighbor. This is the 3rd war Russia has started. Aggression at it's finest. It's why NATO was formed. NATO defends, it doesn't attack. Finland and Sweden are smart to join. They could be next on Putin's list.
Any country is threatened when a foreign army moves close to their border Remember the Cuban missile crisis If China signed an agreement with Canada and put Chinese soldiers on the US border, think the US would not do something about it Maybe Putin has it in his heart to revive the Russian empire but Russia is a declining power and Putin knows this
If Russia attacked Finland and or Sweden, you can almost be sure that they would end up with missiles lobbed back into their own back yard. They know that and that's the deterrent of defensive strength. These two countries would be supported by NATO 100%.
@@joaoMTcoelho LOL. You would prefer to just sit back and let them invade and reek total destruction, like they have in Ukraine ?. Everyone will fight back, otherwise they will steamroll over you. That's what totalitarian communist regimes do. Perhaps you are one of them? A spy ?
Back in the 1990s, whenever I suggested to Germans and other Central Europeans (Czechs, Poles and Hungarians) that EU expansion should include Russia, their reaction was negative to say the least. For this reason, I don't think Russians are solely to blame for their 'isolation' or 'marginalization' in Europe. In a sense, post-Soviet Russia has been denied a roadmap to true integration in Europe. And for that we, as Europeans, are all to blame. This is not to condone Russia's current actions in Ukraine, but there will never be a lasting solution until what is now the EU learns to live (co-exist) with Russia for mutual benefit. I see too many zero-summers in the DW studios and in general in the Western media and among the political elite in Brussels.
Putin reached out several times, even advertised for good cooperation in German language in German parliament. The problem is not Russia, it's the Western arrogance and supremacism! And I say it as a German... I see the general people's mentality and I exactly know this is it! Few even know what real justice and equality means, all are egoistic in the West.
that is because in America if there is no enemy to wary about , then the arms dealers and manufactures will go out of business, next on the list to scare people with is china. what a shame that this world is driven by the greed of bad people.
Nonsense! There was trade with Russia, there was cultural exchange, there was a lot of tourism from and to Russia. In spite of US warnings, the EU even became energy dependent on Russia. And Russia became rich because of this. But instead of using this wealth for its people, it disappeared in the pockets of Putin's friends. Disengaged from reality the Russian top has, fully voluntary, decided to start a war and put Russia in isolation. And the Russian people will suffer once more, seems they never learn!
Very true! I noticed many older Germans , from age 55 or 60 do not speak English and listen only to German news. That is definitely not enough . This interview should be interpreted also in German and must be shown on Germany’s public TV! This panel SHOULD go on Germany‘s public TV .
The UK trained the Ukranian army from 2014 and we armed them from the beginning out of conviction. Germany waited to see how the wind was blowing first. Poor indeed.
I dunno, I’d say having a prejudice against murderers is pretty warranted. If Russia wants a different international reputation, it needs to change its behavior. Because all its doing now is confirming everyone’s worst fears.
Everyone I've heard from the Russian simply parrots the same words as they hear on the news, from the random person on the street to the officials of the government. Word for word, all the same. You hear it once, you just hear the exact same, over and over. And what they are saying is BS.
Absolutely agree with the three panellists, Russia must be decisively and rapidly beaten in Ukraine, not only for the sake of the Ukrainian people but to emphasise and reinforce NATO's military deterrence of Russian aggression. This position is almost universal among people I talk to here in London, UK. Despite Brexit, the feeling here is that if Europe can act effectively together on security we are all much safer than if we each acted independently. I think this is probably now a commonplace amongst all Europeans. The idea of "The West" and what that stands for has become, to some extent, more important to us than the idea of the nation state.
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This is a very good discussion. The journalist and the panel altogether.
unbelievably simplistic. how anyone can say that Russia could not possibly see NATO's expansion as a threat is beyond me. either deliberately misleading or terminally ignorant.
"We are moving at the speed of war." Wise words. The bane of every army across time is speed. Armies can only move so fast and no amount of willpower can change that element.
The thing most “leaders” in power don’t seem to understand is that it isn’t if nato threatens Russia or not which is relevant… the relevant question is if Putin feels threatened by nato and if, then why ? Why is this much more important ? Because the other leader could have hallucinations or lost trust from lies like Iraq weapons of mass destructions…
Well NATO was formed in the first place to counter the Soviet Union which gave way to the Russian Federation. So, it would not be unreasonable for Russia to view NATO as an adversary even though NATO has not been the aggressor.
I worry about the instability of the world food situation with Ukraine imports and crops eliminated ... and the crops are going to be restricted for several years, as is fertilizer. How many of the worlds children are going to die because of putins ego? What's happening to Ukraine is reprehensible, but the effects are far more widespread.
Nato and Ukraine caused this conflict forcing Russia to act not the other way around... rus gave up buffer nations in a peace agreement that nato would dissolve and not encroach any further but as expected nato not only refused but has been ever encroaching closer to Rus able to put a knife to rus throat and saying do as I say or else... this war could've been prevented and could've been stopped at any point if nato said we are going to encroach any further... ukr is a mini rus, it's corrupt, not free, also commits crimes sides from using its ppl as human shields in hopes enough die that the west gives mil aid... The excessive amount of money wasted supporting the corrupt gov of ukr could've been used to help nation produce their own food... fact is nobody care as they just see rus as the bad guy so they want this war to drag on inspite of how many ukr lives are lost in the process
No your wrong Ukraine has nothing to do with the food supply of the world the problem is inflation is caused by governments being greedy and people making money from this situation for example gas companies have made over a 174billion pounds extra profit who owns these companies where does the money go ? Food companies alone made so much more I’ll tell you a little secret you might not know this but 1 company in the world could solve world hunger and still have 90% of their money left. GREED IS THE ISSUE do you think America could cough up 40 billion for Ukraine for free no it’s so they can test new weapons and learn by the war Britain borrowed 400 billion because of the pandemic who started it who makes a profit.lots of questions and no real answers.
The fact is, nato kill civilian in afghan, libya, iraq and syria, but no sanction, europe is quiet. Europe = nato or erope under controled by US. We concluded that you can kill everythink if you stand wit NATO....
@@kfhroe8262 And you know why? To neutralize Ukraine, Finland, Sweden, Georgia and Austria. So Putin could say those countries were a threat to Russia and then NATO had to get involved. That is not how NATO works. It is a defensive organisation; not an agressor like Russia. And next to that it was not even nessicery for Russia as head of the Military alliance of CSTO.
@@feeedom You should get your knowlegde more up to date. Then you would not write this. I am not, for the 50th time explain to a pro Russian what really was going on and what Russia did in several of those countries. All pro Russian commentators have all the same statements. Not a single one is one inch different. That gives me the idea that all of them are indoctrinated with all the same State TV crazy information which for 90 % or more is not complete, the truth or not twisted.
Knocking on Putin’s back door: Is NATO really threatening Russia? | To the Point Sweden and Finland both say they want to abandon decades of neutrality to join the NATO military alliance. The decision comes at a crucial moment in the war in Ukraine. Images of Ukrainian fighters, many horribly wounded, being evacuated from the Azov steel works in Mariupol have gone around the world. In view of Russia’s brutal onslaught on that
This conflict was started by nato expansion thus a serious economy and security risk to Rus as it's like holding a knife to rus throat and saying do as I say or else... funny how everyone condemns rus but not nato when rus gave up buffer nations in a peace agreement that nato would dissolve and not encroach any further but as expected nato not only refused but has been ever encroaching closer to Russia thus forcing its hand... ukr is like a mini rus, it's corrupt, not free, also commits crimes sides from the obvious using its ppl as human shields in effort to gain mil aid... fin and swe actions only solidifies rus justifications for invading
It probably is not but russia could feel very threatened. That is often how large wars often starts one country is afraid of another and feels that it needs to attack.
Have a look at videos of Russian speakers being attacked by Azov thugs (Odessa massacre and Mariupol massacre) in 2014. Watch Graham Phillip's videos and Patrick Lancaster's are enlightening re the behaviour of the other side.
@@cebombatha4596 Exactly. And they seem to have no concept of geopolitics. All emotional rhetoric. No understanding of the 2014 US coup. The Minsk agreements. The 8 year war in Donbass. The Monroe Doctrine. And the Americans openly saying they want to attack Russia. This is a US proxy war.
It is a simplification Sweden has been completely free of war since Napoleon. During the cold war 600 Swedish pilots died during very dangerous drills, protection and reconnoicance missiond (ie. flying only a few meters above the sea). Even very few Swedes knows this.
@@RiDankulous you are aware 600 Swedish pilots dying did not stop the course of the cold war... it could have been 10,000 and it wouldnt have made a difference. The crash of oil prices in the 1980s led to stagnant growth in the USSR and the war in Afghanistan became costly and unpopular. Those were the events that contributed to the collapse of the USSR not 600 Swedish pilots
@@realnapster1522 Again, you're proving that idiocy is alive and well on the internet. No, Nato does not have nuclear weapons. Two Nato members have nuclear weapons. They are not available to the alliance.
I am very happy and proud of Finland and Sweden for joined the NATO airlines Good luck to both of you Finland and Sweden. I am older now but would Love to visit both of the counties in the future.
When NATO deploys missiles to Finland, we can have this discussion. Recently we’ve only seen Russia threatening to forward deploy missiles by changing the Belorussian constitution.
*Nuclear* missles. And not just "wanted" to put them there, but *did* put them there. No problem with all the other missiles and weapons that the USSR had all around the world. And this was in the days before ICBMs. Cuba is only 90 miles from the US. NATO doesn't have nukes. No NATO country is required to take nukes from those countries that do. Few even want them, so they don't get them. Finland and Sweden have already said they don't want them and so they won't have them.
@paper plane Kennedy even tried to get the missiles taken out of Turkey, but Turkey itself wanted them left there. He used the Cuban crisis to do what he wanted on them. Turkey wants nukes there again now.
Wouldn't it be interesting if they included someone with an alternative viewpoint? It's pointless just having a bunch of people all sharing the same view. What's there to discuss then? Before anyone decides this is support for Putin - it's not. We need to show them why their view is wrong, rather than just shouting them down or suppression of their views.
Not necessarily, they are saying Russia is loosing the battle can’t take on any other country is that true. A day back with all the support of the world Ukraine last Mariupol
@North Korea Is Best Korea Yes, that's my point. Debating allows you to consider viewpoints and aspects you never considered. As long as we just keep telling people that they are wrong without engaging in debate - they won't change.
@North Korea Is Best Korea I think that you missed my point. In a debate each side presents their views to convince their opposition that they are right and to prove the opposition are wrong. People with the opposite view to you might feel just as strongly they correct. If you simply tell them they are wrong without engaging them they will not change their views.
@North Korea Is Best KoreaThe difference here is that a large portion of people in the West and the rest of of the world actually either support Putin or are on the fence. They can't just be told by the West that our view is right - because we say so. This attitude to developing nations is what created this distrust of the West in the first place. Your comparison is not valid.
Oh well Finland as a member of Nato being a threat to Russia is kind of missjudging the foreign policies of Finland. I think that even with Finland being a member of Nato it is going to continue as careful as before to interact with Russia and going a pretty long way trying not to provoke or threaten Russia. I think there is not really another country that has such a succesful foreign policy history with Russia alsthough it had been more west than east oriented and following own agendas during the cold war.
wait and see, NATO wants to put MISSILES on russian border in Finland, wait and see.... remember my words........ o wait, they already there........ as well in Estonia, estland, poland, bulgaria, romania.... why? NEver did russia 1 step to invade ANY country, but yes if you keep expanding NATO you will have a WAR.....
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd when they put missiles on the border THEN its a escalation..... look what USA did when the russians put missiles in Cuba, 65 years embargo, people don't even got new cars or break fluid........but when USA put missiles on eVERY border with russia its OK?????
Interestimg discussion, just one thing Finland isn't part of Scandinavia it's a Nordic country. Hearing the host talking about the 2 Scandinavian countries etc makes it seems like he wasn't briefed enough
looking on a MAP ...Denmark is the oddball. Norway, Sweden, Finland are in that Peninsula of land, that is divided into thirds. They are grouped as Scandinavia. On the maps in every atlas. This is the land of the Vikings...that fought each other because they did not understand each others language.
@@bunzeebear2973 Scandinavia - Sweden, Norway, Denmark Nordic countries - Scandinavia + Finland, Iceland, autonomous regions of Åland, Faroe islands and Greenland If you want to include Finland based of geography its called Fennoscandia and also includes part of Russia.. The only vikings to be foumd in Finland settled there, it's not considered a viking country. The Scandinavian languages are mutually intelligible, for the most part. They share a common past Since it's an old term there are several theories and explanations where the word Scandinavia originally came from. Scania was the name used for the area where you originally found the vikings, what is in modern times are the 3 kingdoms. Scandes is the name of the mountain range denoting the border between Norway and Sweden and it connects to Denmark under water. The Nordic countries comes more from a shared past than geography.. Unfortunately travel agencies, media producers etc are muddying the waters in English by ignoring the established definitions, but Finland is never considered part of Scandinavia. Finns are even ethnically distinct from Scandinavians and speak a language that isn't Scandinavian or even Germanic.
How can "ONE" nation block Sweden and Finland from joining. Common sense tells me, each nation votes in NATO and if the major says yes, then they're in.
