In this classic scene, Valene, Gary and Lucy come to an understanding and start to repair their relationship...and go running in the ocean to celebrate a new beginning. Stay tuned to PrimeTimeSuds!
Val and Gary moved to California and Lucy reunited with them in the first season of knots landing why didn't she do it more often though I don't understand.
I couldn't agree more! I can understand within the story why Lucy wouldn't come live with her parents, but KL would've done more with her than Dallas did.
You can assume they did off camera. However Lucy might resent them as she was a rich spoiled brat and the fact that Gary and Val raised them and not her would make her bitter.
In a lot of ways ,I liked gary ....he wasn't living at home with mommy and daddy like his brothers were . He was on his own out of state .however, miss ellie did pay for their house.
I had heard a rumor they tried to get her to guest star in 1992 to come to Val's funeral but she was unavailable. However she was mentioned on that show. Mack offered to try to track her down in Europe and I remember she left Dallas the 2nd time to move to Europe a few years before.
I love Knots Landing ; actors and actresses like Joan Van Ark, Donna Mills, Michele Lee and Ted Shackelford or Gary Ewing and William Devane-I still love and enjoyed all of them and learn more of both Los Angeles-County and that great-state of California, USA too . I still love California, U.S.A also . Leandro Roberts .
I always liked their chemistry. Would have been great to see Lucy go toe-to-toe with Abby. Remember: Lucy grew up with the Ewings. So you KNOW she knew how to throw money around and manipulate with the best of them.
I LOVED This Moment Of Gary,Val And Their Daughter Lucy Running In The Ocean!!! I Remember The Scene Where Lucy Confronted Gary About Not Raising Her,That Her Grandfather Jock Did,Taught Her Her Values Etc. Lucy Really Didn't Belong In Knots Landing Anyway,But She Could've Visited More,But I Guess The Producers Didn't Want Too Many Cross Overs. Still,That Moment With The Three Of Them Frolicking In The Pacific Ocean As A Family Was EPIC!!! 😍🥰🤩😊🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗❤❤❤❤❤🏖🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@draperscott7698 Now That I Think About It,Your Right,Lucy Would've Made A Great Addition To Knots Landing,Renuited With Her Parents Val And Gary,And I Would've Loved To See Her Meet Her Other Grandmother Lillimae!!! 😍🥰🤩😊
Lucy saw that if she lived with Gary & Valene she'd lose the perks of living in Dallas and Southfork. No Evening Meals, Cocktails, Fancy Clothes & Cars. Also keep in mind that Gary told Lucy that he and Valene didn't live off of The Ewing Money and I think that scared her a bit.
Yes, Miss Ellie acknowledged this in Episode Two when it was still a Miniseries. They gave her everything to make up for what they couldn't give her and that was Gary & Valene.
Yes, it's too bad that they couldn't go for Pre-Marital Counselling. She had "everything" handed to her while Mitch had to "Work" for everything he had. Also, did you see the Apartment Mitch lived in while in Med School, it could fit Lucy's Room at Southfork.
laminage exactly and Mitch kept telling Lucy to slow down and think about that but Lucy was too eager to get married in general that she didn't care who she married, she was eager to be loved because of her parents not being there, I liked Mitch, but it wasn't a good match . She would have been better off marrying someone from the same social class.
I wish they had included Lucy in further seasons. She was a character I think that should have been in knots landing as a recurring character, especially after her sister and brother twins were born put supposedly dead and when Val went missing.
I agree that Lucy should have made further appearances on KL, as should other Ewings. (Personally, I would have enjoyed seeing Miss Ellie visiting, since Gary was always said to have been her favorite). Bobby and JR are the only others ones I can remember appearing. I do seem to recall reading that, after the "Bobby's death was all just a dream" business (which also screwed up KL's continuity too, since Gary had been shown mourning his brother, who was, in fact, now alive. and also, one of Val's twins was named Bobby, in his honor), the KL writers decided to not only end having characters cross over, but to also stop even referencing "Dallas" characters and storyline altogether from that point on.
Mary Crosby as Kristin also appeared after Kristin shot J.R. She caused some trouble in the cul-de-sac for one episode. It was obviously a ratings grab to boost Knots ratings. After early season 4, no Dallas character ever appeared on Knots again.
I always thought this was one of Knots Landing best scenes. Unfortunately, they didn’t continue on with the Lucy crossovers after this. TPTB wanted Titlton strictly on Dallas at the time so nothing would ever become of Gary, Val & Lucy storyline.
I remember getting married in a Gunnisax dress like the one Lucy was wearing except mine was blue, a maxi & had laces down the front. Geez I'm getting old. Loved knott's landing & Gary & Valine were my favorite characters.
I don't get why all the seasons are available to streaming services...amazon prime has all the seasons of Dallas... I loved Dallas and Dynasty but with KL it was so different ...when i speak of it just there's this deep deep deep love for the show vs the first two i mentioned
I had heard a rumor they tried to get her to guest star in 1992 to come to Val's funeral but she was unavailable. However she was mentioned on that show. Mack offered to try to track her down in Europe and I remember she left Dallas the 2nd time to move to Europe a few years before.
I remember watching the Short Lived Spinoff of Dynasty called The Colbys and there was Bliss who they tried to be like Lucy Ewing, she was a Poor Little Rich Girl who felt that she didn't measure up to her Family. Monica and Miles were successful Executives and Miles was a Champion Polo Player. Jason ran a Successful Oil Company while Sable ran a Successful Art Gallery.
The Colbys was just a cheap (though very expensively made with BIG names cast in leading roles) knockoff of Dynasty. Even the opening credits mimicked Dynasty’s. Knots Landing, whilst a spin-off of Dallas, was a completely different beast altogether with its original focus being on suburbia, married couples and their relationships and friendships.. stuff ordinary people can relate to. Knots Landing was on air for 14 years with a strong fan base whose love for the show remain intact. The Colbys started with a bang but without a solid premise and grounded characters it quickly fizzled and disappeared into television oblivion.
@@tsutsuji1The Colbys is a fun binge watch, and the acting is pretty good thru most of the cast, but the real reason to watch is for Stephanie Beacham’s work.
@@SouthSideLadyWright remember when Ms Ellie told JR you were born old. What kind of mother says that to their child. Even if he was a conniving backstabbing bastard from the 7th level of Hell.
Lucy wouldn't have fit because originally Knots was not serialized. The episodes were self-contained and the focus was on the four married couples. Lucy wouldn't have fit. Plus, her character was already established in Dallas
I think that Valene & Gary were at that point were at peace and they were scared it would be screwed up. Remember in The First Opening Sequence she looked so happy. It was like she and Gary finally found a place to call her own.
Never a fan of KL but a great scene... Gary and Valene should have stayed on Dallas.... Gary got Miss Ellie's Looks and Lucy got her height...... Vintage 70's TV....Really miss it...
Yes JR's motivations here did not make any sense. He should have wanted Valene and Lucy to reconnect. If they reconnect they would leave Dallas and Gary would ave no reason to ever come back. Lucy would have been better suited on Knots Landing.
teresa phernandez J.R. looked at ALL siblings as competition to the Ewing money, business and estate as a threat. J.R. wanted their father Jock praise and love for himself along with to run Ewing oil company and money for himself. Gary the oldest, brother at the time failed as a businessman didn't have guts and loss money in drinking and gambling back then to father Jock dismay while living with his family on the Southfork ranch. Gary was involved with Valene at that time was the first to give Jock a grandchild heir, Lucy which made J.R. jealous cause he wanted to be the first and only out the siblings to give Jock an heir, so J.R. ran off Gary by setting him up to feel like he's a loser and failure. Valene left all alone with J.R. threats fled with baby Lucy too, but J.R. parents wanted Lucy. So, J.R. and his hired boys scared Valene to give up baby Lucy and scared Valene to not to return. J.R. tried to run off the little brother Bobby too, but Bobby who had a backbone stood up to J.R. which is why J.R. look at Bobby as his true brother and love and respect Bobby more than Gary and Ray.
Despite Valene. being Lucy’s mother, JR still saw Lucy as a Ewing with their blood flowing thru her veins and so should be raised as such on South Fork. JR had Lucy kidnapped from Val when she was just a baby as he felt Val wasn’t fit to raise a ‘Ewing’. Lucy was brought back to South Fork and from there raised by her paternal grandparents, Jock and Miss Ellie. I don’t know if Lucy even knew or met her other grandmother, Lilimae, Val’s mother.
Gary was a raging alcoholic, so honestly he didn’t need to be anywhere near an infant. JR and Jock judged Val harshly because she didn’t have money. They had no right to take Lucy from her. It was plain and simple kidnapping and Val tried to get Lucy back, but JR bought off the Sheriff and the judges.
It is extremely weird that Lucy only ever appeared in ONE episode of Knots Landing (a lot fewer than JR and Bobby). Watching Knots Landing, it was like Gary and Valene didn't even have a daughter. If anything, Lucy should have frequently appeared on both shows, traveling back and forth between Knots Landing and Southfork, as this would have kept close connections between the two programs over the entire 1978-93 period.
This never sat well with me. Gary and Val moving to California to start a new life for themselves meant that for a second time they were abandoning their own daughter. Logically it would have made sense for Lucy to be with them instead of remaining in Dallas. Consequently, she became an after thought in her parents lives since they hardly saw or spoke to her when they left.
LBF522, I disagree, California was better for Gary and Val . For the first time in Gary's adult life he was settled down, he had a job ,then a ranch, etc . Plus they made lifetime friends with Karen and syd and Mac McKenzie, and Laura and greg and others . This was a smart move for them plus JR and Gary could not exist together in the same house or the same state . Gary was better off far away from him .
I never really been a fan of knots landing, I loved Dallas. I just wished that the show Dallas would have done more with Gary on the show. I wish he had more appearances on the show Dallas.
because she was nobody. In mini series first thing JR asks when Boby married "Is she somebody?" (about Pam) and in early seasons it is mentioned that it was important to JR to marry Sue Ellen - miss Texas, good acquisition to the family
In the unaired ending, we learn that Valene lured the other two into the sea because she'd hired a shark to gobble them up and turn them into shark dook, but the shark ate Gary and Valene instead, and then refused to refund Zombie Valene for the botched hit job.
Looking back it's so sad that Valene and Gary never really knew how their "Leaving" affected her to the point that she could never have a successful relationship let alone having Money that she lost due to some bad deals just like Gary. I think that in Europe she's happiest because she's just happy with her lot. In Real Life Charlene Tilton teaches Acting to Special Needs Folks.
Lucy inheritied $5 million from Jock's will. She lived at Southfork rent free and didn't have many expensives. Plus, she modeled for a few years and made lots of money.
It was JR’s fault ! He had his proud boys take Lucy away from Valene when she was just a baby , he hurt Lucy more than anyone , it’s his fault not Gary and Valene !
Poor Gary a perfect example of an Alcoholic. He tried to stay off the stuff but kept going back and he was a decent man. It is a lifetime problem and there are always setbacks.
I would have loved for her to have made her Fortune in Europe maybe in Computers and the like and come back and give John Ross a grave kick in the backside which he deserved.
Never made sense they never brought Lucy back for more appearances after everything that happened to her parents through the years - divorce, remarriages, attempted murders, the birth of her twin brothers. Tilton was written out of DALLAS a few years after this one and only appearance, so it's not like she wouldn't be more of an asset to them on KL for annual drop-ins.
Because the two shows tried to separate themselves from each other. Dallas was about the wealthy while Knots was about the middle class. Lucy wouldn't have fit into Knots
I had heard a rumor they tried to get her to guest star in 1992 to come to Val's funeral but she was unavailable. However she was mentioned on that show. Mack offered to try to track her down in Europe and I remember she left Dallas the 2nd time to move to Europe a few years before.
Lucy at this point was already a freshman in college. She was living in a big mansion. She didn't want to move into a small (in her eyes) house in another state.
I'd like to see the rest of this soap released on dvd, I've said this in previous video's I'm tired of seeing one or two seasons of a show getting released and then the rest of the Seasons never getting released or some shows don't get released at all. For example E! True Hollywood story has no dvd release at all .
In the 1978 DALLAS novel by lee raintree (before the series was aired)....lucy was not gary's daughter...she was actually JR's secret lovechild with valene (who in the novel was named maureen) maureen was cheating on gary with JR secretly for years. Gary found out about the affair and who lucy's father is, when he came home to surprise maureen after being licked up in a alcoholic detox sanitarium. He beat maureen and left southfork for good.
Those Lee Raintree (real name Con Sellers) books were his own fictional version of Dallas and Knots to capitalize on their success and to write trashy romance novels. I think the first book was released in 1981. David Jacobs created both shows and wrote the story bibles of these characters.
@@CaptainSpalding72 I agree. That marriage to Mitch was boring as watching paint dry. The writers did not have anything for her to do. When they did write for her, they were silly boring stories seperate from the main family storyline.
they always made Lucy look stupid. She picked creeps for boyfriends, she slept with a married guy, older guys. What was her glitch? She should have made her the exact opposite of Gary and made her money and power hungry like JR. It made no sense why she was antagonistic towards JR.
