Fun fact: Sebastian hides abt 13 cats in his closet so that Ciel doesn’t know he has them. I wanna ask how big that closet is. Because at that point it’s not a closet, it’s just a room. Edit: a lot of people in the comments section are shocked abt Sebastian x Ciel. They most likely were not in the fandom back in 2017-2019 because well…we were unhinged. Forget unhinged, we were several feet away from the door frame
That's true looool, i was a child that didnt see shit wrong with shipping this, but i have to say that now i understand why its wrong guys, but yes, the fandom during that time was fucking unhinged
Honestly, not even Ciel and Lizzy get a pass. They’re literally cousins (I know that this was normal back then but that still doesn’t make it any less wrong)
It's historically accurate as nobles and royals were notoriously famous because they really would rather marry a fellow noble cousin rather than someone who isn't royalty, though this marriage was definitely set up by their parents
Thank you!! This was the first ever anime I watched and I always shipped Grell and Sebastian but there was always so many haters on that ship saying “Sebastian belongs with Ciel” NO??? He’s an entire CHILD. This gives me hope the fandom has grown and knows better now.
see my thing is grell deserves better than those two william maybeee but they both treat her shitty and misgender her so i propose Undertaker the perfect man equally as dramatic and silly when he wants and she thinks he’s hot
Well, i think many people here did not watch this during 2017 or 2019, the fandom was fucking unhinged, and as a 11 years old that started watching anime too early, i didn't see shit wrong with the ships💀, than i learned that this was wrong in many ways and started finding black butler a little sus too, because there was many scenes with sexual connotetion or double meaning, i think the author was really feeding those wrong shipps if am honest, like some kind of fan service, author-san is kinda sus too loool
The only ships I was ok with were: Grell and William Grell and Sebastian Grell and Undertaker Ciel and Elizabeth Alois and Ciel. Because all of those are legal. Now the actual ones I liked: Grell x William Grell x Undertaker (bit iffy after reading the manga though) And Alois and Ciel (I liked that one when I was 12) Then Ciel and Elizabeth because damn I love my girl Lizzy in the manga.
It blows my mind how meny people in the fandom are crazy enough to ship Ciel and Sebastien. honestly I do feel that they care about each other, but in a father and son kind of way. not lovers, thats sick 🤮 Also, me and my girlfriend love ❤🖤Sebastien × Grell ❤🖤
1: NO! 2! Ummm idk I mean 12-13 and isn’t alois like 13-14 mm and DONT THEY HATE each other mm idk 3 yeah it’s fine but to me there a bit to young but in this anime’s perspective this was like in the 1800’s so it was arranged 4 NO! They hate each other just a plain no I don’t like it 5! Even if I say yes, Sebastian‘s gonna say NO!
I'm going to be honest, I find Lizzy x Ciel cute. The fact that they DO care for each other and I personally love the idea of Lizzy saving Ciel's soul in the end. But hey, I've only seen season 1 and my favorite arc is apparently not canon.
this was my first ever anime series to finish. and back then, I wasn't aware as how messed up the age of ciel is, and how sexualized he was within the series.
I'm glad that Black Butler was released in 2008 where everything wasn't as crazy as today. Now, imagine if BB was released around this crazy time period, twitter will go crazy with the ships. 😂
I ship Sebastian and ceil under very specific terms- I would never ship them for the actual show but if done carefully and properly in a fanfic than I can get behind it- (ceil has to be aged up by at least eight years and it takes a lot of bonding and work from Sebastian witch could never be put in with the show)
For all the stupid ppl in this app that don't know how to do research. THIS. ANIME. WAS. NEVER. SUPPOSED. TO. BE. BL! No the creator never said that and no some ships never were supposed to be cannon. You could easily figure that out if you read he manga!
For me there is no good ships in Kuroshitsuji Also, I still cant get over 2 p3d0 ships are actually popular ☠️☠️ and both kids are traumatized bcs of s3xual abuse
As s veteran player who spends like 10 dollars a year and has been playing since 1.1 i can confirm that imaginarium is easy if you have enough characters. You don’t have to have them build ( I have the tall account) but half of them should be strong enough to act as a solo dps. In such case the rest of the team is not as important. My advice is to go and build more dps characters of each element
Okay, so with the whole Claude x Alois ship. I think it is toxic and would be a very abusive relationship, but if you watched the anime, Alois does confess his love for Claud, but claud kills him and puts his soul in that damn ring. I dont agree with this ship because of how utterly toxic it is..
Just because I want to say it from a while now I am saying it- I ship these two- but not in the way most people do...their relationship is peculiar and although it's not wholesome but these two somehow feel whole together, you can't fit them into any relationship known to us, they are different, they are unique... I ship them but not in an erotic sense but I ship them.. those two souls who met by chance and somehow completed each other... no I don't mean they "complete" each other in a romantic way- I am saying it in a more "practical" sense.... they are literally like two wanderers headed on a road too long to even perceive... not friends, not rivals, not lovers, not family, not kin, not peer- they are nothing yet they are everything......
Why do people think Alois and ciel is 12?? Like seriously no they are not 12! Alois is 14 and ciel is 13...so yeah.... Oh and also it is weird to ship them with their own butler because they are just kids:3
I mean Lizzy and ciel are fiancé’s so they’ll get married but the whole anime is literally trying to get us to ship Sebastian and ciel there’s hits of it in there
I haven't finnished it yet cause i just started watching a while ago but so far i've just thought of it as a father son kind of relationship to save my sanity
No it never did. People have called Ciel and Sebastian having a family dynamic and have mistaken them for father and child because of their behavior with each other
I think Alois x Ciel is okay, I mean they have the same age range. Lizzy x Ciel are cousins, even though they’re ‘canon’, I don’t really like it but if y’all wanna keep it in the family then… Edit: also I agree with the last two. Maybe it should have been a ‘I don’t know’ on the Sebastian x Claude (if someone can point out flaws in my ideas/wants to put in their own opinions RESPECTFULLY, I don’t mind I don’t judge unless it’s an icky ship. I also will be reporting any comments/replies that are being homophobic or directly negative towards me ❤)
Ngl back when I was 14 I shamefully shipped Ciel x Seb and saw nothing is wrong. But ofc as I grew up I realized how fucked up that is. I remembered voicing it out and I got backlash bc "it's fictional so it's ok" like bro 💀💀
I kinda like ciel x alois only cuz they are close in age The fact this was what made the ship qualifiable says alot about the shippers in this fandom (ahem most being a 13 YEAR OLD WITH A GROWN DEMONIC ENTITY IN THE FORM OF A MAN IN HIS LATE TWENTIES- THIRTIES) 😅 Sorry i get scared sharing my opinions cuz i feel like i can never find the right words😅🥹
Alois is my husbando because I know that his spontaneous violence would satisfy my need to be comfortable existing without my ex without putting me at risk of death like going back would.