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At 39 Jordan was giving teams 40 and even 50 still. Also Jordan is 4th all time in assists for Shooting Guards. Also LeBron hasn't played defense in years. Also, those Bird teams had 5 hall of famers and were one of the greatest defensive teams ever and he put up 63 against em which is still the playoff record. You had no idea how he played while watching this and yet still feel qualified to say how well he played? And how great his competition was? Jordan's championship opponents had a higher winning % than LeBrons as well. Maybe you should check out the LeBron vs Jordan best goat comparison video.
Bro you are sadly mistaken as far as jordans competition. By your same logic lebron is not the goat because he put a team together just to make it out of the east. You cant judge jordans passing off one video. go research the season where the bull needed jordan to play point guard and check his assist totals. and for a full scope of jordans skills watch the histortic bulls mixtape
giving credit for going to the finals and losing is like giving out participation trophies. Lebron is the only player who gets credit for how many times he's lost.
Going by your criteria, Jordan is the greatest player of all time. He was the ultimate winner. He was the ultimate leader. He built up the Bulls from nothing to a championship team, without having to switch to different teams and recruit top tier player friends. He helped develop players like Pippen into allstars, and his ex teammates credit him for leading them and pushing them to become great players. He's also the greatest two way player of all time, being both a scoring champion and defensive player of the year in a single season. He can also do essentially everything, it's just his team required him to be a scorer, which he did in spades, and that's why they were 6-0.
I've been a basketball fan since the mid 1970's, watched multiple generations of basketball, and coached youth basketball when my sons played. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you that today's players and teams are better. The biggest attributes that are lacking in teams and players today compared to the 80's/90's (the NBA's Golden Era) is teamwork, defense, midrange, and fundamentals. There's a lot of shooters who can shoot 3's today, but hardly any who can put up a consistent midrange. In MJ's case, he really had no weaknesses. Defense, offense anywhere on the floor, passing, free throws, making players around him better, fundamentals, 100% hussle, off-of-the-charts basketball IQ, game winning shots, 6 championships in 8 years, etc., etc., etc. No one (yes, not even Kobe or Lebron) has ever had the total package. MJ did. Bird and Magic nearly did. Michael did all of this against Hall of Famers who are better in game and team situations than players and teams today. Trust me. Kobe was probably the best scorer ever, and I respect that. But scorers are a dime a dozen. I want a total package who can also play superior defense. Lebron is the best physical specimen to ever play, but he's not as consistent (not even close) as MJ in big games and making his teammates better (Lebron also has a tendency to flop in games, which loses a lot of respect in my eyes). He has made some really poor decisions in big games that MJ (and even Bird) never did. I will take teamwork and basketball IQ over scoring and athleticism anyday; that's what wins championships. Still, you did a great job with the video and your reaction. Keep up the good work.
@@punkem733 i like Kobe a lot, but when people say he was the greatest scorer or a better scorer than MJ, they must be trippin, 10 consecutive scoring titles, highest all time scoring averse regular season and post season, CASE CLOSED!!
I agree with everything you wrote except the part about Kobe being the greatest scorer ever. That again is MJ. And it's not close. Jordan has the highest scoring average ever both in the regular season and more importantly, the postseason. In fact Jordan's postseason scoring average is higher than his regular season scoring average, which is absurd because the playoffs is when defenses are at their peak. Plus MJ did it more efficiently than Kobe all while being the main focus of the opposing team's defense night in and night out. Jordan did this in one of the toughest defensive eras when the pace of the game was slower than it is today. Jordan never had a teammate like Shaq who could command double teams and take defensive pressure off of him. Jordan was also much stronger, quicker and more explosive than kobe, while having the hand size of a center making him be able to palm the ball with wither hand and complete shots that kobe wouldnt be able to make. in the early 2000s after Jordan retired, the NBA removed handchecking with the expressed intent to make life easier for perimeter players like Kobe, TMac, Vince Carter etc, while limiting the opposing teams defenses. It worked, and scoring exploded in the mid 2000s and beynd. That was around the time when Kobe had his 35ppg season. Kobe might be the most skilled player ever, i'll give him that. But even Kobe's best offensive game ever 81pts, is ranked second in the modern era to Jordan's 69pt game. Jordan is simply the greatest scorer ever, even better than Wilt whose scoring per 36 mins is inferior to Jordan's .
i fully agree. most of todays players wouldn't have a chance against the pistons or knicks defense back in the 90's. it took a while but after a few years mj destroyed every defense and forced the whole team to play better.
MJ played against the best hall of fame players you can imagine! He beat Bad Boys Pistons, Magic Lakers, Clyde Portland, Barkley Sun's, Payton Sonics, and the all mighty Jazz of Malone two times
Malone and Stockton. I can't believe he disrespected Larry Bird like that. Larry Bird wasn't just the greatest shooter of his era but also one of the greatest shooters ever.
People always forget MJ was one of the most dominant defenders of his generation. All team first defense 9 times, defensive player of the year, only player to record 100 blocks and 200 steals twice. Only one person in the history of the game has done it one other time. If he didn’t score a point and relied just on those defensive stats alone, he’s in the hall of fame.
Respect to you for being open minded. To put things in better perspective for you. Jordan lost earlier in his career to a Celtics team with 5 hall of famers. And the bad boy pistons who were champions at that time. He wasn’t losing to just anyone. His playoff opponents could win titles in today’s nba. You just never hear about his opponents in the 90s because history only remembers the winners.
Not only that. But if your opponents create 'rules' specifically to stop you and they still couldn't, you know you're great. That's what was happening to MJ.
FACTS. people dont realised what teams Jordan was playing against in the playoffs. the teams that beat him was Pistons and Celtics who were BOTH champions....and he wasnt even polished yet. Then after dealing with the Pistons then went on to deal with another tough team..Knicks, Knicks in the 90s were incredible...PACKED. Also look at who he had in the finals he played against...all those teams were PACKED. Lakers, Portland, Suns ( was hella packed, they won the most games that year in 93) Sonics packed to...and Utah wasnt the most athletic but IQ and toughest was insane....So no, Jordan didnt have any easy ride
Funny part is, there was also a time when Lebron was on the most stacked team before and when they did have that dream team. They still ended up losing in the finals.
My guy great video, Mike was playing grown men when you could hand check and no zone was allowed, When a foul was a foul and the physicality was off the charts on defense. If MJ was playing today with all the phantom fouls he would average like 45 and he played defense.
by "no zone" what you mean is the defense couldn't leave their man and stack towards one side of the court w/o getting an illegal defense called and MJ could isolate himself against some turd over and over again all over the court.
@@hunterhottman4905 I hope that's not what he means. Zone defenses were illegal for the entire time Mike was with the Bulls and the lack of it played to his strengths as a player, i.e. when he isolated in the wing, other defenders had to stay at home on their man or commit to the on ball double team and could not crowd the side of the court he was on or box 4 around the lane the way they can now. Mike is awesome no doubt, but this analysis is not only wrong but absurd. Even the physicality part, there were players and maybe even a few teams that were physical but it was hardly the case with the majority of the league especially up to about 94.
@@oceanroi6612 I've been watching basketball since '84. You are telling me only a couple teams were physical? The NBA had to change rules to get the physical play down. And it was war well into the 90's. Celtics, Knicks, pistons, Indiana, the sixers all played physical just to name a few.
@@pointhigh2441 I don't give a f×ck when you started watching basketball. You can look at the league wide scoring and see clearly when the physical defensive play started to really take hold around 93-94. Any assessment to the contrary is wrong, especially those portraying the league as physical for the entirety of MJs career (which would mean the NBA ignored it for a decade). Either way, your lame assessment doesn't change or challenge any of what I said.
Jordan was the one where you got chills watching how talented he was on both ends of the floor.. He was the greatest offensively and an absolute beast defensively a 9× all defensive player selected. You look at his individual accomplishments as well as team not to mention how clutch and competitive he was the will to win and wanted to destroy the opponent. 6 for 6 in NBA Finals with 6 finals mvps and the list goes on and on. He's the GOAT!! #MJ23AIRNESS. Now Lebron is one of the greatest ever but he's not surpassing Michael
I can’t believe we’re at a time when people actually think MJ is underrated. And if MJ didn’t retire he would have won 8 in a row. Doing 3 in a row twice isn’t bad though. I see you passing Kobe in this conversation.
How you not know Jordan was catching bodies like that 😂Kobe favourite player was MJ,where you think he got most of the moves from and of course had is own moves as well
in his defense, the young ones just didn't have the luxury of watching Jordan live like older generations did. ESPN and co. never show highlights of his dunks; they just show the same old replays of his game winners over and over again. Unless kids go back and watch old games, they'd never really know how good he was. Even then, watching replays of old games doesn't capture the magnitude of the games, so it's still not the same as seeing it live.
@@govahmenttv8559 Exactly. And I wish he would stop. Kobe didn't wear his number. Lebron is just pushing to hard and comes off bad and awkward. Like MJ, Kobe had a certain coolness to them because they didn't try so hard to be accepted I would say even Giannis had that way about him. Guys like Lebron and KD come off to forced
MJ is the most complete player at both ends of the court and still holds the average ppg record in both the regular season and playoffs (which was actually higher than in the regular season) and all this was done when you could hand check and the big men could camp themselves under the hoop all game just waiting to batter anyone who drove to the hoop - he is the GOAT and as incredible as James is, if you look and compare the two players respective games top to bottom objectively it really isn't a close debate. James could pretty much sleepwalk his way through the East to the finals year after year and as great as the Warriors teams he played in the finals were, even they couldn't win 3 straight titles, MJ's Bulls did it twice (in 8 years) and during that time they were the juggernaunt team of the NBA which included a 72 game winning season where they didn't choke in the finals like the Warriors did.
All around great player. Jordan won the MVP, Defensive Player of the year, lead the leauge in scoring and steals IN THE SAME YEAR. Yeah. Considered by many to be the greatest defensive player at his position of all time, and almost universally recognized as the greatest offensive threat all time. Not to mention top caliber numbers for a shooting guard in rebounds and assists at 6.4 and 5.3 per. With a somewhat short career he still stands at 5th all time at his position in assists and 3rd all time in rebounds. The dude was a complete player if there was ever one.
Facts 💯 percent.. MJ never lost and would never give up on his team.. MJ played against Big 3’s teams all the time.. LB played against 5 players he probably said. MJ played against a lot more legends and the play back then was crazy.. U come in the Lane your head would be knock off back then.. 2 different eras one is soft and don’t play D and the other era u had to earn it and play harder to get your Respect..
4 out of 10 that's wilt Chamberlain bad in the finals and lebron always has a stacked team for every championship run. Jordan is number one and lebron is barely top 5
Underrated!?!? Where do you live? Under a rock? THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME IS OR HAS NEVER BEEN UNDERRATED!! No one even gets close to this mans greatness!
MJ played and beat some great teams though in all of his title wins. The Stockton & Malone Jazz, The Magic with Shaq & Hardaway, The "bad boy" Pistons after they had won 2 straight titles. You could argue that the only team he didn't conquer was the Celtics in the late 80s, before the Bulls won a title.
We all know Lebron takes a night of& here and there. And sometimes that defense is spotty. Michael never took a night off. Ever. His defense was stellar. Always near the top of the league in steals and blocked shots. And he took on every one. There were some stacked teams. His inside game would dust these outside shooting no contact fools today. Jordan would feast on the lack of an inside game today. And If you look at the rosters he played with all those years, until Rodman showed up, all he ever had was Scotty Pippen. It was Jordan, Pip, and a bunch of utility players that just needed to concentrate on their own jobs. Now a lot of these traits Lebron has but your consistency argument doesn’t hold water. Michael is the picture of consistency. And he was on some bad Bulls teams when he arrived in Chicago, and still was putting up record breaking numbers. Pick any Bulls game on RU-vid and tell me Jordan isn’t consistent. You knew for a fact when you sat down to watch a Bulls game back in the day Jordan was going to do a dozen eye popping plays you couldn’t believe. He put up LeBron numbers in half the time it has taken Lebron. You’re right. This dance could go on forever. Subscribed.
Everything you just said is Micheal Jordan. He was and still is the GREATEST. to ever lace up some sneakers. This man won 6🏆‘a, 6 Final MVP”s, Scoring Titles, this mangas won MVP”s in the regular seasons.
The rules during that era were different. It was a lot tougher than you think. Some of the greatest players in history didn't win it all due to this man. Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, John Stockton..ext The teams that were winning in his early career were monsters. These were very brutal match ups just to get out of the East.
Bro. If they showed mj passing skills this video would've been 2 hrs long .. lol ... he could pass its just that for years he was the only scorer on the team. Back then teams around 2 great players per team. Look at who was his teammates before 1989
@@eazail exactly, and most people don't know but Jordan has the most apg over a finals series not named Magic Johnson, at 11.4apg in the 91 finals.. He could absolutely pass, it's just that he's by far the bulls best scoring option.
His first eight years he kept on getting injured because of how talented he was a lot of teams were actually trying to enter him. Like I said watch The Last Dance and you will find out.
How can LeBron be the Goat when you can't be sure 100% that he'll even be on the floor last 5 minutes of the game. BTW u ain't never seen mj ever flop.
Growing up watching Jordan, he passed it around for 3 quarters, and kept it all to himself in the 4th quarter. That was generally how it worked. BTW. I'm a Kawhi fan these days.
Here's a significant factor to consider greatness by, the level of and success against great competition with high stakes. Jordan against 60+ win teams in playoffs 7-2, LeBron against 60+ win teams in playoffs 3-4....Jordan against 50+ win teams in playoffs 20-7, LeBron against 50+ win teams in playoffs 10-9.
@@cameroncreed1442 So Jordan competed against 36 teams with 50+ wins in playoffs with 9 of those having 60+ wins, Kobe competed against 42 teams with 50+ wins in playoffs with 7 of those having 60+ wins.....LeBron competed against 26 teams in playoffs with 50+ wins in playoffs with 7 of those having 60+ wins. LeBron faced a lot of sub paar teams in the playoffs, many around .500, some even below. LeBron's eastern conference era was the weakest conference competitively in the history of basketball, and that's where the first superteam was built
Yeah Kobe dominated Lebron. Look at Kobe's career compared to Lebron. Kobe dominated Lebron in his prime while winning championships and mvp's. Lebron is not in the top 5...
@Djtheg0at25 Are you saying I'm the casual man? Just wanting to be clear lol I stated facts my man, 2012 and 2013 - Lebron had multiple 1v1 scenarios vs Kobe and he have up two TOV and got blocked. It was embarrassing even Melo and Wade were laughing at Lebron in the game As for you saying Lebron would whoop Kobe, and then implying g he's better than MJ... firstly I do rate Lebron above Kobe for Career, but 1v1 I would say Kobe might have the edge Secondly MJ vs Lebron, if you genuinely think Lebron's better say it, and explain why because I have a dozen reasons why MJ's the GOAT, Lebron is not even ahead of Kareem yet bro
@Djtheg0at25 for career? Yeah he has the edge over Kobe imo doesn't change the 'fact' that Kobe embarrassed Lebron (or Lebron embarrassed himself) in the 2012 all star game
Teams are stacking up in defense to the stacking that Lebron has been doing for a decade. Jordan didn't chase great teammates or greatness; it eas bestowed upon him. MJ looks more natural than Lebron with the basketball; MJ is art and pure skill; Lebron is freak of nature type dominance. MJ may be the most underrated passer of all time.
People don’t know he led the league in assists playing point guard his first few years in the league. His coach at the time Doug Collins talks about it in a video.
@@TheCheffer76 He never lead the league in assists. Ever. He was never even top 10 in assists in a given season. He generally averaged 4-6 per game across his career. Those 80s Bulls teams needed him to score 35+ every night. He had no help until Pippin and Grant, yet he would will them to the playoffs. Magic, Isiah, and Stockton were averaging 10+ during Michael's early years.
I seen Micheal Jordan live in the playoffs vs Alonzo mournings heat team one of the best memories I shared with my father. He will forever be the goat in my eyes
Jordan's third game is on RU-vid. Watch it. He declared himself THE MAN 96 minutes into his first season. It took LeBron a dozen years to even approach this level of mental toughness.
Jordan would wipe the floor with Lebron and then Lebron would run to the locker room to cry. Huge difference. MJ had the respect of everyone and was a class act on and off the court. He was always willing to help younger players. It’s why he and Kobe were close…mad respect for each other.
Jordan was a great passer. You should see him when he ran the point. But sometimes you have to think. Why pass the ball to somebody that has a lower chance of making that bucket? Lebron doesn't have that problem, as plenty of players could have a better chance in making that shot over him, especially at the end of the game.
@@realitybites629 yeah who does Lebron pass it to that has a better chance at scoring the basket than MJ? Then how much credit does Lebron receive for the points scored?
Michael Jordan in my opinion had the best pass in the NBA during the finals where he passed to steve Kerr to make the final shot. He split a double team, faked a 3rd player across the court with a no look pass, while tripping John Stockton all at the same time to get Steve Kerr the game winning shot.
At 45 years old I watched them all play, Mike, LeBron, and Kobe. Still to this day, M.J, is the unquestioned G.O.A.T (IMO). LeBron, needed super-teams to win championships, Jordan, didn’t. Mike, took the players that were given to him and willed them to championships. He was also a lockdown defender. LeBron’s, the greatest all-around player but, M.J’s, the G.O.A.T. Lastly, I watched all three of these all time greats while they were in their primes, M.J, was on another level with it. Loved the video..👍🏽👍🏽
Jordan is more than the greatest basketball player of all time. Michael Jordan is the greatest athlete of all time. He had the entire package. No weakness.
What MJ been ballin since day 1 in the league and he went to the playoffs in his rookie season and he went up against the Celtics, Bucks, and bad boy Pistons teams that was good in the 80s. And when Scottie first came in the league he wasn’t a all-star like everyone assuming he was took him a couple of years to become great. And you say MJ wasn’t a good passer look up the video of him when he had to play pg for most of a season you will be surprised he was averaging triple doubles.
Lmao leadership is something lebron DOES NOT have. Jordan easily has that, he made his team win and prepared them mentally. Lebron only focused on himself and trying to make himself look good. Championships easily Jordan. All around player - Jordan is the greatest two way player anyone has ever seen. 3rd in steals, best shot blocking guard, lethal perimeter defender, one of if not the greatest scorer of all time. It doesn’t stop there, he is a great rebounder foe a guard and he has showed his passing ability when needed with low turnovers as well. He literally did it all. Lebron has so many weaknesses that could be exploited - free throw, pull up, jump shot, off ball movement, clutch, defense, - According to your all time great list jordan is easily over lebron in all these categories.
@@HaroonKhan-wd2dz u krazy lebron has lead he showed that w/ Dwight Howard kobe couldn’t control him w/ bron he fall n line n down 3-1 to warriors he lead
Cuz he is too young to have seen anything besides YT videos and makes his decisions based on it. You don't know what you don't know. I hope he realized there is a video on MJ for Dunks, Assist, Defense. Like 10 plus minutes of highlights on just that category lmfao.
@@mizzyfit_334 Are we talking bout Dwight? really? Dwight Howard? Bonehead when he was with Kobe, a more mature fellow when with LBJ, can't compare. Still. Nothing compares to MJ's leadership according to his teammates and peers. sometimes to a fault.
No one player has influenced the game of basketball more than Michael Jordan. Before Jordan (and through half of his career) there were many players who were not that strong. They were tall and thin but that's it. He wasn't the first to be incredibly athletically fit but his playstyle was so amazing that everyone else had to be that kind of fit just to hang on the same court with him; otherwise, you were getting served up like some appetizers. He was such a competitor that his teammates didn't even like playing cards (or domino's or dice) with him because, if he was losing, he would not let them quit playing until he won all of his shit back from you. One of the biggest things to get overlooked is that, before Michael Jordan, almost nobody had a shaved head. Some movie characters have shaved heads but it was rare that you ever saw a shaved head in real life. I know because I shaved my head for the first time in 1987 I couldn't go anywhere without people whispering or snickering or thinking I had cancer or thinking I was a Nazi. After about 2 years of Jordan wearing a bald head, shiny heads were everywhere and it was no big deal. Two things that have changed basketball: - the NBA merger with the ABA - Michael Jordan
I grew up with Jordan so he is my favorite obviously. But I respect this 💩 outta Kobe, and so many other greats. I just think Jordan is the goat cuz I watched every game of his and witnessed the magic.
In all 3 of your categories I would say MJ wins out. Maybe the leadership can be argued because they both won with their styles. LBJ doesn’t play much defense, really the whole league doesn’t, and MJ played both sides every game. Teams now a days are offensively stacked, yes, but in MJ days teams were defensively stacked and MJ still scored over 30. LBJ didn’t get to the Ship until 4 years after entering the NBA and got swept and didn’t make it back til 2011, it did take MJ 7, one he didn’t play much so really 6 years. Why does everyone always say MJ wasn’t a great passer, you didn’t watch the whole video then. Funny how you point out that All Around Player matters much, probably because you think Bron wins this one, and you don’t put much on Championships since you know MJ wins that one. Much props tho, great reaction vid.
Hand checking was allowed back then. If Steph Curry played in the '80's we wouldn't even know his name. Actually he would be called Dell Curry.. The '80's Celtics and Lakers would wipe the floor with the teams today if they played with the rules back then. Kevin Durant would be snapped like a tooth pick if played the Detroit Piston Bad Boys in a seven game series. A bunch of great stars don't make a great team- this has been proven over and over. It was Michael Jordan and Pippen and the rest were just plugged in- there was no denying Jordan. I don't want to diss Lebron because he is great, but he doesn't have the killer instinct like Jordan, Bird and Magic.
Speaking of Pip - a lot of heads don't know that he wasn't even recruited out of high-school. He walked on some Arkansas college as an equipment manager/player. As a freshman his duties weren't to score, create or defend - they were to sweep gym, pick up balls after practice and keep equipment organized. It wasn't until some teammates quit that he was allowed to play as a reserve. Even as a Bulls rookie, he was not stud. Brad Sellers beat him out for the small-forward spot. But after a couple years under Air Jordan's wings he learned how to fly. Jordan morphed him into the boy wonder to his Batman. Bron was gifted ballers that were already some of the best in the league.
Yeah i think alot of players of today would have a hard time playing with the hand checking and physical play. Alot of extremely soft players in the nba now.
@@katrinachavez3533 Alot of ppl forget about that wit MJ n Pip. They went to COLLEGE. MJ spent 3 years under the master Dean Smith. Pip was a f'n PG that grew like 8 inches his sophomore year of college. From Central Ark to 50 greatest players. I ain't gon lie...I lost some respect for Pip when he put Phil on blast. Everybody know Phil Jackson ain't no damn racist. In basketball you gotta have a decoy sometimes...sorry Pip in 94 it was you n Kuk took the shot. And...sank it. That's a long ass time to be bitter about one play
The look on the kids face when MJ does "the move" on the lakers. Like finding out santa clause isn't real. From that point on he knows his boy Lebron is not in Jordans league....
I think my OMG moment was against the knicks when he was pursued by Starks and Oakley retreats then goes baseline then slams on Patrick Ewing. Starks and Oakley some of the toughest defenders and Patrick Ewing a giant redwood and slammed over him. Saw that when it happened and the jaw just dropped.
I agree that the Warriors were a stacked team but so was Cleveland with LBJ, Kyrie and Love and Miami with LBJ, Wade and Bosh. Durant jumped on the bandwagon with the Warriors but so did Lebron by taking his talents to South Beach
@@cowboy2158 Lebron didn’t do any team stacking. Lebron carried every team he’s been on. 5 of Lebron finals losses came where he had no help, injuries or was completely one sided
First of all, some MJ highlight video only shows some flashy shots. In no way does it represent Jordan's greatness. One thing you left out of your 3 things you rate greatness on is "Performance under pressure and clutch, blocks, steals and shots". So add that to your Jordan Videos to watch how many times his defense or last second clutch won championship or playoff games. Jordan was the best defensive player I have ever seen not just a good defender and scoring champion. Jordan was a shooting guard so your point of "Leadership" is lost in him "making others better" he made them better through actual field general in practice and games not so much assists. Lastly you say that Lebron has super teams out there? Jordan stayed on the same team other teams were building to beat him in a time when common fouls would be ejections today with multiple game suspensions. To watch some 10 minute highlight cut and make any type of judgement on his career is crazy my guy. Have a blessed day.
Magic Johnson said, “There’s Michael Jordan and then there is the rest of us.” Larry Bird, following a playoff game where Jordan dropped 63 points on the Boston Celtics in just his second season, appraisal of the young player was: “God disguised as Michael Jordan.” A brief listing of his top accomplishments would include the following: Rookie of the Year; Five-time NBA MVP; Six-time NBA champion; Six-time NBA Finals MVP; Ten-time All-NBA First Team; Nine time NBA All-Defensive First Team; Defensive Player of the Year; 14-time NBA All-Star; Three-time NBA All-Star MVP; 50th Anniversary All-Time Team; Ten scoring titles - an NBA record and seven consecutive matching Wilt Chamberlain; Retired with the NBA’s highest scoring average of 30.1ppg
LoL .. MJ is the G.O.A.T... This man lead the league in scoring and prided himself on D... This ERA by far was the best ever .. He scored at will on ANYBODY against some tough ass Defense not this soft cupcake D of today ... In my humble opinion LeBum James doesnt belong in the same sentence with MJ or Bird ... LeBum wouldn't make it a month playing against real D..
Lebron 6’9 250 pound of pure muscle he’d be great in this era. Lebron is way above bird and Lebron is considered by many to be the basketball GOAT above Mj. Your a hater
@@TakeCareJoelle very few reputable analysts consider LeBron to be above MJ. The only people who do are young kids who weren't alive during the 80s/90s and casuals who don't know shit about nba history.
@@tyleru96 a lot of nba analysts are old heads. There’s a good amount of analysts who think Lebron is the best and rightfully so. You don’t have to be alive just watch the highlights or full games. There not casuals if they are speaking their opinion. Lebron has made a resume vastly worthy of surpassing Mj. I believe Mj is the goat as of right now but he will be surpassed when Lebron is finished playing.
@@TakeCareJoelle Most of the "old heads" I'm referring to literally played in the NBA, so their opinion is worth a hell of a lot more than yours. "watching highlights" isn't how you judge a player; you have to watch film. None of you LeBron truthers have ever sat down and extensively watched game tape from the older eras, which is why your come out with such naive takes. Anyone can express their opinion, but that doesn't mean said opinions are correct or immune to criticism. LeBron's resume is legendary, but he'll never pass Jordan. Sorry. Jordan was just better. Even if you refuse to go watch the film, statistics point towards Jordan as well. And no, I'm not talking about worthless stats like career totals. I'm talking about advanced stats that are adjusted per game. Jordan has LeBron beat in literally every advanced metric, including PER, offensive/defensive +/-, win shares per game, wins above replacement, etc. The biggest advantage Jordan has over LeBron was the fact that Jordan was a top 5 defender of all time (again, statistics support this, too). LeBron, while he has had some seasons where he has defended well, has, for the majority of his career, been an average defender. You're free to believe whatever you want. I'm not going to argue with you any further because, frankly, it'd be a waste of both of our time.
@@tyleru96 most of the old heads your referring to played in Mj era. Opinions can persuade with facts. You can judge a player by their highlights and full games it’s called tape. I’ve sat down and watched mj and his the last dance. I’m a big fan of both players. It’s not naive takes its just facts. How is career totals useless? It’s literally how you compare players. Mj and Lebron are two different play styles. Mj only worried about scoring and playing defense while Lebron worried about scoring and also giving assist and getting rebounds and also playing defense but for the defense mj focused on himself and one guy, Lebron never focused on one guy he made sure his teammates had their right matchup and assignment. Lebron beats mj in stats. Lebron scored, assisted and gets rebounds. Mj only scored. Lebron is a better all around player mj is a better scorer. Lebron will surpass mj and the stats prove it.
The teams you talking Lebron playing against with Durant ,curry etc is teams that whup Lebron,in mj era you don’t get brownie points for playing a great team,you have to beat them,no excuses
M.J. in 1989 for the Bulls played the point and was spectacular. I think he recorded 7 consecutive triple doubles as a point guard. M.J. average 5.3% assist for his career which is very good for a 2 guard.
Career avg of +30 in the season, playoffs, and finals ( AS THE FIRST OPTION IN THE SYSTEM ), 6-0 in the finals, 6x NBA Champion( Games never went to a game 7...ever ), 6x Finals MVP, 5x Season MVP, 14x All star, 10x All NBA, 9x All defensive, 10x NBA scoring Champ, 3 NBA steals leader, 2x Dunk champ...That is Michael Jeffrey Jordan, The One and ONLY GOAT. Lebron is just One of the GOATS, top 2 for sure.
That was not "the end of the video". There's a great series called Making the Case and it covers 8 players who could be the GOAT. I think you'd definitely enjoy them.
Dude, MJ was a shooting guard: his primary job for his team was to score. Is he a good passer? Did you know that when Coach Doug Collins had him play the point guard position, he almost averaged a triple double ? Yes, he did that looooooooooong before Harden and LeBron grew out of their diapers.
HERE IT IS: Jordan vs James: Updated after LeBron’s 14th season. Michael Jordan has: •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost” (GOAT) that played in Chicago” •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018) •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. MIchael Jordan: •NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88) •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98) •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice! •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career… Remind me again...who is the GOAT?
I get it. I really do. Whoever the best player was at the time you fell in love with the game will probably always be your GOAT. It's like your first true love. They hold a special place in your heart. All these guys they always mention as potential GOATS could probably dominate on any given day against each other. They're all GOAT's.
I put mj as the goat. Mj was the best scorer and one of the best defenders of his time. He was a pretty good passer too. Jordan faced some damn good teams also . The Celtics had 5 hall of famers on their team. For him too win a ring in the 80s he woulda had to beat the Lakers a team with 3 or 4 hall of famers, the Celtics, and the Sixers with 3 hall of famers just to get a ring. So both faced some competition. And it's pretty hard to say who the goat it's been plenty of great players I'm cool if you got LeBron over him.
You missed a very important category. Clutch. Making game winning shots. Making game winning plays. Jordan all day. And leadership? Come on man, Lebron can't ever compare. Michael elevated his team and the sport to another level.
Yes it him took him 7 years but he never lost after that, plus a whole different league when Jordan was playing. What makes Jordan the best is the journey he went through to become a champion 🏆
Bro you’re sleeping on the old timers. Mfers could literally knock him down into the court. Lebum wouldn’t survive a season much less a playoff run back then. Lebum would need a team of psychologists if we went up v Bird much less Jordan. Hed fold up like a lawn chair. Wasn’t no flops back then either.
Jordan put the NBA on his shoulders and made it a global phenomenon. Thats why you have your Kobes and Lebrons and D Wades and not to mention so many other foreign players as well.. He set the bar. And still does. Thats why he is what he is.
Because of Michael people like Patrick Ewing ,Gary Payton , John Stockton , Karl Malone , Charles Barkley , he made them all have a worse legacy Cuz they lost to mike.
C'mon man you didn't even play the full video but tryna convince us that Bron better than Jordan which will NEVER happen Jordan is 6-0 with 6 finals MVPS and he never allowed a series to go to a game 7 and he played in a much more physical era back when defense mattered he's also a 10x scoring champion and the 1988 defensive player of the year and he 3peated TWICE do your homework bro but LeBron nice tho
You're missing a few important points here, in 2002 the nba made changes to the rules to open up the game, speed up the pace and make it easier to score, you can look that up its a fact...in today's game you can't even breath on a player without getting a foul called...when jordan played the defense was tougher aka hand checking...what happens to lebron if you put him in a tougher defensive era where flopping wont help him and what happens to jordan if you put him in today's almost no defense era???...and you're downplaying all those hall of famers jordan beat in the finals not realizing that the reseason they didn't win a chip is because jordan got in the way of that...the mavs weren't a super team and neither were the spurs but lebron was in a super team in miami and only manage to beat a baby okc team and if it wasn't for ray allen in 2013 he would have lost to the spurs 2wice in a row...the only legit one was 2016 maybe thanks to dreymond getting suspended...not to mention after 1999 the west became the power conference in the league and the east got weak making it easier to come out of the east against weaker teams, lets not forget who came out of the east in 1999 ( the 8 seed knicks team with no patrick ewing)...and also in Jordan's last finals run he was 35yrs old and he retired because the gm wanted to brake up the team not bcuz he was done...he would have beaten the younger version of that spurs team that lebron had so much trouble with...and lastly the game is not called passball its called BASKETBALL and the purpose of it is to put the ball in the basket more than your opponent and nobody ever in the history of the game did that better than MICHAEL JORDAN
You should understand and study NBA history, or at least go back and study up on the 80's/90's basketball. Calling today's NBA better makes you look stupid. *(not saying you are, just that it does make you look that way.
