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Kona Electric Pre-Conditioning. Defrosting in the winter on a timer 

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How to set the timer to precondition your car for when you depart.
Set the temperature, set the day/time you want to depart and leave the car plugged into your charger and you're all set.
Lots of testing has shown the Pre-Conditioning​ switches on 30 minutes before the departure time.
From my charger I can see it initially draws a full charge for a few seconds then reduces the power being drawn to just what it needs. For heating I saw around 1kw engine used, for A/C cooling it was as high as 1.7kw being used!
Anyway, no more scraping the car in the morning!
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Комментарии : 80   
@pouleichel426
@pouleichel426 4 года назад
THANK you so much for showing that i'm not the only one annoyed by the rattling covers !
@WDanes
@WDanes 5 лет назад
Thanks for these videos! I’m getting my Kona in February so these are prepping me nicely.
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
You're welcome, shame how little the manufacturer actually tells us so hopefully these videos help
@guitarbackingtracks4386
@guitarbackingtracks4386 5 лет назад
Thanks Nige, was struggling to find that one!
@glenmason9755
@glenmason9755 5 лет назад
Cheers Nigel. I’ve not had a chance to play with these settings yet. I’m looking forward to having it nice and toasty when I get in it on cold winter mornings.
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
It's great finding all these new bits of tech.
@TheswedishDane
@TheswedishDane 5 лет назад
nice and good information,
@yodagerhard8389
@yodagerhard8389 5 лет назад
Thanks for your work 👍🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Welcome
@MargatePete6137
@MargatePete6137 5 лет назад
Thanks for that information. All the best...........Peter.
@upendraagrawal9261
@upendraagrawal9261 4 года назад
Dear Friend, Thanks for nice review. Can you explain, how is AC cooling performance in 45 degree (Heat) temperature of Hyundai Kona Electric car ? And how many kilometers it will run on full AC within one recharge ?
@alanvanallen7762
@alanvanallen7762 5 лет назад
Thanks Nigel,all interesting snippets of info for potential owners {not me unfortunately} Am surprised no app for pre conditioning,I really would have thought Hyundai would have included this feature,it seems most other EV's have it,and very useful for those frosty morning starts,perhaps it could be included in a future update if poss.Also ,it would be good to have the choice whether to pre-condition to a lesser extent direct from battery power,requiring no plugin
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Yep it seems by design too so not an oversight just not possible with current design. They've missed a trick for sure. At least my charger will have app support soon
@markjennings2315
@markjennings2315 5 лет назад
There is an app called Autolink. It works in Korea and is available for Kona (ice versions) in NZ but the EV variant is "pending"
@abandonedtube
@abandonedtube 5 лет назад
I'm very interested in buying a Kona or Niro. But this puts me off a bit. I have an i3 and it's so useful to precondition the car on the fly. As it stands I won't be able to precondition the Kona before my commute home from work. Hopefully this is fixed next year when my car is due to go back.
@enyaq_gorm
@enyaq_gorm 5 лет назад
5 degrees this morning, set my leaf from my phone to warm up while I was having breakfast :)
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Grrrrr 😉
@enyaq_gorm
@enyaq_gorm 5 лет назад
@@EVPuzzle you mean Brrrrrr surely? 😉
@glacieractivity
@glacieractivity 5 лет назад
First slight bummer I have become aware of. App control for preheat /conditioning of battery is very close to an absolute must have. As an absolute minimum have an app that hook up over Bluetooth that allow one to press a "precondition button" within 30 minutes before departure on a 10-15 meter distance for all the minus 20 degree days in Norway. Happy owner, happy guest being driven home, happy battery, happy car. Because we really do not want to pre-schedule departure of friends visiting.
@possi2131
@possi2131 5 лет назад
Agreed with your frustration, but let's be honest: if you go to work every day at xx:xx, it's nice that you can set it at that time. Maybe you have 2 days that you don't, either remove them or edit them the day before. If you forget it: who cares, it preheats/cools and nothing is lost (well, some energy). An app would be great, but not sure if it's coming... I manage just fine without, but the app would be great!
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Being an ex. Programmer I'm more dissappointed there's all that data and access available yet not provided.
@MarcovanDavenhorst
@MarcovanDavenhorst 5 лет назад
Great videos Nigel! Just a question, why would you set the charge limit to 50%? Why not say 90 or even 100%?
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Just to stop it charging and mess up my test. I wanted to focus on just the climate control turning on. Strangely I have found times already I don't want to charge as I know I'm charging for free later when out. It's nice not being under pressure to charge to high levels all the time.
@MarcovanDavenhorst
@MarcovanDavenhorst 5 лет назад
Ah that makes sense! Tnx
@IgnoreMyChan
@IgnoreMyChan 2 года назад
Did this change in the past few years?
@spacegreycoralred
@spacegreycoralred 5 лет назад
When using the precondition on the app, does the car need to be plugged in? I live in Las Vegas, and its hot. If i go to the shops, i like to be able to cool the car when im about to return.
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Yes plugged in
@jonathanwarne3480
@jonathanwarne3480 3 года назад
@@EVPuzzle Just getting a KIA Soul which seems very similar in layout and that seems to need to be plugged in to. A bit annoying. My BMW i3 didn't need to be plugged in to precondition.
@bernoberends2465
@bernoberends2465 5 лет назад
Hi Nigel Will the car maintain the set temperature after reaching the departure time? Tnx, Bob
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Not sure about indefinitely . I turned car on so not 100% sure
@trevorbromley-palmer
@trevorbromley-palmer 5 лет назад
Hi Nigel, slightly off topic. Each day I get in mine and turn it on, it says that the Aux Battery Saver+ has been active whilst it was parked. Are you seeing this. I am currently only charging it on weekends, so it doesn’t get plugged in during the week.
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
No Trevor not seen that yet. Are you driving it daily? I drive be mine every 2 or 3 days . Must confess , not sure what my battery management settings are at the moment, whether set to top up or not
@trevorbromley-palmer
@trevorbromley-palmer 5 лет назад
Carl Steinar Andersen Thanks very much for working that out, it was puzzling me.
@narphizoid
@narphizoid 5 лет назад
Can you precondition via the UVO app?
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
As per the Hyundai blue link App, that feature / app isn't available in the UK
@MrKroolboy
@MrKroolboy 5 лет назад
Why you choose to put the charge limit to 50%? Shouldn't around 70% be better for the battery health?
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
I didn't want it to charge during the test. I vary the limit to whatever I need on the day
@dirtytrucker08
@dirtytrucker08 5 лет назад
Why don't they have an app to control that?
@MrAndrew941
@MrAndrew941 5 лет назад
Can’t believe there is no app, my Nissan Leaf has an app, I do want a kona but very disappointing there’s no app.
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Andrew, totally agree it's a flaw in the software design, too many things need the car on to work or access data.
@SvikDK
@SvikDK 5 лет назад
And strange, since it´s the same hardware as in the Korean model. I own a Niro, and the reason that don´t have app support is a difference in hardware. So this is really strange and sad :(
@therandomtester9561
@therandomtester9561 5 лет назад
In Korea they have app for Kia and Hyundai, but not in Europe.. Living with the Leaf for 3 years, the app is a great feature, but for sure no dealbreaker. It was (one of) the reasons why I chose Leaf over Soul that time, but realy I don't use the app that often.. Even in -15C, the car heats up so quickly you kind of don't need it anyway.
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
It'd be nice just to check the range on the car and set charging times without going outside
@HVG67
@HVG67 5 лет назад
Is this feature on all the versions?
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Yes
@HVG67
@HVG67 5 лет назад
@@EVPuzzle great, I'm sure I'll be happy stepping into my defrosted car in the mornings!
@barygol
@barygol 5 лет назад
Can you precondition the car from a phone app?
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
I discuss this in the video
@therandomtester9561
@therandomtester9561 5 лет назад
The car HAS to be plugged in, right? Do you know why? Leaf does not have to be plugged in, Tesla and VW the same. Not sure about the other cars though. It's not like you run out of battery on a short preheating, 10-15 min on the old 24kWh Leaf takes max 10% in really cold weather. And by that time it's pretty toasty even in -10/-15C.. Also, does it run the heatpump while heating? Strangely enough, on the old Leaf it only uses the PTC-element while on preheating. When the heatpump (or AC) starts up, you can hear a whine under the bonnet, but you'll never hear that while on preheating the old Leaf.. On the old Leaf, if not plugged in it will preheat for 15min I believe it was. When plugged I think it was something stupid long like 2 hours or something..
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Sorry Im not sure about heat pump. I guess whatever is most efficient as that seems to be Hyundai's theme. Yes MUST be plugged in Why is the big question. I suspect it's the same reason we can't see or set the EV settings/ data without the car being turned on.
@therandomtester9561
@therandomtester9561 5 лет назад
I didn't know about the heatpump not being used on the Leaf until I "incidentally" read it myself about a year ago (not in the manual of course..), so I don't blame you for not knowing ;) Just for a future test of yours. I too thought it would use the most efficient as it does when driving. It can run heatpump while standing still and turned on, so why shouldn't it while preheating? But that's how it is on the old Leaf.. I don't see that the car must be turned on to set timer to be any reason for the need of power to preheat. That's only the matter of starting up the correct screen so you can change the settings. I've never set a timer on my Leaf, but I believe you have to "start the car" there as well, if not using app of course. Plugged in or not, the heater should, and could draw the energy from the battery either plugged in or not.. If it couldn't, it wouldn't be able to heat while driving either. And when Nissan and VW makes it possible, so should Kia/Hyundai. But then again, Nissan says it's not possible to make steeringwheel adjustable lenghtways in the Leaf because of something, while "all other" EV's can.
@abandonedtube
@abandonedtube 5 лет назад
I3 doesn't have to be plug in, even has a precondition button on the keyfob, so don't even have to open the car or use the app.
@therandomtester9561
@therandomtester9561 5 лет назад
@@abandonedtube that's the best way. I think the E-NV200 has a button on the keyfob as well, but the Leaf funnily does not, even though they have the same fob..
@topherut
@topherut 5 лет назад
Disappointed to see that the preconditioning can not be set remotely from your smart phone. Also not sure if you mentioned that preconditioning is beneficial to warm a cold battery which will reduce consumption when the trip starts.
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Chris, preconditioning only warms the interior , not the battery.
@SvikDK
@SvikDK 5 лет назад
Doesn´t it have app support ?
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 лет назад
Think you need to watch the video again
@ateeqn1985
@ateeqn1985 5 лет назад
Wow, disappointed that there isn't an app for the Kona to charge😭
@ladayblues6759
@ladayblues6759 4 года назад
ateeqn1985 there is its blue link
@Jegrygerfede
@Jegrygerfede 3 года назад
There is
@ragn3852
@ragn3852 2 года назад
@@ladayblues6759 does it work for the 2019 kona?
@ladayblues6759
@ladayblues6759 2 года назад
@@ragn3852 yes I have the 2019 Kona you can lock, unlock, turn on whatever :)
@ragn3852
@ragn3852 2 года назад
@@ladayblues6759 What about turning on aircondition?
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