Kondo-Culture: The Fall of the House of 'Stuff' 

I have started folding all my clothes with care, according to the advice from the book, and my purchase of clothes has gone way down. Simply appreciating my clothing drives down my need to consume it. While I've been purchasing second hand for a while now, folding mindfully has helped me cut back on the amount I have

ah. It is in the deliberate care, rather than the spectacle.

I write half-paragraph reviews in the tags on my MAL. This helps me think a bit more about how i felt about the thing, and also makes the list ideal for showing somebody what my taste is, or more quickly and accurately reccomending stuff to other people. The utility of MAL far exceeds the work put into it, or any concerns i have about putting on appearances, at least for me, so far.

My entire Tumblr lol

@@rory1336 yeah esp. with the idea that collecting some picture being a part of you now, or some way of identifying yourself

Same. Here's mine: myanimelist.net/animelist/DarkEnergy

This is why I don't like MAL. When I used it, I found myself completing shows I didn't enjoy just to have a "completed" on my list. The ratings part I especially dislike, but that's kind of off topic. If you're interested it's because my feelings about an anime can't really be crystallised into a single number, and that number is only truly meaningful to me, other people have different tastes, or criteria for what makes a 10. How much value an anime has is a very unhelpful way to see media. The emotional or philosophical impact of art shouldn't be measured on a scale of 1-10

I agree. One minor criticism I have is this video is that it is equating Kondo with minimalism. If you actually read her books and watch the show, she never applies goals to her clients. From my perspective, several of the people on the show also ended their episode with more clutter than I'd be comfortable with (and I have a lot of stuff).

Yes I like Marie Kondo because she is clear that the goal is to make it easier to live a happy life, and that your house doesn't have to be perfect but it just needs to have space available for happiness to dance freely.

I love her way of doing things! It's such a useful way of looking at your stuff and thinking about what I actually want. I love my book collection and couldn't stand to throw any out, but applying her method to clothes is really useful. I went through a phase four years ago where I would not wear jeans and I now have a million pairs of khakis. Plus throughout my life, my granny has brought me stuff from charity shops and clothing that she didn't want. It's so useful to go through everything and ask do I ever wear this, is it important to me, "does it spark joy?" If I never wear it but my granda bought it for me before he died, I keep it because it reminds me of him. This video didn't seem to actually address the actual kondo method of asking these questions before throwing it out.

I think there are a lot of facets to this conversation, about the KonMari method, traditional minimalism, and consumerist culture. I think an important part, is that the people who are the more extreme minimalist rarely talk about doing it just for the aesthetic, but because it's more eco friendly, and cuts down on wasteful spending. I think that for a lot of those people, it's more of a lifestyle choice (a lot of them are also vegan): and it's interesting to me that it's not accessible to everyone. I've read a lot of comments about people saying that they couldn't afford to get rid of everything, because if something broke, they wouldn't necessarily be able to replace it. Clothing brands that are ethical are also really expensive, and can be hard to find, etc. And in that way, consumerist culture takes less energy, and a lot of people need that. A lot of people don't have time to wash their capsule wardrobe every two days, or to research which brands are ethical. It's easy to have the cash on hand for the things that will serve the purpose... but aren't ideal. Not to mention the ads constantly in our faces- about perfumes, about furniture, about clothes. Not only promising a better life (we know that buying that makeup won't make us models with a yacht, but there's a reason that image is being paired with that product) but that good feeling of having bought something we want. The escapism of shopping. It's all made very, very attractive. And in my mind, in the middle is the KonMari method. Reducing the amount of things that you have, so you can give them a little more of the attention they deserve. Paying attention to what you want and don't want, so the next time you see an ad that looks really nice, you can remember that you don't actually like it in real life (and in that way, cutting down on wasteful spending and support to brands that sell bad products- even if they do have a good marketing team.) But also still giving yourself the freedom to try new things that you won't necessarily love, and permission to let it go if that turns out to be the case. And allowing yourself to maintain a comfortable lifestyle- I keep some clothes that aren't my favorite, because not having to do laundry every couple of days gives me joy cx. And all while doing it in a space that's comfortable, and designed to cater to your needs and wants. It's not perfect, and probably won't work for everybody, but nothing is. I just know that using this method has noticeably improved my life, and if it's doing the same for others, that's definitely not a bad thing.

We didn't need a mass decluttering until now. The internet has indulged our collection, fantasy, hobby and hoarding traits and it's too much.

thats exactly right. I didn't need to downsize my large book collection bc I already only own copies of books I love. but for makeup, I tried to get into it when I was 18 and the instagram style makeup was becoming the norm. I had some fun, but now at 22 I hardly ever wear makeup besides 2 simple glossier products and lipstick. I got rid of nearly everything else bc it wasn't sparking joy anymore. clothes as well. I now have a capsule wardrobe that is much larger than what is considered a minimalist wardrobe but thats bc I'm doing what I like, not what fits someone elses description. she doesn't want us to discard everything and fit all of our possessions in a backpack, just only keep what is useful and meaningful to each individual

Exactly! I never got why people got so upset over this whole book thing. She never said throw away your books. If people actually listened to what she says about the matter they would know that you can cover every wall in your home with books if that's what makes you happy.

Atroonks that’s not really a new thing, that’s a very old method and ideology

@@legotech101 and your point is?

All minimalism in essence, root...

Tanya S I’m not sure where you got that from. If you have read Kondo’s book or the show, you’ll see that she advocates for keeping the things that only sparks joy. If they don’t spark joy, don’t. If having a lot of books make you happy, then keep them. If a certain item reminds you of someone and that makes you happy, keep it. There are a couple of other comments that explain her approach much better than I’m doing, but I thought I put in my two cents on her philosophy.

@@Mangaluvr247 What's extreme about that? Why do you need a box of miscellaneous crap you never open? But at the same time, she makes it very clear that if your box of mystery crap you never open fills you with immense joy, go ahead and keep it.

Tanya S. Did we read the same book? She specifically states over and over again to go through each item, hold it in your hands, and THEN decide if you want to keep it or donate it. Nowhere did I see her write to indiscriminately throw things away. In fact, she says don't do that. Repeatedly.

Tanya S. I agree. Kondo is just another 'guru' making a fortune out of telling people how to live their lives. What about the joy of finding something you had forgotten you had and how pleased you feel at rediscovering it? The only thing that needs decluttering is the planet. Decluttered of 'gurus' like her!

EveLang1 Have you seen the show? There were plenty of times her clients rediscovered old things that made them happy and she always told them to keep it as long as it makes them happy. She never tells them to get rid of things indiscriminately; her entire method is to be _deliberate_ about the things you keep and throw away. She tells people to go through each and every single thing and deliberate over whether that thing gives them joy or has a purpose in their life, practical or emotional. For some people, they need to let go of emotional items as they become a burden to them, but for others they rediscover and keep them. Compare and contrast the episode with the widow and the episode with the “empty nesting” parents: the widow felt burdened by the amount of stuff left behind by her late husband and felt like she wouldn’t be able to move on without getting rid of some of his things. In the end she only kept the clothes and items that she felt were positive reminders of her husband and their relationship with each other. With the parents, they had tons of christmas decorations all over the place and they decided they wanted to keep all of them. KonMari _did not_ tell them to get rid of _any of them_ but instead showed them methods to store and display the items so they can have space to move around. There was also an episode where one dad still kept a sippy cup that his godmother gave him and KonMari didn’t dismiss his feelings or suggest to throw it away _at all_ . She only suggested to make it a decoration instead of taking up space in the cupboard. Marie Kondo doesn’t want people to “declutter” for the sake of decluttering. She wants them to become aware of the things they own and make space for future things they might want to keep.

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I've been watching videos of Disney outlet stores, and have been repeatedly struck by images of piles of rose gold mouse ears heaped in discount bins. That incidental image just seems to say so much about consumerism and desire and how it all manifests in this one, no longer coveted, tangible instance.

Thank you very much for your thoughtful response! I find the distinction between relationship and dominion very interesting.

This is a fantastic comment! Have you thought about making your own videos, you have such a wonderful way of getting ideas across!

I agree. I was sort of expecting a point pertaining to this, about how younger generations are more conscious about the sustainability and environmental impact their actions have. The convenience of single use plastics has become heavily criticized around the world, as well as things like "fast fashion," so sites like ThredUp have cropped up, as well as a rising popularity in thrift shops, whether in donating or shopping from them. I feel this is connected to the "relationships" you mention. Also that younger generations are more aware of their funds, so they question the necessity of their purchases a lot more. Hence why article titles like "millennials are killing the diamond industry" are rampant. There's a lot of questioning whether something is practical and functional; its usefulness rather than the status it'd impart being more important. Lastly, I think there's a lot of disillusionment about the "American Dream," capitalism and consumerism. Especially in the former where people are questioning what success means to them and whether that has to mean owning this or that house, car, family unit, etc. And for the latter, questioning whether "bigger is better," "more is better." I think challenging those perceptions had a lot to do with the creation of the tiny house movement.

@@make_it_aesthetic I think this is definitely a big part of it! I was just more interested in the image/idea of these ideals than the actual practice of them. There was a part I cut out that actually related this back to the digital/immaterial. That many may have become so disgusted with the way we use resources, produce waste and take up space that transitioning into immaterial spaces seems like the only way to cope. It was cut both for time and because I'm not sure I actually believe it's accurate, haha, I just know it reflects something I feel. (sorry if you weren't looking for a response from me, I just thought this clarification might be useful)

What a good read. Thank you. As PhilosophyTube pointed out more than once, we are missing out on philosophy from other cultures.

Phew, it's not just me! :D

If you're an artist, this collection of images will actually help you by acting as reference. Though I'm assuming that wasn't your intention when you started collecting.

All those political memes I collected in 2012 will surely come in handy one day again...right?

@@blastermaster5009 dont delete them, you never know!

@@thefudgestix That's just the problem, I never have had much of an intention in doing it! As the great rufus said, so what if i like pretty things.

We're having the same thing happen where I volunteer. So many things are coming in but we need more people to buy it all! I had to help some ladies bring in a huge haul recently that included a really expensive looking statue of Artemis and another statue that looks like it's made from some sort of silver. It's insane what some people are just giving away.

We've also been getting a lot at the store where I volunteer. I thought the trend would end around February -- assuming the donations were unwanted gifts, or being donated (rather than tossed) because of people's resolutions -- but they keep on coming. Slightly unrelated to Marie Kondo, though emblematic of this current societal shift, is the fact that more people are coming into the local stores as well. Not just the elderly, but also young/middle-aged adults buying clothes, and people my age (13-16). 2019 seems like a good year for thrifters and the people they buy from.

@@darhi_yis9175 I guess it didn't spark joy

The Boomer generation is now downsizing, often as a necessity, as the generation plows through its senior years. At the same time they are also having to unload "stuff" their parents collected or used over their lives. It is no wonder that all the Thrift shops are overloaded with donations! Decluttering (minimalism - relationship with "things" and identity) dovetails neatly with the need to simplify that often comes with older age. And indeed, later life is a time for reflection about identity and who one is or was, as well.

Hannah Raymond-Jones because people can be too lazy or cheap to dispose of these properly... they just pile it at donation boxes... stupid

Toeps That’s twitter for ya

My friend ran out and bought to her books. Not ask me if she's rental? No. But I'll write them and they're full of s***. The first paragraph of any book set you up for the rest of it. And I read both those books you bought. And Marie kondo is full of s***. You do not base permanent decisions off of temporary emotions. Not every human being in your Social Circle will spark you Joy. There are days when you want to get rid of your pet. And there are days that you have that human in that pet in your life. The same thing goes for what you own. You shouldn't be asking if it's Parts you Joy that's a temporary emotion. You should be asking what is its purpose. Is it helping me to become a healthy happier human being?

Grim Soul An object making you a happier, healthier person is sparking joy though. Marie Kondo’s method directly addresses utilitarian objects and how they do spark joy because of the service that they provide you. Her method is rooted in analyzing the relationships we as human beings have with the objects in our home. Why should you have a closet overflowing with clothes if you only really like/wear a handful of them? The excess is not serving you, thank it and then send it on. A hammer may not be your favorite object in your house but when you’re trying to hang a picture you will be thankful that you have one, so it sparks joy. If the method doesn’t work for you, then it doesn’t work for you but don’t oversimplify it just because you think it’s dumb

@@NerdOutStuff123 I think that you missed the point of my statement. Joy is an emotion emotions are temporary. Nothing Sparks Joy 24/7. Human beings do not operate that way. This is nothing more than a pseudo remedy for people who don't want to deal with the internal factors of why they hold onto so much things. The only question you should be asking is what is its purpose? There are many things in life that Sparkles Joy, drugs are one of them. Alcohol is another. But what are the purpose of these objects. Why were they or are they in your life in the first place? You don't make permanent decisions off of temporary emotions.

@@grimsoul9779 i think you're focusing far too much on diction, sir. It's clear that you agree with the basic idea of the person you're responding to-- it just seems to me that you want to disagree... and that's fine, just don't burst a vessel over it, you seem quite upset

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Thank you! Yeah, my favourite response (the these responses, haha) has been the tweet from comic artist Jamie McKelvie that I briefly used in the video: "So sad to learn that Marie Kondo is breaking into people's houses and throwing out all their books. (I assume this is what is happening based on some reactions on twitter)" I don't know why Marie Kondo suggesting we remove the things we don't like/need from our lives has been translated as 'Marie Kondo demands everyone get rid of everything right now!', and yet it's this mistranslation that I'm most interested in, haha.

I definitely know what you mean, but it’s replaced magazine photography for me, so I do have less junk. More importantly, because most people might not consider this- Instagram is also a place where millions of regular people who suffer chronic illness/disease/disability follow each other, creating an environment that has totally changed my life. All of the hindrances that have isolated me from typical society and those I know IRL, which you become ashamed of, have now been normalized. I am suddenly represented all over the place, in all types of people going about their lives all over the world. I don’t know what other platform could’ve handed me back my self worth so efficiently, and I started off more confident than most. I wish Instagram had existed when I was a teenager. This isn’t just my experience, like I said, it’s likely millions of users who feel this way. It goes overlooked because boring butt models intensify everyone’s body dysmorphia etc etc.

One time I pulled up the search function and the explore page directly under the search bar had a video going of some girl's lips being punctured/injected/needled in a perfectly spaced arrangement leaving "aesthetically pleasing" equidistant beads of blood on the perimeter of her lips, left in an almost smiling pout. I hope she had anesthetic for that video but it was horrifying to watch. I definitely selected the "show me less" option.

@@newwavenancy then share some account here so other people can start

I like to keep a ton of books because when I roll over in the morning I get an eyeful of my bookshelf and its very satisfying. It's like an art installation.

Thank you for your thoughtful comment! I agree!

Thank you! And thanks for sharing your experience. ❤

OMG you're right! Actually I think my WHOLE laptop needs a de-cluttering...

It lives on three different hard drives. It is beyond destruction at this point.

Also, I feel TOO seen right now!

*eyes my mod list in fallout 4*

Thank you! Oh no! :O

Did she ever get it back?

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@@janinelewis-doncontell8217 Her husband ended up digging it out of the trash when they realized she'd done.

That sounds more like thoughtlessness than buying into a trend tbh.

Thank you so much! I'm honoured to be in your collection, haha.

Thank you, I'm glad you think so!

Thank you! Haha, I love that description of 80s commercials!

Yeah. I hate how so many of the commercials nowadays are about some ideals or causes that the company obviously doesn't care about, like gender equality or world peace :D I'm almost starting to prefer the "you'll find your true love if you use this deodoroant" type of commercials.

I'm living with a family member who gets defensive even if I suggest they remove their junk from my room. Setting boundaries of this kind takes actual work. You need to be persistant, but also sensitive and not too persistent, and even present convincing argumentation as to why you can't store it if you have the space... /sigh/. To be fair they grew up in a very poor houshold, but still. Sometimes I wonder if this is the reason why I'm so drawn to the idea of minimalism.

What makes you think that everyone who collects things has 'junk'. Collections are often very valuable financially. Many people collect for the joy of collecting, because they love what they collect. Then they get bullied by people who absorb this kind of minimalist philosophy. In my experience it is the people who go on about 'getting rid' of things who are the aggressors, I've seen it so many times.

@@evelang182 Once again, you're showing off your ignorance. How many of these defensive comments have you made on this video? If your collection sparks joy, Kondo wants you to save it and even display it. No one is bullying you for collecting. No one is coming to your abode and telling you to clear it out. Well not yet. Something tells me the city might.

@@pinksalamanders You're being way too black and white and actually pretty aggressive.

pinksalamanders How many comments have I made on this video? Well I don't know but why don't you tell me? Maybe you've been keeping count. I haven't . Maybe the decluttering mentality applies to RU-vid comments too? I already stated somewhere else on this video how I witnessed seeing someone bullied and harassed to ill health and then death by someone constantly going on at them to get rid of their collections. When they died their grasping family was soon there selling off their collectibles that were worth a tidy sum.

And that's a slippery slope to hoarding. I'd be careful if I were you. A number of hoarders I've seen have had similar experiences. Theres a line between having lots of stuff and hoarding. Be very careful not to cross it.

@@fireemberess meh.

Jezabel, I am glad that you now have a place and can collect lots of stuff. Enjoy it all! You keep doing you!I'm now at a different point in my life--where getting rid of clutter (which doesn't necessarily mean getting rid of stuff) is giving me the greatest joy.

Very cool and all the best to you, also! Life is to be experienced, and having such a broad experience can only be enriching on the other side. I honestly believe that the size of the hole you fall down is equivalent to the strength you amass by pulling yourself out. The very process of doing that may make your collecting of things more wise. It would be totally fine if you didn’t want to put in the effort to ‘re-dress’ your life, but the fact that you are enjoying it means, I think, that this is a wholesome act.

Is funny how hoarding, or rather their psychology, works. Specially because your background. Hoarding after being poor is just an instinct of survival, it calls you to keep things because your experience is "I never know when I'll need this, I'll never know if in the future I will have the necessary resources for buying again this thing". I know, my own family was living in a precarious way and my parents still hoard a lot of things even after 20 years of leaving that live. Because I was little and didn't feel the same about objects is more easy for me discard things that I know i will not need in the future. Even in the "what if" scenarios.

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Thank you! Yeah, I saw a documentary about planned obsolescence about 5 years ago and I'm still mad about it!

Capuc!ne Chaussonpassion Minimalism is a radical left movement? Good lord.

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Bonnie Kuhn same! You just have to be able to be honest with yourself about when it’s run its course 😄

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Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment! I know I've already replied to your other comment with stuff I cut out of the video but I'm going to do it again! There's an episode of Bojack Horseman where the character Diane talks about her childhood fantasy of having a 'Belle Room' (a la Beauty and the Beast) and then is horrified when it becomes a reality. I think that explores the same kind of emotions you're talking about. I do it too when I walk around fancy department stores imagining I own items I can't afford to build a fantasy life I'm not convinced I actually want, haha. I haven't seen that video, thanks for the recommendation!

@@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat Replying here because I don't want to hijack Mari Ko's wonderful comment. But no need to apologize! It's always lovely when the content creator replies, especially when it's to add further insight. I completely understand why some things would need to be cut out. I feel that there's a lot that has contributed to our shifting mentalities on materialism, so it's a lot to cover. There's also some topics pertaining to this that are what I call "rabbit hole" topics (after Alice in Wonderland.) One such topic is that I believe that younger generations are more critical and cynical about commercialism because they're more aware of the manipulation tactics and history of the market. For example: Diamonds www.gemnation.com/base?processor=getPage&pageName=forever_diamonds_2 www.engagementringbible.com/how-debeers-made-diamonds-a-girls-best-friend/ Deodorant www.bustle.com/p/the-super-sneaky-history-of-how-advertisers-convinced-you-to-buy-deodorant-31270 www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-advertisers-convinced-americans-they-smelled-bad-12552404/ Shaving en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_removal_of_leg_and_underarm_hair_in_the_United_States Not to mention things like food labels. @Subliminal Origami touched on this, about how a market for "music rooms" was created. This is basically the premise of most advertisement - creating a market, "need," for products. It really does have you questioning just what exactly does one need in one's life and to what extent have we been manipulated and conditioned. Personally, it makes me feel really gross, but I would still call this a boon of the "age of communication," (yay, Internet!...which is another rabbit hole.) Edit: Forgot to add, since you mentioned "coping," that besides tiny houses and digitalizing our hoarding, I would also say that there's a definite rise in people wanting to live "off grid" or "homesteading." The aesthetic movement equivalent is called "cottagecore." Basically, "simple living," which I wonder if one could consider as another take or form of minimalism.

@@make_it_aesthetic Yes! I find the ways that advertisers are trying to get around this awareness of manipulation really interesting too. The subsequent increasing trend towards native advertising as a tactic feels so insidious. :/ Stop trying to hijack my brain! I know, it's like a whole warren down here, haha!

@@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat I find the use of "influencers" almost as bad. I think it's really low of advertisers to use our in intrinsic trust of people we like and admire to dupe people into buying products that they don't need. I know it's nothing particularly new, like celebrities promotions, but it rubs me wrong. Pretty Pastel Please did a mini series about how some influencers get paid to lie about products they promote: ru-vid.com/group/PLF9qH1Gbjf1nepLOb3PdCYd98N0C2wXiN As for native advertisement, rather than feeling like my mind is being probed, I feel like my privacy is being violated and I hate it. I always go into settings and take off "targeted ads" if it's an option.

​@@make_it_aesthetic I actually include influencers as part of native advertising but I know it's a grey area. Like, there are YT channels I really like that do sponsorships (which I totally support, people gotta eat) and they'll do funny sponsor messages, which I'll watch because they're entertaining. But that's exactly the trick the advertisers are pulling so I don't know how to feel about it! ಠ_ಠ I've also heard podcast sponsor spots where they try to incorporate it into the podcast episode itself. Just play distinctive music over the adverts so I know when to stop pressing 'skip' lol

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'Experiential wealth' is an excellent phrase!

Thank you! And thank you for your thoughtful comment! :D

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You can read The Society of the Spectacle here: theanarchistlibrary.org/library/guy-debord-the-society-of-the-spectacle.pdf :D

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just buy less stuff in the regular size house?

@@SkyreeXScalabar I can even buy a house+ regular house has more space than a tiny house (Also I was talking about the "lifestyle" not the architecture style)

I love cleaning and that is why I am minimalist.

Also there's less of a chance of a serial killer hiding in your house undetected for hours lol too many rooms=more hiding spots

idk, but. this minimalist mindset might turn into a national ideology.

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Thank you! Glad your enjoying the less film-centric videos. I don't think I have much of interest to say about horror trends right now, but I do love talking about horror so you never know. :D

@@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat That's super fair, and I'll look forward to your next video, whatever it may be! Maybe something on hate-watching, a'la the uptick in people watching things like Riverdale, The Kardashians, The Emoji Movie? sorry, I have no self restraint and need to stop.

Haha, hate watching is a really interesting phenomenon! And as it's not something I do, it completely baffles me! lol

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I'll let you know here if someone provides Spanish captions!

As an English native, I would like to encourage you! The level of English writing you have is excellent!!! And often the clutter is a symtom of other stuff that goes on within a person. Holding onto the physical when the world feels fleeting. Good luck!

I'd be willing to create Spanish subtitles!

I don't have much free time, but I'm willing to help caption this video

@@SteppingStonevlogs I believe she's the Native English speaker, and her husband is not, hence the request for Spanish subtitles, because she struggles to translate English thoughts, ideals, and concepts *to* her husband.

People will still horde trash, even to the detriment of long term financial needs. It just means it's smaller and cheaper. Problem is buying and holding stuff now versus 20+ years ago is most consumer goods are built to be trash before the next fiscal cycle. A lot of the push back is because corporate greed's quantity over quality is the default model. Even intangible things like online data is seeing it, look at the gaming industry in the last 2 years. More sales over better products and the market is collapsing because of it.

​@@UlshaRS That's what makes the most sense regarding the reasons for the present trend.

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As a designer: every decade (or year) has its color. 50's red, 80's yellow, etc. While rose gold is viewed by some as a "symbol of consumerism", don't be ashamed to like the color. Nothing wrong with appreciating the style of the present time, as long as you're intentional about what you're buying. Also, nice WWDITS profile pic. :)

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At least its digital or in cloud :p

Thank you very much! Yeah, it's like they're not even trying to hide it anymore, haha.