@@mentorzariqi8880Oh shutup! in rock music they had hendrix and cream in the 60s then went to punk rock and metal and then grunge...wow i dont see them complaining that kurt cobain couldnt play like clapton!! theres always been BUSY BEE TYPE RAPPERS AND KOOL MOE DEE TYPE RAPPERS
@@khasimabdussalaam5859 oh yeah I got to see some of the other heavy weights there like the cold crush brothers, Grand wizard Theodore and the Fantastic 5, Masterdon and the death committee. I could go on and on and I can tell you know what's up!!!
Greatest diss record of all time: Let's Go Period Moe Dee wasn't angry, he didn't need to curse, he didn't result to lame ass insults than any 12 year old could write, he took every aspect of LL Cool J's existence and tore them all down with a dope as fuck beat, rhyme scheme, and flow. There hasn't been a diss track like it since, especially not that overrated trash Ether.
I would say this was the first time that 2 rappers who actually had a name for themselves in the streets and we're on a lot of of the flyers and performed at all the hip hop spots battled. This battle took place in Harlem World which was kind of the Mecca of hip hop back then. This wasn't even a battles, everyone knew that Busy Bee was more of a crowd motivator type of emcee and Moe Dee was a real emcee that had skill and was killing it with those fast talking rhymes. They weren't even in the same league. Back then, we didn't call it rap, it was called being an emcee and what emcees did was rhyme which is equivalent to rappers today having bars.
@@dabaryammalak9265 it's not birth but battling previous to that was more like a cypher! He made it direct to the person vs showing that he could spit a good rap!! I just looked at a doc on this. It was pretty good!! One thing they did say though was that Busy Bee was more of a hype entertainer who pit rhymes and was having fun... They say Mo Dee wouldnt do that to just anyone
Kool Moe Dee, doesn’t get enough respect. He is one of the fathers/pioneers of rap. This proves it and LL Kool J wasn’t original, Kool Moe Dee was. This was unbelievable coming from 1981. I lived on 131st and Broadway and went to PS 161. Not too far from the Apollo Theatre.
I think a lot of the crews and DJs from Manhattan don't get enough respect. Everything is always about the crews from the Bronx, but you hardly hear about the fearless 4, Magnificent 7, Masterdon and the Death Committee. I grew up on 140th and Convent. I used to DJ in the park on 128th and St Nicholas terrace.
I was not there myself, grown up in Yonkers at the time. But I have records from the treach 3 crash crew, fearless 4, gm flash, t ski valey, just 4, spoonie Gee, Dr. Ice., Dr jeckyl Mr Hyde, the sequence, lady dee, super wolf, sugarhill gang, funky 4 + 1, jazzy 5, jazzy 3, and always hearing tapes from these rap battles. I loved the rap scene during the early 80s. A very special time it was.
This is my favorite kinda flow. I was trying to explain to my friends that Memphis rap (threesix) (Lord Infamous) is how rap got to were it is now and somehow I ended up here. I'm glad that I did!
I went to Old Westbury College with Kool Moe Dee. He used to come to school with head to toe leather on just like he did on stage. The baddest MC ever. My all time favorite. I still listen to his song "Turn It Up".
I didn't know Moe Dee had such a long run in hip-hop. I thought he was like a mid-80's rapper I didn't know he was early 80's. He sounds better than most dudes of the era. He was ahead of his time.
If you get a chance, check out "A New Rap Language" by the Treacherous Three, released in 1980. Then compare it to other rap songs in that era and you can see how advanced Moe Dee and the T3 was in terms of technical merit, lyricism, wordplay and rhyme structure
@@natecortese1189 Nah I kinda rushed that comment but there's a lot of people today that could I reckon, they're just not that well-known. I mean Black Thought can.
On that legendary night in New York Kool Moe Dee just thought he was trying something new with his rhymes but little did he know he would single handedly change the course of Hip Hop battle rapping and history FOREVER!!!
Paulie Tonoro this aint the 1st battle ever. You are stupid! They were battling on the streets before this. This is the first battle on hip-hop record. What i mean by record is documented.
WTTA Music Check out Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five's track " Superrappin' ", where Melle Mel says: "Got sent up for an eight year bid. Now your manhood is took, you're a big tag. Spend the next two years as an undercover *FAG* ". The song came out in 1979, the Busy Bee diss came out in 1981 so it (the Busy Bee diss) wasn't the "first rap with swearing".
4:43 This was 1981, 5 years before Rakim. This shows Kool Moe Dee was rhyming intricately before Paid in Full. Rakim is still legendary but Moe Dee is underrated
RAKIM AMD KANE BOTH SAID THEY STUDIED MOE DEE IT IS NOT A SECRET..MOE DEE STARTED THE DOUBLE TIME RAP TREND TOO..THE FIRST BATTLE RAP GOING AT A RAPPER
This was real freestyling! Especially since Moe D wasn't even in the rap battle until Busy Bee started talkin to much crap. I remember this battle like it was yesterday. This is classic!!!
@@acewilliams7917 You gotta accept new music or else you gonna be stuck in the past. Ain’t nothing lifeless or robotic it’s just not something you used to
@@Jjdhjsjshshs No, it's lifeless and robotic, and everyone sounds the same. No originality, and you want me to except that? No thank you. I'll stay in the past where there's quality music.
+Sirius “Broadcasters” Live I got "Straight Outta Compton" then "The Art of Rap" and then "Beat Street". That "Copyright Criminals" and "Founding Fathers of Hip Hop" were on point too.
+Stoney Jackson straight outta Compton was a better movie than Beat Street, but Beat Street tapped on the hip hop culture. The music, the dance, the art, and the life. Straight outta Compton was about NWA.
+skeetajohnson No argument from me. I was reaching with Straight Outta Compton really. In terms of an actual scripted film and purely about hip hop culture I'd say Beat Street hands down.
yea he lost that one there was no coming back he demolished him he lost all points but at the end of it they became friends they're still friends to this day I wish all rappers could do that
Yes.. You know who's who!!! My favorite is THE COLD CRUSH BROTHERS.. Back then they all was making HISTORY it's a shame the real history of hip hop is only known by a handful of people. So many CLASSIC crew's that rock back in the early days. Much RESPECT to you..
andrew bintang Nah my g, Papa Levi and Tippa Ire from Saxon sound system were the first to do it. Rap copied dancehall reggae and particularly the mc’ing
@@WorldEndMedia nah my g, sir william bardsville of Stratford upon Avon near Oxfordshire invented back in the 1590s. Dance hall got its whole style from Olde England. Particularly the mcIng
KMD Murdered BB!! Man I remember when this shit hit the streets we was all like WOAH!!!!! The tape was hot everyone was trying to get a copy of it. Blessings to both OG's Pioneers of Hip Hop!
i done listened to this 3 times and a row... my uncle told me to burn how ya like me now cd and i was watchin beef 1 and heard bout the battle... old school at its best
Dam I loved this was there. That shit was on a tape and everybody in New York had to hav a copy! Played on every basketball court from boom boxes. Classic Kool Moe D Harlem Baby
Fun fact: Busy B adapted that 'baw ditty baw' line from the song "Blue Moon" as performed by The Marcels. Kid Rock did and interpretation of it as well for his song Bawitdaba.
Busy Bee was probably my favorite of the really old school rappers along with the Treacherous Three. Kool Moe Dee did win this famous battle tho, I must say.
I even listen to busy bee old stuff like suicide and notice he did have rhymes. On suicide, I caught a lot of multis or what is also called couplets. Why didn't he do that instead of that burger king, zodiac shit? Honestly, I didn't know about what I'm talking about until I looked up on RU-vid. Busy could have beat kool Moe Dee!
This battle was dope anybody from this current generation trying to diss they don't know nothing about true Hip-Hop probably spend too much listen to radio
