Korvold, Fae-Cursed King |CEDH Deck Tech | Building EDH Ep7 

🤣. I can't help it. The sound is like ASMR to me.

I’m dead 💀😂

I just looked that card up because I haven't heard of it before. Such chaos! 😆

Because it destroys lands lmao of course no one hardly plays it

@@xFreSh999_ lands are overrated anyways

Appreciate all the tips. I never thought you were berating my deck. Just giving your ideas on it. It's always nice to get feedback. Happy Gathering 😊

@@EverythingEDH1 I’m really happy you took it that way. I played in a $500 budget event and played a version of Korvold that looks a lot like yours (cheaper of course lol) but I def leaned into the goblins and used some of the same combos you are on now. I used doomsday as a one card combo w Korvold to crack the pile. This strategy can def work and is super cool but I wanted to share some of what I learned and I know I’d have never figured a lot of it out myself. If you hadn’t considered it, btw, vexing shusher is also a goblin so it can be grabbed with matron too and is very good in a more midrange list. My current list in paper has gotten away from Korvold as a value engine to grind out wins on turn 4 or 5 and is now a turbo list. Uses dockside sacking and reanimating and killing and regrowing and tries to storm off w dockside or resolve an adnauseum asap. Had a game last week against Blue Farm, TNT, and Kess where they ramped so hard I was able to win on turn 2. I don’t own LED or Wheel but you can use grinding station or just culling the weak/infernal plunge w stitchers supplier to achieve the same end w breach. Play breach; play stitchers supplier (mill 3) play culling the weak (draw a card net 4 mana mill 3) use the cards you mill to replay supplier and culling the weak to draw thru your deck and sculpt your yard into a win. In fact I’ll post my list here and you can take a look at it if you’re interested. It’s mostly a manual non determinists dockside storm deck so it can give you a headache to play but it does have simpler lines too. Happy you weren’t offended www.moxfield.com/decks/HVzEPinyVk-XC2VGsEIr7g Named it Korvold Unchained when it hit the point where, believe it or not, foodchain became too slow for the deck lol.

That's awesome! Do you have a list? I'd love to see where we differ and why. 😊

Send me the deck list when you're done. I'd love to check it out! 😊

@@EverythingEDH1 how would you like me to send it to you?

@@bashlindsay7618 Moxfeild preferably but I'm not picky. Whatever is most convenient for you. 👌

@@EverythingEDH1 technically i just have it typed up on my laptop

@@bashlindsay7618 i think you can copy/ paste your written list in moxfeild and it will generate the cards for you.

It's mainy because of the way I play Korvold. I'll usually only cast Korvold when I have the Food Chain/Squee combo set up. Or, if im set up to draw 3+ with him the turn he comes out. Without him in play both those cards cost too much mana. So I opted for cards like Veil of Summer. Regardless, those are both great suggestions. Thanks! 🤘😊

I appreciate the advice. It's always nice to get feedback. 🙂 Just to make sure I'm coming across correctly. This reply is a lot to read (sorry in advance) but it's coming from a place of friendly debate and respect, not rage. I'd love to hear your rebuttal to this so I can continue to grow as a player and maybe even show you why I made the choices I did. 🙂 All That said, To answer your questions. I'm not worried about eating shit for my deck list choices. It’s part of the risk you take by having a RU-vid channel. So, not only do I expect it, I use it as an opportunity to get better (like now in this convo). Ironically the reason i have so many combo pc’s in the deck is because i feel they work well with Korvold even if they aren't winning me the game. For example. All my sac outlets can trigger Korvold for an easy draw. All my persist creatures act as a snack for Korvold if needed. And as long as I have one of those persist creatures out, casting a +1 counter creature makes either reusable snacks for Korvold or gives me a blocker that will always come back. I also have a redundancy of these combo pc’s to limit risk and allow me to play more aggressively. To elaborate, If i have 2 sac outlet creatures in my hand I can play one and have it do as mentioned above until i can tutor or draw into the other pc’s i need to win. If it gets removed, that's fine. I'll just cast the other one. Now my opponent is down a removal spell but my strategy does not change. I'll never be in a situation where I'm afraid to set up a combo early because it could get removed before it goes off. Using just one 2 card combo to win seems risky. If it doesn't work out how do you plan on winning now? This mentality is also why I like FC and Squee. The effect puts all my pc’s in my hand. I can create a game winning combo 3x. So if somebody counters or removes a pc while im trying to win i'll just move on to the next combo. Chances are my opponents don't have 9 total counters or removal in their hand collectively to stop me. This is where Mayhem Devil got a cut from me. By having cards like Goblin Bombardment, Murderous Redcap and Sling Gang in the deck i get the same effect as Mayhem. And with the majority of those cards being either redundant or Goblins I can use tutors like Signal the Clans, Imperial Recruiter, Goblin Matron to get them more consistently. About Squee and Food Chain. Like my other combo pc’s listed above they can play great roles in the deck even if they aren't going to win right away. Food Chain is an awesome ramp spell. If you have a winning combo in your hand but not enough mana to cast it, use Food Chain. Exile Korvold, mana dorks, duplicate combo pc’s ect.. to get you there. As for Squee, due to his abilities as long as he's not in my deck I have access to him whenever needed. Taking control of him is the only way for me to lose access. Otherwise he is reliable sac fodder for Korvold or any of my tutors that require you to sac a creature to cast. This also makes 1 drop tutors like Gamble and Entomb more efficient because Squee in your graveyard is basically Squee in your hand. TF and DCM can work with some of the cards in my deck like Dockside. But, you need Cards like Dockside to make the other 2 work and twin flame only works on non legendary so that limits my pool of targets. Forcing me to put cards in the deck that I wouldn't otherwise run just to make that strat viable. TF + DCM + Dockside is 3 cards for 7 mana. Where FC and Squee is a 2 card for 6 mana. So not only is it more efficient but more synergistic with all the other cards in my deck. I want to emphasize that I don't think you're wrong. DCM and TF is a great combo and i'm sure there are other efficient ways to win with Korvold. These are just the cards that spoke to me and allow me to stand out. All That said, what do you think? 🙂

@@EverythingEDH1 I only just saw this after I replied to the other partial conversation lol. It’s late but I look forward to weighing in on a lot of this tomorrow.

@@EverythingEDH1 Hadn’t forgot to reply just been busy. Hard to remember all the points but you made good ones and I’ll address the ones that stand out to me. Your combo cards working well w the deck is a great concept to follow. We call that layering or it’s at least “layering adjacent”. It is great to use combo cards that work well in the deck on their own. What I would challenge though is the power level of the individual cards. Yes, they have synergy with the deck but if you play against high end cedh decks you aren’t going to have as much time to set up synergies and you won’t want to be drawing cards like the 4 mana black goblin thing? Blanking on the name.. because proactive decks are trying to win turn 3 sometimes sooner so, yes, you want the cards to have synergy in your deck but you also want to try to match the overall card quality of your opponents’ decks. So another way to approach this is to say “I’m only going to use very strong cards that also combo and/or have synergy.” To use as win cons. Having redundant effects so you can attempt wins and not be dead in the water if stopped is a good idea and I could see why you might think only playing one A+B win could be risky for the opposite reason but I’ll say two things; 1) many Korvold cedh decks use literally zero dedicated win cons and a lot of cedh decks don’t use any at all. Obviously we have to have ways to win the game but we look for ways to win without taking up deck slots that could be used for more genetically powerful cards. For instance, some Korvold cedh decks just try to finish the game by looping praetors grasp w E wit or casting a finale of dev X = infinite so you can just plays your good cards and then they also happen to win once your deck is going off. Or praetors grasp a Thassa’s Oracle and use our own tainted pact for the win or even just kill with Mayhem devil which serves a useful purpose even when we aren’t going for it. I do use DCM and twin flame because I think the cards are useful in my list anyway; can use TF on dockside or E wit for instance or imperial recruiter. 2) we are able to reuse cards like DXM and twin flame if we get stopped by regrowing w EWit or the one you play w phyrexian mana. Of course the main recursion effect is Breach. Squee and foodchain are not good cards relative to cards in the card pool at large. They aren’t, generally, as good as mana vault for instance. And the DCM twinflane combo doesn’t cost 7 mana. As long as you have any creature in play it’s only 5 mana. You don’t have to play a dockside then copy it you can just cast it on a dork. As for cards kinda being good only w dockside out.. that’s a good point but in my list, for instance, I won’t keep a hand that doesn’t get me to a fast dockside and I actually think TF has plenty of use outside of that but I would also not argue w excluding this A+B combo. Because you actually don’t need it. Once you start going off w the deck you can cobble a win together without it. Or just play M Devil as a hard win. Having blockers and worrying about combat is not a huge thing in cEdh Korvold because games rarely end from combat and the ones that might will give you a chance to play Korvold who is a nasty threat in cEdh. Damn. Out of time. Prob enough here anyway. I see your points and I would only say maybe consider what your roll is gonna be in the meta. If you are proactive and trying to win fast then see if you can win consistently by turn 3 against other powerful decks and if not then you prob won’t be the fast combo deck in cEdh. Good talk Gotta run for now 🖖 namaste homie

I like the sound tbh lol