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Kosen Judo was a refinement of Kodokan Judo that was developed and flourished at the Koto senmon gakko technical colleges in Japan in the first half of the twentieth century. Kosen Judo's competition rules allowed for greater emphasis of ne-waza (ground techniques) than in mainstream judo and it is sometimes regarded as a distinct style of judo. Today, the term Kosen Judo is frequently used to refer to the competition ruleset associated with it that allows for extended ne-waza. Such competition rules are still used in the shichitei judo and nanatei judo competitions held annually between the seven former Imperial Universities.
Kosen is an abbreviation of Koto senmon gakko, literally 'Higher Speciality School', and refers to the Colleges of Technology in Japan that cater for students from age 15 to 20. The Kosen schools started holding inter-collegiate judo competitions from 1914. The rules of a Kosen judo match were mainly Dai Nippon Butokukai and Kodokan rules prior to 1925 changes. However, the differed in that they asserted the right of competitors to enter groundwork however they wished and to remain in it as long as they wanted. The rules allowed for a more tactical style of newaza to develop and the style was developed under the influence of judokas like Tsunetane Oda and Hajime Isogai.
Unlike mainstream Kodokan competition rules, Kosen rules allowed hikikomi (pulling-in), enabling competitors to transition to ne-waza by dragging their opponent down without using a recognised nage-waza (analogous to pulling-guard). This was exploited by some teams that matched their less skilled students against the more skilled students of the rival teams, aiming at a draw in ne-waza. To achieve victory under the judo rules of the time the judoka had to score ippon as there were no intermediate scores, or a draw was declared at the referee's discretion.
The changes made to the mainstream Kodokan competition rules made in 1925 were largely a reaction to Kosen competition's emphasis on ne-waza. As opposed to earlier ruleset, transition to groundwork was limited by much stricter rules and by 1929, yusei-gachi rule was introduced to end draws in matches. However, Kosen schools continued to hold interscholastic tournaments with former rules.
Differently to modern Judo rules leglocks were allowed. Leglocks started being prohibited by Kodokan rules in 1914 in shiai and randori as well. By 1925 all joint-locks except elbow locks were totally prohibited together with neck cranks. Kosen rules being the Kodokan rules derivative did not allow leglocks absolutely.
Kosen judo, as a distinct style focusing training towards the Kosen ruleset, flourished in the Kyoto region until around 1940. The style and the peculiar ruleset is still studied for "Seven Imperials Judo" (shichitei judo / nanatei judo) tournaments of (former) Imperial Universities and is taught especially in Kyoto.
There has been a resurgence in interest in Kosen Judo in recent years due to its similarities with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

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@225jay7
@225jay7 3 года назад
I'ma bjj purple belt who just recently started judo ... I remember starting judo simply because I got tired of pulling guard and pluss my takedowns sucked ... Any how I looked up some places and ended up finding a really good school.. i actually didn't really know much about judo I didn't even know there was different styles etc..... Fast forward I go for my first day , and I remember saying to myself ," wait,..wtf this is jiu jitsu" ... So,,, oblivious to the ground work that was being done I asked my sensei why were the students rolling ... He said this is kosen judo and he went on to explain to me everything ... I stood there in shock of what was going on because I was seeing everything from moves & techniques that resembled bjj ...not gonna lie I figured when I rolled I would butcher these guys because there ground game wouldn't be up to par like mine because of my bjj back ground .... Well , I got my ass handed to me! , I remember thinking no way so I rolled a few more times I did decent with one guy but the other guys gave me hell with constant pressure , strong ass gorilla grips , and aggressiveness & a pace I wasn't used to ...not knocking on my self but I've won Naga tournaments , grapplers quest tournament and also a bunch of other local tournaments and have rolled with pretty solid bjj guys ... But these guys from my kosen school bring a different game , and some of my buddies from bjj showed up to our judo school and after rolling with the guys some of my bjj friends joined the club and the other ones still drop in here and there for like open mat ... However they developed a whole new respect for kosen judo after they experienced it , I've adapted now and and now I know what to look out for etc & my instructor is a 4th degree (Dan) black belt and he's pretty bad ass and he's down to earth ... Now I love judo just as much as bjj ... I'm glad to be doing both..... TBH I'm my most honest opinion it's really kinda all the same shit with different mindsets and approaches ...
@k9m42
@k9m42 9 лет назад
Easy to see where BJJ came from.
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 6 лет назад
Probably? LOL They learned Judo from Maeda, a Kodokan graduate. It was NEVER called "jiu jitsu". That mispronunciation translates into Japanese as "gentle, affectionate sigh". It was called "Kano Jujutsu" until 1882. When he founded the Kodokan, Kano renamed it "Judo". By the time Maeda went to Brazil in 1914, Kano's style of Jujutsu had been called "Judo" for 32 years. Kano changed the rules in 1925 to limit newaza so as to emphasize standing techniques. Tsunetane Oda, another Kodokan graduate and the greatest newaza expert in Judo, asked Kano for an exemption from that rule change regarding the Judo he taught at the Technical ("Kosen") Universities of Japan. Kano granted permission and Oda's students continued to compete under this rule set (and they still do to this day). So, no, the Judo taught in the Kosen Universities is NOT where BJJ comes from. Both Kosen ruleset Judo and BJJ come from directly from Kodokan Judo.
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 6 лет назад
Conde Koma? Fuck off with that nonsense. His name was Mitsuyo Maeda and he was a graduate of the Kodokan, a Judoka. He didn't teach the gracies Jujutsu -- he couldn't, since he never studied Jujutsu. Instead he taught them pre-rule change Judo newaza. The way the gracies mispronounce Jujutsu as "juijitsu" actually translates into Japanese as "Gentle, Affectionate Sigh". Look it up. LOL
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 6 лет назад
There is no such thing as a "Kosen Judo" black belt. A Shodan in Judo is a black belt, it doesn't matter if it was granted by the Kodokan itself or at a Kosen University. Seriously, do you even know what that word means? Kosen means "Technical" as in Technical Universities of Japan.
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 6 лет назад
That's complete and utter bullshit. The Kosen ruleset was an exception to the 1925 rule changes made by Kano to emphasize tachi waza. Kosen rules tournaments are not "rare" in Japan, you fucking idiot. Go to the Kyoto region and you'll see plenty.
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 6 лет назад
Learn to read, you stupid ass. The gracies are thieves and liars. Oda is the god of groundfighting.
@quickstep2408
@quickstep2408 7 лет назад
Awesome! Alot of ppl wouldn't be aware that judo has these types of rules and training. Glad to have found it. It's been an interesting last couple days of youtube martial arts for me: from jujutsu, to bjj, to vale tudo, to luta livre, to greco-roman/freestyle wrestling, and finally back to kudokan/kosen judo... Phew. Can you tell that I'm looking to get into a grappling/ground martial art lol? Leaning towards judo but I really wish that I had this sort of judo instruction in my town.
@donsimons9810
@donsimons9810 2 года назад
howre your ears? ugly?
@Mitchx42
@Mitchx42 7 лет назад
More fun to watch than bjj comps where it's all in the guard and I like the aggression
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 7 лет назад
This is a selection of highlights, of course it's more entertaining than watching any competition in full. Due to Judo rules once the fight gets to the ground, they need to pull a submission real quick, or else the ref will resume the fight. That's why it's aggressive and fun to watch when someone actually manages to do it (and the footage lands in a compilation like this one in such case). But typically it doesn't happen - what's worse, many judokas will simply lay flat on their bellies waiting for the ref to step in. This behavior makes sense under modern Judo rules, although it doesn't in practical terms. See 4:19, for instance - noone would do that in a bjj comp, let alone on black belt level
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 7 лет назад
Besides, since many Judokas don't train in this area at all (hardly ever), focusing solely on take downs (I'm not hating - similarly, many guys in bjj do the reverse of that, not practicing their takedowns and only pulling guard), so since that's what they do, they don't really know how to defend against such attacks. This sets them up to be on the receiving end of some flashy actions that wouldn't work out so easily in a bjj competition where everyone is on guard
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 6 лет назад
Freestyle Judo rules allow for more time on the ground.
@sebastmorillofl7432
@sebastmorillofl7432 Год назад
Come on, that was a highlight. Use your brain friendo
@sfr7139
@sfr7139 6 лет назад
Olympic game strip everything, shame
@laluhilmi
@laluhilmi 4 года назад
Kano was unsatisfied with kosen judo
@prvtthd401
@prvtthd401 2 года назад
In all honesty, nobody said you should folloe olympic rules. The Kodokan is in charge, not the Olympics. Instructors should follow the true Judo way.
@lioravni7245
@lioravni7245 6 лет назад
This stuff is awesome. For some reason, I like the way the japanese move over the russians and brazilians, and anywhere else where people do grappling. The japanese are so strong in their legs, and would always like to be on their feet or in a control position, they stand even when in someone's guard.
@gesshugh9976
@gesshugh9976 6 лет назад
Of course they stand in guard. Planting is the base of old school ne waza. You should be able to stand immediately form nearly any dominant position. I don't train judo, but in Kudo, we use a lot of the old school "outdated" ne waza, because it works well with ground striking, throws, and takedowns. Not as good in a pure rolling contest, but does better in looser rules. It has its ups and downs.
@jeff6133
@jeff6133 2 года назад
Russians learned judo from Japanese dudes
@MarkKislich
@MarkKislich 9 лет назад
very nice...love the finish...
@HomelessNinjaKennedy
@HomelessNinjaKennedy 4 года назад
Freaking cool. So much better than Olympic Judo. Also, I love the music in this video 👍
@nevermore1974.
@nevermore1974. 5 лет назад
これは、フロアファイトに焦点を当てた柔道スタイルです。 ブラジルでは、JI JITSUと名付けられました。 魅力の少ないスポーツになった現代の柔道柔道の主催者を責めましょう。 ロシアのサンボもオリンピック柔道よりも汎用性が高い。
@branvinifilms
@branvinifilms 9 лет назад
Nice compilation.
@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96
@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96 5 лет назад
Basically Just Judo
@BernardoTorres-w5e
@BernardoTorres-w5e Месяц назад
The captions disappeared way to fast and they contained basic information and very interesting one as well .
@devriestown
@devriestown 2 года назад
Excellent
@c.duncansutherland8347
@c.duncansutherland8347 9 лет назад
Awesome!
@leandrobelchior6475
@leandrobelchior6475 6 лет назад
Queria mesmo e ver umas lutas do pessoal de alto nível do kosen vs o pessoal de alto nível do bjj
@alexandremoreira4369
@alexandremoreira4369 5 лет назад
Vai ser meio difícil de se ver,pois são proibidos a lutarem,,mas teve um programa de TV que teve autorização para participar é fazer uns rolas na Kodokan,,o apresentador era faixa preta de BJJ,,e sentiu na pele como é enfrentar um Judoka a bem preparado,,,um Judoka bem preparado tem por obrigação ter um bom solo,,e fisicamente são muito fortes...
@alexandremoreira4369
@alexandremoreira4369 4 года назад
@canal do marcão tive o prazer de conhecer e conviver com um praticante de jiu-jitsu e competidor,trabalhei com ele,hoje ele respira outros ares,,ele se matriculou em uma academia de judô das antigas,ele me dizia que fisicamente a pegada e os treinos são bem mais intensos..a pegada de kimono e de arrepiar..e de machucar, kkkkkkkkkkkk saudades do cara gente finíssima.
@harleypoppitypop3817
@harleypoppitypop3817 6 лет назад
I’ve never seen a BJJ guy able to submit a Kosen rules judoka. Or throw one for that matter.
@actionjackson5086
@actionjackson5086 4 года назад
Amen
@ramon1930
@ramon1930 4 года назад
Marcos Souza vs koji lol
@sambolife2764
@sambolife2764 Год назад
@@ramon1930 obvs high lvl comp guys who are prbly roid out lmao, now what about amongst casuals
@ramon1930
@ramon1930 Год назад
@@sambolife2764 The biggest prize which Marcos conquered was an Asian Ibjjf. If he fought with Malfacine or a Miyao the result would be the same on less time.
@tyvonable
@tyvonable 7 лет назад
i will call bjj now modern kosen judo.
@graciederangementsyndrome3669
@graciederangementsyndrome3669 6 лет назад
You gotta be delusional and have an inferiority complex if you're willing to call BJJ by something that has no direct historical connection with.
@sambolife2764
@sambolife2764 Год назад
technically "kosen judo" is just regular judo but with a more newaza focus, but yh the sentiment is accurate
@luismancilla6365
@luismancilla6365 4 года назад
el judo kodokan y el judo kosen,,# 1 en el mundo y ,aun antes del jiujitsu brazileño,la variedades de judo son muy fuertes y efectivas.
@kenshiro19x
@kenshiro19x 8 лет назад
Sera q os Gracies ainda insistem em dizer q criaram td? Q td veio de um passe de magica?Q Hélio "inventou" as tais "alavancas"???Kkkkkkkkkk n desmerecendo o Bjj,mas e muita cara de pau os caras ainda falarem q criaram td e por cima a "arte marcial imbatível" kkkkkkkkkkkkk...Menti O.o??
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187 8 лет назад
+filipe dos anjos kkk apenas verdades. BJJ tem a vantagem de ter sido complementado com técnicas de JJJ conhecidas por Konde Koma e outras de submission wrestiling que ele aprendeu no EUA, mas não vejo grandes contribuições vindas diretamente dos Gracie nas técnicas. A genialidade dos Gracie foi em identificar os 3 estagios de uma luta (em pé, clinch e chão) de forma que não negligenciassem nenhum aspecto e com isso foram vitoriosos no inicio do vale tudo e ufc. Quando os outros aprenderam isso os Gracie sumiram do MMA. Vai entender kkkk
@kenshiro19x
@kenshiro19x 8 лет назад
Procura-se Gracies no MMA kkkkkkkkkkkk
@fernando4885
@fernando4885 8 лет назад
+filipe dos anjos mas sinceramente? foi bem feito isso, o japão e as autoridades do judô tentaram matar de todas as formas o ne-waza, começando pelo ciumento Jigoro Kano criador do judô, ele era ministro da educação, e vendo que as pessoas estavam gostando mais da luta de chão resolveu modificar as regras das competições, dificultando mais ainda o jogo de chão, e voltando a focar mais as projeções. Com o tempo o ne-waza foi sendo esquecido do grande público, só com essa explosão do sucesso do jiu jitsu no ocidente que foram tomar conhecimento que existia isso, ainda sim hoje em dia ninguém sabe que o judô tem o ne-waza, porque o próprio judô e os judocas não estão preocupados em demonstrar isso, talvez alguns estão querendo resgatar por caus da rivalidade com o bjj, mas o importante é que os Gracies salvaram o ne-waza, e foi bem feito para a Kodokan, para o japão e para os mestres do judo de lá.
@uneiro
@uneiro 5 лет назад
Pesquisa sobre Fada jiu-jitsu pra vc ver uma história diferente e real do jiu-jitsu como realmente chegou no Brasil
@uneiro
@uneiro 5 лет назад
@@fernando4885 não foi Bem isso que aconteceu não foi mais por uma questão de dinâmica e para adaptar para o judo esportivo pois as lutas eram muito longas e intermináveis aí foi adotado algumas regras pontuação mas só para campeonato o problema é que as academias de hj em dia só pensam nessa porcaria de campeonatos e esquecem da arte marcial com o jiu-jitsu também vem acontecendo outro motivo de não ver graice e jiu-jitsu raiz no ufc foi a questão das regras terem mudado rounds muito curtos jiujiteiro precisa levar no chão e desenvolver o seu jiu-jitsu antigamente não tinha tempo nem assaltos era até finalizar ou nocautear então ele tinham mais tempo para desenvolver suas técnicas no solo o juiz também não interrompe a luta para colocar de pé
@baconback
@baconback 8 лет назад
wow, this is awesome!
@TheBeijingAikikai
@TheBeijingAikikai 9 лет назад
Kosen is just an abbreviation of Koto senmon gakko ... it's not a refinement of kodokan judo. It's just easier to teach people newaza quicker than tachiwaza. Kids are only in school a short time. Different rules were preserved in the univ tournaments. It's all Judo folks and YES that's where BJJ and Sambo and Kawaishi JJ and Russian Judo, etc. etc. all came from. Read Aikido in Japan and The Way Less Traveled. Detailed history of Japanese moving to Brazil and taking their arts with them.
@kigawman
@kigawman 9 лет назад
***** You are right that Kosen is not a refinement of Kodokan Judo. Kosen Judo IS the continuation of the traditional Judo. The current Kodokan Judo that was popularized by Kano in 1925 is a streamline/filtered version of what was developed in pre-war/WWI, WWII Judo. This historical truth was kept from most Japanese and other Judoka arcoss the globe for almost a century. Thanks to the internet (and partly to the popularity of bjj), Kosen Judo has a rebirth and is on full resurgence.
@mongolchiuud8931
@mongolchiuud8931 9 лет назад
+kigawman Kano is the founder of JUDO................
@kigawman
@kigawman 9 лет назад
Mr. Robot And your point is? I aware of your response but your motivation doesn't jive to my comment.
@mongolchiuud8931
@mongolchiuud8931 9 лет назад
You said Kose Judo is a continuation of Kodokan Judo, As a Judo Black Belt 2nd Dan I can tell you and you can google yourself. Kano pooled together several systems of Jiujitsu into Judo in the 1890s, besides what few NEWAZA(ground skills) judo inherited from Fusen ryu, but it was still mainly Throwing style. Its wasnt until the 1900s that "Newaza" experts seeing as how much easier grappling was to teach and master developed it more. Jugoro Kano then implimented more rules to keep the system more balanced which unfortuntely became a Olympic Sport which.....Added even more restictions. But the point is what Kano developed is different from Kosen or Bjj, and different from modern judo too. fact
@kigawman
@kigawman 9 лет назад
Mr. Robot *"You said Kose[n] Judo is a continuation of Kodokan Judo, As a Judo Black Belt 2nd Dan I can tell you and you can google yourself."* - You misread what I said, this is what I meant: *"Kosen Judo IS the continuation of the traditional Judo."* *"NEWAZA...judo inherited from Fusen ryu"* - Nope. Fusen Ryu does not have Newaza! Mataemon Tanabe credits Yataro Handa (Sekiguchi Ryu) for teaching him all of the aspects of Newaza before he taught them to his Fusen Ryu students. Judo does not purely concentrate on Nage Waza but has few techniques in Katame Waza that finishes people in the ground. Kito Ryu was that art which Kano was introduced to that particular knowledge of fighting. As you said, Kano "implimented more rules to keep the system more balanced which unfortuntely became a Olympic Sport which.....Added even more restictions." That is true, however, 1925 Judo is still the core of what modern Judo does today. I am fully aware of what Kano did so don't school me on the differences between Traditional/pre-1925 (Old School Kodokan - Kosen,BJJ,Sambo) and Mainstream Judo/1925-present (IJF and current Kodokan).
@paulojunior5385
@paulojunior5385 7 лет назад
Great Video , Music Name Plz?
@TheJONSO
@TheJONSO 6 лет назад
Rin' - 飛鳥
@ZenSlider
@ZenSlider 8 лет назад
These are mostly regular judo matches, not specifically kosen rules.
@가경동숨은주먹
@가경동숨은주먹 5 дней назад
What music??
@modasp2701
@modasp2701 6 лет назад
Agora sim, vejo o jiu Jitsu foi criado no japao.
@markd2797
@markd2797 4 года назад
3:33 that would've been a nice crucifix / jigoku jime if he succeeded.
@judozinou4905
@judozinou4905 6 лет назад
Judo soul Rei
@samsamo720
@samsamo720 5 лет назад
so bjj is a kosen judo hhhh.whay we giving the name brazilien
@28chriztian
@28chriztian 8 лет назад
leg lock is legal in kosen judo?
@papo507
@papo507 8 лет назад
it's kosen not kodokan, of course it's legal.
@28chriztian
@28chriztian 8 лет назад
Thank you
@mariamamart8086
@mariamamart8086 4 года назад
All Chokeholds and Joint locks incluiding all takedowns that exist !!!!! 👌🤙💪 🤓🤓🤓
@MeroGrumble
@MeroGrumble 3 года назад
@@papo507 Leg locks have been banned in judo (kosen ruleset included) for about a century.
@vancouverrobson
@vancouverrobson 4 года назад
The roots of BJJ.
@charlesvitorio5492
@charlesvitorio5492 4 года назад
Oss 🥋🇯🇵⛩
@robertosicuro4296
@robertosicuro4296 3 года назад
W il kosen judo!
@ReddKumaJaxon
@ReddKumaJaxon 6 лет назад
👍👍👍
@pistolpaulie4871
@pistolpaulie4871 Год назад
The original BJJ
@sauron1966
@sauron1966 7 лет назад
@nicholasnj3778
@nicholasnj3778 9 лет назад
today Kosen Judo is basically Brazilian Jujitsu ... even BJJ has been refined and modified with open guard, spider guard and De La Riva/ Hiva
@MalaEstrella
@MalaEstrella 8 лет назад
+Nicholas NJ Those moves already existed in kosen judo. I myself have watched an old Kodokan vid where they did De la Riva guards and even X guards.
@johnWilliams-ke6ly
@johnWilliams-ke6ly 8 лет назад
+KingSygma also berimbolos darce chokes becuese rubber guard 50 50 guard
@MalaEstrella
@MalaEstrella 8 лет назад
Piet Jaap Jap The 50 50 guard is bread n' butter catch wrestling stuff. I have seen darce chokes in some wrestling instructionals, and something similar to the rubber guard in kosen judo material. But berimbolos? That's new for me.
@johnWilliams-ke6ly
@johnWilliams-ke6ly 8 лет назад
KingSygma look it up
@johnWilliams-ke6ly
@johnWilliams-ke6ly 7 лет назад
***** link the clips than
@tomjeff1743
@tomjeff1743 3 года назад
Can anybody roll like that on gravel or concrete? In other words something closer to the real world like the floor of a bar or on a sidewalk maybe littered with debris. Outside a wrestling mat who wants to deliberately fall down?
@JL-pu6bh
@JL-pu6bh 6 месяцев назад
Of course, look up judo/bjj vids on street fight. Against people not familiar in grappling, a good practitioner can do takedown and put the assailant on the bottom and controlling them real quick.
@tomjeff1743
@tomjeff1743 6 месяцев назад
@@JL-pu6bh Any wrestler can do that. Gotta watch out for concealed knives.
@JL-pu6bh
@JL-pu6bh 6 месяцев назад
@@tomjeff1743 wrestling is grappling too. IMO unless you're getting mugged or in a really bad neigborhood, most street fight is between casual people and end in under 30 seconds. Good takedown/ground and pound should do it, there is a reason most bouncers in clubs train grappling. Dont take it wrong, striking is good for self defense too, although for me personally if it's just one on one altercation (like road rage) I prefer to use BJJ.
@supasye
@supasye 8 лет назад
i do bjj and some of those moves are baffling me.
@robertacho89
@robertacho89 9 лет назад
I
@jakubceg
@jakubceg 9 лет назад
+robertacho89 The song title is Asuka and the artist is Rin'.
@robertacho89
@robertacho89 9 лет назад
By the way last question Do they teach judo under this rules also in other universities like Tsukuba ?
@jakubceg
@jakubceg 9 лет назад
I don't know. Sorry :(
@robertacho89
@robertacho89 9 лет назад
No problem thank you anyway :)
@dudeitsbou6938
@dudeitsbou6938 9 лет назад
+robertacho89 Try contacting Hokkaido university. Hokkaido still practice under those rules.
@masvideos11
@masvideos11 2 года назад
Bjj=kosen judo. kosen judo was what Maeda taught the Gracie
@marcioaraujo431
@marcioaraujo431 7 лет назад
3:50 berimbolo?
@tuneghost3511
@tuneghost3511 4 года назад
Nao
@wayne47able
@wayne47able 4 года назад
No
@mariamamart8086
@mariamamart8086 4 года назад
Yes !!! 👌🤙💪
@mariamamart8086
@mariamamart8086 4 года назад
Procure ai no RU-vid : Kosen Bermibolo and you'll see it !!! 💪🤙👌 Ou então procure Berimbolo Judo !!! São os mesmos !!! 🤓🤓🤓
@sambolife2764
@sambolife2764 Год назад
@@wayne47able its very much within the meta of berimbolo style backtakes
@eduardothiagomonteiro980
@eduardothiagomonteiro980 3 года назад
There is many technics considered of modern BJJ: Delariva guard, one legged x, etc...
@leaoaugusto
@leaoaugusto 2 года назад
@@kakuto435 Todas?
@maykonmartins8648
@maykonmartins8648 2 года назад
@IdkJust. não foi .Até guarda x(mae kuzushi gaeshi) ja era feito no Japão muito antes de começar ser feita por brasileiros. O gancho q passaram chamar de guarda pudim antes de de delariva no Brasil anos 80 o ashi kikasete kaesu ,já era feito pelos judocas do kosen na década de 20.inclusive,tenho imagens de treinos desse período deles fazendo defesa do gancho fazendo berimbolo passando para já pegar as costas tamanha sofisticação da luta de chão no Japão muitos antes de começar ter grandes lutadores no Brasil. Inclusive foi por causa dos judocas do kosen o motivo Do kodokan banir chsves de pe e o tempo de solo limitado nas competições de judo convencional. O motivo do judo ter ficado para trás no newaza nos tempos modernos,foi q essas competições foram extintas pela segunda Guerra e quando judo virou esporte olímpico, as regras do kodokan, dominaram de forma absoluta a prática do judo inclusive no Japão. Tendo poucos mestres que passaram a se especializar em newaza .E foi nesse vácuo que federação internacional de judo deixou que jiu jitsu no Brasil ao se separar formalmente do judo por discordar das regras e fazer federação própria começou a ir evoluindo até aprender essas guardas mais sofisticadas anos 80 e 90.
@rafaeljordao_
@rafaeljordao_ Год назад
@@maykonmartins8648 nao da pra negar, brazilian jiu jitsu é so marketing. tudo ja existia kkkkkkk. mas nao tira o merito dos br serem fodas
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 Год назад
Lol dela rive,x guard spider guard was already in judo.....there are videos of judo doing them in the 1920 and 1950s n 70s.
@chueri
@chueri 8 лет назад
BJJ came directly from Kodokan Judo. At this time, all Judo had a lot of ne-waza. Mitsue Maeda (Jigoro Kano´s student) came to Brazil and taught Jigoro Kano Jiu-Jitsu to Carlos Gracie and many others guys that become black belts too. Carlos taught Jigoro Kano Jiu-Jitsu to his 4 brothers. Hélio Gracie (the best fighter) used to fight Jigoro Kano Jiu-Jitsu too. In 1950, the term "Judo" become popular in Brazil. Many Brazillian-Japonese abandoned the term "Jiu-Jitsu" and iniciated to use the term "Judo". Gracie Family decided to be "independent" from Internacional Judo Federation because they prefer practice "ne-waza" instead takedowns.
@chueri
@chueri 8 лет назад
Why exists judo and jiu-jitsu in Brazil? because some brazillians black-belts decided to be independent from Japan´s Judo. They prefer "ne-waza".
@ArpMadore1
@ArpMadore1 5 лет назад
SRT is very effective at International Judo competitions Japanese women frequently use this Kosen technique
@prvtthd401
@prvtthd401 2 года назад
This beat it fucking amazing.
@kipallen1284
@kipallen1284 6 лет назад
Kosen Mutha@!%* Judo Folks Bless the world with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu*
@jamesgrimes5527
@jamesgrimes5527 Год назад
@jakub ceg What is the first video, black and white, from?
@bruceparker6142
@bruceparker6142 Год назад
It's interesting that even with kosen judo, there are still bjj schools in Japan. That speaks volumes.
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 Год назад
And there's still more judo schools in Brazil then BJJ gyms. That speaks volumes.
@bruceparker6142
@bruceparker6142 10 месяцев назад
Because an Olympic medalist is more prestigious.
@jpJP-lq8eo
@jpJP-lq8eo 3 года назад
Seppuku was committed moments afterwards by his opponents entire dojo and his family for 5 generations
@peterpaul9375
@peterpaul9375 8 лет назад
looks like BJJ to me
@Sorel366
@Sorel366 8 лет назад
+Peter Paul Where do you think bjj comes from. BJJ actually stands for Basically Just Judo.
@johnWilliams-ke6ly
@johnWilliams-ke6ly 8 лет назад
+Sorel366 yes but normal judo has so many rules
@johnWilliams-ke6ly
@johnWilliams-ke6ly 8 лет назад
+Ira Dutary-Audia (Papo) there is the same issue in bjj a lot of schools skip selfdefence
@papo507
@papo507 8 лет назад
Piet Jaap Jap well that is stupid I remember my first judo and karate class and was told clearly this isn't a game this a discipline geared towards incapacitating or maiming and opponent. I however trained in Panamá so maybe different mentality.
@peterpaul9375
@peterpaul9375 7 лет назад
***** bjj came from kosen judo you toothless fat midget. Hello Gracie was taught kosen judo by Japanese guy maeda. Helio then modified a lot of the moves to make it more applicable in a real street against a much bigger opponent. Any questions welfare virgin? Good. Now get off WELFARE and go get a job. Amen ....oh and try to get laid too.... for the first time. (It would be easier to split the red sea)
@BrtalDdlez
@BrtalDdlez 7 лет назад
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