@Chlorine Ha szomjas lennék, haza szaladhatok hogy szerezzek egy üveg vizet, vagy beleugorhatok a kútba. A szomjamat ugyanúgy enyhítem nem? A változásért dolgozni kell nem fejest ugrani a legegyszerűbb "megoldásba". Miért ne lehetett volna forradalom nélkül megegyezni a habsburgokkal? Tárgyalások és parlamenti ülések sora, de megéri ha nem kell emberéleteket feláldozni az érdekében? Na ugye!
I have few Hungarian friends that help me with translations. Sometimes when they cannot think of precise line, i use Google translate. By the way, thank you very much for offer, it would be helpful always 😉
They say it was about liberation from Habsburg rule, but in Transylvania it was a bloody interethnic civil war. The non-Hungarian ethnic groups there (Romanians, Saxons, etc.) didn't want this so called liberty, since it was not meant to give them liberty. The same is true for the southern regions, Banat, Bácska, where Croats and Serbs prefered to be ruled by the Emperor and King instead of the self proclamed regent.
They quet definitely did not. The only 'ethnic' group that fought on the side of the habsburgs were croatians under Jelasic, who in any event have never been under Hungarian rule.
Uhm, you know in the Parliament, Hungarian politicians tried to get in some Romanian politician into the Hungarian parliament, as they recognized the Romanians and Croatians as their brothers at that time, being slaved and used by the Habsburgs, but "loyalist" Romanians and Croatians in Transylvania and Croatia joined on the Habsburg side, and in Transylvania Romanians who were already higher in number due to many repopulation of the area in the past, they started killing villages full of hungarians and romanians along with jews, the Hungarian higherups needed to drive some units to those territories to stop the massacres, and unfortunately some hungarian units break the command and did the same, but in lower numbers, and fyi many Croatians and Romanians were felt partiotic and joined the Hungarians, but after the loyalists got power in those territories they were oppressed by their own. Mostly the Romanians wanted to clear out the area where they went through under Avram Iancu, while Jelasic was a bit noble to do a shameful deed. And if the Hungarian rev. would succeed none of those nations would not have been in any of these wars, because a Habsburg declared the war and 0 Hungarian politician were asked, there was no choice. And tbf Hungary never wanted to keep Croatia, bcs it was a Coalition in the 12nd century to have a coastline, trading, and protect Croatia and vice-versa. And in Transylvania, the government would support the Romanian rights as they were dominant in that area, you can find articles as they wanted to prove education in romanian and hungarian in the area.
@@weebanimefan7760 1.) the Parliament existed only after 1848/49. 2.) The "repopulation" is simply explained. After Prince Eugen de Savoy freed Hungary from the Turks, the Great Hungarian Plain (Alföld) was widely depopulated. But it was still a very fertile piece of land. So Hungarians from Transylvania (and Slovakia), especially those who were serfes and had no own property of land, left and resettled in the newly freed plains. They were granted land, founded new villages and thereby could flee their petty existance under the rural nobility in Transylvania. That's how the number of Hungarians started to deminish there. The Hungarian nobles, who owned those Transylvanian villages, brought in new peasants - people who were happy to live under their rule, because before their life was even more miserable. So Romanian shepards from the mountains moved down into the plains and second sons, who would not inherit anything, were offered a small piece of land. Also the Saxon population grew, Armenians came, Bulgarian refugees who fled from Ottoman oppression (and later became romanianized), Gypsies came from the South and Jews from Poland. That's how Hungarians lost the majority in Transylvania. Not by force, not by genocide, but because a lot moved out into Hungary proper and others came in.
It was not about liberation my man, at least not at first, it became one. It was a war in which the Hungarians protected their constitution which the Habsburgs already agreed to. Then they changed their mind and proclaimed that they dont care about the law which they have agreed to and stirred up rebellions and ultimatly attacked.
*Hungarian fun fact:* Kossuth Lajos was a coward. After the Habsburgs started to get the upper hand, helped out by the Russian Empire, he fled the country and blamed everything on the hungarian general, Görgey Miklós (srry first I wrote it wrong), calling him a traitor for surrendering and saving his men. For the record, Kossuth was saying this while he was hiding in the USA, because the Habsburgs' hand didn't reach him there. Hungary, while it wasn't fully independent, was just doing fine economically, and the Habsburgs weren't much crueler than hungarians. Kossuth didn't like this "slavery" and started a rebellion, against a whole f*ing empire, what had many connections and political allies, like, as they've realized later, the Russian Empire. The Habsburgs had a bloody retaliation after this, what we remember every year, much like the 9/11 in the US. We were able to keep our national ways throughout history, but Kossuth had nothing to do with it. After his escape, he kept preaching (from the USA) that we hungarians should make an alliance with the surrounding nationalities, who just hated each other quite lesser than they did hungarians. (Especially Romania.) So yeah... This "patriotic" song didn't last much longer.
@@kriszgamer0013 Can I ask you how could Kossuth keep preaching from the USA when he died in 20 March 1894 (in Torino, Italy) and the Trianon was in 4 June 1920?
Ignorant, stupid, malicious lies! You're a short-sighted, brain-dead idiot! "we Hungarians should make an alliance with the surrounding nationalities" it was a very good idea on his part, you fool! Just too late! And by the way, all nationalities except the Croats had a wing of compromise! Negotiations have been going on with them all the way through! And with the leaders of the Romanian compromise wing, an agreement was reached and a treaty was reached in the last days of the war of independence! I have the original document of the contract! Which proves the agreement is possible!
