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Kowloon Walled City, from Meatspace to Online Dreams (Content Minded Ep. 64). 

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On this special edition of Content Minded, I cover the history, legacy, theories, politics and imaginations around what was known as Kowloon Walled city, or the "city of darkness" in the middle of Hong Kong until it's demolition in the early 90s. I discuss it's significance in the realm of political ideas, the concept of the living "megastructure", it's aesthetic influence, the role of art as a form of anthropology, and more importantly Kowloon as a model of internet space and digital communities.
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Комментарии : 31   
@stalwartteakettlepotato9879
@stalwartteakettlepotato9879 4 месяца назад
The posetiv outlook and "it is what it is" attitude of the pork frying guy is inspiring. In such conditions you either master stoicism or you redact yourself.
@alexanderoflondon4839
@alexanderoflondon4839 4 месяца назад
Loved this deep dive Gio! As miserable and inhuman as it looked, I cannot help but find Kowloon fascinating on many an aesthetic level. It was like a living piece of concept art for a techno-dystopic movie... You may want to look into the history of Battleship Island in Japan also. It seemed to be like more of an Alcatraz type scenario, with an indentured serf/criminal slave population, but the vibe seems a bit similar to Kowloon with the brutalist concrete slum buildings etc.
@BillWilsonBG
@BillWilsonBG 4 месяца назад
"Kowloon walled city renegade dentist groyper"
@pandoranbias1622
@pandoranbias1622 2 месяца назад
I have always been fascinated by Kowloon. I think people love it because it was completely organic.
@wrzffh
@wrzffh 4 месяца назад
Cool video Gio. I’ve visited Kowloon Walled City park and they have a miniature recreation of the city.
@misterkefir
@misterkefir 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the episode, big fella. 'twas a banger. Cheers & God Bless.
@cannibalholocaust3015
@cannibalholocaust3015 4 месяца назад
Kowloong House
@epicninja2378
@epicninja2378 4 месяца назад
I mean it's not surprising online communities are worse than Kowloon in terms of cohesion cos I can be online dunking on a Brazilian from deepest darkest Manchester but if you start an argument in Kowloon there's gonna be literally 1000 ppl who hear it and give you a funny look next time they see you.
@misterkefir
@misterkefir 4 месяца назад
What if we held hands, walking down the dark, damp and dingy Kowloon Walled City alley.. and what if we then kissed.. under some flickering neon sign. What if.. Ahh.. a man can always dream, now can he?
@steviemalcolm1
@steviemalcolm1 4 месяца назад
Bloodsport mention set the tone for me.
@suitandtieguy
@suitandtieguy 4 месяца назад
I miss tf out of Kwa. Right before he disappeared i was talking to him about doing some promo videos for me, edits of The Prisoner for a convention I do. He really should have stuck around. He would be untouchable now. There's nothing objectionable about his art, in a vacuum it has a rather wide appeal.
@richardcrook2112
@richardcrook2112 4 месяца назад
I had to venture into meatspace earlier to retrieve my malfunctioning catmilker drone.
@misterkefir
@misterkefir 4 месяца назад
By early 1994 most of it was demolished. Demolition started in late March 1993 but took a while. Quite a lot of people were still living there then.
@Vingul
@Vingul 4 месяца назад
Are we sure it's meatspace and not meetspace? Sounds so grisly.
@sameash3153
@sameash3153 4 месяца назад
It's based off a metaphor that the internet is disembodied and the real world is bodied. That they call it meat tells you everything you need to know about them.
@joko9364
@joko9364 4 месяца назад
It's meatspace. Pretty sure Case from Neuromancer uses the term early on in the book too, can't remember an earlier example of it being used.
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036 4 месяца назад
We should all have a meating, and discuss it.
@fus132
@fus132 4 месяца назад
"Meatspace" is a term from cyberpunk/adjacent, referring to the "real world" or "IRL". In contrast to "Cyberspace", which is the Internet, but also not, because the setting predates it by a few years.
@Vingul
@Vingul 4 месяца назад
​@@fus132 I always understood the meaning (regardless of spelling obv) but didn't know it's as old as the cyberspace/Neuromancer days.
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 4 месяца назад
I think I'll stick with the less dense but still integrated and narrow streets of Tokyo or Nagoya.
@NorwoodingSkullMask
@NorwoodingSkullMask 4 месяца назад
Wait..what's the thing going on right now in the online right?
@misterkefir
@misterkefir 4 месяца назад
Sadly, these days not being on twitter = out of touch with the "scene". yes, it sucks.
@NorwoodingSkullMask
@NorwoodingSkullMask 4 месяца назад
@@misterkefir I'm on X and I still have no idea lol
@misterkefir
@misterkefir 4 месяца назад
@@NorwoodingSkullMask well.. hehe lol indeed then
@NorwoodingSkullMask
@NorwoodingSkullMask 4 месяца назад
@@misterkefir thanks for the explanation hehe
@misterkefir
@misterkefir 4 месяца назад
@@NorwoodingSkullMask I mean, I would explain, but I don't know either :3
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