@@cheomgi5912 90% of them literally would get plastic surgeries if they were allowed bruh. theres alot of of idols who came forward bcs they want surgeries for their own face but the company didnt allow them to do it
@@subakuyu2608 are you new to kpop? idols have come out and said that companies often make trainees get plastic surgery to debut. imagine you're 15, 16 and have been working so hard and want to debut. getting plastic surgery is not something you came up with by yourself but something the company is telling you you "need" to do to debut. even if they ultimately are the one saying yes, they are often children being convinced by companies that it's something they need
This is the first time I've seen netizens PRAISING someone for getting surgery Great Video 🙃 Edit: I get that all of you have different opinions but this is a ✨ lighthearted ✨ comment that you guys shouldn't take srsly
@@sleepytaters5038 but it’s actually hated by international fans they thought idols who got plastic surgery (like 90% of them) are fake visuals and etc. if ps is not a problem and every kpop fan is ok with it then why would some idols hide the fact they got ps? And I remember park bom getting soo much hate for many ps and botox,now nayeon got accused of botox
@Itz MEdzy 💕 yeah ppl are hateing nayon,for getting her bunny teeth removed 😭 but if you look in the comment section ppl who have/had bunny teeth explained how bunny teeth hurts but some ppl still ignore it.
Yessss they definitely all do!! That's something similar to what I said the other day on Instagram. It's absolutely very true because the idols that needed or wanted to get plastic surgery they were and still are very pretty and beautiful
I know it’s normal over there, but I don’t believe in plastic surgery at such a young age. Edit: just because I don’t believe in it doesn’t mean I’m hating on them. I get why they do it, the industry and standard is brutal. If you are constantly being judged on looks and see plastic surgery ads everywhere, you’re bound to get insecure. I would have gotten PS in high school if I could bc of all the bullying I received. However I’m glad I didn’t because those people were truly irrelevant in my life and I love how I look now. And I can just not believe in it, my belief isn’t facts, it’s just an opinion.
@@chikennuggie4677 minji had plastic surgery before she debuted.. and she debuted when she was 18. meaning she had plastic surgery before then.. how is that not young? even 18 is young, your face is still growing and changing wtf are you saying
I think that the kpop industry should really accept the natural beauty of the idols and stop focusing too much on beauty and it's standards.. Rather focus on their skills
Yes people forget about her jaw surgery everytime. She literally changed from \/ to \_/ this I am not hating -_-. Alot of people take everything as hating. But there is alot of difference from pre debut, iz*one and Ive. It's not just lips it's full face.
@@yasmeen9799 A lot of that is baby fat. My face changed a lot and many ppl have the same. Although jaw shaving is common in Korea and she might had that but her face looks a lot different bcz of face fat too which she has shed now
@@Phoenix.219 yup about face fats I agree But her chin was obviously sharp + jaw When she used to smile it was making her chin more sharper But now her jaw and chin is completely different.
@@Phoenix.219 She was having a long face but now it's small Her chin used to be forward now it's backwards which makes her face small. Like her side profile was like this from nose tip to chin: | Not it's like this /
@@yuqi_cottage333 when an idle becomes a full adult, so 21, or 25 because that's when the brain is done growing, and they want to get plastic surgery I'm fine with that, I'm fine with adults making choices that will permanently alter their bones, and their face. But when kids sign with Kpop companies, it's commonly understood that they're signing away their face too, they can be forced to do a ton of surgeries to make the company happy, that should be illegal, to pressure kids into life-changing sometimes dangerous procedures, you think that's totally okay, you are a disgusting human
@@yuqi_cottage333 and lastly, doing this when they are kids is done to try and keep it a secret. It's done to make it look like it just happened over puberty when they grew up, to make it look like their faces just naturally changed as they got older. Tons of Koreans and Kpop fans believe this, that their surgery is just them growing up because they got it done so young when their face was still changing. That's gross.
@hallesinclair5174 I know pressuring is bad but most of the idols here got done it before And like minors there can only do eyelid and lips nothing else And our physical body nearly stop developing after 17-20 And brain develops slowly after 15 according to science Their brain is 90-95 developed that time They ain't that stupid
@@jenjaneXruby literally the kpop people or humans who spent their most of their time in the internet to criticize kpop idols and comparing them with their biases
Yes they are! I'm so happy people are finally starting to accept that! They should be allowed to live their lives and not treat kpop idols as if they can't do something to take care of themselves because they need to medical or just want to do something to enhance their beautiful features that the idols already have
@@yessica5231 Jesus wouldn’t happy at all really idols ? Search up what that means it’s ridiculous how half of you worship them as a God, While they are small and God is big. Repent and seek God, Your gods here is not your entire happiness.
I am so glad we are getting to be more honest about plastic surgery. People who vehemently deny that their idols got plastic surgery are delusional, every idol ever (besides a few but idc to talk abt that rn) has gotten some sort of surgery to enhance their beauty, and it’s better to be honest about it rather than to spread unrealistic beauty standards
I don’t understand why it matters to y’all what other people do with their bodies. It’s very obsessive and weird. And saying that all idols have gotten surgery before when you don’t even know them is weird. At the end of the day it’s really not your business. Y’all are so entitled.
@@tired6971 You seem to hear only what u want to hear. She obviously doesn’t mean every K-pop idol has gotten surgery, she mean most/the majority. You act as if we are insulting them by pointing this out when that is not the truth. Whenever people wanna state their opinions people always call them obsessed. It’s ridiculous really.
@@tired6971 it matters to me because they are literally "idols", they are role models for all types of people including young insecure people. it's harmful for them to pretend like they get no work done because it sets unrealistic beauty standards
@@hahahaho9497 in Korea is NORMAL AND COMMON to have plastic surgery since you're a teenager, and not only in Korea, in USA you can too since 12 years old if you have your parnt permission. Bella Hadid had her nose done when she was 14.
@@hallooos7585 I don’t think it was forced, many ex-idol and ex-trainee said they are sometimes suggested to have some works done (they may refuse) but many times it’s the idols themselves who wanted to have some works done to upgrade their looks. It’s obviously because the high competition and very specific beauty standards in Korea. Even though some fans cannot accepted that their idol really choose to alter their looks to feel more confident and open more opportunities. Sakura for example did PS prior in Japan (when she is still in AKB48) and again before debuting in Korea, last one is before she debuted in Le Sserafim. It works though, she is always known for her pretty looks back in AKB48 and in Korea. Although I do think her old nose looks more natural and better than the last one (yes even the nose she had before this last one already being altered).
I'm not shocked that they already get a plastic surgery at a young age. my english teacher once told us that she had a friend that is also a teacher and once go to korea to teach there for temporary, her friend told her that she had a 9yrs old student that already got a plastic surgery.
And remember,in K-pop community they will praise you when you got a successful plastic surgery,but they also will make fun of you or hate on you because your plastic surgery failed.😃
See i am all for support of idols but at the same time, i felt kinda icky. Praising minji for having a natural nose job and saying that winter's orginal nose blocked the beauty of her facial features? It feels kinda off.
idk The person who made this video is literally spitting their own opinions In the name of " according to netizens " ... because i've never seen Netizens praise idols for being visuals.. its mostly hate comments lmao
That is not Winter in the first picture but a random girl. There are a lot of pictures and videos of Winter pre debut and she was never overweight and her nose didn't look like that.
I'm probably gonna get yelled at because of my opinion, but i honestly don't care if idols have plastic surgery. As long as they're not being forced and they're legal age (since i live in the uk, i see legal age as 18 so...) its fine. I also hate it that people try and insult idols because they're fake and therefore they're not pretty. Like, come on, your favourite idols probably have had plastic surgeries done on them too, many even, and thats ok. It doesn't matter if "they're fake" because news flash: YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO KNOW THEM PERSONALLY, so who cares if they're "fake". Not saying this video had rude intent, just wanted to share my opinion (although i know for a fact that some angry stan is going to reply saying some dumb crap but eh, i can't stop them)
its annoying how everyone is getting lip fillers now...there were so many idols with thin lips during 2nd and 3rd gen, but now everyone got bratz lips, because of that i feel inferior since i have thin lips :/
To be brutally honest the 3rd one was the only one that genuinely looked better IN MY OPINION, but the first two literally looked like unique dolls before the surgery
That is not Winter that's a random girl. There are a lot of pictures and videos of Winter and she was never overweight like the girl in the picture and she never had such a big nose. One simple Google search will prove you wrong
i’m being so fucking fr rn i truly believe they just grew into their features bc i’m an example of having my features “change” as i got older,, the changes in their face are not that crazy so that’s why i’m saying this
honestly i don't think there's any problem with plastic surgery but it shouldn't be normalised to the point people get it done to look like someone famous. especially since idols always go for expensive surgeons and not everyone can afford it.
its so funny seeing the commenters disagreeing when its not even their face to decide whether its bad or not. mind u, koreans value visual alot in their country. kids there even get plastic surgeries as bday gifts from their parents
Since many idols gets criticized for it and since that’s a problem, people tell them they didn’t have surgery to stop criticism about the idol here U go
Actually the ps were actually very will done because it's very natural looking and not too drastic especially wonyoung!! Lip fillers really enhances her facial features
Especially not wonyoung??? Bruh! You must not have stanned izone then lol. Pre-debut days of ive she went off the grid for some time, then came back on insta with a fully new look and I couldn't even recognize her. Had to double check it was still her account.
Unpopular opinion but these feel so unnecessary. Like, they’re kids! I feel like given time and good self-care, they’d grow into their features. Especially Minji and Winter. Wonyoung was already stunning. Over lining her lips can achieve the same results as fillers but I’m glad they weren’t shamed for their decision. I just wonder how many idol trainees have autonomy over such decisions. Hopefully the parents and kids themselves made informed decisions.
@@jjanep Because at first nobody knew what Winter looked like she was the ace card of SM so people started sharing pictures of random girls and starting rumors but now u can find a lot of pics of her teenager and kids years
The music in this (after intro) is right here for y'all: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LyCE1QcLoBU.html Multiple music pieces have those sung parts because they are no-copyright samples A long while ago I was going CRAZY trying to figure out exactly where it could be found because any answer I saw was never THIS version. Finally a comment pointed me in the direction of this and my search was concluded. So here I am to shorten the search for you :)
@@cotton5081 Unfortunately, it's not really a full-on "song," just a few minutes of music total set to vocal samples. They didn't name stuff, just called it "kpop music volume 1" or something
there's people that want to do surgery for themselves, no one should be forced to stay ugly and insecure because ''you should not change yourself''. you probably (i hope) wash your teeth twice a day, it make you being unnatural too
@@yummyeon its sad that incompetent snowflakes these days can ever think brushing teeth is the same with bloody surgery. So you make surgery for yourself because you hate yourself that much, ancestors gonna cry in the grave. Just how low this generation can be fallen.
Why is it so normalized to debut literal middle schoolers and make them get plastic surgery the second they turn 18? Stans have become delusional to the point of accusing actual, sane people of literally anything, from being a "hater" to being straight up jealous, just because we point out the absurdity in all of this. When I was 18 I couldn't even work full time without becoming an anxious, sleep deprived zombie and these companies are forcing 14 year olds to work the clock like court jesters. What is wrong with people these days, why is it so wrong to just wait until idold become adults?
Regarding Wonyong Actually the netizens hate her surgeries& criticize her for being artificial ; they didn’t appraise her.. It is maybe the media & press which appraises her plastic surgeries!!
@@Em-nu2dt eyelid surgery if I'm not mistaken. Her face had changed compared to her predebut izome days. She has done alot of subtle touches. You can look it up yourself. It ain't rocket science to do that. Koreans do be crazy abt plastic surgery than you could have imagined.
not for minji, he didn't have plastic surgery because there were already witnesses, namely his friends and teachers, who said that minji had always had such a good face
Literally none of this is confirmed, and netizens weren't praising the plastic surgery, netizens were just saying the girls are pretty. Stop spreading rumors.
in the aespa group, 3 participants have undergone a lot of operations beyond recognition, ningning is the only one who has not changed at all since pre-debut, except that she has become more mature
It’s not. Noses don’t really change after you hit 12 and there are no fat cells in the nose so there is no way for it to shrink or enlarge. Bones also don’t change as you get older so after the nose matures, you will have the same nose even if you gain or lose weight. You can see the tip and bridge of her nose are more defined. She had a nose job. It actually looks like she has a silicone implant.
