Kratom ban news- DEA announcement, detox, withdrawal talk. Kratom listed as schedule one drug 

legal drugs are more addictive than this herb. How many people have died from smoking? How many people have died from drunken driving? Legal painkillers? Are they making those things illegal? Hell no!😣 So hypocritical and typical.

I hope this video is banned.

I have never had withdrawal from kratom. I grow them (grew them I guess, soon) and munch a leaf or two when my back goes out and I'm yelping in pain. It works well and doesn't make me sleepy or dopey like the pills that offer the same level of relief. I am sad that I have to get rid of my plants that have helped me. I am not sure why I don't have the right to grow and eat whatever I want when I am in pain. Why don't I have the right to make my own medical decisions? 10 grams a day is 40 leaves or more I can't even imagine munching that many leaves... they are so bitter! Schedule 1 drug means that there is no medical use, only abuse. I have never abused it once. Kratom is just a nice tree that I thought would be handy to always have around... and it has been. Every neighborhood should have a tree that people who are in pain can munch on if it would help them.

I can't take anything for pain because I was addicted to opiotes for 10 years for pain, and benzos for for anxiety for 7 years, plus alcohol for 12 years, almost died from it, so here I am now 8 months clean in excruciating pain from motocross crashes but I love my life and I'm glad you love yours, in my prayers bro :) you can do this!

You are NOT helping by saying words like "addictive" or "drug". Kratom saved my life. I researched Kratom for 3 months before ever taking Kratom. This video is not helping the cause.

Thanks for your honesty, and telling your story for the rest of us to understand this problem I've never heard of.

Peope will die from this ban.

First off, kratom is not an opiate, so don't be upset when people say "it's not an opiate" Second off, you do have a "druggy personality" if you found yourself addicted to kratom.

I have a sister that was abasket case spending over $700/ month on prescriptions and Kratom gave her her life back and your talk right here is helping to put her back into her former miserable life. Maybe you just feel like shit because you're aging

some of us need to be medicated regularly for the rest of our lives. kratom is much better medication than Big Pharma's "solution." So you had some restless leg when you didn't have it. I take 5-10 grams a day and my dosage has never varied from that. withdrawals are mild compared to actual opiates. side effects are rare and mild. I'd rather be dependent on kratom than on Oxycodone. any day and every day.

Kratom literally saved my life from the grips of licensed drug dealers with white coats and degrees. After 3 years on suboxone after a 15 yeah H habit, Kratom took away all of my withdrawals when I came off the subs and I was able to function normally. Now one year later I am off the Kratom and have my life back...and the withdrawal from kratom is like the withdrawal from coffee if you slowly taper down. Bottom line with the DEA and government: If you heal a customer, you lose a customer. Greedy sick bastards!

..I have watched videos of folks who detoxed off of caffeine with the same issues.should we ban coffee?

With all due respect, the way you describe this is that you developed a physical dependence, rather than an addiction. The two terms are not interchangeable.

Thank you for sharing this, brother, I was honored to hear you share your personal experiences from a heart centered place.

Thank you for sharing your experience. I've been a kratom user for about 10 years, fixed at about 15-20 grams per day. Luckily, my 'detox' hasn't been that bad; I've simply been keeping a chart of my usage and over the last 4 days have dropped from my prior usage to about 3 grams per day. Quitting cold turkey from daily use is pretty horrible to be sure. Those using the extracts are in for the worst of it, but users who have only been consuming leaf, don't worry! Just be sure to slowly step down until you land in a good place. I've quit a few times over the years just to understand what is involved and I'm glad I did as this forced detox has been perfectly pleasant. Thanks again, Exoman, for your personal experience and hang in there!

You totally lost all credibility when you mentioned drinking vodka with kratom! You Don't drink alcohol when using kratom.

You're a brave man Exo. Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm sure it was cathartic to talk about what you are experiencing and to warn others of the dangers of this herb. God bless you and your family. You all are in my prayers.

different strokes for different folks. I've used kratom for about 3 years and have never had a problem. thank you for sharing your story and it does affect people different! people just need to be careful.

What!? After taking kratom, 2-4 tsp a day for 4 years I only had mild lethargy, and mild melancholy for 3 days after stopping my use of kratom. Give me a break. Stopping the intake of kratom is only a drop in the bucket compared to pain pill/heroin withdrawl. Some people just want to make this fight worse on their fellow citizens! We are fighting to SAVE KRATOM!

Omg! you mean if I quit taking kratom i'm going to feel shitty for a few days? ooooh nooooos! How will I ever survive through that? the horror! This fucking guy☝

WTF was he taking? I used 10 gr a day for 2 years. I did a slow taper over about 2 months. I felt no discomfort or cravings whatsoever. This stuff is about a million times easier to quit than cigarettes and had zero side effects or problems, unlike tobacco and alcohol. I recommend anyone who has been talked into taking psych meds to switch to kratom. You will thank God. The dea & fda are insane and criminally dangerous.

Thanks for sharing your experiences ...... Well said & great information, luv all you vids . Fight on

Kratom stops me from having breathing issues from my afib. When I sleep I have trouble breathing but if I take kratom , my breathing becomes normal and can sleep without suffocating. It makes my heart rate go down to normal levels and stops my angina (chest pain).Kratom saved my life but now the DEA is condemning me to develop congestive heart failure.Kratom does not give my restless leg syndrome, in fact it stops my rls.If it doesn't work for you, don't take it, but for me it saved my life and now the DEA is condemning me to death.Historians condem hitler for killing the chronicle I'll, so now the DEA is supporting Hitler. Maybe we should start concentration camps next.Why is my own government punishing me for my chronic illnesses.

No symptoms of withdrawal from Kratom for me. The only thing is don't take alcohol while taking Kratom which exo did do. That can be very bad, nausea... bad stuff.

Thank you, appreciate the video!

Thank you for sharing your experience, exoman, and for sharing what might be very embarrassing personal stuff about your life. I appreciate your post, brother.

I suffer from multiple sources of chronic pain, and am a retired drug and alcohol counselor. My research indicated, right from the start, that there was good evidence that kratom was both psychologically and physiologically addictive. This man is right, there are huge individual differences in tolerance, withdrawal symptoms, and the specific conditions that produce addiction. They are called 'individual biochemical pathways.' And yes, I have a degree in biology. That said, kratom has helped me tremendously. I take 5 grams, twice or three times a week. The DEA, in my opinion, is just on the side of Big Pharma.

This was a very interesting video on awareness. You, now , come first!! With the support of your wife, your strong will and the small farm environment your live in, you will make it through the detox. I wish you the best.

I love your honesty, thankyou. For real thanks so much. If you say anything negative at all, you get deleted. It's nuts. I've been trying to get free, I've had horrible respiratory problems, head pressure, it's been rough, I am a recovering alcoholic, and prescription drugs. Trying to live clean, I tried the kratom for 6 months daily. I stopped, Damn it's been a rough month, I finally stopped completely now 16 days, I'm still working through it. Thanks again. For the video.

This was a great help to me. Thank you!

I just started today man don't b so hard on yourself but im going keep listening had stop video for that part

Exoman, thanks for sharing, buddy! I've never heard of this herb but there must be something to it being dangerous. I hope and pray that you can get relief from your pain. i have RLS and wouldn't wish that crap on anyone! Hang in there, brother!

Great story and thank you for sharing!

I was about to experiment with this drug as I just found about it on the news when they discussed the ban. I am on pain killers legally due to fibromyalgia, osteo and rheumatoid arthritis and diabetic neuropathy. I am in severe pain and am becoming addicted to the pain killers. I don't smoke, drink or do illegal drugs by choice. I sincerely was looking at these hipster kids all singing the praises of kratom and so close to purchasing some before the deadline......thanks to your honest, heart felt warning...I will not try or buy it. I can tell you are the real McCoy and you honestly care for human beings and are not a druggie, so I want you to know your video changed my mind and possibly saved my life. God bless your sweet soul. P.S. Beautiful countryside, what state is that? Fifty 2 yr lady here.....wer'e not that old yet.....keep walking, don't give up. Thank you so much!

those who use kratom, DO not use nicotine while using kratom. It makes the withdrawals that much worse. I don't know why, but nicotine boosts the effects of kratom. and when you start withdrawing from kratom, its way worse. i think kratom (for those who truly do need it) wouldn't be a bad behind the counter drug, but for the DEA to make it a schedule 1 drug is RIDICULOUS. might as well make coffee a schule 1 drug.. thanks for the video man, like you're doing, walking helps, and talking to others helps, also the withdrawals for me last 3 days, so i always look forward to the 3rd day haha I've used kratom, then quit it, then used it, then quit it, etc.. and every time I ask myself "why the heck are you using this garbage again" because for me, I don't use it responsibly i guess you could say. But the withdrawals do end, and you do get back to "normal" and your emotions level out. You'll be fine! even though it takes going to heck and back to get to that point, drink lots of water, stay busy, and eat more food than normal, it rebuilds you in some magic way haha good luck man! again, thanks for the video. it gave me motivation!

The DEA overreach was the main thing that got my attention. Thank you for that information. It is upsetting. Thank you for your honesty about your experience. I was vaguely familiar with the drug, but I have had similar experiences with a few legal substances that were more powerful than I expected, from bodybuilding supplements, to pain relief stuff. Thank you, from a fellow youtuber

thank you so much for sharing your story. My story is almost identical. I'm in my mid-forties, and I'm a fireman. I hurt my back after falling off of a roof years ago and was dependent on opiate like pain pills until I heard about kratom. I started using it for pain relief and it worked. I never stopped taking it so I haven't experienced any withdrawals but now that it's becoming a schedule 1 narcotic I have started to wean myself off of it and even weaning I have found to be extremely difficult. I'm going to get down to about 1 gram per day and then stop completely. I wish I would have known all of the addiction possibilities of this product when I started taking it. there just wasn't enough information out there from people. needless to say I'm still in a lot of pain everyday and will need to find something else to help me get through daily life. good job with your detox and thanks again for sharing.

Thanks for sharing with us.

I respect ya man, but this little plant saved my life. I had kidney stones for 2 straight years (no joke) and so the Dr's pumped me full of painkillers all day. after it was finally over I was a full blown addict. this shit helped me ease my way off of the pks, without kratom i have no doubt I'd still be an addict. I owe my lively hood to this stuff and it's a shame others won't have the help I got from kratom. I'll say it again I owe my job, friends, family, and life on this plant

Hello thank you for this video , I was about to buy some before they made it illegal. I just wanted to try it, to see how it felt. after watching this I have since canceled my order . and have no interest in trying it now. your story has helped at least one person not get addicted now. thank you and good luck detoxing. adam

I understand banning bath salts. Spice . salvia. but why kratom it's no different than ibuprofen

Exoman, I appreciate you trying to help people out with this herb, I know what you are going through and I can't stress HOW BAD I feel for you. It SUCKS!! I can say my experience with Kratom mirrors yours and I felt like I was going to DIE!. Hang in there, and I agree with you about the deceptive advertising methods used to sell this herb. Good Luck!

On the previous comments, please focus on what can help all of us. Exoman, thank you for sharing your experiences and troubles. You clearly have an understanding of some of the issues involved in this unprecedented decision by the DEA. As you know already, it has been a godsend for so many, and it takes great courage to describe what you have gone through. There have been some others that have suffered as you have, and this needs to be understood. The backlash is because of so many years of uninformed lawmaking and the DEA policies resulting ruined lives and deaths of thousands. For some people, Kratom may not be a miracle and we need to know and understand that. But for many, it has been a godsend, and we need to prevent the Schedule 1. Some of your commentators have overreacted, just as the DEA has. We need to prioritize 1. getting this off the schedule 1 and #2. understanding and making sure this is understood and a benefit to those that need it. Again, thank you. Everyone, please,. as a minimum sign the petition.

Well explained... H&K from Scotland GB

I hope that your health has returned and don't give up.

thank you so much! I'm quitting kratom I'm so scared of the withdraws. But i tempered down a lot but are still experiencing any symptoms of withdraw?

Lets remember, addiction is a trait of a person, not a thing, like a substance. Good points exoman. Kratom can be addicting, like many things. No one should generalize, preaching that it doesn't have an addiction potential. But, I think, it should be noted, the ratio of how low it's addiction profile seems to be in comparison to any other opiate delivering similar effects. In my limited experience, I've found users who become dependent on Kratom have a history of abuse of other opiates, or are aware they have an 'addictive personality', and become so from dosing multiple times per day, daily, for several weeks at least. In other words it seems to take a relative long while to become dependent on, in a general sense for a majority, but the issue is highly subjective and dependent on other factors. Many plants that are drugs, in their original, nature-made form are considerably more forgiving as far as their abuse profile, and posses self-containing compounds acting like a sort of antidote to negative effects or over-dose. Examples are CBD in Cannabis producing an anti-anxiety reaction to counter the effects of too much of its' main ingredient, THC. Additionally, the Opium Poppy plant that all traditional opiates come from, has it's counter substance, Thebaine, that acts as a stimulant. When these chemicals are synthesized, and separated from each other, their magic marriage of symbiotic pairing, an effect that took countless years of evolution, becomes useless.

I commend you for sharing a personal struggle with the world in this video Exoman. Don't let any of the negative comments get you down and be persistent on your path to freedom. If you feel that this substance was diminishing your health and causing you to not be yourself, then by all means you are doing the right thing. Sharing your experience will likely help others do the same. For those of you that think that this substance is a benefit to your life, I guess you will soon have to come to terms with it's new status as an illegal drug. I have never heard of kratom before this video, but like many other things it seems that it affects different people differently. If the comments are any gauge, it seems to affect most people in a negative way (or maybe there are just many people that have trouble seeing themselves in an honest way, and this stuff doesn't seem to help them with that). Keep the videos coming Exoman and best wishes.

I just withdrew from Kratom this morning. The exact feeling I had with Percocet withdrawal. I was shocked. I never thought I'd ever withdrawal again. I had to take .1 milligram of Xanax to get through the panic.

Thank you for sharing your experience with us! I have been researching Kratom on my husbands request. I suffer from fibromyalgia & am on several medications to manage my symptoms. I hate taking the meds but without them my quality of life bottoms out & the constant barrage of pain through my entire body sends me spiraling to thoughts of suicide, which is not a normal thought process for me! I was considering trying this but, thanks to you, I will keep searching for a natural, legal product with no addictive side effects. Since marijuana & CBD oil is not legal where I live that is also out of the question! The DEA may just be saving some people a whole bunch of heartache but I am discouraged in my quest for pain relief outside of opiates that are prescribed by my doctor. I did drug & alcohol detox nursing for many years so I use my pain meds sparingly as I don't ever wish to experience opiate withdrawal symptoms and know firsthand the misery that accompanies it.I also suffer from brain fog and the best thing I have found to combat it is to play problem solving games Not always great at first but I keep playing them until I get quicker and better. I thank you again for sharing your story and I hope that you regain your health rapidly!!

Dude your experience and points are legitimate and important. Thank you for sharing. Theres nothing about using a leaf of a tree ti be embarrassed about. But a big part of your problem was the vodka - especially combined with kratom! Take care. Hope your feeling better!

good video....and good for you calling out the kratom disciples! I quit a 3 year kratom addiction.....I was using high doses on a daily basis just to keep baseline! When I quit cold turkey it was a week of living hell followed by many months dealing with the crap of PAWS! !

I agree with you that it is not entirely honest for people to say that it is absolutely not addicting. People vary. For some, it is mildly addictive, similar to caffeine, for some, a bit closer to actual mild opiate withdrawals, and for many if not most it seems, mild to no or practically no withdrawals, or anything that would actually keep them from functioning. I guess the point here with kratom is all about relativity, in terms of it's addictive potential. I mean, I think the most accurate and honest way to characterize this where kratom is concerned is that, yes, it is probably for many, no more, or maybe slightly more addictive than caffeine, and for some, more-so though still by far less than that experienced from actual opiate detox withdrawals. The point being that it's not even in the same ballpark with those other, hard drugs. For me, I get some restlessness yes, and fatigue, but nothing like the hell that we know comes from stopping those other substances. And even that's cold turkey after prolonged, relatively "heavy" daily use. Even many regular users experience no withdrawals at all. And so tapering off in the right way should prevent any potential withdrawals, for most, if they were even to experience any at all. I think what needs to be taken into mind with regards to this herb is the benefit to negatives and potential risk factors ratio with it, and that being that it is actually very _high._ I think for most users, the benefits they get from it _far_ outweigh any of the potential risk factors, but _particularly_ in comparison with other, _MUCH_ more harmful (if kratom is even to be said to be harmful at all) drugs. Given the relatively mild severity generally speaking of any potential WDs with this plant, and the therapeutic benefits and innumerable ways in which it helps people, I think that responsible adults should and do have the right to educate themselves and make their own choices, _particularly_ in regards to this herb specifically. Other than of course for potentially having to experience some discomfort for a few days from abruptly discontinuing all use, all at once, especially when one can very easily taper off, I see nothing harmful about this highly beneficial medicinal herb. I think it should be there for people to use if they make that choice on their own, and especially for those such as myself suffering with chronic pain, and who do _not_ want, nor can we necessarily afford to take, these other more harmful prescription drugs which are BY FAR _MUCH_ much worse, in every single way, and actually _detrimental_ to your health. It is a _much_ healthier option which some people truly _need,_ and for all manner of ailments, physical _and_ psychological. Whatever side effects you were experiencing, I believe were unique, and certainly not the usual in most cases. I'm sure if you were to compare the side effects people experience from all manner of prescription drugs, to that of kratom, the difference would be night and day. I know that's been my experience, anyway. Thanks for your honesty, and for warning people about any possible dangers.

IF KRATOM WAS YOUR ONLY WITHDRAWL,GOOD FOR YOU....ive been coming off methadone withdrawls for going on 3 months...i actually had to go to the hospital 3 weeks in...if it werent for kratom,i would likely be dead

Thank you for sharing this, I was going to start my mom on this for pain but won't risk it now. She is highly sensitive to any meds, and we have alcoholism in the family so are very careful. This is the first time I heard it could be addictive. Have you tried Akuamma seeds? I just saw a video on those for pain, but I think more investigation is in order.

I absolutely agree! No alcohol or anything else when using kratom! I got addicted to pain meds a few years ago because I had a serious, chronic medical condition. I overdosed and almost died in November of 2013. Just a few weeks and nightmarish withdrawals later, I learned of kratom. I was skeptical but I ordered a small amount online. I took a couple of grams after researching it. Within one hour, I felt fine. I didn't feel high. I felt just fine. I could focus, I wasn't depressed, and I wasn't feeling the pain from my medical condition that had helped to get me addicted to opiates. Since I discovered kratom, I've never felt the need to increase my dosage like I did with opiates. I still take the same dosage every day. There are days when I run out and I only feel a very slight discomfort. It's not enough to keep me from working a very physical job. I don't ever have the restless legs. I don't get the "peppermint sweats." What I believe happened to you was that you were taking a pretty big dose every day. No one needs that big dose. Just a little helps me out just fine. I've been a full time manager at a national chain of stores for over a year and I never underperform, I never call in sick, and I never have any problems even if I'm out of kratom. I know veterans who depend on this plant to help them conquer depression, pain, ptsd, etc. And it does so successfully! It's an amazing plant! You must be respectful of it, though. Don't go straight for the huge doses. You'll either throw up or it will make you feel like crap. Everything in moderation is what my mom has always said. This is no different.

Hey thanks for the honesty in your video did you ever experience sleep paralysis? my old man is your age and we have been taking Kratom for around 8 months and he just experienced sleep paralysis a few times I wonder if it's the Kratom. I have quit Kratom over 10 times and I've only experienced restless leg but I'm only 22. My dad is your age.

I'm addicted to coffee, you don't want to be me if I run out and can't get a cup in the AM, I get all those withdrawal signs and feel homicidal too. DO NOT MESS WITH MY MORNING CUP OF JOE! Now give me a cig.

We all react differently to different compounds not sure why people are arguing about the severity of the withdraws. This is Exoman's experience and it sounds like some of these symptoms where made worse with the use of alcohol. Thank you for sharing Exoman. I have to say I do disagree with the DEA's stance on Kratom and many other drugs but there seems to not be much we can do. The best thing about withdraws are they aren't chronic. You will get through it. I wish you the best.

Thx for the vid

Well said Chris. I used it to get off a quickly growing addiction to oxycodone. It worked well now it's time to jump this ship. I never meant to simply substitute one with the other for life. It has its benefits if used appropriately however moderation is unfortunately not in my vocabulary.

Thanks for sharing... Hope the detox goes quickly... I'd never heard of Kratom before...

I had the same issues the first time through. Dreading the second time. No sleep, RLS, waves of anxiety and sweat. Weening for a few weeks is best with self control.

Should have measured for starters, and tapered over a couple of weeks to get off of it. This is evidence of people who don't do their due diligence to know how to use something. Unlike things like alcohol, kratom detox will NOT kill you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with it. It has been extremely beneficial to me. Low, measured doses and it should not be taken more than a couple days in a row.

good info ....thanx

I heard the DEA public relations are receiving calls, and they hearing out experience.

Thanks for sharing

He just did more to keep it legal than any of you. He said he suffered because of it and it should still be legal. Is there not one person who gets how helpful that is? It's not the ones that benefit from kratom that will keep it legal as much as those who were hurt by it and still want it legal! I'm sorry but you guys think running this guy down is helpful but it hurts us that want this herb legal! (Steps down off soap box)

Thank you for being brave and posting your experience. My own experience with kratom has been more positive. I had a cup of tea with my grandma every day (half a teaspoon of the powder) to help her get off the methadone she'd been taking for years for her rheumatoid arthritis. Her Dr had become concerned that the methadone was hurting her heart. And we just gradually went to only having a cup every other day, then every few days. She had NO withdrawals! ...And neither did I. So yes, I agree with you that the DEA is wrong to ban it completely ! (Btw, almond joy creamer makes it taste SOOO much better 😄)

I guess you have never detoxed from opiates? I was put on opiates (Oxycontin) for several years for my pain. I had to go cold turkey to get off of them and it took me a year to get normal. Remember, the doctors want to detox you with more opiates. They want to keep you coming back. That's why I went cold turkey. I don't wish that on my worst enemy. A lot went on in that year, I won't go into the details. Kratom is a miracle plant for pain relief. Our bodies are designed to metabolize "natural" plant products. Big Pharma's pain killers are man made & the body can't metabolize them. That is why we have an opiate epidemic in the USA. And so many people are overdosing & dying. Let me give you an example of my personal experience. When I was on OxyContin I was always constipated, it was hell! When taking Kratom I am never constipated. Hence, man made vs narural. FYI,Kratom is not an opiate;Used as an opiate substitute, kratom contains no opiates of any kind, but it does bind to the same receptor sites in the brain. It binds to the mu-opioid receptor, as do both enkephalins and morphine. Additionally mitragynine binds to kappa-opioid receptors, which are associated with pain relief and sedation.I wish you the best!

I have been using kratom for 7 years for anxiety so the "opiod" effect is not what I am after evidently because after 7 years daily use I have used around the same amount. I no longer experience any noticeable "euphoria" I recently cut back to prove a point I have cut my usage in half in 3 days with minimal discomfort. I would recommend people just gradually taper maybe half a gram every 4 days or so. I am experiencing no addictive like qualities. Just discomfort like sneezing a bit and being cold. Its just like stopping something else perhaps yohimbe.

Did you tell any of your doctors you were using it as a supplement, and if so, what did they say?

so you think you using it abusively like that is enough to take away the good from others. my doctor put me on SSRIs, anxiety meds if you will. they turned me into someone I'm not and my doctor and I got me off of them. you want to talk withdrawals. trying having brain zaps, and equilibrium issues for two whole years... until... i found kratom. i only take max 3-4 grams a day, because I measure my shit. I'm the happiest I've ever been. I've been dose free for 3 days, I'm fine. a 5 year kratom user, 3 days, not one dose, I'm fine. I'm edgy, and my SSRI issues are still there, and they are bad. but I'm fine. sounds to me your problems were being handled on kratom rather than not. none of that was caused by kratom..

I am dependant on Kratom!!! I have been on it over a year. Started it because I was getting off pain pills. I know what it's like to detox off oxy. I'm scared of this bann because it's going to be so painful. I had gotten jaundice not too long after I started. Doctors couldn't figure out why. I turned yellow and had side effects of liver damage. I also started having seizures. I have no proof that it's from kratom but I have never had problems before. Kratom is a wonderful thing for recreation but don't get addicted.

Hey man! great vid. I had a horrible time coming off it too. It took me 2 weeks to get normal again. for me the wds were very real and very scary. I've come off other sub and can say kratom, for me, was the most difficult to come off of. good luck! you'll be fine I promise.

Kratom is coffee that actually saves lives.

Thank you for your insight.. I am trying to find out if I should use Kratom for my pain.. I am in pain 24/7. and cannot take a y pain meds. Prescription or over-the-counter.. But all the system you talk about Kartom causing I already have.. When I did try it before Sept 2016.. it relieved my pain completely, but it made me through-up.. I really want to be able to live without pain. But I don't want to become addicted to anything..

Also he described the symptoms of withdrawal fairly accurately. How do you imagine he knew those symptoms. Plus the poor guy is embarrassed by it which I don't understand but I sympathize. Probably every substance on the planet is capable of harming someone. Dam.

If you think kratom is very addicting lets hope you never have a doctor put you on 3 oxycontin 80s a day to get his bonus check from Perdue Pharmaceutical and then cut you off cold turkey when he decides writing narcotic prescriptions may be harmful to his career.

How long did you take it? And at what dose? Sounds like you liked it. If you take to many aspirin, you'll get sick also. But as of right now, it's 2019 and its legal in California. Illegal in about 6 states. The southern ones.

why all the hate. my god, give the man a break. all of us withdrawal different from one another. I have never felt any withdrawal from kratom, but that's me.

There is always an equal amount of bad with the good...with EVERYTHING in life. No matter what it always balances out. With the joy of kids, comes the 24/7 worry. With the joy of money, comes additional and much larger problems. Every single one of us has an equal amount of good and bad. The poorest people in the world have the same amount of ups and downs as the wealthiest. It's all a perfect balance.

thx for the video i never heard of this kratom until 2 day ago i was in a very bad farming accident when younger now im 60s im in alot pain im watching this at 1am in morning. i work hard all my life all my joints are worn out.i watch alot good news about and happy to hear about how it help pain didnt make you high. but i believe you i more than im beleive other i was going in morning to buy some katom but hearing talk about i dont want no part of it. im not saying its bad im easy to get addicted to thing.hope you get better and sun shine again in your life.

We're about the same age. I feel exactly the same.

You might try HMBs for the detox

Refreshingly honest. I think the naive attitude that it is totally harmless to be be more harmful to the cause of keeping it legal!

The key is slowly weening yourself down to the lowest dose.

I know what you're going through and it's tough and very uncomfortable. The best way to beat the withdrawal is to wean yourself off instead of just stopping. just keep lowering the dose until you're down to practicality nothing a day. I have a bad back from an accident, falling off a loading dock. Never have I been injured before and I only take kratom once a day, every other day or every two days. Just by the way it makes me feel, I know it could put me in trouble if I was to use it on a daily bases.

Thank you for posting this. I too started innocently enough. I am already using a C-Pap unit. I wanted to try something else than the other sleep aid that the DR. prescribed. The "K" worked. But there are so many varieties of it - and like everyone probably does - you keep looking for that mood adjustment. Hence - the slippery slope towards every day.... and chasing that mood. I actually look forward to the BAN. ( Sorry - its just too easy for me to get ) .... I often think if I can just get this out of my life for a week or two.... I'll be OK. We shall see.

I LIKE HOW HE COMMENTS ON HOW HE WAS HOOKED ON A SCHEDULED 1 DRUG..LMFAO!!

I'm wondering if the restless legs is not just a sign of detox but neurodegenerative disease or neurotoxicity?

its no worse then the caffeine in coffee! In fact, it is related to coffee!

restless leg is the worst.....omg....its gonna suck....

great vid

stay strong you can beat this.

Thank you sir for this. Very good analysis. I have been using it for a year now and from what i have learned, its best to take it twice a week at most. I am still taking it about 3 times a day. The symptoms you are saying seems like you had somewhat lower quality. I HAVE TO SAY THOUGH, PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS ARE 100X WORSE THAN KRATOM. Kratom is definitely a better alternative to Oxycodone imho.

sir go to walmart or whole foods and ask for hylands restful legs. its homeopathic. not addictive and u dissolve them under ur tongue and they take the restless legs away. I've heard its amazing. i have it on stand by. I remember waking up w tingling in my spine in the morning before dosing, not just my legs like my back. I appreciate this info. hopefully you share when u are recovered , maybe you have il check. god bless

I guarantee you if you were withdrawing from heroin you wouldn't be walking around right now

you had withdrawls from kratom because you didnt ween yourself off it.

hang in there your a tuff guy you can do it