00:00 Kratos Remembers Becoming God of War 6:40 Kratos Remembers Helios 12:10 Kratos Remembers Pandora and Athena 17:27 Kratos Remembers The Boat Captain 20:20 Kratos Remembers His Daughter 23:09 Kratos Remembers His Wife
Surprised that they didn’t have Kratos mention Poseidon’s Princess, the way he cruelly murdered her was a turning point for the players, at that point it became abundantly clear that kratos was no longer the noble warrior just a murderer.
Because the murder of the princess didn't have any noble reasons. Probably why Kratos always says he isn't worthy of forgiveness, with how blinded he is by hate to lash out against someone completely innocent.
I know right, even as a kid when I saw that I was "Holy shit Kratos, all these people who have earned their place on your own shit list, and you kill this woman out of personal convenience? Even the Athenian soldier you could at least argue that "a sacrifice was necessary to open the path" but with that woman, like I said, personal convenience, not even a sacrifice.
Their are many things they didn't mentioned, though considering this is DLC they can only squeeze in the more blunt actions of Kratos, the most highlighted ones. Arguably their are more terrible things he done in the OG however i have a feeling that those much more darker aspects will be touch upon in future installments when they get around to it.
Helios trying to dismiss Hephaestus' advice to not step into the flame by saying he fell from the grace of Olympus was idiotically hilarious. How you going to say that to a man who is arguably in deeper shit with Olympus 😂
Kratos was already being uncharacteristically generous with him as it was. Helios probably would have been one of the few Greek gods to survive his rampage
This is positive masculinity and brotherhood. And super endearing to hear how no matter the intensity and quantity of mistakes, there’s always time to process and accept, sometimes forgive those moments and emotions depending on the situation. Some things you carry forever but you can at least make the baggage a little lighter by just talking it through and reliving those moments with another point of view
And the way his actions shows us why odin wants to get rid of him. A powerful being that can stop Odin but not guided with anger and ambition so he cant be manupulated. He had to kill him or for worse imprisoned him and use him if he want to rule realms as he wanted to do.
Someone already said it, but im glad they redeemed the image of tyr in the dlc, after odins impersonation, and then seeing him doing random shit across the game, made me feel like he was whack. But after playing the dlc my opinion of him has improved drastically
I am surprised he never remembered Posiedon's princess. She was practically innocent, fragile. And yet she was crushed by the mechanism Kratos forced her to hold. Her, Daedalus, Icarus - so many missed opportunities to torment Kratos over his actually horrific sins. To see his reflection on those cruel actions.
Icarus was already mad. He was determined to kill Kratos coz he thought it was a test the Sisters of Fates wanted him to pass since he repeatedly failed all of the tests he was assigned. Kratos himself was assigned several tests before the Sisters allowed him to meet them, like defeating Theasus, killing Eurayale and solving the puzzle of the Steeds of Time.
Still, I would say the boat captain haunts him for good reason. Part of Kratos' hatred of the gods is how they treat their subjects like trash, no matter how good they are as subjects. Boat master is getting help from Kratos, to defeat a hydra attacking his fleet, but he's giving everything he has to Kratos until then (the "royal treatment" with rare foods, and even a harem of women). I think that's as much a memory, as anything. He took everything from this boat captain, and then kicked him in a hole to go save his harem. In that moment, he proves himself no better than the gods he detests, for at least everyone else was a figure in one manner or another (a god, a relation to one, or in some way blessed/cursed by them), but this guy was just an average mortal I'm surprised he doesn't remember casually knocking mortals off dangling structures, for casually being in his way
@@landonletterman831 That's also who the boat captain represents. He's the face of all those people, including Poseidon's Princess: people he let die for no good reason. Like the captain, he could have saved her and found another way to keep those doors open, but he chose to be cruel and uncaring about her fate. She was right to not want his help.
I love that this DLC is taking the Boat Captain thing so seriously. Like, the real reason that happened is because that was the cool thing at the time. Strong, burly man that gives no shits about anything but fucking shit up. Edgy as fuck. It's almost weird to hear Kratos give such a serious statement regarding what basically amounted to a "joke" back in those times. Hell, Kratos would do essentially the same thing to him later in the Underworld. Although, it'd take a whole DLC in itself to recount the other numerous things Kratos did to be "edgy."
Back then he was accepted as the Edgelord Murderhobo of the franchise. That's why we weren't bothered by what he did because we knew what to expect from him. That's why we were able to joke. Because to him, it wasn't serious, so why should we take it seriously? To find out that little things like this haunt him? That his "give no shits" attitude that we enjoyed for so long haunts him? That certainly isn't the Edgelord Murderhobo we knew, but the man who finally realized just how NOT "edgy" that was, but cruel and heartless and worse: meaningless.
Helios - “ stupid barely useful annoying, flashlight… also ugly” Mimir - “ my brother, closest Friend, uncle to my son, trusted counselor, respected advisor, emotional support, head, whom I confide my deepest feelings to openly, smartest man alive, teller of things, I find useful, made me laugh once , a member of my family, and a very useful and stylish accessory, also watches my back”
After kratos brought an army of titans to their home with the intent of destroying Olympus (and thus Greece by association) Kind of an important detail
Makes me really think the next game will be of him in Egypt. Because there's a connection between the Egyptian and Greek pantheon regulation the Typhon story. The game definitely did not do the Typhon story any justice, but who knows maybe that's why it'll be an Egypt based movie
Just enogh read about his dubious conquests of womens in myths to start not loving him(especially in 1 myth, he decided to “play” with Demetrios when she was sad about the loss of her daughter). And I don’t think there’s any need to mention the myth about the Meduse,but in other hand some people think it's not official myth of Greek,but that wrote one guy who try make Greek gods as much evil as he could.
At least Poseidon didn't get his head ripped off while still alive. His eyes may be popped and Kratos snapped his neck but hey, not a "painful" death...
i wish kratos woukd recall what he did to poseidons prisoners. as far as people who didnt desereve what they got she is in untop the list. im curious what current kratos would say about what he did
I freaked out at 3:52 because Helios was the first person to address the ash on his skin. I know there is lore in midland there raiders called him the ashen god, but still someone speaking about it, I got goosebumps!!
Sounds a little harsh on Helios behalf? Maybe but kratos was as much a victim as the foes he destroyed. The god's employed kratos in stopping Ares 'for them' which could've kept evils from the box from infecting them had they cleaned their own messes once in awhile.
@shiroamakusa8075 I know that I would've liked to say that stuff to Helios and the other gods that wronged him and had the audacity to condone his actions like they were without faults. Too late to say since Helios is long gone.
Helios: *owes Kratos for saving him and vice-versa, then chooses to lie to Kratos about the Flame of Olympus* Also Helios: "That was completely unnecessary!" Maybe, but that still makes you a dickhead too, Helios
I honestly find it hilarious helios blames kratos for his death when kratos was willing to spare his life. Like all bro had to do was tell kratos what he wanted and helios would of gotten off scot free
@@SmartAss4123 Last I checked, Athena took a blade to her chest at the end of GoW 2, than appeared in GoW 3 as a spirit. At the minimum, her physical body is dead and only her soul survives. Also, I literally said the Athena we saw in GoW 4 was a nightmare, meaning she wasn't real. Finally, I said it's unknown what the hell she's doing, because the last we ever see of the her true self is in GoW 3. And from what I heard, in universe, nobody knows what she's been doing during any of the events past GoW 3.
@@robotx9285she's alive (sorta). We see her in the comics that follow Kratos post GoW3 (and yes, those comics are canon, contrary to the book). She torments Kratos and talk about his destiny while he roams Egypt after escaping Greece. So yeah, she's very much alive in that spiritual form and still capable of bothering Kratos in other mythologies.
You know what has me so messed up is that Persephone was the daughter of Zeus and Hades was his brother and Persephone Is the goddess of the underworld and Hades is the king so put that all together Persephone is dating her uncle 😱
... Wild take and theory but... I think Tyr is another aspect of what people would call "Jesus" And I'm not even a christian. There are alot of small nuances that make me think that.
I realise just how much Helios is the polar opposite to Mimir, Arrogant, Insulting and narcisstic to Mimir being wise, sensitive and thinking of others more than himself.
Helios he's no more a piece of $#** than when you both parted. You may have been under influence from evils of the world but it doesn't serve as an excuse anymore than kratos' decision that saved his people.
Helios: "I saved your life! ME!" Kratos: "After I saved yours. And then you tried to trick me into entering the Flame of Olympus." Helios: "I... Umm... So... Even Stevens?"
Mimir is an absolute legend of a friend. Truly loves Kratos and listens to his every word and wants only to help him get past all his tragedies. It's almost impossible to find a friend... A brother or sister like this nowadays. Kratos is damn lucky to have him. And what's better.... He knows it. He loves Mimir to and obviously would risk everything to save him. "Quiet head"! Lol. 😂
Honestly, my own World of Warcraft character; Karzeth Menethan, he'd get along great with Kratos. He's been through about a small fraction of what Kratos has, but he's got almost as many mental scars as Kratos. I got a little choked up hearing Kratos recount his sins and Valhalla basically giving him his forgiveness. He needed this. Badly. I hope I can find Kratos' level of peace in my own lifetime. As should others before they die. I'm only 31. But I feel like I have lived enough for at least two people so far.
I love that the questline is called The Work because thats what he does there hes doing Shadow Work going through his shadow to come out on the other side.