FYI: This helper was not part of her team, and when they discovered him Harilas team spent hours trying to help to no avail. They found him litterally dangling from his rope withouth proper gear and proper training for the work. Harila eventually left to go help her team up ahead that was caught in an avalanche while her cameraman stayed behind for another 2 hours before he was forced to leave due to lack of oxygen. At that point he was also being attended by other climbers. He was stuck in one of the most dangerous areas of K2, sent up by a company withouth proper training or gear and sadly found himself in a situation and location where being saved was near impossible, even for the most experienced climbers. Harilas team did what they realistically could before having to continue upward, they saw his dead body on their way down again. The real villains are the company that sent him up there witouth a proper team or gear.
It’s easy for people to pass judgement without having to risk their own lives or the lives of others for whose safety they are responsible. This a completely different perspective and I would expect that if several attempts to save him had failed he would have been beyond help.
Maybe but atleast they must be also taught to sit them up firmly in weebit more under top cover with needed O2,H2O, Protein etc until their decending return to take him back
@@davidgilde6296 Wow, I almost cried at how sad and weak your statement was. Dead body man knew the risk and lost. People shouldn't die because of his bad mistakes. Selfish dead man should've turned back once he couldn't handle it.
People seem to forget about the line of people behind them, but cause a traffic jam and let them all die…all their families can take comfort in the sanctimony of the ignorant.
He is a man who deserves recognition, she is a woman who deserves recognition, there's plenty to go around. It wouldn't/couldn't be me 😅 or the other 99% of people
@@jettserUK17I heard her speaking on the BBC about it. This is just a few seconds of film but in reality she and her team spent two and a half hours trying to save him.This footage is disingenuous and doesn't give a true picture of what really happened.
@@martydav9475 I know, I've already heard that people tried to assist in making him comfortable even though he was doomed. I wasn't denying that but I'm just trying to make this numpty realise that it made no difference either way, whether he was helped or not or whether the woman went to the summit or not, he was still dooned. His/her logic to scapegoat the record breaker woman made no sense in the grand scheme given that there were many people there of some who assisted the dying Sherpa.
Any mountaineer that tries to summit K2 understands how dangerous it is. The area this incident occurred is called the “Bottleneck” and is the crux of the mountain. It is extremely hard to conduct a rescue above 8000m. Especially under these circumstances. She shouldn’t be judged.
Agreed. Probably the worst place on that mountain. A giant serac above ur head that could collapse at anytime. What was a PORTER even doing there in the first place.
I agree completely everyone expects someone to be a hero until they realize that helping people at that point of a climb is usually not possible and poses an extreme risk to anyone attempting to help, it is a risk that is well known and accepted before attempting the climbs in the first place and sometimes hard decisions have to be made.
Tourism that makes 💰💰 money, and stepping over dead bodies, as this is n not the only video with dead bodies in it...but they should all know what risks they are taking so your responsible for your own actions.
Doesn't really matter if there's hundreds of people that go up there every day. It's still dangerous to climb and dangerous to try to drag someone back down
K2 sherpas are a fantasy they don’t really exist,Everest has them because of the Cillage located right near the range while K2 is just there usually they’ll go with a previous summiter instead
She and her team helped him for hours. That wasn’t recorded. They even gave him their oxygen. In the end - they wouldn’t have gotten down without their oxygen and needed to retreat. He wasn’t wearing a suit - didn’t have the skills to be up there and probably shouldn’t have been. It’s devastating but it’s a choice he made. He was a porter originally.
its called the death zone for a reason, rescue is virtually impossible they need to be able to walk for themselves and make safe decisions to be safely rescued or else it puts everyone on that line at risk.
Everyone should know the sherpas are the real heros. They make it so folks like this gal from Norway can bask in the glory while just climbing. They carry everything, set up camps, tote oxygen, food, all their supplies yet they receive no glory and not much money. Damn shame, Nepalese are great, kind, and helpful ppl. I worked with one for 4 yrs.
when these mountaineers are babied to climb to the top ,is this even an achievement ? Always pondered over that. Power to the all the native people over there who does the real job carrying this "achievers" on their shoulders.
The Sherpas & Porters are the REAL Amazing Climbers. They trek up & down the Mountains carrying Other ppls CRAP, all while trying to stay Alive themselves... They're Amazing. Without Them Climbers wouldn't be able to do ANY of this.. My heart goes out to that Porters Family & Friends.
Nirmal Purja broke the previous record a couple of years ago and helped save numerous people on his way up/down K2 and other mountains. The bloke is an animal 💪
This climber smashed his record by five days. And she didn't have the huge army of porters and millions in funding he used. She's a thousand times the climber he is.
@@RebelCrux007 doubt it. Even cave diving community understand the extremity of certain situations that are hapless and helpless. The best they could is to conduct body retrieval mission **at a later date,* because the equipment needed for rescue/retrieval are very specific just to ensure the success of the mission and *their own survival* for doing so.
The porter was the one who goes ahead of the climbers to ensure that the ropes are secure and safe for the climbers. I can't understand why anyone let him go up without the proper clothing and necessary supplies. I hope his family makes out ok with the loss of their husband, father, son and provider. I read a post in Reddit and it was saying that Kristin Harila had made a pact with the other members of her original group, that they were in it together and would achieve the goal together. It's titled Kristin Harila Screwed Over Sherpa Team. Apparently, it's over Chinese visa's and how everyone had their passports taken except for the Kristin and Tenjen Sherpa despite having the same agent and applying together. They were told it was due to something that happened on a previous visit to Pakistan. However, her former sheepa's said that Kristin and Tenjen Sherpa were there with the rest of the Sherpa team and their Visa's were not confiscated. The rest of the team had climbed 12 of the 14 peaks with her and ensured that she didn't have to anything but climb. I don't know if there's something fishy going on with those Visa's but I do know that it appears that only Kristin's camera person tried to help the porter. The porters name is Mohammed Hassan and he was only doing it to get money to help his Diabetic mother.
They all tried for hours to help him but all came to the conclusion that it was impossible to save him in those weather conditions. They made him as comfortable as possible and kept moving for their safety as they were in one of the most dangerous spots of the climb.
50-60 climbers in the situation and a 45kg woman gets the blame for not picking him up and carrying him down. Why is not his team mentioned? Btw. He was told by many that he was under equipped, to poorly dressed and to unexpirienced to be there. He should have turned back way before this.
And the team stayed with him until he died. Which litterly was the kindest thing one could have done for him except for breaking his foot before he starts climbing
Yes don’t help just because it’s his own fault apparently. What’s wrong with humanity. And it’s not just her it’s her team and inherently everyone else who could have and didn’t. Some others did stop and try at least seeing if he could have been helped at that point, instead of just stepping over another human for an aim to break records
No, she and her Team did that once they arrived. Which is even weirder because she did all that for someone who isnt even on her Team. And that makes it even more digusting from the media to twist the narrative. Something they love doing
@@LS13. When climbing deadly mountains stepping over the bodys of humans isnt to break records. Its to stay alive. Its already difficult to not die, its litterly impossible to save them. Especially in that section they were. it is litterly notorious for its danger. But somehow the one who did more than anyone else ever did and had to do is dragged over the media because people refuse to learn the most basic stuff about mountain climbing before antagonising a person that did nothing wrong.
Bro these are professionals, if they all collectively decided that it would be wiser to unfortunately let the guy pass on, then I’m sure it was a the safest calculated call.
No, they are not professionals, they are wanna be mountaineers who pay others tens of thousands of dollars to get them up and down mountains if they are too inexperienced and unskilled to tackle themselves. They decided to abandoned the attempt to help him not because it was “wiser” to do so but because it was getting in the way of the summit attempt. It would’ve taken several people to help him, and as long as they were doing so, no one could get past that spot to make it to the summit. Rather than prioritize a rescue attempt, they prioritized the summit attempt.
Nirmal is not an average human being. 99.9% of people wouldn't even think of doing what he did in such time frame. Meanwhile these people are average, maybe a little above more than most . And K2 is as dangerous as Annapurna or everest.
@@altrn8prsnlty . Annapurna I (Nepal) The deadliest mountain in the world is a specific ascent of Annapurna, another peak in the Himalayas. The route is so deadly because of an extremely steep face. Astonishingly, 58 people have died from just 158 attempts. It has the greatest fatality rate of any ascent in the world. In October 2014 at least 43 people died in snowstorms and subsequent avalanches. It was Nepal's deadliest trekking disaster.
K2 is the most dangerous climb in the world. As i understand it, they tried to help for hours but at the top of K2 in the condition he was in, he was doomed. RU-vid shorts arent the best for accurate in depth news.
Then perhaps they should have abandoned the climb, and brought him down the mountain. Whether he was dead or alive, that should have taken priority. That would have been the respectful thing to do. What if it wasn’t a Sherpa, but one of their own? Would they have carried on with the climb then?
@@pmw3839it’s impossible to just bring someone down the mountain at that altitude, they’ll struggle just to get themselves down, too many haters on here bored with their own lives so they gotta find fault in what other people do,
@@pappy432 “It’s impossible to bring someone down the mountain at that altitude…”. But it is perfectly possible to carry on climbing? They have to come down sometime.
@@pappy432the point is : They did not do anything. And this hours comment is nonsense nobody can stay they chilling for hours.. They should have Immediately started to descend with him. If they all helped something would have happened.
As a person who is terrified of heights, I'll never understand how climbing a mountain is more important than human life. I never get the torture people put themselves through to get to the top.
Climbing the mountain isn’t even important to Ms Harlina. Her ego is her priority. The climb is merely a vehicle for her self importance. We see egomaniacs choosing themselves over others lives, daily.
I am scared of heights, but I don't really consider being on a mountain a height. It's all part of the earth. This is all my personal views of course and I just wanted to remark how I found it interesting that a fear of heights can present differently. For me I guess it's more a fear of falling vs heights.
My condolences to the hikers family. But I do not agree with blaming her or her team. The victim had a team as well and what did they do? They left him!
Very very true so why is the team that found him being ran down so badly when his own walked off and left him this team came n found him probably half dead or very very close to deaths doors if she is a Dr then she knew she cldnt do anything to help
He didn’t have a team. He was a local porter who had been sent by the company who hired him to do a job that they had not equipped him or trained him to do. His companion did try to help him.
For everyone criticising her, please keep in mind the circumstances and context: He was one of the sherpas that was setting up ropes. He fell (probably because of the ongoing minor avalanches). This climber’s party didn’t reach him until an hour after he fell. His o2 mask was broken and he was on the verge of death. Everyone is already exhausted from keeping themselves alive- trying to keep someone else alive in that condition is near impossible and more deaths are far more likely to happen than this man surviving- even if the party had decided to put their full effort into helping. Even so, attempts to help were made- and everyone understood the risks. Unfortunately in this situation where avalanches are active and the man is nearly dead, saving his life is essentially impossible and preventing further death becomes the priority.
100s of Everest climbers walk right past dead people and people in need every single year. Their guides instruct them NOT to stop for anything, too include helping someone in need.
Wrong. They are told not to expect people to rescue them if doing so will cost the rescuers their own lives. While it is true, that the commercial tourists who can’t get up a mountain without other people doing the hard work and helping them every step of the way use this as an excuse not to help anyone, Sir Edmund Hillary has been very highly critical of this attitude, pointing out that leaving other climbers to die in your desire to get to the summit is unacceptable.
@@valerierodgerits called leaving someone to die so your whole team doesnt die. Your just ignorant on the subject. Theres places were recue is possible and places were it will end up getting everyone killed. Guess what, everyone climbing k2 already knows that. Its not everest
People get rescued on Everest all the time! On K2 not so much, playing Russian roulette with one live round in a six shot revolver is a safer bet than summitting K2! But "mountaineer's" are usually incredibly selfish people! They accept risk to their own lives, but much more so other peoples lives...
Good weather, plenty of people, seems like the guy was left to die as it might interfere with the her record. I’m not even sure that being babied up a mountain with a massive group of people is record worthy in the first place.
She climbed all 14 mountains higher than 8000m within 92 days. The previous record is like1 1.5 years or something so it IS a huge accomplisment. Also K2, this mountain, along with Annapurna are the deadliest mountains on earth with a death rate of 25%. Also carrying anyone down at that altitude in the bottleneck is very very difficult and dangerous. Also her team was 3 other people, all the other people are other climbers, who would have probably left her too if anything happend to her
@@Daisy-hh4on People were there with him helping him. Only so many people can help. Also who ever sent him up there without oxygen and totally under equipped, I recall reading he didn’t even have gloves. THAT’S the real crime.
It’s not her responsibility to save the other climber, my friend Thomas Whittaker was the first amputee to summit. The mountain is littered with frozen climbers because it is unsafe to try and save someone.
People dont know what theyre talking about in the comments. Helping someone like this get down would be next to impossible. They altso waited till he died and gave him a funeral.
@@frankopanklaricwell the guys own group left him to die. Why is it her job to save him if his own people left him??? Why not criticize the man's team that left him behind. At least her team tried
@@nobodyimportant124 exactly I am not sure what people expected her or her team to do if they were capable of bringing down bodies there wouldn’t be any dead bodies at all. The amount of equipment they have to carry people expect them to carry down a body 150+ more pounds. Hell nah
As I understand it, there was someone helping him already, and he was unprepared for the climb - improper footwear, clothing, and gear. Later accounts state that nobody understood why he was there. This is the worst possible pitch on K2. None of that is a reason not to rescue. The story is that the only chance was for EVERYONE to band together to transport him down the mountain. Why that didn't happen, there seems to be no explanation.
Rescuing people at these altitudes is a very difficult and complex task. This is why there are so many deceased mountaineers still on the mountains. These "last push" paths are the most dangerous ones, both to climb and to descend and, depending on his conditions, she must have made the hard and conscious decision not to risk her life nor her team members' lives by trying to save someone at 8 thousand + mtrs altitude with scarce oxigen, that would require a lot of extra energy, which is something they don't have at this phase of the journey. Life or death is a calculated risk that ALL mountaineers, including the sherpas/support team, are very clear about. I saw many videos where ppl had to leave loved ones behind because there were no viable means to help them. It's sad, but it is their everyday reality.
Yeah, yet she had not issue continuing the climb - LOL. Come one, we all know, mountaineers at least, that her only motivation was money and record. Yeah, lots of extra energy - they were half way up had plenty of energy for the summit and plenty of oxygen and plenty of people.
They have enough oxygen to keep climbing and het down but don't have to stopp and het back? What a genius. If they started descending they would have ended the journey with oxygen to spare . Inhumanity these days makes me wanna isolate muself from apes .
Ironically it’s the Sherpas that make these ascents possible for them …if she had fallen they would be the ones to come to her aid they wouldn’t have walked on !
@@martydav9475 No they did not - they just passed by him. If they stopped for 2.5h or so they would not have made the summit. Also helping someone === bringing him back. She said she moved forward hoping some descending Sherpa will help him.
All lies. Her team was the one to cut him down and bring him to the path. They worked on him for two hours to try and save his life. Harila and her team were well past the bottleneck when he fell. She, nor her team climbed over him while going up or down. He was not on her team, he was hired by a Russian team who ignored him completely. Sick of the lies.
I’m kinda appalled that they are accusing this person of anything. Everyone who climbs K2 are aware of the risks and also the sheer amount of deaths on that mountain. It’s really just sad that they are guilting this team because Yeah saving that man could have meant the entire team died.
@@DillandShaj I don’t think I will 😂 beautiful thing about the USA. I don’t gotta show respect, let alone to stupid marines who couldn’t cut it elsewhere
I wasn't there because I was sat at home eating ice cream laughing at an idiot who thought it would be a good idea to climb a mountain and take a nap in the area they call the death zone 🤣🤣🤣
Here i am in my air conditioned house because it is WAY TOO HOT to have a heated house right now... 😂😂😂 whoever is already using their heaters, yall need some help hahaa
They are called death zones for a reason. Its basically impossible to give the help required to this poor climber without jeopardising the safety of others.
It’s always “helping people would put me and my team at risk”, when what they really mean is “if I stopped to help I wouldn’t reach the summit that day.”
Well, if it's not possible to help that person at that altitude and one of the most dangerous part of K2, the deadliest mountain on earth, then why not summit and go down. Instead of seeing him, not being able to save him and go down.
@@brownh2orat211 and get themselves all killed? The paths are so narrow that basically only one person would be able to lift him, and no one could help them. Also, it is the rule for climbers to leave dying or dead people up there, they aren’t trained
@@airsoftpopcornthe reason they are garbage human beings is because of the complete vanity of these expeditions, not the reluctance to help dying people. Like the OG post says, everyone knows the risks. But the crowning achievement of the climb is just an ego boast to an already filthy rich person.
To everyone who is commenting about how heartless she is. Tell me exactly what she could've done different that would've actually saved the man who was at the DYING stage at an altitude above 8000m. I bet y'all would just throw this limp person and all his body+gear weight on your back and just ignore the lack of oxygen in your body and skip down the mountain. Tell me please, what could she have done different?
Yeah... I find it unethical myself but everyone hating on this woman for doing what the majority of people do... is insane. It's life or death up there. I think people should have to pass multiple tests before they even legally allowed to attempt a summit like that.
@@_asantesana_squashbanana_the man who died was one of the guides. I do agree that there’s a lot of people who attempt the climbs who shouldn’t have been allowed to but in this instance it wasn’t the case
@@joeyisamazing1091 it appears that it was the case - he was a local Porter that didn’t even have a down suit or gloves. On a mountain that until not long ago had a 25% death rate.
She denies claims she and her team stepped over the guy but then simultaneously says "helping him would have put my team at risk"....big contradiction of statements there
There was many teams on the mountain, and the Harila team tried to help for hours. Why is the focus on her, and not the group he was part of? Shouldn’t his own group done something to help him? At least the Harila team tried, but at one point they had to rescue themselves.. They had the same decision to make as a fire fighter might have. Save your self or the victim.. At this altitude getting the victim down is a very difficult task anyway.. Sad story, but I do believe her story, not the simplistic story that this video portrays..
Why push on to the top though when you’d just been forced to leave someone dying? Why not abandon the attempt out of respect for the dead? A life is worth far more than a record!
Her team had many people who could have attempted to save his life. Sherpas are the reason people like her reach any summit!! And her team of how many people stepped over him? Absolutely disgusting.
Every climber knows the rules and or risks. They just supposed to fireman carry these people back down a mountain? Only to kill themselves. It’s sad sure, but it’s reality.
@@ck4060he did and left himself without oxygen for so long in the death zone that he nearly died himself because he chose to give his oxygen to the climber
This happens on Everest and K2 all the time. Death is a very likely risk. There's nothing anyone can do when someone is dying/dead at that elevation, and any extra time will kill your team for no reason. A similar popular video with a woman screaming for help and trying to aid the dying on Everst, all the comments were about how she wasn't strong enough to be there as death is all around Everest. Interesting.
Yeah, we're hearing about it this once because a woman did something amazing so we've got to dig up some scandal to tarnish her success and reputation.
The reason is to take care of the felllow human being, alive or dead, and come down with the body, out of respect!! Imagine a race, during which a runner dies and the rest of the team carries on. Imagine if that dead person is your father. Oh, well, the team would slow down, so they should just jump over your dad! Definitely they should! 😮
@shay4472 exactly. I just saw a video of a woman screaming help and crying when someone was sliding to their death on Everest and all the comments were how she was too weak to be there....Can't win either way
I mean, what do they expect the team to do at that altitude in the case of a medical emergency? I highly doubt they have the supplies and skill necessary to deal with every situation. Do they have reception? Is it even safe for a helicopter to have tried to rescue him at that point on the mountain? They likely stayed with him to comfort him while he died, I doubt they just felt like he was gonna be a goner eventually and left him all alone.
Not going to happen until these countries find other revenue streams to replace climbing. These expeditions make countries millions of dollars they would otherwise not have. The Nepal side of Everest is rampant with “illegal” climbing licenses because they need the moo-lah
“Denied claims that she stepped over a dying climber” meanwhile the video shows several people past the climber who clearly had to step over him🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I cant believe people are angry with this lady. Her team would have left her as well. Your potential safety is worth much less than potential death for everyone else there. This isn’t some cold hearted act. This is survival and everyone knew this could happen when they travelled to the mountain.
100%!! was she supposed to put her and her teams life in more danger whilst on the most dangerous mountain in the world. People act like they'd have done something different, but these people can barely climb stairs never mind a mountain, they have no idea.
Your not understanding. She wasnt trying to go back down. Her team used the 02 bottles that could have saved this mans life to summit. From the time they encountered him they spent another 1.5 hours summiting. If they had decided not to summit, the extra oxegon bottles could have given the man a fighting chance. But we will never know. Pathetic. I dont understand why people that have 0 climbing experience try to vouch for her.
@@stedunn563wrong. She chose to summit. It took another hour and a half going up. She could have had her team use the oxegon bottles that would have been used to summit to try and save this mans life. She wasnt descending. She was still attempting to summit. Her team was in 0 danger. The only thing thar was in danger was her record.
@@Muzzy0085 Yes, this sherpa was advised to go down many times because he was already suffering and was ill equipped, before he even ended up at this point where it is very hard to rescue someone.
They should ban climbing Everest. Now people are openly avoiding helping others. Because it will interfere with their own attempt. If people are to selfish to help people dying in front of them. Its evident the allure of climbing Everest is too strong.
People die on Everest all the time. Not like they are ever alone, it's a packed mountain. I see tons of videos of people stepping over bodies. It all is insane to me cause I have no desire to risk my life for a climb surrounded by bodies and poop
People should be aware that K2 is a more deadly mountain than Everest. Apparently about 25% of people trying to ascend K2 die in the attempt. Much worse than Everest. Let that sink in…
So- inevitably risking ANOTHER life in order to save someone who will not make it down the mountain?… this is more common in the real world despite what your heart and mind want to believe. In order to save 1 person at that part of the mountain is a life or death decision which people who train to climb mountains like that are taught to keep climbing.
Because they aren't the same thing. First and foremost the submarine was instantly destroyed thousands of feet under water in a completely hostile environment. There are plenty of ways to save climbers. PLENTY. and secondly there wasn't a person stepping over the remains of the submarine while it was actively imploding. They were searching for it for days. They aren't comparable. The fact is she made a statement lying and saying it didn't happen then video was released and she changed her story to "I had no other choice" at the bare minimum she's a liar and her reputation is ruined.
A low income Sherpa trying to make a living for his family dying because some status chasing rich person put her summit over his life is far more outrageous than a group of Billionaires dying because they took foolish risks to save money on safety equipment and redundancy.
They could have attempted to get the sherpa to a lower altitude. They also should have emergency gear with them. It was all for the sake of her glory. Well, summit or not, this trip stained her hands red.
@@kateorwell7203it's a 40 day round trip from Basecamp to the summit. Depending on where they are it really could be impossible to help him. There are many dead bodies to climb passed, and nothing can be done.
Their TV brains demand a single identifiable villian! What a joke, there were at least 2 teams there...what about the team that the porter was working for...why didn't they do anything... probably because they knew it was futile
They all walked over him...they could have stopped and helped him but they wanted a record so they can be in history forever... Jokes on them cuz no one will remember this
@@I-R_kratosis everyone supposed to stop and help though? Only so much can be done and only so much space to do it. Many times 2 people can be of more help than 14 trying to help.
There really isn't much that can be done. Every person climbing that mountain is exposed to the same risk. They know it is potentially fatal. Taking someone down, carrying them, is even riskier. But, It is still sickening to think of that line of climbers stepping over a dead body.
Fact is, attempting to save someone at that altitude is risking your own life. If someone isn't up for risking their life for someone else, I can't blame them. Everyone knows death is a likely outcome when they make that climb.
Her intentions was to beat Nirmal Purja while Nirmals intentions was to win the mountains. He even on annapurna mountain gave his oxygen and alone climbed the mountain in night to save another climber a huge deference in two of them.
